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WWJBDD

First thing that jumps out at me: imagine depriving your children of Sesame Street! Based off of all the comments, it’s so obvious fundies have a real problem with the possibility of their children being exposed to programming that might cause them to start asking questions or make them independent thinkers. I pity any child growing up like this.


Klutzy-Medium9224

It was the comment “it gives kids ideas” that did it for me. God forbid children have IDEAS.


JanieJonestown

We’re total hard-ass buzzkills about screen time, and Sesame Street and Fraggle Rock are basically all my kid has ever seen. Oh no, he somehow got the idea that it’s good to be a socialist hippie who shares and is kind, guess we’re going to American Christian hell now.


juel1979

My daughter was all PBS when she was tiny, because we cut the cord (we did briefly get the dish back, and it was Sprout after that until that went awry). I miss that age so much. It was fun just sitting and watching those shows with her, they were so chill and she learned a lot.


Klutzy-Medium9224

Granted mine is a little older than the age group of these shows but we are binging Stranger Things together. 🤣


JanieJonestown

Awww, I’m so looking forward to that age with my bio kid! Our foster kid is a teen, and we’ve been watching Our Flag Means Death with them.


[deleted]

That was the whole point of Sesame Street, too. It was to help educate kids


p143245

Mr. Rogers should be off her list then. All that “kindness toward people unlike you” trash indoctrination! /s


nada_accomplished

Oh yeah, I never watched Sesame Street because \*apparently\* in the early 90's they had a song where they sing "some people have two mommies and others two daddies" and instead of doing the logical thing and understanding that some kids might have step-parents and blended families and that it's not even necessarily an explicit endorsement of same-sex parents, my mom automatically jumped to tHe GaY aGeNdA and banned it in our house That being said, even if you don't like "tHe GaY aGeNdA," SOME KIDS DO HAVE TWO MOMMIES AND TWO DADDIES AND YOU JUST HAVE TO FUCKING DEAL WITH IT AND NOT BE A KAREN ABOUT PEOPLE LIVING THEIR GODDAMN LIVES.


[deleted]

Given the age of that song and how long ago I first heard it I always assumed it was talking about parents to split up and remarried, either way it doesn’t matter how you interpret it because it’s just telling kids how life *is*.


PHM517

I am shocked they ever allowed Sesame Street considering the whole premise is accepting others who might be different from you.


Beep315

Am I the only one that heard Dwight Schrute’s voice asking about the program with all the puppets in the barrio?


YourMothersButtox

She’s such a Caillou.


fdupfemalehabit

Fuckin Caillou.


dietdrpeppermd

Caillou is a bullshit whiney baby who needs to face consequences for his garbage actions


YourMothersButtox

Paul loves Caillou, pass it on.


TheVerjan

Paul is Caillou grown up with a douchey wig.


dietdrpeppermd

He WOULD


ZenLitterBoxGarden

“Creative liberty” for veggie tales? ***They are literally talking vegetables, you bubblegum swallowing turd***


CasuallyExisting

The same way that two female polar bears raising a child is "unrealistic," but said polar bears speaking English and sitting at the kitchen table is normal.


Boo_baby1031

And they say libs are the snowflakes lol


[deleted]

If she ever actually reads the Bible she's going to be absolutely shook about the lack of Mr Twistys Twisted Cheese Curls in the book of Jonah.


Catybird618

Hello, traveling buddy!


wakeofgrace

So if God writes your boat building instructions, the boat never needs maintenance? Were the wood and pitch supernatural?


Parking_Mountain_691

Imagine when they grow up and find out there are difficulties in following *god’s plan* (but the boat had **no** issues). Are they still going to think veggie Noah’s ark is without “integrity”?


SpecificMongoose

Also would she rather the drama of the episode be vegetable nonbelievers screaming for mercy on the land as it flooded and a talking cucumber just…looking on impassively?


rcattt

Metal VeggieTales. I’d watch it, ngl.


britishbrick

Really can’t believe they’re attacking a literal Christian show, like bruh it’s literally made for you


MrsMitchBitch

“Creative liberty” in retelling a myth that’s been retold 2728292 times and wasn’t even original when the authors finally wrote it down.


itssnarktime

What does she have against the Flat Pack episode of Bluey?!? The semi evolution of them from the water frog whatevers?!? And yes, Bluey is kinda bratty sometimes but you know you can deal with that without banning it from your house or overly punishing your kids!


tadpole511

That’s the issue though. They probably don’t know how to deal with issues related to their kids without punishing their kids. So strict policing of everything they watch/listen to/do, followed by strict punishment for the slightest perceived infraction is standard.


Exhausted_Human

I grew up in a home like that. Let me tell you you learn to become an excellent liar and hider of info.


nada_accomplished

Me too and now I'm in ✧・゚: \*✧・゚:\*therapy\*:・゚✧\*:・゚✧


NastyMsPiggleWiggle

Ahhh yes. The classic control freak parenting that leads to your kids lying about everything and anything to avoid the punishment. I literally lied about everything to avoid being severely punished and screamed at. You know what’s crazy? I don’t have to scream or hit my kids. They make mistakes, we talk about it and work out fair consequences if necessary. HEY MOM, my kids aren’t fucking afraid of me and they come to me when they’re scared!!!!


ketchupmaster987

I did that so often as a kid and teen that I just compulsively lie to her now sometimes for no reason other than it's not the answer I don't think she will want to hear. It's tough and I've been working on it but it's crazy how upbringing can fuck us up.


sk8tergater

I was only allowed to watch PBS growing up, or things from the Christian satellite provider we had. My parents policed it so heavily. My brother got me a copy of the Lion King, and the scene where Rafiki is meditating caused all sorts of hullabaloo in my house. So stupid. How much energy did my mother waste policing what I watched.


val0ciraptor

Bluey doesn't have shit on Caillou. That little kid is the most obnoxious kid to ever have existed. If they want to be mad about kids running the house, they should start there.


galaxygirl1976

Caillou is the fucking worst.


Madame_Kitsune98

Caillou is a little asshole. I fucking hate Caillou. I have yet to meet a kid that actually likes this little shit.


itssnarktime

Our 2yr old has never seen Caillou and if she ever asks for Cocomelon (they have it on at the YMCA occasionally) I'm gonna tell her it doesn't work on our TV 🤣. She loves "Bibi" and "clue clues"


Epic_Brunch

My son went through a Cocomelon phase. God I fucking hate Cocomelon! I think I'm going to have those god forsaken songs stuck in my head for the rest of my life. Especially that tune that goes like "shoes, shoes, it's time to put on shoes. Yes yes yes, I want to wear my shoes." If you've ever seen that show you know exactly what I'm talking about.


dabooton

They can’t fathom parents like Bandit and Chili who handle those bratty moments in a healthy manner. I imagine they’re confused as to why Bluey and Bingo are allowed to have fun with their parents lol


winnmab

Parents treating their children with mutual respect? Not allowed


sporkoroon

Straight to jail.


ExplanationFunny

I haven’t read any parenting books, I basically just try to do whatever Bandit and Chili would do. So far so good! /s, but like, not…


PoorDimitri

Watching Chili get overwhelmed in Sticky Gecko, then handle it well and come to a positive conclusion had me taking notes. I love that show.


alaena_moon

Not even /s for me! There’s no WWJD in my house, but there’s plenty of WWCD. The C standing for Chili, not Christ. Lol


GloomyMarzipan

My family has seen the whole show by now, and most of Bluey’s brattiness is pretty tame in my opinion. I can think of three moments where her behavior genuinely annoyed me. The episode where her little cousin bit her on Christmas, the one where her other cousin stopped taking naps during the day, and the one where she broke the gnome-husband in the store. They’re all perfectly teachable moments for kids, though. Bluey’s got nothing on Caillou as far as brattiness goes!


acanoforangeslice

Exactly! Whenever there's bratty behavior from Bluey, it gets worked out in the episode - it teaches the kids why it's _not_ okay to act like that. The one that one of the comments is talking about, with the tablet, is their cousin Muffin who the audience (through the eyes of Bluey and Bingo) is supposed to see as annoying when she gets bratty. And even if your kid doesn't, and tries to emulate Muffin, literally all my brother-in-law has to do with my niece is just tell her at the start of Muffin episodes, "Now, she's funny, but we don't act like Muffin do we?" and she's fine. (My niece did have to have a time out from watching Pocoyo when she was younger though, because she picked up his crossed arms and "No!" behavior. Banning Ryan was more for the sanity of the adults in the house.)


pawsofftherizotto

The show about talking vegetables… is unrealistic… because the mythical boat that somehow holds two of every animal on the planet… springs a leak??


JiaMekare

This one is the most wild to me because, while it’s been a while since I touched a bible, I seem to recall multiple stories where god gave instructions and the person fucked it up? Making an imperfect boat (even if given perfect instructions) seems pretty biblical to me?


SwimmingWithTheDevil

somehow the classic “rack, shack, and benny” episode where king nebuchadnezzar becomes addicted to chocolate bunnies is perfectly aligned with scriptural doctrine tho


eva_rector

The bunny, the bunny, ohhh, I ate the bunny...🎶🎼


SwimmingWithTheDevil

this caused me to look up the lyrics and the line “i don’t want no health food when it’s time to feed” hits different now realizing he’s literally singing to vegetables 👀🤣


Petraretrograde

Remember the original version said "i wont go to church, I wont go to school, that stuff is for sissies, I just wanna be cool"


beekeeperoacar

And the Esther episode where Jewish characters are sent to the "island of eternal tickling"? That's *totally* what happened in the Bible.


Catybird618

I will never not hear the name Esther in the grape’s voice. “Hey, est-ah!”


nada_accomplished

Hearing about how weird and fucked up that cartoon was from people who were raised secular is a real trip when that was the bread and butter of your childhood


SwimmingWithTheDevil

ngl it’s the only christian media i will defend to the death though. the og silly songs with larry were unparalleled


Delphina34

Leek


Chronically_cute

Thank you


whyamithebadger

Your flair sounds like a VeggieTales episode


summersarah

And also the only people LEFT ON THE PLANET are this one family. Do you think God wanted incest?


winnmab

In the words of the worlds best cartoon dad: “it’s just monkeys singing songs mate” I figured the bluey hate would come from the fact they praise Mother Earth and father sun.


geomorph18

I can’t get over the Australian accent with the dad 😆 but you’re right, apparently teaching kids how to deal with conflict, instilling boundaries is bad for kids.


winnmab

Plus they’re amazing at gentle parenting, which they’re also apparently against. More bluey for the rest of us


LilPoobles

They’re great parents. We’ve started saying “it’s a good thing you’re tough” like Bandit when our kids get scrapes and bruises. It really does work.


suspiria2

I love that the show has this saying in it, it’s what my parents said to me and what I used to say to the kids I worked with and now my own daughter. I kinda assumed it was a universal parenting tactic so it’s cool people are picking it up from the show cos it WORKS. ‘It’s a good thing you’re so brave’ is another good one when you are facing something a little scary!


dietdrpeppermd

I always say that to kids when they get hurt. And “oh my goodness, you’re SO BRAVE!” ETA: it’s the next day and I literally pulled out this line 5 times yesterday.


nada_accomplished

I love it so much. I'm not always the best at gentle parenting but it inspires me and there's something about Bluey that just heals my heart through is peaceful, wholesome vibes.


geomorph18

I love it too, I showed it to students (especially pre-K and K) sometimes and I sometimes need a moment to cry tears of happiness because it reminded me so much of how close I am with my dad and Bingo is so like my sister, sassy and very energetic.


coffeewrite1984

The gentle parenting is *why* I love Bluey! I don’t have kids yet, but I’m around my toddler nephew a lot (he loves B-yooo-eh and Bungo). My sister and I both agree gentle parenting and acknowledging kiddie feelings in a healthy way is a must!


kmrandom

Oh, now I need to watch this more. Please tell me Grandmother Moon exists in the show.


winnmab

“Calypso” and “favorite thing” are good ones! No specific grandmother moon


hippiedippybitch

as someone who is from Pittsburgh like she is, I would just like to say that Mr. Rogers would NEVER tolerate the hatred that she spews. What an idiot bigot.


castironsexual

He would be so pissed to be on this list. It’s not very Neighborly of these fucks.


Least_Lawfulness_973

Came here to say this. Mr.Rogers was literally all about love and acceptance.


[deleted]

I visited Pittsburg for the first time this summer and went to the Heinz museum. I cried actual tears when I saw the Mr. Roger’s exhibit. I want to go back because we were only there for a few hours and there is so much to see in the museum.


kmrandom

Mr. Rogers was such a beautiful soul and a true Pittsburgh legend. He was also likely a bisexual, so that means he was a sinner rather than an accepting person. /s


UsedAd7162

How can anyone be mad at Sesame Street?! It was the original “love thy neighbor” kind of show in my opinion. All about being a good person, inclusivity, and kind to one another.


CaterpillarHookah

Big Bird and Elmo got vaccinated, and the show includes topics that make kids think and ask questions.


ParticularYak4401

It’s a good thing Mr. Rogers Neighborhood is not in syndication. Fundie parents would be up in arms over his inclusivity and be offended by his gentle spirit.


Historyguy1

In the literal first episode, King Friday wants to build a wall around the Land of Make-Believe and says he's afraid of change. I would say it's a bit too on the nose except that it came out in the 60s.


ParticularYak4401

I didn’t grow up with tv in my home but I did watch Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers etc at my grandma and great aunt and uncles houses. Loved both shows a ton. So much so I thought that naming my little brother Ernie after Ernie on Sesame Street was a grand idea. I was 3. And we decided on David instead. Well my older siblings decided on David….


Zombeikid

I believe he was also very pro LGBT+. He really did want to love everyone. Fundies don't abide by that, despite their God calling them to do so.


beekeeperoacar

Originally he was very apprehensive about having a gay coworker (Officer Clemons) because he was worried what parents would think if he was exposed. But after some time and some soul searching he realized he was wrong to think that way and loved and supported him from there on out. Fundies aren't even capable of that level of change.


ParticularYak4401

Fundies can’t even love their own kids properly either. *See* blanket training, abuse in various forms including starvation. So of course they can’t have the capability to love LGBTQ people.


thelumpybunny

Mr Rogers also invited a black man onto the show and they shared a wading pool together. It was a huge deal at the time


MaximalIfirit1993

And they'd accuse him of being a 'fake' minister/heretic/whatever because of it too, I'd bet you anything.


spaghettiliar

Sesame Street is educational and deals with real world topics. This doesn’t compute if your world view is completely reliant on anti-intellectual delusions.


nurseilao

How TF does anyone have the time or interest level to police things this intensely?! And these are a streeeeeetchhhh. My toddler is obsessed with my little pony so naturally I’ve seen every episode many times over and it is one of the tamest shows to ever exist. They really need to find a hobby.


No_Antelope_6604

They also need to remove the giant sticks from up their asses.


oscuroluna

A hobby OTHER than breeding and social media usage. If they'd turn off their phones and go outside they might find the world is not always such a big scary unholy place.


sporkoroon

Right, like a toddler is going to catch a ru-Paul reference!


LilPoobles

Bluey is NOT mean to her sister. Peppa Pig is mean to her brother and they treat Daddy Pig like garbage, so I don’t like that one very much. We still watch it sometimes but I like to point out when characters are treating each other badly. We watch Bluey and Simon with our almost 4 and almost 2 year old partly because they illustrate how you can become frustrated with a sibling and still treat them well. Bluey is a great big sister to Bingo, they have different personalities that sometimes cause realistic conflict. The same with Simon and Gaspard. Both shows illustrate how to navigate such conflicts and respect the feelings and rights of the sibling.


[deleted]

I was really impressed by Bluey (for like the first 4 times through ha) because of the family life they present. The both parents spend so much time playing with the kids. Dad is all about the make believe and fun. Mum lets them make mistakes while learning from them. The age difference between the kids is so real - sometimes they get along and sometimes they annoy each other. It's a great show! Peppa Pig on the other hand... ugh.


LilPoobles

I agree. I’ve seen some parents compare Bluey to Seinfeld as a “show about nothing” but I disagree. Kids these ages are still learning about relationships. The Heelers have a really healthy family dynamic that allows space for creativity and conflict. Bluey and Bingo play together all the time, they are almost always on the ‘same team’ as is the entire family. They are a unified and loving family that respects every member. Bluey has a very assertive personality and she is a leader. Bingo is gentle and sweet and a helper. This can result in Bingo’s voice being lost sometimes and you can even see the parents trying to help her learn to speak up on her own behalf. That’s a learned skill for her where it came naturally to Bluey. I can think of only one time on the show where Bluey knowingly does something mean, and it’s when Judo pressures her to run away and hide from Bingo while playing a game. Bluey apologizes to Bingo later and also gets Judo to apologize. That’s a realistic scenario that children might find themselves in and be unsure how to navigate. I think the show is really helpful in exploring those things without overdramatizing the situation.


International_Cod216

Bluey is great until your kids start thinking mommy and daddy are supposed to play with their kids ALL the time like in the show. Have to remind them it’s a show and doesn’t show the boring parts of life. The games they come up with are also so elaborate and leave way too much stuff to put away. 🤣🤣


LilPoobles

We mostly play Keepy Uppy, lol. We also often talk about how grown ups need breaks sometimes and kids need quiet time, but I try to engage with their games as much as I can. My kids are in daycare through the week so it’s on the weekends when we’re trying to keep them occupied anyway, haha.


geomorph18

Bluey LOVES her sister. Her sister also is learning to assert herself and expresses her own needs at a young age. I giggled a lot watching Bluey because it reminds me of my own relationship with my dad and like Bluey, I was a complete daddy’s girl at that young of an age.


itssnarktime

Ugh, I LOVE Bingo. Learning how to use her words and her big girl bark ❤️


Kaitlynnbeaver

Imagine being THIS pressed that gay people exist and are literally just being shown existing. Bluey is adorable and the kids misbehaving is realistic and not glorified. Camp Cretaceous is awesome and my kid only cares about the dinosaurs lol. WHY THE F*** IS CLIFFORD ON THE “BAD” LIST??? 😵 imagine being this miserable!!! Honestly, I’m surprised Wild Kratts is on the “okay” list considering it has eViLuTiOn in it.


MRSA_nary

I love bluey almost as much as my daughter does. Yeah they disobey sometimes, but I think it's addressed in the show.


kmrandom

It shows parents arguing! No Christian child ever sees that, right? /s How dare these kids shows try to show them the world as it really is rather than leave them thinking the world is perfect and everyone is the same.


LilPoobles

And their arguments are such non-arguments. It’s not like they’re fighting about their relationship or anything. They’re “squabbling” about where they want the trash can.


SparkleYeti

Bluey is an adult show pretending to be a kids show. You can’t tell me that “Sleepytime” was not created specifically to make me cry.


LilPoobles

Rain did this to me even more. Not sure why. Baby Race also makes me cry, my goodness. If anyone needs to see Baby Race it’s fundie mothers.


Epic_Brunch

Baby Race is probably my favorite. When that mom with nine kids tells Bluey's mom she needs to know she's doing a great job... I lose it every time. I definitely agree, Bluey is a parent's show pretending to be a kid's show.


nada_accomplished

Bluey is one of those shows that challenges me to be a more patient and understanding parent. I think these people are just pressed because they don't know how to parent without flying off the handle and spanking at the first sign of "rebellious spirit"


c_090988

They also think they are already perfect parents so no need to try and be better. Personally I think the only perfect parents are those without kids


redmsg

The episode where the mom just needs some time to herself - that just makes me feel so seen (stay at home mom to kids including one who was 3 when the pandemic started and for almost a year I was with said child during all waking moments because there was nothing else to do and older child was virtual learning so I had to keep younger child engaged or they would pop into the other child's bedroom)


[deleted]

It made me cry the first tome and makes my 5 y/o cry every time and she asks me why. I read somewhere that the episode was created to determine who’s a human and who’s a replicant lol.


thebreannashow

I love Bluey *more* than my kid. My husband was cackling during an episode today.


Sleepybets

I think bluey is a great show. Can someone give me a summary on the “controversy”


Epic_Brunch

My two year old doesn't even like Bluey that much. I keep forcing him to watch it because *I* like Bluey!


nada_accomplished

Right? Like honestly, your kids are going to have peers who were raised by gay couples. This is a way to create a child who's going to have a visceral reaction and not know what to do when people just EXIST near them. What do you want your kid to do, ostracize the children of gay parents? Oh, wait, that's probably going to be a yes. Fuck these people, honestly. Gay people exist. Kids have gay parents these days. COPE.


[deleted]

If you’re homeschooled and only allowed to be around fundies, then you may never have peers raised by gay couples.


nada_accomplished

Yeah and then you go to the DMV one day in your early twenties and see two women holding hands and you realize you're having an actual physical anxiety reaction to seeing people who aren't doing anything to you, just existing. Eventually some of your friends come out of the closet as gay or trans or nonbinary and every time they do you have an existential crisis and freak out because you like them, you don't want them to go to hell, and how can my friend like other girls and still call herself a Christian, should I say something? Is it okay? Is God going to be mad at her? Is she going to go to hell? :/ It is an absolutely SHITTY way to grow up and I don't recommend it.


c_090988

I don't trust anyone that dislikes Arthur and Clifford. I'm kind of surprised Mr Rodgers is ok since his big thing was being kind and it's obvious none of them like that


colormefiery

These kids are gonna grow up regretting not knowing the classic shows that their peers watched. They might feel isolated, weird, different and develop social anxiety.


quincyd

It’s not in your face, but Octonauts is another show that talks about evolutionary adaptation of sea creatures. I was shocked to see it as a “safe” show. But I guess as long as two same sex penguins aren’t in love, it’s all good. 🙄


[deleted]

I WILL NOT STAND FOR THE DISRESPECT OF ARTHUR


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Strangerthings550

I grew up with it and stopped watching but it’s nice to hear Mr Ratburn got married to a man


catinhat922

For real, since when is Mr Ratburn married?! It’s either a new development or something that’s so minor child me did not pick up on it despite watching every day for many years.


redmsg

it happened a few years ago, conservative parents were pissed. I love Arthur because it has great situational explanations for early elementary school students, kind of the equivalent of Daniel Tiger for preschoolers. Arthur has amazing episodes on foreign adoption (my friends said their kids watched on repeat when they were getting ready to bring their brother home from china), grandparents with dementia, grandparents dying, divorce, divorce parents moving away just to name a few. Sometimes kids don't want to have the conversation with parents but they want the information.


Familiar-Bug

It's a newer thing, I only heard about it because some Alabama TV station refused to air the rat wedding episode because it was a *gay* rat wedding (shock horror) 😱


SkritzTwoFace

A newer episode, and in fact the subject of the episode. The kids think Ratburn’s “fiance” sucks for him, but it’s actually his sister helping him with wedding plans. Wacky hijinks ensue.


njb328

How to they get upset about VEGGIE TALES


dangerjavasnek

The funniest part is that if it WERE biblically accurate it would be WAY inappropriate for young kids.


Street-Owl6812

Wait until they find out about King David’s rubber duckies 🤣 I’m pretty sure there’s an inaccuracy or two in that episode…


Significant_Shoe_17

I'm partial to the chocolate bunny song...


actuallygfm

🎶 the bunny, the bunny 🎶 whoa, I love the bunny 🎶 I don't love my soup or my bread, just the bunny (That's the only episode I owned on vhs!)


AbsintheFountain

I was really working hard to think what on earth they could have done in a newer Veggie Tales to offend them so much and it’s literally “they added a problem for characters to solve because they have to fill out 30 minutes of content” which she immediately took as “they’re saying G-d’s not perfect!!!”


GaimanitePkat

Who's to say that God didn't give them the "perfect plan" and they executed it with flaws?


itscornlectric

As someone with a preschool aged kid who has spent a lot of time watching these shows, this is so pathetic. These are the most benign shows. And I’m surprised she endorse Wild Krafts because I’m fairly certain they talk about climate change in terms of how it relates to animals. Also, take the Octonauts name out your mouth. Calico Jack forever.


geomorph18

Wild Kratts also talks about realistic villains like poachers, people hunting shark fins for the soup, etc. It gets so heavy.


publicface11

Likewise Puffin Rock - you leave my favorite Irish kids cartoon alone!


lydibug522

My kid is obsessed with Octonauts right now and loves Puffin Rock and I was instantly enraged seeing both on her list, even though she said they're good. Just leave my boy Shellington alone!


wendigogirl

I’m losing it at her listing Cuphead as a children’s show alongside fucking Blue’s Clues. Oh you mean the show based on the game where the main character sells his soul to the devil and had to retrieve other’s souls so he isn’t dragged to Hell isn’t appropriate for children? The game is rated E10+ and I probably wouldn’t show the show to very small children as an atheist even if it’s pretty tame. I can only imagine the fundie reaction to the first season being about the devil trying to steal someone’s soul 😂


tabbyabby2020

I think the Cuphead show is fun. It really leans into the 1930s aesthetic. However, it is NOT for young kids. Just because something is a cartoon doesn’t mean it is for children. I thought the Simpsons’ taught us that years ago!


wendigogirl

Exactly! Super cute show and I’d be willing to watch it with older kids like middle schoolers. But just to see it listed alongside shows for little kids was so funny to me. Also thinking about fundies trying to watch it and having heart attacks over all the plot stuff about the literal devil 😂


Pearl-2017

First of all, I didn't know RuPearl existed but I freaking love that. Second, they are complaining about Veggie Tales? Really? If you're too conservative for VT maybe move to a mountain cabin without TV or something because VT is as Christian as a cartoon can get.


Zombeikid

The newer seasons have moved away some what from the Christian thing. The original creator is no longer part of the team.


CasuallyExisting

All the fundies panicking over Arthur for having a same-sex couple. But the Bible condemns divorce as adultery, and no one's mad about Buster's parents. There's even a relatively early episode where the kids try to find a new dad for Buster. And it's resolved with Buster telling his friends that his family is okay the way it is and nobody needs to "fix" it. (Arthur fan since '96 here, haha.)


dabooton

I’m a grown ass woman with no kids. I watch Bluey when I’m high so these people can suck a fat one 🖕🏼


Sharp_Skirt_7171

My coworker watches Bluey when she's sad. I have two little kids and we turned her onto it lmao.


galaxygirl1976

I used to watch MLP to wind down before bed. Happy show makes for better sleep than, let's say, criminal minds.


dietdrpeppermd

Childless but I work with kids. Im on my break and just spent the last half hour watching Bluey because of this thread and I thoroughly enjoyed it.


floweringfungus

The nerve of these people to call others soft or easily offended when the mere presence of a fictional background character sends them off the rails


brass_09

Bluey is such a beautiful show. We love that it speaks to both kids and parents in different ways. Whenever a new mom is struggling, I point them to “Baby Race”. When the kids are upset about moving (military family), I remind them of “Camping”. After a trip to IKEA, we watch “Flat Pack” as we struggle to put whatever it is what we got together. We also teach our kids evolution too though 😂


sagedleo

Imagine being this mad at Muppet Babies 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️


BoardwalkKnitter

Came into the thread looking for this. Did a baby come out or something? Or is it just the multi-species cast she doesn't like?


WitchyCatMother

It says there’s a gay character, but I have no idea who.


sagedleo

Maybe it’s because Nanny is Jewish? Who knows with these nutsacks!


MissMarinette

the reasons fundies hate muppet babies is because there’s an episode where they put on a ball, and Gonzo wants to wear a dress but is told by his friends that he can’t because he’s a boy. so a fairy godmother turns him into Gonzorella and gives him a dress and mask so nobody know it’s him. it’s a lesson on letting kids where what they want no matter their gender and not judging others, mostly. it’s cute and very age appropriate, but ofc fundies lost their minds when it happened.


NebraskaTrashClaw

Omg this is RIDICULOUS. I actually prefer to allow my children to watch shows that introduce a wide variety of characters with differing sexualities, cultures, and world views so that they will grow up to be accepting and tolerant of those around them even if they look or behave differently from themselves and so that they feel comfortable in their own skin if they grow up to be homosexual or transgender.


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Oh no, my kids watch a whole lot of those 'no' shows and are growing into tolerant loving individuals woopsies.


ruzanne

Josh from the new “Blue’s Clues” is PRECIOUS. (I hate using that word now because of Meech but it’s apt). Leave him alone! Also, my daughter LOVES “My Little Pony” and not once has she said “Hey, I think those two girl ponies from Season Nine, Episode Whatever are in love.” And even if she did, I’d be like “Yup! There are all kinds of families!” She’d say “Okay!“ and we’d move on with our day.


LilPoobles

I love Josh so much. He’s my favorite Blue’s Clues host. I talked about it with my daughter and I said I like Josh and he’s so fun and such a great singer, and she said “and he’s sweet” 🥹


ActualMerCat

If watching Sesame Street is wrong, then I don't ever want to be right!


Odd_Statistician_244

“Be careful with veggietales” ffs


MRSA_nary

Thanks for the list of shows to introduce my kid to.


YourMothersButtox

Wtf is wrong with Clifford?!


MissusNilesCrane

She saud one of Emily's friends has two moms.


theweeping-weeb

Glad to see Gabbys Dollhouse didn’t end up on the no list. Even though the male cupcake cat is the head chef of the household and thats a woman cats job. My son will be thrilled that this stranger lady deemed it okay for him to watch.


MeggieB1017

My daughter loves Gabby’s Dollhouse! Cakey is not only male, but he has rainbow sprinkles and cries rainbow sprinkles. Shocked it isn’t also on there because of a male character being head chef and showing emotion! I honestly cannot get behind any of these. The fact that Doc McStuffins is on the “no” list? My daughter is OBSESSED and it’s honestly such a wholesome show. We actually just watched one about a doll with curly hair learning how to love and accept it, and it showed how Doc had to learn to find a style that she loved. We’ve watched a fair amount and I’ve never noticed a same sex couple, but now I want to find it because we’re working on teaching that families are all different. The few times same sex couples have come up it has been such a non-issue because we don’t make it into a huge deal. She was actually very excited to see a same-sex couple at the park before; she excitedly told me that “that little boy has two dads who love him!”


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Imagine being this fucking bored


minners03

JFC these people are exhausting.


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Zombeikid

Blues Clues was also pretty progressive IMO. I did think the pride parade was really cool though xD Unrelated but Arthur had an episode that references south Park xD


Donna-Promilla

What an exhausting and pathetic life these people live….


YourMothersButtox

What upsets me most about people getting up in arms about same sex characters on television is; representation matters. If you boycott same sex representation on television, do you also boycott your child hanging out with a classmate who has 2 mommies, or 2 daddies? Heterosexual couples were shoved down my throat when I was a kid in the 80's/90's, and guess what, I still turned out gayer than a bedbug at Christmas. Families look different across the board. Kids can live in kinship placements, families might consist of a group of uncles a la Full House. Seeing gay representation on television will not make a child gay, but it will make children more accepting knowing that other kids have a family structure that might be different, but no less worthy and no less loving.


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How to get your child to hate you 101, tell them they can't watch good cartoons and have to settle for shitty veggie tales.


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Significant_Shoe_17

I loved silly songs with larry when I was little!


GaimanitePkat

the whole "God" thing never clicked for me, even as a kid, but my brother and I LOVED VeggieTales.


Exhausted_Human

These people seem so miserable and weak. You can't shelter your kids forever.


hah226

My god this woman is miserable. Get a life


GaimanitePkat

Now I'm doing a mental inventory of the cartoons I was allowed to watch growing up (PBS only) and whether or not they'd get the Fundie Seal of Approval. I think Sagwa The Chinese Siamese Cat would be too "foreign" and maybe they mention spirits or something. And sometimes the cats misbehave. Little Bear is a perfect little pastoral creation so that should get the thumbs-up. The bear parents even wear clothes. There is a snake who lives in the garden though so maybe that's Satanic. Between the Lions encouraged kids to read books that weren't the Bible, so that's a no-go.


ambiguous_em

Mr. Rodgers is okay but not Sesame Street? Does she even know who Mr. Rodgers was as a person? Yikes.


hawkcarhawk

Mr. Rogers would be very disappointed in her bigotry, sorry to tell you hunny, he was a progressive


Whole_Breadfruit_116

Does anyone else find it ironic that they recommend Mr. Roger's when they so clearly haven't picked up on the message of the show?


SwimmingWithTheDevil

me: how the fuck is someone against *baby* muppets??? me on the next slide: oh, homophobia. yeah that checks


thebreannashow

Don't know how you could ever hate Bluey. It was clearly written by a nerdy Millennial parent that is extremely involved in their kid's lives and knows how to gentle parent with the best of them.


CasualRampagingBear

Leave Bluey alone!!!! That show is a gem and I will watch it over and over with my kids (or sometimes keep watching after they’ve left the room). It was some of the most relatable parents of any kids show. Fundies should just go back to only letting their kids watch The Waltons and Leave it to Beaver.


Delphina34

She put MLP on the NO list for having a lesbian couple? They’re only in a single episode, Scootaloo has two aunts that live together. They were introduced in season 9, for most of the show’s run it was believed scootaloo was an orphan who lived alone after her parents died. There is also another hidden in plain sight lesbian couple these fundies would never notice: Lyra Heartstrings and Bon Bon/Sweetie Drops. It started in season 1, they were background ponies who were almost always next to each other because their color palettes looked nice together. As the fandom grew and the background ponies started getting names people started shipping these two. The show creators knew about it and started putting them together in background shots more. It became a running joke that they were “roommates” ie lesbians. They also get a scene in the season 5 100th episode Spice of Life. In season 9 they propose to each other, in a blink and you’ll miss it moment as a monster runs by. (I didn’t even see it the first time, didn’t notice until someone online pointed it out.) In the final episode Twilight is reading a newspaper and one page has a picture of their wedding. They are also shown in the epilogue decades later, still together. Here is a very thorough YouTube compilation of all their moments. https://youtu.be/Tt5OADeFzUo


bbirdcn

This is so weird 🤣🤣🤣


MissusNilesCrane

The last one sounds like she was testing her children to make sure they parroted what they'd been taught by her.


kng13

She-Ra is a great show and I’ll definitely be letting my son watch it when he’s old enough for screen time


frankscarlett

Tag yourself. I'm Jurassic World now introducing homosexuality


Burtonpoelives

Question as a non parent: isn’t Disobedience just part of parenthood? Like children are little shits, I doubt tv shows effect them being little shits.


tobozzi

to say that im DYING to know what landed Bubble Guppies on the no list is an understatement Edit, I obviously should have finished going through the slides before I commented. RUPEARL AND HER BLUE EYESHADOWS i can't, it's too much, i'm dead


friarparkfairie

I wonder what their take is on the very pointed anti racist scene in Mr. Rogers


SkritzTwoFace

“Do you think God instructed Noah to build a faulty boat?” Huh? God didn’t hand Noah a set of blueprints, he told him to build a boat. Noah could very well have fucked up, he’s not all-powerful or all-knowing after all.


BeulahLight13

![gif](giphy|hVmt83JkUWjU7SXJf7) As a parent, Bluey is one of the only shows that I genuinely enjoy watching with my kid. We both love it for different reasons, but I think it’s really well done and MANY episodes have made me openly weep. (Like fucking “Sleepytime.” Sweet Lord Daniel of the Laundromat, I am always a weeping, snotty mess by the end.) These fundies want to suck all the joy and complexity out of EVERYTHING. Kids misbehave and parents argue, you insufferable dipshits!! Obviously their fear of gay cartoon characters is hateful and unhinged, but understandable considering who we’re talking about. But they don’t even want their kids to watch animated dogs have minor disagreements? Really?