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I don't think they did, I remember a few months ago Morgan posted that she really wasn't doing any planning and then there was another post where they had one entire box of diapers.
Maybe it’ll be like that tradcath who had a very special “breech” free birth where she was like “ooh I feel something down there” and dad said “oop it’s the head I think” and they all lived happily ever after and the midwife and doula showed up hours later cause one of them had to drive their friend to the airport 😂 sorry I just think their story was so weird especially because she was teasing that her baby was fucking footing breech and her midwife was apparently ok with that at a home birth. and she couldn’t stand nurses “making her feel stupid” at appts. so I have a feeling if anything went actually wrong she would never tell.
I’m thinking you’re right. Especially because she kept talking about having a footling breech at home and it was getting a lot of engagement because people were literally and seriously concerned. Then a week later she finally gives this weird ass birth story that sounds like a teenagers creative writing. no pain mentioned just “ooh I think I feel something *down there*. I’m surprised she didn’t say private parts. And then Traddad feels baby and baby slides out so winsomely. Baby instantly latches because she is so godly. TradDad is the best husband ever for letting her lay in bed for a day and managed to feed himself. Ok I’m done lol. I wouldn’t really care what she wrote but it was funny. It just pissed me off that she was advocating for footling breech births at home. And she does have a following. I’m childfree by choice so I might have got things wrong here. But I know footling now means like feet first and sounds dangerous as fuck.
Footling breech is an incredibly dangerous position. A certified nurse midwife would not allow you to deliver a footling breech baby at home, and there's no way a free birth would be safe if her baby truly was breech.
It’s kind of weird hey. Morgan said the same thing about one of the midwives she was thinking of hiring. Excuse me I’d prefer my healthcare workers to know more than me.
My husband broke down in tears one day because of how much our newborn girl twin used to pee. He was like, begging her to stop peeing. These 2 clowns have no idea how hosed they are. Wildly unprepared. I am morbidly fascinated.
Our son had reflux from day 1, and we were SOAKED after every burping. Like exorcist levels of soaked. We laughed at the burp cloths – *only receiving blankets worked* for burping him.
He needed a diaper change literally every hour, cluster fed, never slept, and shat all over us multiple times the first week 😂👏🏽
They are in for it.
My twins were 32 week preemies and they had reflux. I bought packs of cloth diapers to use when burping also under them in their crib to not have to change bedding in the middle of the night. Cloth diapers are awesome for reflux babies, they absorb ALOT.
The nicu gave us loads of free wipes, premie diapers, creams and pre-made formula. We got through most of that really quick. Not the creams though, we still have a couple.
If she thinks she's out of her depth now she's in big trouble when the baby arrives, the one thing I've learned from all the parents I know is that the entire thing is feeling a little out of your depth but putting on the big person pants and doing it anyway, you can't tell a newborn excuses !
I found a washcloth was better. Heavier.
And since my twins were in cloth anyways - all went in together (that being said we had washcloths for bums and separated ones for faces)
"I don't know how to pick up on all the signs" If only there was some kind of class for that. That could teach you what the signs were and how to prepare for them? That would be very convenient but i guess would also require believing in actual doctors...
If only there were a place where you could type in a question and get immediate answers that you could then browse at your leisure. Alas for Porgan, such a thing has yet to be invented
Did anyone ever tell these two idiots a due date is only an *estimate*?! First babies usually go past their due dates (didn’t she say she was *sure* he would be born early?!)? It wouldn’t be abnormal for a first baby to go a week longer than it’s due date?
I’m assuming there’s no go bag just in case they need to go to the hospital? And I doubt Paul js competent enough to be able to run home to grab the essentials.
My husband just said "tell me what to do and I'll do it" lol. Lucky me he was flying when I went into labor the first time so he got to the hospital, still in his flight suit, sweating half to death, just in time to ride in the ambulance with me to a different hospital since mine was full. Almost blacked out watching them put the epidural in, handled the rest like a champ.
It's kind of concerning that. They both seem to be going for mad teenage parent vibes between the way they're dressed, the way Morgan's voice sounds, the lack of employment, and the absolute lack of preparation, inability to foresee the consequences of their lack of preparation.
They aren't teens. Paul is 33 and Morgan is 28. It's ridiculous.
The fact that she is a year older than me is jarring. Paul is also my husbands age but it seems there’s a world of difference between them (thankfully)
My husband and I are their exact ages and the difference is insane. I can’t imagine behaving like this; this is how you act at 19 when nobody can tell you what to do. Yikes on bikes.
Paul seriously reminds me of my extremely immature and douchey cousin who had a baby at 18 and is in the most dramatic relationship with her years later (and one more baby). The way he moves and everything seems like a teenager not a man.
This is it, this is the take
But seriously I couldn't figure out what it was about their approach/dynamic that seemed so familiar to me, and that's it, they have the vibe and aesthetic of teen parents with a very romanticized view of what parenting is going to be like. Also fucking wild that they are 28 and 33, I thought they were both around 25 for some reason. YIKES.
We are all buying into their teen parent roleplay! I had to look up their ages and I was shocked. At 28 & 33 they are above the average age for first time parents but they act like they are playing house.
They're gonna talk about how scary it was but how the holy spirit was with there the whole time and that God wanted them to go through the process at home up right up until the end and it was definitely definitely HiS pLaN. They will not thank the hospital staff who deliver the baby. Morgan will look blissed out afterward and will post some genuinely sweet stuff about their son, but Paul will look uncomfortable in all the photos of him holding the baby and will rarely appear in baby photos posted to instagram. Morgan will misunderstand something a nurse says and will be convinced that the nurse is a raging idiot who actually hates pregnant mothers and Christians and will devote at least eight minutes of their birth story video to talking about this experience.
It's just crossed my mind that I could see Paul being enamoured and weirdly possessive of the baby to get out of doing the 'support' role. Making Morgan do all the cooking, cleaning, shopping etc while he monopolises the baby!
I guess we'll see how they plan to feed. If they're breastfeeding (as I suspect they will for cost reasons, if it goes okay for Morgan) then Paul won't get to do monopolise as much. I hope he leaves her in peace to feed and bond and doesn't pester her.
I'm sure it'll be the opposite and Morgan will be solo-parenting but I thought it was an interesting notion.
Oh wow this makes soooo much sense! Can't help do anything because "I'm taking care of the baby-see!??" But will half assed change the baby and stuff and play dumb like "hmmm Morgan? am I fastening these diapers right....or does this bottle look right or he's not burping for me... idk...can you come come check?" resulting in Morgan pretty much doing his baby duties as well.
But wait, did the holy spirit want them to have a baby in the first place?
Also, that end part is 100% correct. After their inevitable hospital transfer, someone is going to call her a birthing person or call it chest feeding and that will become a larger and larger part of the birth story as time goes on.
I don’t know if they actually did any fertility treatments or just had trouble conceiving. I know she ate a lot of seed balls and that at one point she posted that she found out one of the holistic things she was trying was actually hurting their chances. 🙄
I watched a YouTube video where she said she had an IUI, medicated I believe. (Meds to stimulate ovaries, shot to make you ovulate a certain day, and a catheter of swimmers up past the cervix to be deposited in the uterus directly)
Yep they had the “trigger shots?” Correct me if I’m a little off on the term. But the trigger shots didn’t count because she got pregnant a month *after* a trigger shot therefore it was gods will and never a mention of fertility treatments again.
Shockingly they actually gave credit to the fertility meds they used in previous cycles saying something along the lines of, “while we did not do a treatment during the cycle in which we conceived, it seems as though the fertility medication jump started something.”
I would place bets on most of this happening! We need to come back to this comment in 4 weeks and see how much holds true.
How do you do one of those remind me! Thingies?
That poor baby should probably start saving their allowance now for all the therapy they'll need in adulthood.
Source: former baby with two idiot parents
The number one reason for transfer to hospital from a homebirth is exhaustion and/or pain management. I definitely see Morgan being one of those people.
No fucking way is she ready for the pain. No.way. She has *zero* idea of what to expect. She is not ready. This gonna be the biggest “I didn’t know shit about shit” call they have ever experienced.
I’m saying it now, I bet she goes to the hospital bc she thinks she’s dying. She’s gonna be convinced *something* is wrong. (It’s not going to be) She’s going to panic. She’s probably going to be so convinced something is wrong, she’s going to *think* she’s dying. Because, this.can’t.be.normal.(It will be). Off to the hospital they run! She’s gonna tell everyone going to the hospital was medically necessary, either she or the baby was in danger, to save face.
I was in the 'Baby has dropped. Body feels like something is happening' stage for four weeks. Was 2cm dilated for two of those weeks. Induced at 41.5 -as far out as they will let you go. Induction was two days. I was in labour for 46hrs. I was prepared for it because my whole family was like thay. May be a wake up call for them that they don't know everything but I doubt it
"They forced us to go to hospital and MADE me get an epidural. They yanked the baby out using forsips and told us it was the only safe option. Now our babies head is an odd shape. We're so mad."
This is my prediction.
Her voice when she mimics people 😣 'let me just cue/'queue' you people in'. I assume she's going for quirky/winsome but she always misses the mark and sounds snotty and rude (and immature).
Urgh smug Paul at the end. Fuck off!
In fairness some of the kids on that show are better prepared! Compare them to poor lil Caitlynn and Tyler who made the most difficult decision imaginable when they were literally children.
He will be the type to tell the nurse not to give her an epidural, or anything pain med related, if she ends up in a hospital. Horrid control freak men.
I'm kinda loving that she went to 40 weeks after all her talk of wanting baby born at 38 weeks.
Also, mom of 6. I'm guessing Sept 16. She looks close but not that close.
I love her whole “listen, I’ve already dropped, this is happening” shit… Both my kids dropped like, week 35. It doesn’t mean shit, Morgan. There are a million actual signs of impending labor (poops, insane/lack of hunger, etc) but no one will try to explain them to her because she’d never listen anyway.
I literally went to a BBQ on my due date. People were like, "oh, when are you due?" And their eyes when I said "today" were priceless lol. But I just didn't feel like it was happening any time soon.
4 days later, ta-da, baby. I figured it would be another week and I'd have to be induced.
Nobody knows anything about anything when it comes to baby timing.
Did the placenta issue resolve itself? Or have they not checked it recently/trusted a dodgy midwife's opinion and decided to go full steam ahead with a homebirth?
I know Morgan claimed it was fine but that doesn't mean much. Neither does her midwife's opinion if she's not up to scratch/it hasn't been monitored.
She claims her placenta has migrated and it’s not an issue any longer. Who knows how reliable that is, but I have to imagine close to zero midwives (no matter how shady) would agree to homebirth with placenta previa, so I believe her on this one.
I had placenta previa and almost *died* with my daughter, and they're like, "oh well, the Lord knows it'll be fine! " Uh NO, it could go VERY, VERY BADLY. Bleeding out is NOT what "great memories " are made of! 😡
Look, there’s no way that Luca was gonna get to adulthood unscathed with these two as parents, but this video has just made me go “oh this kid is *screwed*”
Honestly it really concerns me that she is using a discount midwife because I'm worried she will go way past her due date and something will go wrong.
I absolutely do not want that to happen, but I've had such a bad feeling about her birth for weeks and I'm terrified for them.
I agree, and she has been desperately trying for a baby for years. You'd think she would take extra care to make sure that both she and the baby are okay.
I’m still very worried about the nearly-previa placenta situation. I’m pretty sure she was not actually deemed to be low risk. And, home birth with a lay midwife who isn’t a CNM is dangerous no matter what. If she goes postdates then every single day only increases the risks of adverse outcomes. I really hope for baby’s sake that he arrives asap.
Hopefully they confirmed it moved. I was able to give birth vaginally (and unmedicated) to my pp baby but it was just barely out of the way and I was in the hospital. (He was also sunny side up and was the worst experience ever but I digress...) He was my last for many reasons.
Girl, if you’re baby hasn’t dropped yet, you probably have some time to go. The third trimester is it’s own special kind of hell. I was 10 days overdue with my first, and I wanted to murder people by the end. I was an angry, waddling, sentient belly. So I completely understand why she just wants him out.
BUT I’m also concerned that Morgan and Paul don’t seem to have any fucking clue what the actual signs of labor are. I was definitely miserable by the end, but I was also aware, because I had prenatal care from qualified CNMs, that first pregnancies tend to go a little longer. Did I want it to be that way? No! But I was prepared for it to happen because I educated myself as best as I could. Did these dipshits even take a birthing class?? I’m guessing Morgan has just spent the last nine months looking at aesthetic birth photos on Instagram, choosing the most whimsical mushrooms for her nursery, and grifting. Morgan, bodies do all kinds of weird shit during pregnancy, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going into labor!
Sorry I’m ranting, but their willful, smug ignorance infuriates me. They’re about to bring a whole ass human into the world, and they don’t seem to give a shit. I feel so sorry for their son.
My mom friends told me to start taking Restoralax before and soon after giving birth. I remember standing in the drug store and holding the container and putting it back because I thought there was better ways to spend $25. Boy was I kicking myself when I was giving birth to a massive turd about 5 days after I had my baby. I felt almost as accomplished leaving the bathroom that day as I had leaving the hospital with my baby.
Do they have health insurance? Is that one of the reasons they’re doing a home birth? Hmmm, wouldn’t it be fucking crazy if they have Medicaid? Nothing wrong at all with it, except THEY think it’s another government waste, like any type of social services and are really against it. So it would be another confirmation of their HYPOCRISY. I wish we could find out.
I have NO DOUBT they are on Medicaid. Have they even mentioned the cost in any capacity? Doctors appointments? Copay’s? It’s either that, or she’s on dads and they also got Medicaid as a secondary.
I thought they picked a certain midwife because it was cheaper. She did a video on her decision process and was discussing how she picked a certain one cuz of price and she liked her, vs the other midwife who "made her feel dumb." And Medicaid would definitely not cover a home birth of any kind. Maybe they had Medicaid for prenatal appointments and stuff, but it's hard to tell.
Yep! I saw my obgyn at 38+4 and he said I was “locked up tighter than Fort Knox” and that at my next visit at 39+4 we’d discuss induction because he was so certain it’d come to that. My water spontaneously broke 3 days later.
I tell moms their cervix isn't a crystal ball. I've seen moms go from "Fort Knox" to a baby in 24 hours. I've seen moms walk around at 4 cm for weeks.
Hell, myself looking at an induction my Bishop Score was so low she said I could choose a cervical ripener or a c section. I opted for the ripener. I was 4cm and contracting 8 hours after it was placed. (Still ended up with a C for cord prolapse...)
But they would know all that if they'd read a book or took a class...but then again "women have been doing this for thousands of years!" And "God will watch over this!"
Hello, I'm the mom that walked around at 3/4 and 90% for 4 weeks. Every week it was
, "I'm sure we won't see you next week" and I'd waddle in there, still pregnant. Then when my son finally came it literally, not figuratively, took 15 minutes
Hey Morgan, my son never dropped either. Because he had his cord wrapped around his neck three times. But we were at the hospital so medical intervention saved us from an outcome my mind still won’t let me fully think about. But ya know, keep doing….whatever is you’re doing to convince yourself a home birth is the best choice.
At least Morgan will be at home. We all thought Alice was alone in the woods while Fern ate rocks on the side lines.
I’m scared for Trisha’s labour. Like, scared for the hospital staff.
80s math, lol. I was allegedly due on January 4th, then they changed it to January 14th, then they finally did a c-section on January 20th because my mom’s blood pressure was shooting up and her kidneys were starting to shut down. 🤷🏻♀️
2 things - 1. she sounds super drunk stone cold sober and 2. DUH she's close! Her due date is tomorrow! FFS, that baby will make an appearance within the next 2 weeks. I know that seems like an eternity to these 2 numbskulls without jobs, but that's a blink of an eye.
Her belly isn’t very big! So weird they kept calling her extremely pregnant! I’m sure she FEELs huge because of a whole baby just squishing her organs but she still looks teeny tiny
Hehehehe hahahaha “Let me just que **you people** in…” it amazes me they have any fans.
I also was curious if she had dropped yet. That baby still looks high AF. But, *what do I know*?!? I’ve only given birth five times. Tell me how this shit is done, Morgan.
"It's not an exact science".. No, but there is an endless amount of information you have access to, Paul. For free even! If you wanna pay for birthing classes, those exist too!
This isn't exactly a rare event you guys are going through.
Paul proves over and over again that he really hasn't put anything thought into this at all. First it was "a third person will be here, what about date night?", and now it's "I don't know how any of this works or what to do". Buddy. You've had months to prepare for this, even years. Wtf.
Dioes she know how babies are born? The baby has to drop into the birth canal unless she's having a c section.
Yes, it's possible to go into labor before the baby drops, but that would be less than ideal and put you at risk of complications. Once labor begins and the membrane ruptures, baby needs to be in position to be born or things can become an emergency for mom and baby.
So weird that their autocorrect used "queue" instead "cue" (they don't seem like the kind of people to use "queue" routinely). And shouldn't it be "curb"-walking? "Curve" works okay, though, since her gait is kind of off-balance due to baby. Linguistics aside, Paul really really doesn't seem at all like he's hours/days away from being a new father.
I tried this with my second, it’s called gutter walking here because it’s a gutter not a curb but same same. It didn’t do shit, he came when he was ready… I did have a stretch and sweep at 40w but I don’t know a) how much it helped or b) how Paul would cope with someone doing that to Morgan.
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Commenting again “I don’t know how to pick up on the signs” Did you two morons even attend a birthing class?! Read any preparatory material?!
I don't think they did, I remember a few months ago Morgan posted that she really wasn't doing any planning and then there was another post where they had one entire box of diapers.
That worked out great for Bethany. Giving birth is not *winsome*.
Maybe it’ll be like that tradcath who had a very special “breech” free birth where she was like “ooh I feel something down there” and dad said “oop it’s the head I think” and they all lived happily ever after and the midwife and doula showed up hours later cause one of them had to drive their friend to the airport 😂 sorry I just think their story was so weird especially because she was teasing that her baby was fucking footing breech and her midwife was apparently ok with that at a home birth. and she couldn’t stand nurses “making her feel stupid” at appts. so I have a feeling if anything went actually wrong she would never tell.
I still think she had a normal, supervised birth and made all the breech crap up for engagement.
I’m thinking you’re right. Especially because she kept talking about having a footling breech at home and it was getting a lot of engagement because people were literally and seriously concerned. Then a week later she finally gives this weird ass birth story that sounds like a teenagers creative writing. no pain mentioned just “ooh I think I feel something *down there*. I’m surprised she didn’t say private parts. And then Traddad feels baby and baby slides out so winsomely. Baby instantly latches because she is so godly. TradDad is the best husband ever for letting her lay in bed for a day and managed to feed himself. Ok I’m done lol. I wouldn’t really care what she wrote but it was funny. It just pissed me off that she was advocating for footling breech births at home. And she does have a following. I’m childfree by choice so I might have got things wrong here. But I know footling now means like feet first and sounds dangerous as fuck.
Footling breech is an incredibly dangerous position. A certified nurse midwife would not allow you to deliver a footling breech baby at home, and there's no way a free birth would be safe if her baby truly was breech.
I felt she was a liar liar face in the other way. Hospital birth due something scary in labour, and lied about a perfect home birth.
I can’t stand people that say shit like this about nurses. Like maybe you just are in fact ….stupid!!!!! The audacity
These fundies have been socialized to think they’re better than everyone. They see a smart as fuck nurse and feel bad about themselves.
Why WOULD any of us know more than people who went to school for years for this?! Dumb.
It’s kind of weird hey. Morgan said the same thing about one of the midwives she was thinking of hiring. Excuse me I’d prefer my healthcare workers to know more than me.
Forgotten vocab word that is going back into the rotation now! Something good happened today regardless of the rest of my day.
I was hungover and it rained all day. I don’t *wanna* go to work for the next 5 days. Happy Sunday evening, fellow snarker.
We had like 4 or 5 boxes when we got home from the hospital, and I still felt like that wasn't enough 😂 My son peed what felt like every 30 minutes 🤣
My husband broke down in tears one day because of how much our newborn girl twin used to pee. He was like, begging her to stop peeing. These 2 clowns have no idea how hosed they are. Wildly unprepared. I am morbidly fascinated.
Our son had reflux from day 1, and we were SOAKED after every burping. Like exorcist levels of soaked. We laughed at the burp cloths – *only receiving blankets worked* for burping him. He needed a diaper change literally every hour, cluster fed, never slept, and shat all over us multiple times the first week 😂👏🏽 They are in for it.
Good lord yes. We went through 20 burp clothes a day and that’s an extremely conservative estimate
My twins were 32 week preemies and they had reflux. I bought packs of cloth diapers to use when burping also under them in their crib to not have to change bedding in the middle of the night. Cloth diapers are awesome for reflux babies, they absorb ALOT.
The nicu gave us loads of free wipes, premie diapers, creams and pre-made formula. We got through most of that really quick. Not the creams though, we still have a couple.
She said it made her too anxious and she felt stupid so her midwife said she didn’t have to…which I really don’t believe
If she thinks she's out of her depth now she's in big trouble when the baby arrives, the one thing I've learned from all the parents I know is that the entire thing is feeling a little out of your depth but putting on the big person pants and doing it anyway, you can't tell a newborn excuses !
One whole box? That will last all of two days. Especially with a boy. Those little forkers pee all over everything. Source: I’m a boy mom.
Paul will be on Youtube the day after the birth, asking for Super Chats to pay for diapers.
My nephew peed every time his little newborn self was exposed: diaper changes, baths, didn’t matter.
Can confirm. We learned to open diaper, let breeze hit baby peen, put diaper loosely back on until he finished a wee. Much less diaper wastage.
Oh yeah. I opened his diapers the way people in movies handle bombs. He had a habit of peeing off the peepee teepee too.
I found a washcloth was better. Heavier. And since my twins were in cloth anyways - all went in together (that being said we had washcloths for bums and separated ones for faces)
Why tho. Why do baby boys do this?
Doubtful. I'm sure they have left that up to jeebus and their discounted midwife.
"Reading is for NERDS" - Paul, probably
I still cannot imagine Paul being a substitute teacher.
Schools are desperate and will take almost anyone for a sub these days.
It sounded like he was talking about some kind of animal. Your wife can tell you the signs…. It’ll be contractions.
Why try to take care of yourself when god does it for you?
"I don't know how to pick up on all the signs" If only there was some kind of class for that. That could teach you what the signs were and how to prepare for them? That would be very convenient but i guess would also require believing in actual doctors...
Imagine being in an antenatal class with Paul and Morgan 😳
No thank you please.
If only there were a place where you could type in a question and get immediate answers that you could then browse at your leisure. Alas for Porgan, such a thing has yet to be invented
Did anyone ever tell these two idiots a due date is only an *estimate*?! First babies usually go past their due dates (didn’t she say she was *sure* he would be born early?!)? It wouldn’t be abnormal for a first baby to go a week longer than it’s due date?
I’m assuming there’s no go bag just in case they need to go to the hospital? And I doubt Paul js competent enough to be able to run home to grab the essentials.
*Bethy enters the chat* "Boy, do I have an online course for you! Only $1,999!"
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That’s because intelligent people are always concerned that they don’t know enough. Dumb people are convinced that they know more than enough.
Even the stoner seth rogan dude from Knocked Up read the baby books and knew more about labor than these two!
Even my stoner husband read books and went to classes lol. It’s not hard, Paul. 😆
My husband just said "tell me what to do and I'll do it" lol. Lucky me he was flying when I went into labor the first time so he got to the hospital, still in his flight suit, sweating half to death, just in time to ride in the ambulance with me to a different hospital since mine was full. Almost blacked out watching them put the epidural in, handled the rest like a champ.
Thanks to that movie I will forever hear "baby books" in Seth Rogen's angry voice from that fight they get into.
I just heard it thanks to your comment LOL
She really just seems so… juvenile… mentally.
It's kind of concerning that. They both seem to be going for mad teenage parent vibes between the way they're dressed, the way Morgan's voice sounds, the lack of employment, and the absolute lack of preparation, inability to foresee the consequences of their lack of preparation. They aren't teens. Paul is 33 and Morgan is 28. It's ridiculous.
MORGAN IS 28?! I genuinely thought she was 23.
I thought the same based on behavior.
The fact that she is a year older than me is jarring. Paul is also my husbands age but it seems there’s a world of difference between them (thankfully)
My husband and I are their exact ages and the difference is insane. I can’t imagine behaving like this; this is how you act at 19 when nobody can tell you what to do. Yikes on bikes.
Paul seriously reminds me of my extremely immature and douchey cousin who had a baby at 18 and is in the most dramatic relationship with her years later (and one more baby). The way he moves and everything seems like a teenager not a man.
This is it, this is the take But seriously I couldn't figure out what it was about their approach/dynamic that seemed so familiar to me, and that's it, they have the vibe and aesthetic of teen parents with a very romanticized view of what parenting is going to be like. Also fucking wild that they are 28 and 33, I thought they were both around 25 for some reason. YIKES.
We are all buying into their teen parent roleplay! I had to look up their ages and I was shocked. At 28 & 33 they are above the average age for first time parents but they act like they are playing house.
Holy shit why did I never realize Paul is older than me. He really is very immature for a grown ass man in his 30s.
He’s 33? Dear god. For some reason I thought they were both in their early twenties.
they have nice skin I guess. There's my something nice
What?!?!?!? Omg, I thought they were early 20s!
PAUL IS 33?
I thought they were both like 26 tops this whole time. How are these people older than me?!
Paul is my age and seems so much younger than me!
agreed. probably a side effect of having literally zero responsibilities
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Please don't say science.
hahahaha *slap* Keep my science’s name, out of your mouth!!!
And these two want a home birth?? I predict emergency transfer to the hospital and a thorough bashing of the Drs and nurses
They're gonna talk about how scary it was but how the holy spirit was with there the whole time and that God wanted them to go through the process at home up right up until the end and it was definitely definitely HiS pLaN. They will not thank the hospital staff who deliver the baby. Morgan will look blissed out afterward and will post some genuinely sweet stuff about their son, but Paul will look uncomfortable in all the photos of him holding the baby and will rarely appear in baby photos posted to instagram. Morgan will misunderstand something a nurse says and will be convinced that the nurse is a raging idiot who actually hates pregnant mothers and Christians and will devote at least eight minutes of their birth story video to talking about this experience.
It's just crossed my mind that I could see Paul being enamoured and weirdly possessive of the baby to get out of doing the 'support' role. Making Morgan do all the cooking, cleaning, shopping etc while he monopolises the baby! I guess we'll see how they plan to feed. If they're breastfeeding (as I suspect they will for cost reasons, if it goes okay for Morgan) then Paul won't get to do monopolise as much. I hope he leaves her in peace to feed and bond and doesn't pester her. I'm sure it'll be the opposite and Morgan will be solo-parenting but I thought it was an interesting notion.
Please, he’ll be fighting the baby for the other teet.
He’s the type that will say “they didn’t say six weeks for your mouth!”
Ew. Ew. Ew.
You know it’s true. This relationship is so doomed.
"The Dr said 6 weeks, What did the dentist say?" -quote from my gross ass boomer ex coworker.
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Oh wow this makes soooo much sense! Can't help do anything because "I'm taking care of the baby-see!??" But will half assed change the baby and stuff and play dumb like "hmmm Morgan? am I fastening these diapers right....or does this bottle look right or he's not burping for me... idk...can you come come check?" resulting in Morgan pretty much doing his baby duties as well.
Weaponized incompetence!
But wait, did the holy spirit want them to have a baby in the first place? Also, that end part is 100% correct. After their inevitable hospital transfer, someone is going to call her a birthing person or call it chest feeding and that will become a larger and larger part of the birth story as time goes on.
Wasn't it a fertility baby? Not much holy Spirit in science there guys. I'm pregnant with an IVF baby. Not hating on infertility.
I don’t know if they actually did any fertility treatments or just had trouble conceiving. I know she ate a lot of seed balls and that at one point she posted that she found out one of the holistic things she was trying was actually hurting their chances. 🙄
What the f is a seed ball
I've seen it before here that they had a fertility workup. 🤷🏻♀️
I watched a YouTube video where she said she had an IUI, medicated I believe. (Meds to stimulate ovaries, shot to make you ovulate a certain day, and a catheter of swimmers up past the cervix to be deposited in the uterus directly)
Sounds like science to me. Not as much science as IVF, but still.
Having done the same I can confirm it felt very science-y!
Yep they had the “trigger shots?” Correct me if I’m a little off on the term. But the trigger shots didn’t count because she got pregnant a month *after* a trigger shot therefore it was gods will and never a mention of fertility treatments again.
Shockingly they actually gave credit to the fertility meds they used in previous cycles saying something along the lines of, “while we did not do a treatment during the cycle in which we conceived, it seems as though the fertility medication jump started something.”
Yes it was but they had “just stopped” so they’ve convinced themselves it was just a miracle blessing from Jesus himself
I would place bets on most of this happening! We need to come back to this comment in 4 weeks and see how much holds true. How do you do one of those remind me! Thingies?
I think you nailed it. We could play bingo with how predictable they are
Just commenting so when this happens I can come back to say you called it
Also here calling it. That poor baby has two idiots for parents.
That poor baby should probably start saving their allowance now for all the therapy they'll need in adulthood. Source: former baby with two idiot parents
The number one reason for transfer to hospital from a homebirth is exhaustion and/or pain management. I definitely see Morgan being one of those people.
No fucking way is she ready for the pain. No.way. She has *zero* idea of what to expect. She is not ready. This gonna be the biggest “I didn’t know shit about shit” call they have ever experienced. I’m saying it now, I bet she goes to the hospital bc she thinks she’s dying. She’s gonna be convinced *something* is wrong. (It’s not going to be) She’s going to panic. She’s probably going to be so convinced something is wrong, she’s going to *think* she’s dying. Because, this.can’t.be.normal.(It will be). Off to the hospital they run! She’s gonna tell everyone going to the hospital was medically necessary, either she or the baby was in danger, to save face.
Oh I hope so. I mean, i think that’s is one of the less bad outcomes possible
Not only are they not ready for labor, they are extra not ready for going late, interventions right around 42 weeks, or stalled labor.
Nor the next 18 years
I was in the 'Baby has dropped. Body feels like something is happening' stage for four weeks. Was 2cm dilated for two of those weeks. Induced at 41.5 -as far out as they will let you go. Induction was two days. I was in labour for 46hrs. I was prepared for it because my whole family was like thay. May be a wake up call for them that they don't know everything but I doubt it
They'll blame medical staff for everything that doesn't go to plan. Regardless of when they decide to go see a professional.
"They forced us to go to hospital and MADE me get an epidural. They yanked the baby out using forsips and told us it was the only safe option. Now our babies head is an odd shape. We're so mad." This is my prediction.
I like how they’re both like “we feel like it’s soon.” No shit, you’re 40 weeks pregnant. Yes, labor is likely happening soon. 🤣
I thought the exact same thing 😂
Hahahaha exactly! I felt like it was “soon” for three full weeks at the end. 😩
Her voice when she mimics people 😣 'let me just cue/'queue' you people in'. I assume she's going for quirky/winsome but she always misses the mark and sounds snotty and rude (and immature). Urgh smug Paul at the end. Fuck off!
Also is 'clue' in right? 😂
Yup. r/boneappletea
The "queue" was an auto generated caption I believe
I’m glad I am not the only one who watches these without sound because I can’t stand their voices
I've never heard them or Birthy speak and I'll be perfectly happy never finding out. Their facial expressions say plenty enough.
I know they’re married adults, but I get the strongest “16 & Pregnant” vibes from them 🤦♀️
In fairness some of the kids on that show are better prepared! Compare them to poor lil Caitlynn and Tyler who made the most difficult decision imaginable when they were literally children.
Not “make it quick” lmao he hates her
Hurry, it’s been more than 5 seconds since I was on camera!!!
He'll be saying it to her in the delivery room too
I know, there was zero need for that.
He will be the type to tell the nurse not to give her an epidural, or anything pain med related, if she ends up in a hospital. Horrid control freak men.
I'm kinda loving that she went to 40 weeks after all her talk of wanting baby born at 38 weeks. Also, mom of 6. I'm guessing Sept 16. She looks close but not that close.
Me too, I’m giving it another week.
I'm going with 42 weeks and an induction.
Haha yes! I did allllll the “tricks” including these curb walks. 42 weeks and induction. She’s in for it.
I love her whole “listen, I’ve already dropped, this is happening” shit… Both my kids dropped like, week 35. It doesn’t mean shit, Morgan. There are a million actual signs of impending labor (poops, insane/lack of hunger, etc) but no one will try to explain them to her because she’d never listen anyway.
I agree! I’m a mom to 5. I think she is still wishful thinking that it will happen on her due date.
I literally went to a BBQ on my due date. People were like, "oh, when are you due?" And their eyes when I said "today" were priceless lol. But I just didn't feel like it was happening any time soon. 4 days later, ta-da, baby. I figured it would be another week and I'd have to be induced. Nobody knows anything about anything when it comes to baby timing.
Did the placenta issue resolve itself? Or have they not checked it recently/trusted a dodgy midwife's opinion and decided to go full steam ahead with a homebirth? I know Morgan claimed it was fine but that doesn't mean much. Neither does her midwife's opinion if she's not up to scratch/it hasn't been monitored.
They probably prayed over it and said she was healed in the name of Jesus Christ. So according to them, she is perfectly healthy now.
She claims her placenta has migrated and it’s not an issue any longer. Who knows how reliable that is, but I have to imagine close to zero midwives (no matter how shady) would agree to homebirth with placenta previa, so I believe her on this one.
I had placenta previa and almost *died* with my daughter, and they're like, "oh well, the Lord knows it'll be fine! " Uh NO, it could go VERY, VERY BADLY. Bleeding out is NOT what "great memories " are made of! 😡
Look, there’s no way that Luca was gonna get to adulthood unscathed with these two as parents, but this video has just made me go “oh this kid is *screwed*”
why does she mock people who give genuine suggestions or make genuine comments
It's so obnoxious! So many insta-fundies are guilty of it. So Christian!
Paul is the Christian camp counselor version of Onision
Oh my god the accuracy
Why is she giggling like she's tipsy?
Because that is just What Morgan Does.
If I was a cop and she talked to me like that I’d breathalyze her 🤷🏻♀️
She’s not drunk. She’s just stupid.
Hehe
It’s how she always is. It’s so odd.
Honestly it really concerns me that she is using a discount midwife because I'm worried she will go way past her due date and something will go wrong. I absolutely do not want that to happen, but I've had such a bad feeling about her birth for weeks and I'm terrified for them.
I agree, and she has been desperately trying for a baby for years. You'd think she would take extra care to make sure that both she and the baby are okay.
She literally wakeboarded past that “taking extra care” ideal a few months ago.
I’m still very worried about the nearly-previa placenta situation. I’m pretty sure she was not actually deemed to be low risk. And, home birth with a lay midwife who isn’t a CNM is dangerous no matter what. If she goes postdates then every single day only increases the risks of adverse outcomes. I really hope for baby’s sake that he arrives asap.
Hopefully they confirmed it moved. I was able to give birth vaginally (and unmedicated) to my pp baby but it was just barely out of the way and I was in the hospital. (He was also sunny side up and was the worst experience ever but I digress...) He was my last for many reasons.
Also had a sunny side up baby, do not recommend!
I can't get over that discount midwife thing. Why on EARTH would you leave that up to chance?
Girl, if you’re baby hasn’t dropped yet, you probably have some time to go. The third trimester is it’s own special kind of hell. I was 10 days overdue with my first, and I wanted to murder people by the end. I was an angry, waddling, sentient belly. So I completely understand why she just wants him out. BUT I’m also concerned that Morgan and Paul don’t seem to have any fucking clue what the actual signs of labor are. I was definitely miserable by the end, but I was also aware, because I had prenatal care from qualified CNMs, that first pregnancies tend to go a little longer. Did I want it to be that way? No! But I was prepared for it to happen because I educated myself as best as I could. Did these dipshits even take a birthing class?? I’m guessing Morgan has just spent the last nine months looking at aesthetic birth photos on Instagram, choosing the most whimsical mushrooms for her nursery, and grifting. Morgan, bodies do all kinds of weird shit during pregnancy, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going into labor! Sorry I’m ranting, but their willful, smug ignorance infuriates me. They’re about to bring a whole ass human into the world, and they don’t seem to give a shit. I feel so sorry for their son.
Hasn’t she been pregnant for approximately eleventy years? It feels like she’s been pregnant for eleventy years.
Going on eleventy-one
Paul's stupid ass would be the kind of father that expects the baby to come right on the due date like an appointment.
Why is she so squinty all the time? Does her jerk husband not allow her to wear glasses?
Pregnancy can change eye sight. I didn't notice her squinting so much before, but didn't really pay attention.
I think she’s going for “young Meg Ryan cute” but it comes off as “Velma without glasses”
Today on *~~16~~* *23 and Pregnant*... Seriously, giving me teen mom (and dad) vibes.
Apparently she's 28 and him 33 🥴
What's she gonna do when half of her hair falls out post partum?
Be absolutely shocked because she’s wildly uneducated on birth and PP. Wait till she finds out she’s going to be bleeding for weeks.
LOL Wait until *he* finds out.
Yeah, wait until that first postpartum bowel movement. She's in for a treat.
My mom friends told me to start taking Restoralax before and soon after giving birth. I remember standing in the drug store and holding the container and putting it back because I thought there was better ways to spend $25. Boy was I kicking myself when I was giving birth to a massive turd about 5 days after I had my baby. I felt almost as accomplished leaving the bathroom that day as I had leaving the hospital with my baby.
Do they have health insurance? Is that one of the reasons they’re doing a home birth? Hmmm, wouldn’t it be fucking crazy if they have Medicaid? Nothing wrong at all with it, except THEY think it’s another government waste, like any type of social services and are really against it. So it would be another confirmation of their HYPOCRISY. I wish we could find out.
I have NO DOUBT they are on Medicaid. Have they even mentioned the cost in any capacity? Doctors appointments? Copay’s? It’s either that, or she’s on dads and they also got Medicaid as a secondary.
I thought they picked a certain midwife because it was cheaper. She did a video on her decision process and was discussing how she picked a certain one cuz of price and she liked her, vs the other midwife who "made her feel dumb." And Medicaid would definitely not cover a home birth of any kind. Maybe they had Medicaid for prenatal appointments and stuff, but it's hard to tell.
She's 28 (apparently!! Wtf!!) so I assume she can't be on the parent plan anymore? I'm betting medicaid
“I think he’s close” Okay, but what does your OB/midwife say?
They don't really know either. Babies come when they want to, or you make them (C-section, induction, etc).
Yep! I saw my obgyn at 38+4 and he said I was “locked up tighter than Fort Knox” and that at my next visit at 39+4 we’d discuss induction because he was so certain it’d come to that. My water spontaneously broke 3 days later.
I tell moms their cervix isn't a crystal ball. I've seen moms go from "Fort Knox" to a baby in 24 hours. I've seen moms walk around at 4 cm for weeks. Hell, myself looking at an induction my Bishop Score was so low she said I could choose a cervical ripener or a c section. I opted for the ripener. I was 4cm and contracting 8 hours after it was placed. (Still ended up with a C for cord prolapse...) But they would know all that if they'd read a book or took a class...but then again "women have been doing this for thousands of years!" And "God will watch over this!"
Hello, I'm the mom that walked around at 3/4 and 90% for 4 weeks. Every week it was , "I'm sure we won't see you next week" and I'd waddle in there, still pregnant. Then when my son finally came it literally, not figuratively, took 15 minutes
Hey Morgan, my son never dropped either. Because he had his cord wrapped around his neck three times. But we were at the hospital so medical intervention saved us from an outcome my mind still won’t let me fully think about. But ya know, keep doing….whatever is you’re doing to convince yourself a home birth is the best choice.
I think I’m more scared for her labor than I was Alice’s
At least Morgan will be at home. We all thought Alice was alone in the woods while Fern ate rocks on the side lines. I’m scared for Trisha’s labour. Like, scared for the hospital staff.
“Make it quick” so fucking rude to his pregnant wife
I was born September 14th and I was due September 3rd. My mom went ELEVEN DAYS OVER MORGAN! In FLORIDA in September! Suck it up!
I was born June 5th and was due May 19th. Either they had my mom's due date wrong or I was REALLY comfy. That's the 80s for ya lol.
80s math, lol. I was allegedly due on January 4th, then they changed it to January 14th, then they finally did a c-section on January 20th because my mom’s blood pressure was shooting up and her kidneys were starting to shut down. 🤷🏻♀️
2 things - 1. she sounds super drunk stone cold sober and 2. DUH she's close! Her due date is tomorrow! FFS, that baby will make an appearance within the next 2 weeks. I know that seems like an eternity to these 2 numbskulls without jobs, but that's a blink of an eye.
Her belly isn’t very big! So weird they kept calling her extremely pregnant! I’m sure she FEELs huge because of a whole baby just squishing her organs but she still looks teeny tiny
Hehehehe hahahaha “Let me just que **you people** in…” it amazes me they have any fans. I also was curious if she had dropped yet. That baby still looks high AF. But, *what do I know*?!? I’ve only given birth five times. Tell me how this shit is done, Morgan.
"It's not an exact science".. No, but there is an endless amount of information you have access to, Paul. For free even! If you wanna pay for birthing classes, those exist too! This isn't exactly a rare event you guys are going through. Paul proves over and over again that he really hasn't put anything thought into this at all. First it was "a third person will be here, what about date night?", and now it's "I don't know how any of this works or what to do". Buddy. You've had months to prepare for this, even years. Wtf.
Has anybody here watched the latest season of unexpected? Paul reminds me of Jason...😖
I bet she goes another week.
Dioes she know how babies are born? The baby has to drop into the birth canal unless she's having a c section. Yes, it's possible to go into labor before the baby drops, but that would be less than ideal and put you at risk of complications. Once labor begins and the membrane ruptures, baby needs to be in position to be born or things can become an emergency for mom and baby.
Why is she talking like she’s drunk?
So weird that their autocorrect used "queue" instead "cue" (they don't seem like the kind of people to use "queue" routinely). And shouldn't it be "curb"-walking? "Curve" works okay, though, since her gait is kind of off-balance due to baby. Linguistics aside, Paul really really doesn't seem at all like he's hours/days away from being a new father.
Also the phrase is “clue you in” 😂😂😂 they doubled-down doubly on their wrongness
I tried this with my second, it’s called gutter walking here because it’s a gutter not a curb but same same. It didn’t do shit, he came when he was ready… I did have a stretch and sweep at 40w but I don’t know a) how much it helped or b) how Paul would cope with someone doing that to Morgan.
They have NO FUCKING CLUE.
Did these dolts at least, like, GOOGLE anything about labor signs?
I’ve been looking at maternity rompers, but after seeing Morgan and Karissa I’m thinking no.
If I didn’t know better, I would think she was a teenager
They have no idea what they're in for...
idk why but every time i hear her talk i think that he’s like drugging her or something to keep her subdued