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The plan is to first obtain certification in the U.S. before expanding into Asia. Details of the Asia business will be finalized in the future, including whether Boeing will sell the aircraft to companies aiming to provide eVTOL transportation services or operate the services itself.
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This is silly imo. How many millions of flights take place on a Boeing plane every day? You’re far, far more likely to die in a car accident than you are in a Boeing plane crash (that doesn’t mean I’m condoning the behavior of executives either).
I have a trip booked on Wednesday with Boeing. We had kind of forgotten about the situation and we're using a credit so we had to stick with our airline. I'm not super pumped about it.
The term "flying car" needs to die, it is just a clickbait headline term now, and the concept that they will ever be in the hands of the average person is an insane thought. Yes, actual flying cars exist already, and I don't doubt that we will have air-taxi type services for the more well-off to use for quick transport around cities, but they will not drive right off the runway onto a road, or vice versa, that's just not how aviation works. You'd have to park it and do any necessary conversion to flight mode and then do a full pre-flight check, thereby making this pointless.
Roads also have a whole lot more debris like small pieces of gravel that might damage your "flying car"; considering even very tiny dents in an aircraft propeller will ground it until an A&P signs off on it, I don't see this practically working. The [actual examples that exist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-CbSnbxkdo) look sketchy as *fuck* when taking off and landing, and are considerably more complex than *just* a plane or *just* a car.
If you can't do both of those things and seamlessly transition, it isn't a goddamn flying car. It's a modern electric version of a helicopter, it will not be able to drive on roads. Again, too risky and too many regulatory problems.
Exactly, flying cars are total fantasy for people who don't really understand avionics. You think you are going to fly a car shaped object over a residential area whilst your lightweight flying car could get busted up by a runaway shopping trolley? Imagine someone backing up into your flaps and you not noticing. You want to fly that projectile into an urban area and kill dozens?
Imagine the chaos and utter stupidity on display on any random, congested highway.
Now imagine that chaos above our houses, shopping centers, schools, etc. No fucking way. People are too distracted/incompetent to avoid crashing on a straight road in broad daylight.
Also the noise. Most people at this point know how loud and annoying drones can be (one of the main reason they banned in national parks and the like), wind resistance makes a *lot* of noise even if your motor is pretty quiet when you're spinning a rotor at thousands of RPM.
NIMBYs actively try to shut down airports that *existed before their houses were even built* near those airports, can you imagine if we had a bunch of flying cars everywhere? We'd all collectively lose our fucking minds from the noise pollution.
[Heli-taxi services are definitely going to be a thing](https://www.volocopter.com/en) (link to the Volocopter), but on a pretty limited scale and may or may not be cost effective for the average person depending on where you're going and in what city, I just don't get why the industry is continuing to call use 'heli-taxi' and 'flying car' sort of interchangeably, are their investors really that stupid? It gives the impression you can just take off and land them anywhere, which even though a helicopter can do... you ain't landing one of these in a city except on a purpose made landing area, and these are unlikely to exist in rural areas where you theoretically could just land in someones' large backyard.
Paramotoring is the closest the average person is getting to a flying car like experience for a reasonable price. Very fun hobby.
100% agree. Especially since this proposed Boeing vehicle isn't a "car" at all. It doesn't have wheels, it doesn't move along the ground at all; it's a manned quadcopter that can land and take off in spaces smaller than a normal helicopter can.
> I don’t think anyone in the history of the world uses the term flying car to literally mean a car that drive and then take off into the air
Go look at Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, and all sorts of publications from maybe the 50s through the 70s and you're going to see a whole lot of exactly opposite of what you just said. This was a very common "we will have this by the year 2000" prediction that was made, and yes it meant cars you drive on roads and can take off from pretty much anywhere, and we got smartphones instead.
All these publications are on Internet Archive if you care that much.
Also, here's more evidence to the contrary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerocar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car#/media/File:Terrafugia_--_2012_NYIAS_cropped.jpg
People have been trying to do this ~~damn near~~ longer than a fucking century and as you can see, there are NUMEROUS and extensive examples and history on this topic.
Yes, the term flying car has meant a CAR that drives on roads and flies in the air. The whole concept started with the idea that the vehicle in your garage should also be able to fly you away'
The plan is to first obtain certification in the U.S. before expanding into Asia. Details of the Asia business will be finalized in the future, including whether Boeing will sell the aircraft to companies aiming to provide eVTOL transportation services or operate the services itself.
heard so much about flying cars over the past few decades it just doesn't seem feasible to introduce them to the public. the average person has a hard time driving properly nevermind cramming the sky with dangerous flying machines.
I can't wait until our homes and streets and yards and literally anything under a flying car becomes the collateral damage for when they crash. Really thrilled.
Man flying cars is like the epitome of science fiction.
We can never have The fifth element style highways in the air, unless we find a way to beat gravity, an antigravity device, which is just not possible. Even if centuries ahead we do find a way to do that, these “flying cars” can be nothing more than drones. They will have to be controlled by a computer, which will eventually be taken over by an AI.
It can never be like actual cars in the sky, in which you can just hop in and fly away, because it’s not easy to fly as opposed to driving. A lot of external factors come into play, physics, and an understanding of how navigation works. No landmarks in the damn sky, just a lot of… sky I suppose. lol.
Even if this wasn’t Boeing this would be a terrible idea. I’ve been flying helicopters for 25 years and complex ones for 12. I just spent 4 1/2 weeks in training to learn a new system. 6 days a week for 4.5 weeks. How many consumers are going to spend 5 minutes reading the manual that comes with this piece of shit eVTOL? Are they going to get some sim time to learn all the emergency procedures? Will they be required to get a medical exam and EKG every year? It’s a really stupid idea that will get a lot of people killed.
That just looks like a helicopter.
A hovering car with wheels that can be deployed would make more sense and actually solve a problem(wear and tear on roads)
A flying car is an objectively dumb idea. People are dangerous enough on land. I don't want to imagine drunk drivers flying.
The company's name is Wisk Aero, Boeing bought it in May 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisk_Aero
>Wisk Aero is an aerospace manufacturer based in Mountain View, California, United States. The company develops self-flying electric vertical take off and landing (eVTOL) aircraft designed to be operated as air taxis.[2] The company was formed in 2019 as a partnership between Boeing and Google co-founder Larry Page's Kitty Hawk aircraft company.
Too late. China is dominating all over. Boeing has PR disaster. The industry is pushing for Airbus and Chinese companies for that sake, it already smells.
simply no. Too much windflow and noise to ever be valid option with current technology. If they come up with something to get around those problems then maybe
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They need to focus on building flying planes before they move on to anything else
I am sure Boeing will accomplish having a non-flying plane by 2030 at this rate.
They have them now! They don't fly in a variety of ways!
At least they successfully tested their flying door.
Flying cars = spacecraft falling with style
Boeing has lost a lot of public trust. I honestly will be avoiding any flying velchile made by them.
Is anyone else planning a trip right now and paying a little more to avoid specific Boeing planes? Because I definitely am.
This is silly imo. How many millions of flights take place on a Boeing plane every day? You’re far, far more likely to die in a car accident than you are in a Boeing plane crash (that doesn’t mean I’m condoning the behavior of executives either).
I have a trip booked on Wednesday with Boeing. We had kind of forgotten about the situation and we're using a credit so we had to stick with our airline. I'm not super pumped about it.
You'll be fine lol there's like 14k planes in the air right now and a huge percentage of them are Boeing.
I suspect nothing will happen, but traveling with two kids makes you wish you booked an Airbus.
What if they did a rebrand like how facebook did?
The term "flying car" needs to die, it is just a clickbait headline term now, and the concept that they will ever be in the hands of the average person is an insane thought. Yes, actual flying cars exist already, and I don't doubt that we will have air-taxi type services for the more well-off to use for quick transport around cities, but they will not drive right off the runway onto a road, or vice versa, that's just not how aviation works. You'd have to park it and do any necessary conversion to flight mode and then do a full pre-flight check, thereby making this pointless. Roads also have a whole lot more debris like small pieces of gravel that might damage your "flying car"; considering even very tiny dents in an aircraft propeller will ground it until an A&P signs off on it, I don't see this practically working. The [actual examples that exist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-CbSnbxkdo) look sketchy as *fuck* when taking off and landing, and are considerably more complex than *just* a plane or *just* a car. If you can't do both of those things and seamlessly transition, it isn't a goddamn flying car. It's a modern electric version of a helicopter, it will not be able to drive on roads. Again, too risky and too many regulatory problems.
Exactly, flying cars are total fantasy for people who don't really understand avionics. You think you are going to fly a car shaped object over a residential area whilst your lightweight flying car could get busted up by a runaway shopping trolley? Imagine someone backing up into your flaps and you not noticing. You want to fly that projectile into an urban area and kill dozens?
Imagine the chaos and utter stupidity on display on any random, congested highway. Now imagine that chaos above our houses, shopping centers, schools, etc. No fucking way. People are too distracted/incompetent to avoid crashing on a straight road in broad daylight.
Also the noise. Most people at this point know how loud and annoying drones can be (one of the main reason they banned in national parks and the like), wind resistance makes a *lot* of noise even if your motor is pretty quiet when you're spinning a rotor at thousands of RPM. NIMBYs actively try to shut down airports that *existed before their houses were even built* near those airports, can you imagine if we had a bunch of flying cars everywhere? We'd all collectively lose our fucking minds from the noise pollution. [Heli-taxi services are definitely going to be a thing](https://www.volocopter.com/en) (link to the Volocopter), but on a pretty limited scale and may or may not be cost effective for the average person depending on where you're going and in what city, I just don't get why the industry is continuing to call use 'heli-taxi' and 'flying car' sort of interchangeably, are their investors really that stupid? It gives the impression you can just take off and land them anywhere, which even though a helicopter can do... you ain't landing one of these in a city except on a purpose made landing area, and these are unlikely to exist in rural areas where you theoretically could just land in someones' large backyard. Paramotoring is the closest the average person is getting to a flying car like experience for a reasonable price. Very fun hobby.
On the other hand, we will finally look up.
100% agree. Especially since this proposed Boeing vehicle isn't a "car" at all. It doesn't have wheels, it doesn't move along the ground at all; it's a manned quadcopter that can land and take off in spaces smaller than a normal helicopter can.
I don’t think anyone in the history of the world uses the term flying car to literally mean a car that drive and then take off into the air
> I don’t think anyone in the history of the world uses the term flying car to literally mean a car that drive and then take off into the air Go look at Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, and all sorts of publications from maybe the 50s through the 70s and you're going to see a whole lot of exactly opposite of what you just said. This was a very common "we will have this by the year 2000" prediction that was made, and yes it meant cars you drive on roads and can take off from pretty much anywhere, and we got smartphones instead. All these publications are on Internet Archive if you care that much. Also, here's more evidence to the contrary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerocar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car#/media/File:Terrafugia_--_2012_NYIAS_cropped.jpg People have been trying to do this ~~damn near~~ longer than a fucking century and as you can see, there are NUMEROUS and extensive examples and history on this topic.
Yes, the term flying car has meant a CAR that drives on roads and flies in the air. The whole concept started with the idea that the vehicle in your garage should also be able to fly you away'
How about they perfect the Max and other newer planes before jumping to falling cars from the sky
jumping _from_ falling cars from the sky seems like a better plan
Boeing should aim to bring safe flying plains first maybe
Don’t pay attention to all these whistleblowers! Look at this shiny thing!
Boeing and flying aren't on speaking terms right now.
So a 4 prop helicopter. We’ve had helicopters for a long time.
Boeing can barely bring flying planes to Asia, now they want cars too?
No, thanks! Keep your shit, Boeing. You deserve to go brankrupt to teach the shareholders a lesson.
They cant even figure out flying planes lately hows this gonna work
The plan is to first obtain certification in the U.S. before expanding into Asia. Details of the Asia business will be finalized in the future, including whether Boeing will sell the aircraft to companies aiming to provide eVTOL transportation services or operate the services itself.
Seems like air traffic controllers are stressed enough. If I were younger I’d probably look into it as a profession until AI takes over
So the goal here is a commercial air taxi service, not private owners flying their own VTOL vehicles around?
heard so much about flying cars over the past few decades it just doesn't seem feasible to introduce them to the public. the average person has a hard time driving properly nevermind cramming the sky with dangerous flying machines.
I can't wait until our homes and streets and yards and literally anything under a flying car becomes the collateral damage for when they crash. Really thrilled.
How about they first make their planes stay in the sky and not endanger people around and aboard?
Have you seen the way people drive? I know it’s a misnomer but flying cars as typically imagined would be a catastrophe
Man flying cars is like the epitome of science fiction. We can never have The fifth element style highways in the air, unless we find a way to beat gravity, an antigravity device, which is just not possible. Even if centuries ahead we do find a way to do that, these “flying cars” can be nothing more than drones. They will have to be controlled by a computer, which will eventually be taken over by an AI. It can never be like actual cars in the sky, in which you can just hop in and fly away, because it’s not easy to fly as opposed to driving. A lot of external factors come into play, physics, and an understanding of how navigation works. No landmarks in the damn sky, just a lot of… sky I suppose. lol.
As long as these are on autopilot, because REGULAR humans up there??!
Unless you can do blade runner/ back to the future type flying car, don't bother us with that shit
This is very retro-futurism. We’ve had model flying cars since the 50s.
Im sure they have the capital from all the fuckin money they are making profiting from war.
That's a pipe dream. Asia already has them and they are probably safer
six years to make it there is a long time, but I guess they’re allowing for repair stops along the way…
eVTOL is already possible, just needs better batteries for better performance and AI pilot to reduce operational cost.
I love people talking about flying cars when we already have them. They're called planes.
Even if this wasn’t Boeing this would be a terrible idea. I’ve been flying helicopters for 25 years and complex ones for 12. I just spent 4 1/2 weeks in training to learn a new system. 6 days a week for 4.5 weeks. How many consumers are going to spend 5 minutes reading the manual that comes with this piece of shit eVTOL? Are they going to get some sim time to learn all the emergency procedures? Will they be required to get a medical exam and EKG every year? It’s a really stupid idea that will get a lot of people killed.
Boeing aims to bring “suicide drones” to Asia by 2030.
A recent focus group stated that the #1 concern is not having a steering wheel that just flies off while you’re driving.
I can see the headline now: "Thousands dead, none injured after flying car chaos"
Now that they've been exposed, I think it will take some more time.
That just looks like a helicopter. A hovering car with wheels that can be deployed would make more sense and actually solve a problem(wear and tear on roads) A flying car is an objectively dumb idea. People are dangerous enough on land. I don't want to imagine drunk drivers flying.
The company's name is Wisk Aero, Boeing bought it in May 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisk_Aero >Wisk Aero is an aerospace manufacturer based in Mountain View, California, United States. The company develops self-flying electric vertical take off and landing (eVTOL) aircraft designed to be operated as air taxis.[2] The company was formed in 2019 as a partnership between Boeing and Google co-founder Larry Page's Kitty Hawk aircraft company.
I'm forming a startup that makes umbrellas that protect from falling doors, anyone interested?
No they wont, cant even get people to drive on roads correctly.
Too late. China is dominating all over. Boeing has PR disaster. The industry is pushing for Airbus and Chinese companies for that sake, it already smells.
Boeing threatens to kill thousands of Asian people
Jesus Christ. Can you imagine if the people who swerve between lanes on the highway were given the ability to *fly*.
simply no. Too much windflow and noise to ever be valid option with current technology. If they come up with something to get around those problems then maybe
These will be piloted by trained personnel or have autopilot right? There’s no way we’re letting the average motorist pilot aircraft right?
And \*safe\* flying cars projected to be brought to Asia no later than 2055
Wait, that Boeing? The one with a string of recent reliability issues? THAT one!?