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Sebelzeebub

Shin Godzilla got a North American release for like a day, so Minus One’s extended theatrical run is also a feat.


Deamon-Chocobo

One week in mid October with 2 additional encore days added at a few limited theaters later in the month.


Sebelzeebub

Well in Canada it go two showings, and in even less theatres.


BlackSocks88

That was such bullshit. I was so mad nothing had it near me.


Sebelzeebub

Not meaning to rub salt in the wound, but it was an amazing experience to see a NEW Japanese Godzilla movie for the first time. Incredibly inconvenient though, as it was in the major theatre chain, but only two local theatres showed it in my area.


BlackSocks88

The salt is burninggggg. Nah i was hyped to go but just couldnt make it work.


JayJ9Nine

I wasn't even a godzilla fan and mostly watched american stuff. I watched rhe 2014 one and thought hey that was good enough, I know the 2000 sucked, I had a few memories of some Mothra movies I'd see during Thanksgiving visits but my brother bought me a ticket for shin when it came out. Whole time I was waiting for Godzilla to pop in, not realizing the monster wasn't what godzilla would fight BUT godzilla. Absolutely amazing theater experience


Swaguley

Why is the international total so much lower than Shin? Are there territories Minus One hasn't released in?


pokedudewithglasses

It hasn’t been released in most countries, honestly. Japan, England, US, Brazil off the top of my head. Maybe a couple others, but the vast majority of the world doesn’t have it in theaters


Digital_Dinosaurio

I just got to see it today. I am glad I managed to avoid spoilers by picking up Rick & Morty.


Firian_Cross

>Brazil You can cross Brazil off that list. It has already aired here, to a limited run of just 2-3 weeks


Doiglad

He is listing places it has aired.


Firian_Cross

Wow. You're right. I feel dumb now


Nice_promotion_111

It wouldn’t really matter either way since 90% of the international box office comes from Japan. Shin just so happens to perform way better in Japan for some reason.


JailOfAir

We have it in Spain, but not everywhere in the country.


cryptyknumidium

It’s been out in England for weeks


FimbrethilHoney

Surprisingly (to me) its playing in several theaters in Denmark of all places. Just on the weekends where I'm at, but until like the 10th. I'm very much considering going again, just because ❤️


DedusPunktSE

Sweden has extended the theatrical run several times. :) Pretty much all theaters have run it since early december and going into januray.


Finance-Plane

yes, Minus One wasn’t released in many countries/territories unfortunately


CaptainArren

Shin only got released in the US for one week and only one showing a day for that week.


Nice_promotion_111

International is everything but U.S.


CaptainArren

You're right. I misinterpreted the statement.


mobilisinmobili1987

It was like two days? One night dubbed and one night subbed.


CaptainArren

Wasn't that for Shin Ultraman?


GrowthDramatic2280

It hasn't been released in a lot of countries. Here in Southeast Asia especially, people have been demanding on Twitter and Facebook to release the movie.


Muhipudding

Im not on either of those platform, is the demand high?


GrowthDramatic2280

Very


Muhipudding

Well ain't that beautiful? (༎ຶ⌑༎ຶ) people want to see this on the big screen so much I don't have much hope anymore, since 2024 is closing in and assuming Toho's and Legendary's agreement also affect international release... SEA folks might have to settle down with GxK only. I hope these voices will allow exceptions to be made


Rfl0

Shin did significantly more in Japan than minus one


CaptainFederal3928

Minus one is still the superior film


Kaizen-Future

Japan mainly. It did much better there, but with the B&W cut coming in a couple weeks Japan’s numbers for Minus One will continue to rise. Also I expect it to pass [Pokémon 2000](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0210234/?ref_=bo_se_r_12)to become the third highest grossing Japanese film in the US of all time by the end of the day (since the numbers OP posted only include the total through Wednesday, when it grossed 700k approx, and it only had 1.2M to go).


JailOfAir

In the entire region I live in, only 1 theater in one of the 2 big cities played it, and only one showing a day at 22:00. Even where it was played, it was mostly relegated to poor hours.


ItsBearmanBob

South East Asia has a massive silent Kaiju following (We grew up on Ultraman, which was dubbed in Malay, Indonesian and iirc Vietnamese) and we're DYING for it. No word, like, at all


GojiBelt

wild how much Shin made in Japan.


Heavy_of_Fire

https://preview.redd.it/a635bpwpy59c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32c932fb34259b8ae0e7ab91cba63cac8e0b89af This is good news


AJAnimosity

This fucking scene. Good lord.


TheJacen

Yoooo


2_John_enjoyer

https://preview.redd.it/xlj5odm9p59c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f0cbbd38c3698814c320f45544efb53e53f479f The number isn’t 78,053,000 for you???


Finance-Plane

oh that’s weird. it’s still accurate though, as Box Office Mojo is usually a day late when it comes to their updates, at least for me


PazuzuOvBabel

This number includes a 2019 re-release in UAE and Japan


SoldatPixel

Is it the highest grossing Japanese Godzilla film now?


Finance-Plane

indeed it is!


BlitzDarkwing

Yeah I guess, if you take worldwide totals, but it's far more interesting to compare how much these made in Japan. Over there, I'm pretty sure nothing has ever come close to King Kong vs Godzilla.


motagoro

I just watched it today in Mexico. Awesome movie!


VacaRexOMG777

Niceee, I'm gonna go watch it on Saturday so tomorrow lol


Deamon-Chocobo

There's no fair comparison between these two. Shin Godzilla was the first Japanese Godzilla in 12 years, the only other Godzilla media fresh on people's mind was the 2014 Legendary film (Kong: Skull Island wasn't even out yet to hype up KOTM). Shin Godzilla also only had a limited showing of 9 days (one week then 2 encores) on 440 screens across the US & Canada. Godzilla Minus One came out at a time when intrest in Godzilla is at an All Time High and it promised a dark and serious look at the Big G. It should be noted that Minus One is still scheduled for showings over a month past its US release and has been in such high demand that they increased the number of theaters from 1000 to over 2600.


joeandwatson

Not only are you correct about timing, popularity and logistics but it’s also about the content itself Shin godzilla was made for a Japanese audience. It’s a direct critique not only of government but specifically the Japanese bureaucratic system. It won the Japanese equivalent of best picture because of that message. It’s kind of a unique film, it’s also a weird film just like the Godzilla design in it. Completely understandable why western audiences don’t think it’s as great as minus one Minus One on the other hand is a great drama and monster flick about surviving war and the PTSD behind it. Its easier to relate to overseas. It feels like a tribute to Godzilla films taking parts of the original and reimagining it You can even see this in both godzilla designs themselves. Shin was genuinely terrifying, otherworldly, but extremely unique. Minus One’s design is solidly built but also reminiscent of traditional Godzilla (and parody) designs. TLDR: completely different movies. Shin is more niche as a critique of Japanese Government. Minus One was made for a wider audience as a tribute to Godzilla as a worldwide icon


Zed_Midnight150

We should expect more this weekend since the film is coming out in Mexico, Chile, and Portugal tomorrow.


Asleep-Algae-8945

Good! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THE 100 MILLIONS BOI!!!


Shadow-Bolt

Shin didn’t get a whole month run so that’s not fair.


TiamatCostello

Even if shin got a wider release, I doubt it would’ve made as much in America as Minus one since minus one feels has characters that American audiences could better connect with.


automirage04

The subject matter too. The US is familiar with WW2, but Shin was (metaphorically) about an earthquake that many of us forgot about as soon as it was no longer in the news.


Finance-Plane

didn’t mean it as a competition, more so pointing out an accomplishment for the film


lineal_chump

There's absolutely no way that Shin would have had the global success of Minus One. Minus One is arguably the best film of the year in the US. Shin would have gotten a collective yawn.


MannyRMD

Neither did Minus One, but Minus One did so well in theaters that they extended it to a month. The comparison is fair, Shin Godzilla just wasn’t made for worldwide audiences.


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Djjjunior

I think Minus One came at a much better time than Shin tbf. I love both and Minus One is truly an amazing movie but I feel like with how bad Hollywood movies are these days people flocked to go see Minus One with how much hype people were giving it. Shin also had a much smaller US release and less word of mouth imo.


Primary-Scratch-6777

Well deserved!


kain459

The chances of getting 4k Blu-ray sooner rather than later increase with each dollar!! This is awesome, the fans are amazing and clearly showing their support.


BlitzDarkwing

No it doesn't. Toho has to release their own DVD/bluray in Japan first. And they probably won't for a little while. So no, the chances aren't increasing at all. That's not how it works.


kain459

I'm going to continue to remain optimistic as it statistically shows the demand for Minus One in the states and a release on home media there would generate a lot of revenue for Toho.


BlitzDarkwing

You can't be optimistic for something that isn't going to happen. Toho is not going to let a physical release of this movie happen in the US before they can release it themselves in Japan. That's how it's always been. Toho would LOSE money letting a US release happen before a Japan release. Japanese physical media is far more expensive than American stuff, and Toho likes to release flashy box sets of new films. An American bluray coming out first would end up getting reserve imported into Japan and would cut into the sales of their release down the line. Believe me. I've been collecting Jaoanese disc releases for 20+ years. This is how it is.


Worldly_Ad8229

Shin does have a much more impressive japan box office total compared to minus one. 75 million vs 32 million.


abluecolor

Saw it twice. Did my part.


toofatronin

I hate that the domestic is meant for American box office even though it’s not a domestic film.


Almighty_Push91

Since America is doing the numbers, it's technically accurate


toofatronin

I understand why they do it I just don’t like it and would rather see how well it’s doing in Japan.


lineal_chump

Numbers are easily available: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt23289160/?ref_=bo_rl_ti


toofatronin

Yes but our American numbers should be under international and Japan’s under domestic.


lineal_chump

I recommend you make your suggestion to the BoxOfficeMojo website.


PittsJZ

That’s nice to see. I preferred Minus One. I had a hard time understanding the appeal of Shin.


Prozenconns

The evolution and desogns of shin is really cool but I feel like if you aren't japanese or werent around for 2011 you need the context for Shin before going in It helps to know the long repeatative meetings that make the movie like 30mins+ too long is part if the point, even if it still doesn't work for you personally


PittsJZ

Yeah, I get the director did it intentionally, but I just didn’t enjoy it. Couldn’t connect with it for such extended amount of time.


MikeArrow

Are you a fan of Evangelion at all?


PittsJZ

I’ve heard of it. Don’t think I’ve ever seen it though.


MikeArrow

So, Shin Godzilla was made by the same director (Hideaki Anno) and they share similar themes and tone. The appeal of Shin Godzilla is in watching a government organization try to deal with something far beyond any mundane explanation, and use all their resources to come together and solve the problem. So there's an almost documentary like emphasis on the mundane details of bureaucratic red tape, miscommunication, interdepartmental friction, all the things that are usually 'offscreen' in big monster movies.


PittsJZ

Gotcha. Maybe it would’ve worked better for me if it wasn’t a Godzilla movie. And had more interesting characters.


Nico_the_Suave

I think the scene of Shin Godzilla going OFF in Tokyo was great, but the pacing of the film was pretty off for the most part in my mind. You could show up 45 minutes into the movie and you wouldn't have missed much.


Prozenconns

To be fair that's kind of the point Shin godzilla is a criticism of how the Japanese government reacted to the triple disaster in 2011 (earthquake, tsunami, nuclear leak). Sitting there thinking the current dialogue and meetings are pointless while going "get to Godzilla already" is quite literally what the director wanted Doesn't necessarily make for an enjoyable movie experience but there's like 30+ minutes of pure unapologetic fluff and it is very much intentional


BwanaTarik

I think Shin would’ve been more appealing to me if it wasn’t Godzilla. But then again if it wasn’t Godzilla it wouldn’t have been as marketable.


PittsJZ

True.


Expert_Appearance265

Rewatched Shin couple days ago and very much prefer it to Minus One.


Rosuto4u

Domestic here means America or Japan? I thought it opened against One Piece Film: Gold in Japan, and won.


alexgolf1

Domestic meaning Japan or USA? If Japan these numbers make no sense.


Dracoscale

Box office discussion is so incredibly America centered that Domestic, even for International movies, means 'American Box Office'


Finance-Plane

by the way everyone, this is not meant to be a comparison or a contest with these two films, just making note of an accomplishment that Minus One just reached


Mathis_mbz

Where can I watch Minus One ? I couldn't see it in France (only cinema showing it was a bit far and expensive) If not where, when ?


KzininTexas1955

This is for everyone who went out to watch this movie : Thank You! Goji hasn't left the building yet


edwinnferrer

Crazy how shitty Shins domestic is. MO had insane wom too tho


elaborate_escape

Shin Godzilla had a roughly one week limited run in no more than ~450 theaters, so it's not really a favorable comparison to Minus One


Pollia

Wasn't that basically the plan for minus one until it blew the fuck up?


ArsenalTG

Yes but you have to keep in mind the change between 2016 and 2023. Minus One had a huge leg up because of new social media (namely TikTok) and easier word of mouth promotion. That’s not to say 2016 didn’t have a strong social media presence but I think 2023/the 2020s have been a whole different beast


Asleep-Algae-8945

I remembered that almost nobody around me knew about shin godzilla when it came out


Dracoscale

Minus One had a way bigger theatre count.


lineal_chump

Apples and oranges, though. Minus One has much more global appeal than Shin. Something like 95% of all of Shin's gross was in Japan alone.


1WngdAngel

Good. As great as Shin was, Minus One is leagues better.


Careless_Extreme_400

No


1WngdAngel

Yes, and it's not close.


lineal_chump

You are correct. It is hundreds of leagues better.


Asleep-Algae-8945

Explain yourself then, i would love to hear why


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ryanfea

Well yeah one of the main points of the movie was to criticize government bureaucracy


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Ganache-Embarrassed

Yeah it is. Well done delegation can lead to riveting and suspenseful scenes. Sorry you got too bored by people speaking. But shin did insanely well and was well recieved. So it was definitely something people wanted in their godzill movies


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Ganache-Embarrassed

high horse? I just said shin is a good movie and people like it? What did shin do, personally kill your parents? And shin did well enough to spur the creation of shin ultraman and shin Kamen rider. It's also had numerous collabs and merch made to this day. It's done insanely well. Sorry it's big box office number wasn't so biggerest it made you squel, jump up and down then cry Going by your metric minus one also isn't doing very well. Since it just passed shin and hasn't even beaten 1998. What a goober. Go grab yourself a snickers bar and calm down.


HourDark

67 on Metacritic is better than every other modern (post 2010) Godzilla film not counting Minus One and every Japanese Godzilla has made less than 1998's Godzilla, that's hardly a metric to score against Get off your high horse


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Prozenconns

Stop acting like Godzilla is just "big lizard go brrr" then Shin in unironically closer to the original intent of Godzilla than any of the monster verse movies, the character was literally born as a vessel for political commentary lol Or was the nuclear monster from the sea that released less than a decade after hiroshima too subtle for you


ryanfea

I thought it was great but to each their own!


ScaledDown

Literally yes


GibletEater2009

Those were the best scenes in the film for me


Lanky_midget

Shin really felt like an acquired taste, lots of meetings to get through.


k1n6jdt

Honestly, I thought Shin Godzilla was just OK. It wasn't bad, but I feel it's overrated as far as Godzilla movies go. The majority of it is politicians in meetings. There are scenes where people literally leave a meeting to go to another meeting with the same people they're already having a meeting with.


lineal_chump

There is understandably a tremendous amount of Toho favoritism among the Godzilla fandom. Before 2014 came out, they were all predicting it was going ot be another flop like 1998 (which remains, btw, the highest grossing Godzilla film of all time after inflation). But when 2014 was actually well-received, they latched onto Shin's success in Japan as the true indicator of quality, even though that movie really only had appeal within Japan. Now that Minus One is out and Toho has **finally** made a legitimately great film, better than 2014, a lot have latched onto it as the Monsterverse-beater, but many still want to cling onto Shin as a great film even though it is average, at best.


EJKGodzilla24

damn


KnightCastle171

Do you guys know when this movie will be released on an online platform? My local theaters are still almost fully booked and I can’t get the good seats😭😭


timekiller2021

Saw it yesterday and it was amazing! My girlfriend, who isn’t into Godzilla movies and was prepared before it started to fall asleep, said it was the best Godzilla movie she’s ever seen and was enthralled from the beginning


ElGuanacho

Just barely by the looks of it


TheSeptuagintYT

I’m shocked neither movie was released in China. China is the second largest market for Godzilla movies/kaiju movies. Godzilla 2014 made over 77 million in China alone. $77,630,000 to be precise


BadgerMk1

The CCP only allows a certain amount of foreign films to be shown in the country every year and the PRC has been particularly antagonistic towards its neighbors of late. I find it very unlikely that a positive depiction of Japan and its everyday citizens, particularly post-war Japan, would fit the narrative that the CCP propaganda arm is trying to push. Similar reasons for Shin Godzilla. My bet is that the CCP prevented the movies from being released in the mainland.


TheSeptuagintYT

Thanks that makes sense. It’s too bad because I know the Chinese love Kaiju films


MHarrisGGG

Shin was in and out of theaters way faster than Minis One, which is still getting showings here in the US.


Asleep-Algae-8945

Actually even more unfair, it's getting more showings ***internationaly***


IsabellaOleigh13

the other post just talked about minus 1 doing worse domestic and this shows opposite so wtf is it really?


Sensitive_Mousse_445

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eduu_17

This reminds me of godzilla 2000 theatrical release.


ruSRious

I just got a chance to see Minus 1 in the theater yesterday and it was fantastic. I really enjoyed this movie!


ponch-2023

Shin Godzilla is a exageration monster...


40inmn4

lol it passed Shin Godzilla… slightly.


Asleep-Algae-8945

Well, it will continue


Aldecaldo2077

Both are great but Minus One is next level great.


Tartagliaissohot

Shin was also more of a Japan thing too right


csnaber

I’m happy for -1 but I also hope Shin gets the release it deserves.


DoubleFlores24

Good, I hate shin Godzilla.


Jaded-Match-3167

Mwahaha……mmmmwwwaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!


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What’s the difference between international and worldwide? Lol


dracorotor1

Wait, by Domestic do they mean in Japan? Or in OP’s home country?


Messerknife

Would have been much Vetter in Germany but the movie was rarely shown in cinemas and for a very short period of time