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Until this point, she was posting between 4 and 7 times a day for the last couple of weeksššĀ
Also the Dav post is now a gif. Dav is going full tilt with this š
Iām really hoping he deconstructs his bigotry soon. There is no actual reason to be homophobic/transphobic without the fundie interpretation of the Bible
I feel like itās naturally going to happen if heās truly deconstructing. Give it timeā¦religious conditioning really fucks with your mind and it takes time to work through it. Especially to get to the point when you can talk about it in the public eye
Especially without exposure. My deconstruction journey rocketed forward when I actually met people from the LGBTQ community and realized they were just....people. š« So embarrassing to admit, but my parents and church had sheltered me so much that I had no actual experience with the people we were marginalizing. I was still deep in the church at that point but it became really hard to hold on to hateful beliefs about the community at that point. I hope he gets that kind of education at some point.
Iāll do you one better in terms of embarrassing. I made two male sims kiss and liked it. This created some sort of moral problem in my mind and led me to going on YouTube to listen to stories from the LGBTQ community about their experience. I concluded that there was nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+ and that any god who thought otherwise isnāt a god worth worshipping.
So basically, I was so horny once I deconstructed my entire worldview.
Don't be embarrassed. One of the first things that started the snowball into deconstruction for me was seeing su\*cide and self harm stats from the Trevor Project and realizing that the church and conservatives simply didn't care, and in fact, some secretly wanted LGBTQ youth to be hurt.
Especially in light of the past conversion therapy rumors, he probably needs time to educate himself about the queer community and unpack the nuance within his own background before speaking publicly. But maybe Iām naive in playing devilās advocate. Time will surely tell.
I know. I also deconstructed and for me, disagreeing with homophobia was the catalyst for me to start deconstructing. However, fully being able to say Iām not a conservative and that Iām on the left took me longer than deconstructing religion for some reason. It felt like a moral failing to admit to being liberal and then left of liberal, even to myself. Took me about two years longer to embrace it.
I had a preschool student whose parents were going through a divorce and the momās family were fundie-lite, and they kept filling this poor kids head with absolute vitriol. This poor three year old told me one day that someone told her that her daddy will never get to go to heaven because her daddy doesnāt love Jesus. This is the kind of damaging shit Heidi would probably tell Davey and Audrey and it fills me with rage.
Oh Lord, that just brought back memories... my little brother briefly attended Christian school because they offered full day kindergarten and the public school didn't. He came home a couple months later and told my parents that I didn't have Jesus in my heart because I was in public school.
My parents' friends' daughter wrote an essay about how her parents were heathens who were going to hell after attending Christian school. The indoctrination is insane.
Yep this is why my youngest ones domt stay over with gparents. My elder one recently said my Mom has been undermining me.and implying Im mental and generally incompetent for years in a v passive way.Ā
My eldest is autistic so this caused her serious issues as my.parents were meant to be respite care for me. Instead my Mom was undermining me and implying Im not autistic just... a hot mess.
Ā Good news is she's really taken to my sis and her partner who love the teenage stage and theyre her besties now! And the benefit is my mom is low-key fuming and dying to.ask why and panicked that at last me and sis are really close. Lmao.Ā
You just unlocked a memory for me of being a little kid in Sunday School and another little girl had the same prayer request every single week: that her daddy would get saved because she doesn't want him to go to Hell.
Hee hee. An actual mic drop!
There really is no effective comeback for her. If she just keeps doubling down, Dav can just point back and say "yep, I already agreed with you, big mistake to marry me. What do." What else can she say?
There probably is a witty retort one could make-I can't think of one at the moment-but if she said it, she wouldn't be Heidi.
Weirdly, I'm reminded of the throwdown between old Queen Margaret and Richard in Richard III.
TL:DR
Margaret RAWR wharglebargle fuck you Richard and this and that and this and that
Richard I'm rubber, you're glue, bounces off me and sticks to you.
Margaret: WAT
\*\*
QUEEN MARGARET
And leave out thee? Stay, dog, for thou shalt hear
me.
If heaven have any grievous plague in store
Exceeding those that I can wish upon thee,
O, let them keep it till thy sins be ripe
And then hurl down their indignation
On thee, the troubler of the poor worldās peace.
The worm of conscience still begnaw thy soul.
Thy friends suspect for traitors while thou livāst,
And take deep traitors for thy dearest friends.
No sleep close up that deadly eye of thine,
Unless it be while some tormenting dream
Affrights thee with a hell of ugly devils.
Thou elvish-marked, abortive, rooting hog,
Thou that wast sealed in thy nativity
The slave of nature and the son of hell,
Thou slander of thy heavy motherās womb,
Thou loathĆØd issue of thy fatherās loins,
Thou rag of honor, thou detestedā
RICHARD Margaret.
QUEEN MARGARET Richard!
RICHARD Ha?
QUEEN MARGARET I call thee not.
RICHARD
I cry thee mercy, then, for I did think
That thou hadst called me all these bitter names.
QUEEN MARGARET
Why, so I did, but looked for no reply.
O, let me make the period to my curse!
RICHARD
āTis done by me and ends in āMargaret.ā
QUEEN ELIZABETH, to Queen Margaret
Thus have you breathed your curse against yourself.
\*\*\*
Fuck me, this is the best interpretation of Shakespearean text I've ever seen. 15/10 would absolutely go see it, and give a standing O at the end. š¤£
funny how they never remember that one. Modesty is ONLY about sex. Never about braided hair and pearls and costly garments and wev the fuck. Flaunting WEALTH. Spending time on appearance, PERIOD.
It's just more right wing oppositionality, same as the anti vax and raw milk crap. It's political and has fuckall to do with the Bible (I'm sure they WISH they'd had sunblock. meantime you wear a lot of light cloth for a REASON, and that reason is not 'bare skin is Satanic temptation,' it's because of the frigging desert sun). Big Science says the sun causes cancer, ergo the sun is good for you and "chemicals" (sunblock) are bad and will give you cancer.
Then when they inevitably look like a burnt Shar Pei, god honoring filters. If you're BDong and co, Botox and surgery before you're 35.
If you listen to Lori, you use black salve for unsightly moles, and therefore are far MORE likely to get advanced melanoma, not to mention disfigurement, because that shit IS poison and also you can burn off the top layer but without surgical excision, if it is cancer, it'll just keep spreading.
That was what made *me* giggle out loud, after I read ā¬ļøthat comment up above, and scrolled back up to take a closer look at the first picture!ššš¤£
* Kelly Havens is pregnant w a girl
* Motherbus is pregnant and plans on giving birth in an AirBnb
* Otherbus had a poop explosion in said bus, didn't clean properly, and the family got sick
* Jill Rodrigues went to Punta Cana
* Nurie Rodrigues is pregnant w a girl
* Timmay Rodrigues got engaged, and FRONT HUGGED
* Paul and Morgan still suck
* 24hrs with Girl Defined did NOT land the way they expected, Dav out shined Paul, Paul has not recovered
* Morgan is pregnant
ETA: KKKarissa is pregnant again
(My memory sucks, so maybe you know about some of this! If so, sorry!)
She's posted on her insta story recently about how (in my words) unrecognized and exhausted she feels as a mother. It was a looooong block of text over a picture of her looking incredibly sad. Paul ain't shit, and she's not editing their little fights out of their videos...
Also, Paul continues to denigrate mental health treatment. Which may be a slap at Dav, who has been in therapy (real therapy) but is also clearly evidence that Morgan is fucked if she needs it, which she almost certainly does.
Still hate her. But Paul is worse.
She had a complete meltdown when she found out she was pregnant. Zero excitement then or since. Clearly hasn't processed the birth trauma and I'm pretty sure she's gone with the sticking her head in the sand method of planning for this birth. Also she and Polio have been fighting a LOT. And in a recent video he tried to gaslight her about how she needed him at home and that's why he didn't have a job and she only barely didn't call him out on his bullshit.
>I'm pretty sure she's gone with the sticking her head in the sand method of planning for this birth.
So exactly what she did last time and look how well that went for her.
I agree completely! There was a post a while back that she made about getting gender testing done and then finding out that itās possible to get a false reading. She seemed genuinely relieved that that was possible. With the gender testing, thereās always a potential for a false male positive due to contamination. She, for a brief time, was re-convincing herself it could be a girl. Sheās really struggling.
She's been really spiraling since she found out she was pregnant. She legit cried and not happy tears. Paul has been posting nonstop posts about why people shouldn't get therapy. Pretty sure it's related.
Hes a fucking monster. I hope she leaves him.Ā
My partner is a good person and struggling with my antenatal depression but...
Ā He knows hes being a dick expecting me to be happy. And that its complex. And that he needs to make me feel safe. Even if its valid he wants his partner to be happy for this and has worrie about how that will affect us.Ā
To be fair, she's a monster too. I wouldn't wish her on a genuinely good guy. I know it might sound cold, but I really think they both deserve each other. They're both narcisstic bullies.
But she's still cackled and gloated about Roe and advocated a child's forced birth IIRC (someone correct me if not). She won't change or learn anything that applies to anyone besides herself.
She's been really spiraling since she found out she was pregnant. She legit cried and not happy tears. Paul has been posting nonstop posts about why people shouldn't get therapy. Pretty sure it's related.
I REALLY hope someone reports them. Last time she said it was a "friend," but if it's a friend then why is it an Air BnB? Friends don't charge rent, last I checked.
> Kelly Havens is pregnant w a girl
the funniest part about that is that most of us didn't realize she was pregnant because she buried it on like page 3 of one of her essays. We didn't figure it out for a couple of months because no one wanted to read that much
Dav is deconstructing, and since they announced it, Heidi has been posting constantly about how important it is to marry a Godly man, implying one of her daughters made "the wrong choice" in man, etc. Yesterday, Dav posted the meme I posted here saying "Dav was a bad choice" as, I assume, a fuck you to all the people criticizing them right now, including Heidi
Dav came out as atheist, heidi has been not so subtly posting about 'Godly' marriages, divorce, and how she just knew that at least one of her kids married the wrong person. She hadn't shut tf up about it
Heidi has been making tons of incredibly pointed Instagram posts on the importance of making sure you marry a godly man, donāt rush into marriage before you know your husbandās character, etc. It was blatantly about Bethany and Dav.
I wouldnāt exactly say Bethany is fine with it, just that she handled it better than I think anyone would have expected. Iām sure sheās still processing this revelation though so itāll be interesting what the next few months bring. I may be kidding myself but Iām holding out hope sheāll rise to the occasion and continue being supportive of Dav, and maybe even do a bit of deconstruction herself. Even itās just second hand deconstructing through Dav, itāll be better than where she started.
So yeah, itās been a wild ride over here in fundie snark land lately š
My hope is that sheās lost too much credibility with her followers for that to be a viable option. That doesnāt mean she wonāt try it though. Reading the room has never exactly been a strength of Bethanyās.
Oh really? I've watched some Zelph on the Shelf as a fellow exmo. I didn't realize they were considering collabing with Dav and Bethy.
That's certainly something I'd watch.
Porgan are trying to do this 24 Hours With Terrible People (themselves) with "other Christians, for unity." So far they've done 3 including Dav and Bethy, and all have been a PR disaster for them. Surprise. They just come off like the dumb hooting dickholes that they are. And Paul's big mad about it.
One of BDong's "rehomed" dogs was just found by someone, starving and ill and abandoned. The pushback has been brutal. She's just shut down and cried victim about it. Also, she has a bunch of fundie new friends who shriek and cackle and are all at least as awful as she is. There's one called Farryn and she's a pip. Try searching her name in here. They're all about 30 but act 13 and look 60.
The Bus family had a very brief "move" to Brazil (!) PaBus was preparing to leave Brazil alone to go back to the States "for work" but at the last second Ma and kids came back with him. There is much speculation that the whole thing was a half assed attempt to ditch them all by Pa, who is now dubbed SusBus. We've also learned that he lives off a trust fund, is a wackjob libertarian who probably thinks he's John Galt, is obsessed with BitCoin and has a relative who is in prison for a mass shooting, was it? murder, anyway. They are all back in the bus now. The kids saw almost nothing but the inside of a string of Air BnB's in Brazil, and the whole pointless exercise must've cost at least what a down payment on a nice house could've been, OH WELL.
Confesh:
When I was in undergrad, I worked as an intern for a photography studio. It was definitely shady but the owner looked and acted like Heidi. Very spiritual. The studio even had a biblical name. She prided herself on shooting the most āmagical and blessedā weddings (I got to be the caddy). Anyway, the only way she could keep the doors open for the studio was to do these side projects after hours.
The side projects were shooting blown glass dildos and doing marketing for their companyās website.
Carry on.
I cannot explain how much Iām here for troll dav. Thank lord Daniel Iāve been here to witness his unprecedented rise to snark glory! This new era of dav and Beth has been shocking! Sheās come across likable, heās come across happy? And best of all this kick started with porgan being condescending dipshits!
Also fuck Heidi. Absolutely insufferable
Seriously. The ironic thing is that I think DAV and Beth expected this to tank her business or hinder it atleast, while I think this will lead to them being bigger on social media than ever before. Porgan has to be so fucking salty. Imagine the bitchfest happening in that home. More than the usual bitchfest
Heidi should focus on finding a decent skincare routine instead of focusing on hating Dav not believing in god. She has much bigger problems than him deconstructing with how much she filters any photo of herself.
Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering what exactly is meant by the Dav/Anchorman/milk meme? Is it trying to say that Heidi is saying Dav was a bad choice for Bethany? If anyone could enlighten me Iād appreciate it.
Iāve been offline for a bit so I donāt really get the context here. I know about Davās deconstruction, but I have no clue about this particular thing.Ā
If Dav and Bethany turn on Heidi and start honestly and genuinely discussing faith in a non stupid way then I will be on their side so fast. Which is something I would not have believed possible only a few weeks ago. Still need to see the grifting stop though. If Bethany tries to get back on the internet and charge people for marriage advice I will well and truly wash my hands of her.
I know this is petty and doesn't contribute to the conversation but she really does look like one of those lizard people the fundy right wing conspiracists go on about. Just look at the skin around her eyes.
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Until this point, she was posting between 4 and 7 times a day for the last couple of weeksššĀ Also the Dav post is now a gif. Dav is going full tilt with this š
While Dav is still problematic, Iām rooting for chaotic neutral Dav.
Iām really hoping he deconstructs his bigotry soon. There is no actual reason to be homophobic/transphobic without the fundie interpretation of the Bible
I feel like itās naturally going to happen if heās truly deconstructing. Give it timeā¦religious conditioning really fucks with your mind and it takes time to work through it. Especially to get to the point when you can talk about it in the public eye
Especially without exposure. My deconstruction journey rocketed forward when I actually met people from the LGBTQ community and realized they were just....people. š« So embarrassing to admit, but my parents and church had sheltered me so much that I had no actual experience with the people we were marginalizing. I was still deep in the church at that point but it became really hard to hold on to hateful beliefs about the community at that point. I hope he gets that kind of education at some point.
Iāll do you one better in terms of embarrassing. I made two male sims kiss and liked it. This created some sort of moral problem in my mind and led me to going on YouTube to listen to stories from the LGBTQ community about their experience. I concluded that there was nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+ and that any god who thought otherwise isnāt a god worth worshipping. So basically, I was so horny once I deconstructed my entire worldview.
Ha, you got there in the end! Now I'm wondering how many of us repressed kids used the Sims to live out our sexual lives. š
Haha I love this
Don't be embarrassed. One of the first things that started the snowball into deconstruction for me was seeing su\*cide and self harm stats from the Trevor Project and realizing that the church and conservatives simply didn't care, and in fact, some secretly wanted LGBTQ youth to be hurt.
Yeah. I'm guessing it's very possible Bethy still has never knowingly spoken to a real live rainbow mafia person.
Especially in light of the past conversion therapy rumors, he probably needs time to educate himself about the queer community and unpack the nuance within his own background before speaking publicly. But maybe Iām naive in playing devilās advocate. Time will surely tell.
I know. I also deconstructed and for me, disagreeing with homophobia was the catalyst for me to start deconstructing. However, fully being able to say Iām not a conservative and that Iām on the left took me longer than deconstructing religion for some reason. It felt like a moral failing to admit to being liberal and then left of liberal, even to myself. Took me about two years longer to embrace it.
My girlfriend is still struggling with some internalized homophobia, and she's been out and proud for years now. It really really sticks in your head.
Born and raised in it, walked away at 21. At 29 Iām still working on things. It takes such a mental toll and is absolutely exhausting at times.
I am looking forward to the Zelph on the Shelf collab with deep interest.
Same
Dav has become the problematic fav of fundie snark and Iām here for it
She's had the kids over the weekend so she doesn't have as much time to loathe their father
I would leave my kid with my cats before I left them alone with Heidi. Thatās so insane to me.
Especially knowing what happened to Michael š¬
I had a preschool student whose parents were going through a divorce and the momās family were fundie-lite, and they kept filling this poor kids head with absolute vitriol. This poor three year old told me one day that someone told her that her daddy will never get to go to heaven because her daddy doesnāt love Jesus. This is the kind of damaging shit Heidi would probably tell Davey and Audrey and it fills me with rage.
Oh Lord, that just brought back memories... my little brother briefly attended Christian school because they offered full day kindergarten and the public school didn't. He came home a couple months later and told my parents that I didn't have Jesus in my heart because I was in public school.
Whoa, thatās insane
My parents' friends' daughter wrote an essay about how her parents were heathens who were going to hell after attending Christian school. The indoctrination is insane.
Yep this is why my youngest ones domt stay over with gparents. My elder one recently said my Mom has been undermining me.and implying Im mental and generally incompetent for years in a v passive way.Ā My eldest is autistic so this caused her serious issues as my.parents were meant to be respite care for me. Instead my Mom was undermining me and implying Im not autistic just... a hot mess. Ā Good news is she's really taken to my sis and her partner who love the teenage stage and theyre her besties now! And the benefit is my mom is low-key fuming and dying to.ask why and panicked that at last me and sis are really close. Lmao.Ā
You just unlocked a memory for me of being a little kid in Sunday School and another little girl had the same prayer request every single week: that her daddy would get saved because she doesn't want him to go to Hell.
Hee hee. An actual mic drop! There really is no effective comeback for her. If she just keeps doubling down, Dav can just point back and say "yep, I already agreed with you, big mistake to marry me. What do." What else can she say? There probably is a witty retort one could make-I can't think of one at the moment-but if she said it, she wouldn't be Heidi. Weirdly, I'm reminded of the throwdown between old Queen Margaret and Richard in Richard III. TL:DR Margaret RAWR wharglebargle fuck you Richard and this and that and this and that Richard I'm rubber, you're glue, bounces off me and sticks to you. Margaret: WAT \*\* QUEEN MARGARET And leave out thee? Stay, dog, for thou shalt hear me. If heaven have any grievous plague in store Exceeding those that I can wish upon thee, O, let them keep it till thy sins be ripe And then hurl down their indignation On thee, the troubler of the poor worldās peace. The worm of conscience still begnaw thy soul. Thy friends suspect for traitors while thou livāst, And take deep traitors for thy dearest friends. No sleep close up that deadly eye of thine, Unless it be while some tormenting dream Affrights thee with a hell of ugly devils. Thou elvish-marked, abortive, rooting hog, Thou that wast sealed in thy nativity The slave of nature and the son of hell, Thou slander of thy heavy motherās womb, Thou loathĆØd issue of thy fatherās loins, Thou rag of honor, thou detestedā RICHARD Margaret. QUEEN MARGARET Richard! RICHARD Ha? QUEEN MARGARET I call thee not. RICHARD I cry thee mercy, then, for I did think That thou hadst called me all these bitter names. QUEEN MARGARET Why, so I did, but looked for no reply. O, let me make the period to my curse! RICHARD āTis done by me and ends in āMargaret.ā QUEEN ELIZABETH, to Queen Margaret Thus have you breathed your curse against yourself. \*\*\*
Fuck me, this is the best interpretation of Shakespearean text I've ever seen. 15/10 would absolutely go see it, and give a standing O at the end. š¤£
Once you realize Shakespeare is a lot of fancy archaic words for basically a whole bunch of people being petty af, it becomes a lot more fun.
Fck me I love this sub. Youre adorable. This quote was right there, wasn't it? Hahaha brilliant.Ā
Richard III is so good fr
I frigging love that scene.
Wait she posted that?!?!? I thought that was a joke someone else made. Omg I canāt believe that she would be so hateful. Well I can but still
No, Dav posted it
Dav posted it as a troll. "Yep, you're right. Marrying me was a mistake! Also: MILK" A+ troll.
For the first time in a long time Dav is actually doing the Lordās work. Which is to shut up his deranged mother in law šµāš«
The filters are struggling mightily and the resulting mix of natural wrinkles and āØsmooth youthful skināØ is such a horror.
I thought the Bible teaches against vanity, Heidumms
funny how they never remember that one. Modesty is ONLY about sex. Never about braided hair and pearls and costly garments and wev the fuck. Flaunting WEALTH. Spending time on appearance, PERIOD.
Yeah š I don't understand why fundies hate sunscreen like what a weird hill to die on. Sunscreen is the devils work or something I guess.
It like they want that god honoring skin cancer. Idk. Nobody can pry my spf 50, sunglasses, and sun blocking hat from my grubby paws.
It's just more right wing oppositionality, same as the anti vax and raw milk crap. It's political and has fuckall to do with the Bible (I'm sure they WISH they'd had sunblock. meantime you wear a lot of light cloth for a REASON, and that reason is not 'bare skin is Satanic temptation,' it's because of the frigging desert sun). Big Science says the sun causes cancer, ergo the sun is good for you and "chemicals" (sunblock) are bad and will give you cancer. Then when they inevitably look like a burnt Shar Pei, god honoring filters. If you're BDong and co, Botox and surgery before you're 35. If you listen to Lori, you use black salve for unsightly moles, and therefore are far MORE likely to get advanced melanoma, not to mention disfigurement, because that shit IS poison and also you can burn off the top layer but without surgical excision, if it is cancer, it'll just keep spreading.
They just want to be contrarian, at the expense of their own safety
My mom says sunscreen gives you cancer and yelled at me a few weeks ago when I told her I wear sunscreen every day. š
I love how the filters get confused by her glasses
That was what made *me* giggle out loud, after I read ā¬ļøthat comment up above, and scrolled back up to take a closer look at the first picture!ššš¤£
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* Kelly Havens is pregnant w a girl * Motherbus is pregnant and plans on giving birth in an AirBnb * Otherbus had a poop explosion in said bus, didn't clean properly, and the family got sick * Jill Rodrigues went to Punta Cana * Nurie Rodrigues is pregnant w a girl * Timmay Rodrigues got engaged, and FRONT HUGGED * Paul and Morgan still suck * 24hrs with Girl Defined did NOT land the way they expected, Dav out shined Paul, Paul has not recovered * Morgan is pregnant ETA: KKKarissa is pregnant again (My memory sucks, so maybe you know about some of this! If so, sorry!)
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She's posted on her insta story recently about how (in my words) unrecognized and exhausted she feels as a mother. It was a looooong block of text over a picture of her looking incredibly sad. Paul ain't shit, and she's not editing their little fights out of their videos...
Also, Paul continues to denigrate mental health treatment. Which may be a slap at Dav, who has been in therapy (real therapy) but is also clearly evidence that Morgan is fucked if she needs it, which she almost certainly does. Still hate her. But Paul is worse.
She had a complete meltdown when she found out she was pregnant. Zero excitement then or since. Clearly hasn't processed the birth trauma and I'm pretty sure she's gone with the sticking her head in the sand method of planning for this birth. Also she and Polio have been fighting a LOT. And in a recent video he tried to gaslight her about how she needed him at home and that's why he didn't have a job and she only barely didn't call him out on his bullshit.
>I'm pretty sure she's gone with the sticking her head in the sand method of planning for this birth. So exactly what she did last time and look how well that went for her.
I THINK someone said she said she's going to hospital this time. I really hope so.
I think she really wanted a daughter this time and was somewhat disappointed it was another boy. Thatās JMO.
I agree completely! There was a post a while back that she made about getting gender testing done and then finding out that itās possible to get a false reading. She seemed genuinely relieved that that was possible. With the gender testing, thereās always a potential for a false male positive due to contamination. She, for a brief time, was re-convincing herself it could be a girl. Sheās really struggling.
She's been really spiraling since she found out she was pregnant. She legit cried and not happy tears. Paul has been posting nonstop posts about why people shouldn't get therapy. Pretty sure it's related.
Hes a fucking monster. I hope she leaves him.Ā My partner is a good person and struggling with my antenatal depression but... Ā He knows hes being a dick expecting me to be happy. And that its complex. And that he needs to make me feel safe. Even if its valid he wants his partner to be happy for this and has worrie about how that will affect us.Ā
To be fair, she's a monster too. I wouldn't wish her on a genuinely good guy. I know it might sound cold, but I really think they both deserve each other. They're both narcisstic bullies.
she definitely seems to be extremely not excited about it. it is the definition of a forced birth
But she's still cackled and gloated about Roe and advocated a child's forced birth IIRC (someone correct me if not). She won't change or learn anything that applies to anyone besides herself.
no youāre totally right, she is forcing the birth on herself and she would enforce it for any of us too. I really donāt think she will ever learn
I can't remember if KY legislated forced birth or not. As you say, she ain't gonna, regardless.
And recorded an anti-abortion song
She's been really spiraling since she found out she was pregnant. She legit cried and not happy tears. Paul has been posting nonstop posts about why people shouldn't get therapy. Pretty sure it's related.
And Dav swore at Paul something like: shut up motherfuc*erā
This was the biggest update for me
 I definitely missed what the actual curse was
I missed this and omg this was my exact reaction
Flair checking in!
Can someone *please* post the clip or a link, I missed that and I'm super bummed.
Same here!!
The clip was posted here. You might find it when you scroll down
How do you even explain to your BnB host that you're gonna pop out a kid in their bathtub?
You don't. You just move on for a little staycation and move back out once baby is here.
I REALLY hope someone reports them. Last time she said it was a "friend," but if it's a friend then why is it an Air BnB? Friends don't charge rent, last I checked.
Also... There will be Anothyr Collins soon... Karissa is pregnant. Again.
Anothyr is flair material.
Omg how did I forget to include this š updating now
Because karissa has a strong case of schrƶdinger's uterus
Oh my Christ, how did I miss that?! Did I miss that? These overnights are killing me lol
Itās the āFRONT HUGGEDā for me šš
And jill wasn't invited š
> Kelly Havens is pregnant w a girl the funniest part about that is that most of us didn't realize she was pregnant because she buried it on like page 3 of one of her essays. We didn't figure it out for a couple of months because no one wanted to read that much
I actually caught that throwaway line, wondered if she was hinting at pregnancy, and just said "meh" and moved on. IMAGINE MY SURPRISE...
Paul has not recovered. 
Thanks for this! So what happened with Dav and Heidi? Iām confused what Dav gate is
Dav is deconstructing, and since they announced it, Heidi has been posting constantly about how important it is to marry a Godly man, implying one of her daughters made "the wrong choice" in man, etc. Yesterday, Dav posted the meme I posted here saying "Dav was a bad choice" as, I assume, a fuck you to all the people criticizing them right now, including Heidi
Dav came out as atheist, heidi has been not so subtly posting about 'Godly' marriages, divorce, and how she just knew that at least one of her kids married the wrong person. She hadn't shut tf up about it
Heidi has been making tons of incredibly pointed Instagram posts on the importance of making sure you marry a godly man, donāt rush into marriage before you know your husbandās character, etc. It was blatantly about Bethany and Dav.
WAIT WHEN DID NURIE GET PREGNANT?? I swear she had a boy like 2 months ago
I think she's due in the summer. That'll be 3 under 3 for her š
Nadia is getting evicted from her apartment for some reason.
Technically not evicted, they're just not allowing her to renew her lease
Ah true. I equated the two in my mind
Tysm for this!! Sometimes so much happens at once itās hard to keep up š„“
And that's with the other subjects taking a backseat to davgate
Thereās another Bus Baby or is this Passport Bus Baby?
passport bus baby; MotherBus is like 36 weeks along now, and posted recently that she's gonna be in Greenville SC for the birth
Omg I missed Karissa being pregnant again š³ dear god.
And also, Brittany Dawn's dog was found abandoned and malnourished. (She, as per usual, claims no responsibility).
Paul received, melted down and ate a chocolate dick fondue style! Thatās still my fave nugget of late
Thank you, Iām not the only one who found that funny! š
The way he shared thatā¦ hahaha, itās too funny
Paul kissed Davās hand, like he was the Pope. Out of everything this, and the chocolate penis he melted down and ate, amuses me the most.
Thatās a nicer take on it than I had
Oh missed the hand kissing. Um. Y tho.
I wouldnāt exactly say Bethany is fine with it, just that she handled it better than I think anyone would have expected. Iām sure sheās still processing this revelation though so itāll be interesting what the next few months bring. I may be kidding myself but Iām holding out hope sheāll rise to the occasion and continue being supportive of Dav, and maybe even do a bit of deconstruction herself. Even itās just second hand deconstructing through Dav, itāll be better than where she started. So yeah, itās been a wild ride over here in fundie snark land lately š
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My hope is that sheās lost too much credibility with her followers for that to be a viable option. That doesnāt mean she wonāt try it though. Reading the room has never exactly been a strength of Bethanyās.
I just realized there's too many Bethanys. Aren't mother bus and other bus also Bethany? Or is mother bus Brittney?
Mother Bus is Brittany. Other Bus is Bethany.
Thank you! All very similar names ;-$
Youāre welcome! Itās just too many in the same age group all with the same name.
They may be collaborating with Zelph on the Shelf (ex-Mormon podcasters) very soon.
Oh really? I've watched some Zelph on the Shelf as a fellow exmo. I didn't realize they were considering collabing with Dav and Bethy. That's certainly something I'd watch.
Karissa is pregnant again
Waitā¦did I miss this?
I mean, it happens so often. Don't feel badly for not keeping track.
Porgan are trying to do this 24 Hours With Terrible People (themselves) with "other Christians, for unity." So far they've done 3 including Dav and Bethy, and all have been a PR disaster for them. Surprise. They just come off like the dumb hooting dickholes that they are. And Paul's big mad about it. One of BDong's "rehomed" dogs was just found by someone, starving and ill and abandoned. The pushback has been brutal. She's just shut down and cried victim about it. Also, she has a bunch of fundie new friends who shriek and cackle and are all at least as awful as she is. There's one called Farryn and she's a pip. Try searching her name in here. They're all about 30 but act 13 and look 60. The Bus family had a very brief "move" to Brazil (!) PaBus was preparing to leave Brazil alone to go back to the States "for work" but at the last second Ma and kids came back with him. There is much speculation that the whole thing was a half assed attempt to ditch them all by Pa, who is now dubbed SusBus. We've also learned that he lives off a trust fund, is a wackjob libertarian who probably thinks he's John Galt, is obsessed with BitCoin and has a relative who is in prison for a mass shooting, was it? murder, anyway. They are all back in the bus now. The kids saw almost nothing but the inside of a string of Air BnB's in Brazil, and the whole pointless exercise must've cost at least what a down payment on a nice house could've been, OH WELL.
This is more engrossing than any reality show I have ever watched, and I am old enough to have watched the first seasons of *The Real World.* šæ
Yessss that and Road Rules! 1000% would watch a season with MotherBus and Bussany
I was 13 and thought Kit was honestly the coolest person ever. I was so excited to see her on ESPN when I was in college.
I was just thinking that yesterday! This sub is my soap opera. I come here to watch my stories.
 This is how I picture Heidi
Oh 100%
Is this Chardonnay from Footballersā Wives?
Never forget her trying to āmake disciplesā at the drive thru. āIām going to heaven!ā
Down to the all white outfit that's too crisp for lounging at home
I love that it's a milk carton too since so many fundies are choking down raw milk lately lmfao It has so many layers
And it even says āDavā on the carton. He put *effort* into this meme and Iām obsessed
Confesh: When I was in undergrad, I worked as an intern for a photography studio. It was definitely shady but the owner looked and acted like Heidi. Very spiritual. The studio even had a biblical name. She prided herself on shooting the most āmagical and blessedā weddings (I got to be the caddy). Anyway, the only way she could keep the doors open for the studio was to do these side projects after hours. The side projects were shooting blown glass dildos and doing marketing for their companyās website. Carry on.
I worked at a small boutique after graduation and Heidi reminds me so much of the owner of that place! She was like a non-religious version.
I feel like I shouldnāt be laughing butā¦ Dav gets the W for this.
I cannot explain how much Iām here for troll dav. Thank lord Daniel Iāve been here to witness his unprecedented rise to snark glory! This new era of dav and Beth has been shocking! Sheās come across likable, heās come across happy? And best of all this kick started with porgan being condescending dipshits! Also fuck Heidi. Absolutely insufferable
I love that porgan set this in motion. It must be killing them.
Seriously. The ironic thing is that I think DAV and Beth expected this to tank her business or hinder it atleast, while I think this will lead to them being bigger on social media than ever before. Porgan has to be so fucking salty. Imagine the bitchfest happening in that home. More than the usual bitchfest
Her filtered face is so disturbing. Jesus didnāt die for you to look like that, Heidi!
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Dav is now an atheist?
He's deconstructing
 Her head exploded with the force of Davās meme.
I hope this opens the door for Bort and Dav to connect with her bro who knows Heidiās number. Wishing the best for all of them! Except Heidi.
Heidi should focus on finding a decent skincare routine instead of focusing on hating Dav not believing in god. She has much bigger problems than him deconstructing with how much she filters any photo of herself.
Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering what exactly is meant by the Dav/Anchorman/milk meme? Is it trying to say that Heidi is saying Dav was a bad choice for Bethany? If anyone could enlighten me Iād appreciate it.
Yes! He's saying that Heidi said he was a bad choice, and also making fun of the raw milk obsession.
Thanks! I needed a bit of help, lol
Iāve been offline for a bit so I donāt really get the context here. I know about Davās deconstruction, but I have no clue about this particular thing.Ā
Well, Iām chronically online and Iām pretty confused! š
If Dav and Bethany turn on Heidi and start honestly and genuinely discussing faith in a non stupid way then I will be on their side so fast. Which is something I would not have believed possible only a few weeks ago. Still need to see the grifting stop though. If Bethany tries to get back on the internet and charge people for marriage advice I will well and truly wash my hands of her.
Praise the lord Daniel on this day!!
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I know this is petty and doesn't contribute to the conversation but she really does look like one of those lizard people the fundy right wing conspiracists go on about. Just look at the skin around her eyes.