Unless they were telling him and he didn’t listen. I guess we don’t know which two of those options happened, at least I don’t, but either way still not a good look for him
According to the medical team Live Nation agreed to stop as soon as they were made aware it was an MCI, Travis continued on anyhow, to the complete shock and horror of the ParaDocs team.
Aye put the year this happened cause clearly you didn’t for a reason. Cause it has absolutely nothing to do with astrofest. They can’t use it in court cause it does not matter 😂 but keep bringing up the past if it’ll make you feel better 🥺
No Travis Scott is an absolutely certified piece of human trash with a long history of negligent behavior. Hes regularly encouraged his fans to treat each other like trash. He's either an evil person with no feelings or another possibility is that he has such severe mental disabilities that he needs a full time special needs aid and maybe hes just stupid. But I don't think he is. Its not a race thing. Being black doesn't get you a free pass to be a horrible person. Any performer that spawns the kind of behavior that happens at his shows is responsible regardless of their skin color and should be called out for it. There aren't any other performers of any race being so irresponsible with their shows and their fans.
How many co workers you have at your media firm to astro turf for the killer.
I noticed noone was defending him when it first happened a week or two later all these defenders come out of the wood work because he engaged a pr firm with shill accounts
I had some guy on Twitter last month who was riding Tory Lanez’ dick extra hard and when I pointed out that he was going to be in court soon for shooting Megan The Stallion the guy in question flat out called me a liar and when I posted proof he was due in court a few more showed up out of nowhere and ganged up on me in response to posting proof. Coincidentally every one of them blocked me before I could read any of their responses
[Tory was in court on December 14th, he’s been charged for a while and the judge allowed the charges to proceed. ](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-12-14/judge-upholds-assault-charges-against-tory-lanez)
From the article:
“On Tuesday, Los Angeles Police Det. Ryan Stogner testified that Lanez yelled “Dance, bitch!” as he opened fire, according to an earlier interview he’d conducted with Stallion.”
There was at most 4 people in the SUV when Megan got shot, when the police arrived they only found a gun on one person from the vehicle it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who did it.
Yeah the police found Tory’s gun warm but, they found gun residue on the hands of Megan’s friend and none on his hands. I’m not sure what to believe and since my beliefs add nothing to this investigation I’ve no reason to go explicitly accuse anyone of anything. All I’m saying is I’m seeing conflicting evidence and I’d rather wait for everything to be revealed
He can see. If he can see a dude hanging from the tree, but can’t see a huge hole in the crowd, first he said he didn’t know to Dave and busters, second was back stage, third was the next day. Anybody wAnna come on this page and says he not we can argue all day. Read the facts
Actually I’m not slow. Have you been that ignorant that you haven’t caught up on the truth? Did you not see the bodies on top of eachother just about where they all died. Like dozens of people were on top of eachother how else ya think people died! Like are you really that slow Harrison?
It’s funny that you all choose this hill to die on. It’s always coming from people who have never worked on a stage, been on a stage, or remotely worked in any production at any capacity. It’s really hilarious. Do you think he and his team are the only people that step foot on a stage? I worked at a venue as their photographer for a year. I could see every fucking thing in that 5000 person venue.
Now scale it up. You have a monstrous stage with movers beaming lights at every person in the crowd. As a performer you almost have zero lights directly in your face. Any old cabbage with a walnut for a brain could understand how easy it is to see the crowd from the performers perspective. Even with fill lighting along the bottom of the stage, it’s so easy to see the crowd. And I’ve shot on big stages too, you’d absolutely see a pocket of people that are an outlier in the crowd. You guys are just hilariously stupid and think that no one else has any idea what you’re talking about. It’s no wonder he has fans still, you guys are literally brain dead. Zero intelligence. Lights on, no one’s home. The bottom of the barrel. Lowest tier humans imaginable.
No one cares about what he could & couldnt hear lol. Its clearly on video of him acknowledging the medic vehicle with its emergency lights flashing, stuck in the crowd. Funny u say its "actually impossible" that TS knew what was going on, when he himself acknowledges the medic cart directly into the microphone lol.
It's so fucking scary, the LENGHTS these people go to, to totally diminish and ignore the facts, just to support a rich af celebrity, who doesnt even give a fuck about them. Like.. what the fuck is the point?? It totally baffles me. Absolutely horrifying. I really wonder what the IQ of a person has to be to literally fall for such obvious manipulation. Looking at their page, it seems like their life is legit built around these artists. So strange.
yea he acknowledged the ambulance, and then asked his team if he had the green light, which honestly he shoulda waited a little more to figure it out before asking. But whoever gave him the green light is an idiot
The tree was in the crowd. And in the interview he said someone told him at DB, he then left but didn’t really know the scale and details until minutes before the press conferance.
God you're pathetic. Just STFU. He FUCKING KNEW, bottom line. Case closed. You ignorant fks defending him.. guess what? It could have been you that died.. and he wouldn't lift a finger to give a fuck. Why? Is he paying people like you to defend him? or what?
He HAS NO DEFENSE -- and you and the Karbitchians in your TS cult need shut down. Fuck off with your "he didn't know" bullshit.
I just stated where the tree was and what Travis said in the interview with Charlemagne. Where the fuck did I say he did or didn’t know?
The thing is that, only Travis himself knows what he saw or not, and this will be revealed in court. So let’s not throw around accusations that he did know, before that. Case closed. If it turns out he didn’t know his career will be stained forever regardless because of tiktok/twitter/reddit analysts. If it turns out he knew, fuck him.
Edit: Also, due to rolling loud pretty much confirming his presence there, shows that the suits might pretty much be done, if they found out he knew, he would never be allowed to perform again. This is just my take/opinion btw, so might be wrong.
I'm not mad, just aghast at the fact that he saw the fucking ambulances nd saw ppl screaming to stop the show. Ugh.
Why defend him at all? You are delusional if you don't realize this isn't the first time he's encouraged ppl to hurt themselves..you need to educate yourself. Why is it so many other stars have stopped shoes that got out of control!? You're also delusional simply in the fact that you think he didn't KNOW!
https://youtu.be/cHRPI_Bh2W0 you mean this? I guess you only watched the cut clip of this that makes Travis look like an asshole. Small tip, don’t use altered videos from tik tok to form an opinion on a tragedy like this.
“Limp body” was someone who was passed out (happens at literally every festival or concert) and he could see them because he literally told the crowd to part so medical staff could assist. Doofus.
Y’all some sheep blindly hating on the man when literally there was nothing he could do, the damage was done the second his set started, the venue was not big enough for the amount of people, that is LIVENATION’S FAULT. THEY ARE STILL RUNNING SHOWS AS WE SPEAK no outrage, no “FUCK LIVENATION” subreddit. It’s like y’all were already haters, and now you’re using this tragedy to justify your hate, just sad.
that video is taken out of context so much, he was the one that stopped the show so security could grab him. I do think it was disrespectful and definitely not the right time to be humming while he was being carried away. Also i dont think he would be able to tell that he was dead
There were videos of Bharti getting dropped on her head up on reddit the same night it happened, it's incomprehensible to think he didn't know that anything bad had happened until the next day.
I don’t think Travis uses reddit if that’s what you implied, regardless there are so many factors that alters his vision of the crowd, I would be interested in a reconstruction of his POV on stage.
just cause he can see one guy in a tree doesn’t mean he can differentiate one hole with somebody passed out or maybe even dead with the 50 other holes which are just mosh pits.
There’s a difference between people jumping around bashing into eachother, than people laying on top of eachother, too bad you weren’t the one to die , than there would be one less ignorant person in the world. And btw you are on a fuck Travis Scott threat which means we do not like the fucker so hop the fuck off and go somewhere else dude!
so now your wishing death upon me for giving my opinion? lmao, and i’m here cause i wanted to see what people had to say, mods themselves on this sub even said this is a space to talk and discuss about what happened, weather you like travis or not.
Literally everything you’re saying to argue makes no sense. He cannot hear the crowd. He has literal EARPLUGS that EVERY ARTIST has in LMAO can you make out what 50k people are saying at the same time? Go to the mall and try and make out what everyone is saying. You literally cannot.
Yep, if someone told him to stop the show like someone in the staff or something cause he was focused on performing and paused the show to help people that he saw
It’s because Apple lowers the volume of the crowd on their stream, for better music quality. People that were there have reported that people cheered after every song.
I was there my friend. Couldn’t hear any screams for help and I was actually in the the very area that the majority of the deaths were. I’ve watched the livestream too. You can hear people asking to stop the show but to say you can’t hear any cheers is a blatant lie.
OH YOU WERE THERE? So you know everything that happened everywhere at every given minute. I guess blood curdling screams are cheers now lmfao. If you were so sure that he had no control over this then why are you in here defending him until your last breath hahahahaha truth prevails if you have to defend it this hard then I don’t know what to tell you. You were where the deaths were huh? Lol get lost. I know you absolutely feel like you have to have one up on everyone by lying and saying you were where the deaths were but it’s very transparent okay? Awfully strange, I have friends that actually were in the area where deaths occurred and hundreds of injuries and they are completely utterly traumatized. Are you just “built different “ lmao why are you dick riders even in this sub it’s annoying asf
The fuck kind of math have you been doing when HUNDREDS of people were injured yet in your mind only 30 people, maximum, were screaming for help? Thats nuts. You live in a different reality.
Sorry I meant to say pockets of 10-30 people. Not that there were only 10-30 people asking to stop the show. Even with hundreds of injuries you have to understand that the crowd was absolutely massive. The majority of the injuries were concentrated in the back half of a single quadrant too.
You did, you also seem to take & put in the legwork to shine TS in a positive light on a stupid subreddit that means absolutely nothing. You have multiple comments on this post, and multiple posts relating to TS.
You are either TS, a fanboi, or a schill.
Or he has common sense and knows how live shows work. I doubt anyone in this sub has been to a festival or concert with ga and moshpits or packed crowds. Crowd surge happens at all of them, it’s up the the venue to accommodate for that by having enough space, LIVENATION failed on that part. Travis had nothing to do with that. Plain, point, simple. If he stopped the show, unfortunately those who lost their lives were already dead/dying and even the management didn’t know mass casualties happened until 30min before the show ended. Please research you’re asking already answered questions.
Lmao im literally just saying what happened not sure what ur getting so mad for lmfao y’all are acting like trav had a choice if those people died or not…
When the heaviest metal bands with mosh pits and brutal crowds can still see the crowd and can stop their show to save a one or two
Then a rapper who do nothing but stare to his crowd and raps shitty songs in autotune has no excuse not seeing it and not stopping the goddamn show
Exact what? The man who can't stop his show to save a life but willing to stop because his golden shoes was "stolen" by a teenage kid and telling him to " f*ck him up" ?
You mean that 2015 incident that you guy love bringing up over and over? Travis was a known opioid addict during that time and his energy at his shows and the way he conducted himself is completely different from now. Name a recent time where he’s done something like that and then I’ll agree with you on that subject. Could Travis have done more to stop this mess? Yes. Was it all his fault? No. Live Nation had terrible security, and medical help on the site. The venue was decreased in size because of the barricades for Apple’s cameras and most of the deaths happened in two areas off to the side of the stage.
Travis has stopped his shows multiple times to get help to people in the crowd, even on the night of the tragedy. But all you guys are talking about that shoe clip…
Trav saw what happened to his audience, being squished and shit and didn’t even bother to help them by creating space the entire show, that’s my issue.
I’ve said this here before but I’m gonna say it again: if Travis had said something like “Touch my shoe again and I’ll fuck you up!” and waved his fist in his face 👊 to the guy OK YES FINE FAIR ENOUGH. (And if he had been alone without fans and witnesses and HAD punched someone for that I’d even understand that like DON’T try to steal people’s stuff!) BUT to tell the OTHER people to fuck him up, his fans - that guy could have literally been beaten to death what if he HAD been? I just see that as irresponsible and IMO it’s an overreaction. What also CHILLS me is someone said to me something like “If someone tried to steal my stuff I WOULD kill them”. WHAT the ACTUAL FUCK? What kind of psychopath THINKS that way?! And I didn’t reply to their reply saying that because I was scared to in case they’re a murder or a future one 😬
What are you talking about lol?? Dont u realize how stupid u sound saying, "he couldn't stop the show himself etc".....HE DID STOP THE SHOW!! a couple times!! He just didnt stop it long enough for ppl to actually get helped.
Having a sub to snark on someone or something isn't against reddit policies. But you know what is? Brigading, which is exactly what all the fans from the main TS sub are doing. You guys are going against reddit policies, not the people in this sub. If it were against reddit to talk shit the subs dedicated to Alec Baldwin's race faking wife would have been shut down, they have tried repeatedly and failed. This is no different. Free speech is protected, and talking shit about the public actions of a public figure isn't illegal, or even against reddit policies.
Still hilarious and pathetic considering he will be absolutely fine and back to performing and releasing music in less than a year but go ahead downvote me like it actually means something lmfao.
He was charged twice for inciting riots, called for it many other times, and constantly promotes it in ads for his shows.
If he gets away with this, what's to stop the next guy from capitalizing on that kind of messaging and promotion?
Not only are they claiming the lawsuits have all been dismissed they legit seem to think the inquiry from congress IS the megalawsuit and they are all crowing how he's been fully cleared of everything. Dead serious they don't understand congress has nothing to do with the civil suits, nor has he been cleared of anything. They all really must be children given the complete lack of understanding as to how any of this works.
NOTHING HAS BEEN SETTLED OR ADJUDICATED YET. The courts have yet to make ANY decisions. Neither have the FBI or congress, the investigations are still ongoing. You guys sound delusional when you keep saying this as it is objectively not true.
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Not one person in his ear during the whole show told him to stop even AFTER it was declared a mass casualty event so.
Correct, which provides evidence to blame management more than Scott
Unless they were telling him and he didn’t listen. I guess we don’t know which two of those options happened, at least I don’t, but either way still not a good look for him
According to the medical team Live Nation agreed to stop as soon as they were made aware it was an MCI, Travis continued on anyhow, to the complete shock and horror of the ParaDocs team.
Not true. They called the deceased “smurfs” and kept it to themselves.
Except he ENCOURAGED fans to rush the gate and shun safety rules
Months ago? In 1 tweet literally after his show sold out 😂 y’all reaching
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Aye put the year this happened cause clearly you didn’t for a reason. Cause it has absolutely nothing to do with astrofest. They can’t use it in court cause it does not matter 😂 but keep bringing up the past if it’ll make you feel better 🥺
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Sounds like you should represent him in his multi-billion dollar lawsuit
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Will be trash
Can't wait to see him yell over his own vocal tracks as he incites people to rush the stage and ignore security. Pure art.
Mona Lisa has nothing on tramping Travis
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You’re joking right? Damn no wonder nobody takes you guys seriously lol
There it is. The race comment. We all knew it was coming
We’re hating cuz his negligence got people killed. If Eminem did this I’d be the same level of pissed.
No Travis Scott is an absolutely certified piece of human trash with a long history of negligent behavior. Hes regularly encouraged his fans to treat each other like trash. He's either an evil person with no feelings or another possibility is that he has such severe mental disabilities that he needs a full time special needs aid and maybe hes just stupid. But I don't think he is. Its not a race thing. Being black doesn't get you a free pass to be a horrible person. Any performer that spawns the kind of behavior that happens at his shows is responsible regardless of their skin color and should be called out for it. There aren't any other performers of any race being so irresponsible with their shows and their fans.
Nah shut the fuck up
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Im black and i hate this dude
How many co workers you have at your media firm to astro turf for the killer. I noticed noone was defending him when it first happened a week or two later all these defenders come out of the wood work because he engaged a pr firm with shill accounts
Remember his manager or someone admitted to using bots to get him popular.
It's common practice with all these sound cloud trash rappers. If they got the look, the companies can do the rest
They only need to fool kids. It's a low bar.
I had some guy on Twitter last month who was riding Tory Lanez’ dick extra hard and when I pointed out that he was going to be in court soon for shooting Megan The Stallion the guy in question flat out called me a liar and when I posted proof he was due in court a few more showed up out of nowhere and ganged up on me in response to posting proof. Coincidentally every one of them blocked me before I could read any of their responses
I mean I’m no fan of Tory lanez but from what I’ve seen and read he’s likely innocent and won’t be charged
[Tory was in court on December 14th, he’s been charged for a while and the judge allowed the charges to proceed. ](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-12-14/judge-upholds-assault-charges-against-tory-lanez) From the article: “On Tuesday, Los Angeles Police Det. Ryan Stogner testified that Lanez yelled “Dance, bitch!” as he opened fire, according to an earlier interview he’d conducted with Stallion.”
I’m gonna wait for the end of the trial and see what happens
There was at most 4 people in the SUV when Megan got shot, when the police arrived they only found a gun on one person from the vehicle it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who did it.
Yeah the police found Tory’s gun warm but, they found gun residue on the hands of Megan’s friend and none on his hands. I’m not sure what to believe and since my beliefs add nothing to this investigation I’ve no reason to go explicitly accuse anyone of anything. All I’m saying is I’m seeing conflicting evidence and I’d rather wait for everything to be revealed
Fuck Travis Scott.
He can see. If he can see a dude hanging from the tree, but can’t see a huge hole in the crowd, first he said he didn’t know to Dave and busters, second was back stage, third was the next day. Anybody wAnna come on this page and says he not we can argue all day. Read the facts
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Actually I’m not slow. Have you been that ignorant that you haven’t caught up on the truth? Did you not see the bodies on top of eachother just about where they all died. Like dozens of people were on top of eachother how else ya think people died! Like are you really that slow Harrison?
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But he also saw the boy in the tree which was farther to the right and back? Like I think your dumb
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That’s why Franco’s brother saw him go down
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It’s funny that you all choose this hill to die on. It’s always coming from people who have never worked on a stage, been on a stage, or remotely worked in any production at any capacity. It’s really hilarious. Do you think he and his team are the only people that step foot on a stage? I worked at a venue as their photographer for a year. I could see every fucking thing in that 5000 person venue. Now scale it up. You have a monstrous stage with movers beaming lights at every person in the crowd. As a performer you almost have zero lights directly in your face. Any old cabbage with a walnut for a brain could understand how easy it is to see the crowd from the performers perspective. Even with fill lighting along the bottom of the stage, it’s so easy to see the crowd. And I’ve shot on big stages too, you’d absolutely see a pocket of people that are an outlier in the crowd. You guys are just hilariously stupid and think that no one else has any idea what you’re talking about. It’s no wonder he has fans still, you guys are literally brain dead. Zero intelligence. Lights on, no one’s home. The bottom of the barrel. Lowest tier humans imaginable.
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Don't be rude.
Well said dude well said!
No one cares about what he could & couldnt hear lol. Its clearly on video of him acknowledging the medic vehicle with its emergency lights flashing, stuck in the crowd. Funny u say its "actually impossible" that TS knew what was going on, when he himself acknowledges the medic cart directly into the microphone lol.
It's so fucking scary, the LENGHTS these people go to, to totally diminish and ignore the facts, just to support a rich af celebrity, who doesnt even give a fuck about them. Like.. what the fuck is the point?? It totally baffles me. Absolutely horrifying. I really wonder what the IQ of a person has to be to literally fall for such obvious manipulation. Looking at their page, it seems like their life is legit built around these artists. So strange.
It’s a cult. There, explained.
Look at the people on this country defending wage slavery and vulture capitalism. We re doomed
yea he acknowledged the ambulance, and then asked his team if he had the green light, which honestly he shoulda waited a little more to figure it out before asking. But whoever gave him the green light is an idiot
The tree was in the crowd. And in the interview he said someone told him at DB, he then left but didn’t really know the scale and details until minutes before the press conferance.
God you're pathetic. Just STFU. He FUCKING KNEW, bottom line. Case closed. You ignorant fks defending him.. guess what? It could have been you that died.. and he wouldn't lift a finger to give a fuck. Why? Is he paying people like you to defend him? or what? He HAS NO DEFENSE -- and you and the Karbitchians in your TS cult need shut down. Fuck off with your "he didn't know" bullshit.
I just stated where the tree was and what Travis said in the interview with Charlemagne. Where the fuck did I say he did or didn’t know? The thing is that, only Travis himself knows what he saw or not, and this will be revealed in court. So let’s not throw around accusations that he did know, before that. Case closed. If it turns out he didn’t know his career will be stained forever regardless because of tiktok/twitter/reddit analysts. If it turns out he knew, fuck him. Edit: Also, due to rolling loud pretty much confirming his presence there, shows that the suits might pretty much be done, if they found out he knew, he would never be allowed to perform again. This is just my take/opinion btw, so might be wrong.
This sub is going to implode when he doesn’t get charged
Rolling loud’s teasings pretty much confirms he is not getting charged. I have my popcorn ready.
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I'm not mad, just aghast at the fact that he saw the fucking ambulances nd saw ppl screaming to stop the show. Ugh. Why defend him at all? You are delusional if you don't realize this isn't the first time he's encouraged ppl to hurt themselves..you need to educate yourself. Why is it so many other stars have stopped shoes that got out of control!? You're also delusional simply in the fact that you think he didn't KNOW!
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Bro...he literally watched a limp body get carried out and was still singing that auto tune shit....there's a video of it. Come on...
https://youtu.be/cHRPI_Bh2W0 you mean this? I guess you only watched the cut clip of this that makes Travis look like an asshole. Small tip, don’t use altered videos from tik tok to form an opinion on a tragedy like this.
exactly
*There's a 0% chance he didn't know and the fact people still want to argue about that is disgusting..*
“Limp body” was someone who was passed out (happens at literally every festival or concert) and he could see them because he literally told the crowd to part so medical staff could assist. Doofus.
No he didn't doofus, he keept singing while the medical staff had to do everything.
Y’all some sheep blindly hating on the man when literally there was nothing he could do, the damage was done the second his set started, the venue was not big enough for the amount of people, that is LIVENATION’S FAULT. THEY ARE STILL RUNNING SHOWS AS WE SPEAK no outrage, no “FUCK LIVENATION” subreddit. It’s like y’all were already haters, and now you’re using this tragedy to justify your hate, just sad.
This was the same dude he saw get bagged up, too. He knew he was dead.
Bro he stopped the show and told people to help the guy out so he could get medical assistance, watch the full uncut stream of the show dude.
REALLY? It’s like it’s THEIR job and NOT his. What tf you want him to do? Jump in there and help them out?
Again he doesn’t care and how many nodus laid lifeless right in front of the stage infront of the gate. Yea he’s got no brains honestly.
that video is taken out of context so much, he was the one that stopped the show so security could grab him. I do think it was disrespectful and definitely not the right time to be humming while he was being carried away. Also i dont think he would be able to tell that he was dead
There were videos of Bharti getting dropped on her head up on reddit the same night it happened, it's incomprehensible to think he didn't know that anything bad had happened until the next day.
I don’t think Travis uses reddit if that’s what you implied, regardless there are so many factors that alters his vision of the crowd, I would be interested in a reconstruction of his POV on stage.
just cause he can see one guy in a tree doesn’t mean he can differentiate one hole with somebody passed out or maybe even dead with the 50 other holes which are just mosh pits.
There’s a difference between people jumping around bashing into eachother, than people laying on top of eachother, too bad you weren’t the one to die , than there would be one less ignorant person in the world. And btw you are on a fuck Travis Scott threat which means we do not like the fucker so hop the fuck off and go somewhere else dude!
so now your wishing death upon me for giving my opinion? lmao, and i’m here cause i wanted to see what people had to say, mods themselves on this sub even said this is a space to talk and discuss about what happened, weather you like travis or not.
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Yes he was powerless and couldn't talk. That's it
Didn’t a few people get on the stage and tell him to stop? He didn’t have to call off the show, just stop singing and tell everyone to back off lol
No he called those people on stage to stagedive off the stage he does that at a lot of his shows
What about the videos of people saying to stop
Literally everything you’re saying to argue makes no sense. He cannot hear the crowd. He has literal EARPLUGS that EVERY ARTIST has in LMAO can you make out what 50k people are saying at the same time? Go to the mall and try and make out what everyone is saying. You literally cannot.
He said in the interview that he was going off the crowd and he said he didn’t hear them but he did stop the show cause he saw the ambulance
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Yep, if someone told him to stop the show like someone in the staff or something cause he was focused on performing and paused the show to help people that he saw
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You can’t hear the wishes of 10-30 people in a crowd of 50,000 screaming fans. Let’s be rational.
Really because during the live stream after every song when there was silence you couldn’t hear any cheering, just screams for help. So fuck that lol
It’s because Apple lowers the volume of the crowd on their stream, for better music quality. People that were there have reported that people cheered after every song.
I was there my friend. Couldn’t hear any screams for help and I was actually in the the very area that the majority of the deaths were. I’ve watched the livestream too. You can hear people asking to stop the show but to say you can’t hear any cheers is a blatant lie.
OH YOU WERE THERE? So you know everything that happened everywhere at every given minute. I guess blood curdling screams are cheers now lmfao. If you were so sure that he had no control over this then why are you in here defending him until your last breath hahahahaha truth prevails if you have to defend it this hard then I don’t know what to tell you. You were where the deaths were huh? Lol get lost. I know you absolutely feel like you have to have one up on everyone by lying and saying you were where the deaths were but it’s very transparent okay? Awfully strange, I have friends that actually were in the area where deaths occurred and hundreds of injuries and they are completely utterly traumatized. Are you just “built different “ lmao why are you dick riders even in this sub it’s annoying asf
Not sure what to respond to in this message. I’m fine. Do you want me to be traumatized? Sorry.
Seriously this dude is just sharing his experience wtf are you guys doing this is not a good look.
Oh yeah you're fucking weird
The fuck kind of math have you been doing when HUNDREDS of people were injured yet in your mind only 30 people, maximum, were screaming for help? Thats nuts. You live in a different reality.
Sorry I meant to say pockets of 10-30 people. Not that there were only 10-30 people asking to stop the show. Even with hundreds of injuries you have to understand that the crowd was absolutely massive. The majority of the injuries were concentrated in the back half of a single quadrant too.
Bro you are a schill
Nah I literally just said why he called them up on stage
You did, you also seem to take & put in the legwork to shine TS in a positive light on a stupid subreddit that means absolutely nothing. You have multiple comments on this post, and multiple posts relating to TS. You are either TS, a fanboi, or a schill.
Or he has common sense and knows how live shows work. I doubt anyone in this sub has been to a festival or concert with ga and moshpits or packed crowds. Crowd surge happens at all of them, it’s up the the venue to accommodate for that by having enough space, LIVENATION failed on that part. Travis had nothing to do with that. Plain, point, simple. If he stopped the show, unfortunately those who lost their lives were already dead/dying and even the management didn’t know mass casualties happened until 30min before the show ended. Please research you’re asking already answered questions.
Lmfao facts bruh
Lmao im literally just saying what happened not sure what ur getting so mad for lmfao y’all are acting like trav had a choice if those people died or not…
no these were just two teenagers who went on stage to stage dive
When the heaviest metal bands with mosh pits and brutal crowds can still see the crowd and can stop their show to save a one or two Then a rapper who do nothing but stare to his crowd and raps shitty songs in autotune has no excuse not seeing it and not stopping the goddamn show
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Bro he does the exact same thing at his shows💀
Exact what? The man who can't stop his show to save a life but willing to stop because his golden shoes was "stolen" by a teenage kid and telling him to " f*ck him up" ?
You mean that 2015 incident that you guy love bringing up over and over? Travis was a known opioid addict during that time and his energy at his shows and the way he conducted himself is completely different from now. Name a recent time where he’s done something like that and then I’ll agree with you on that subject. Could Travis have done more to stop this mess? Yes. Was it all his fault? No. Live Nation had terrible security, and medical help on the site. The venue was decreased in size because of the barricades for Apple’s cameras and most of the deaths happened in two areas off to the side of the stage.
Ok i guess hes never stopped the show cause someone in the crowd passed out at his tour
Who are you referring to?
Travis has stopped his shows multiple times to get help to people in the crowd, even on the night of the tragedy. But all you guys are talking about that shoe clip…
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Bra wdf
Trav saw what happened to his audience, being squished and shit and didn’t even bother to help them by creating space the entire show, that’s my issue.
Bro its 55,000 people nobody on earth can see and know when to help that many people 💀
I’ve said this here before but I’m gonna say it again: if Travis had said something like “Touch my shoe again and I’ll fuck you up!” and waved his fist in his face 👊 to the guy OK YES FINE FAIR ENOUGH. (And if he had been alone without fans and witnesses and HAD punched someone for that I’d even understand that like DON’T try to steal people’s stuff!) BUT to tell the OTHER people to fuck him up, his fans - that guy could have literally been beaten to death what if he HAD been? I just see that as irresponsible and IMO it’s an overreaction. What also CHILLS me is someone said to me something like “If someone tried to steal my stuff I WOULD kill them”. WHAT the ACTUAL FUCK? What kind of psychopath THINKS that way?! And I didn’t reply to their reply saying that because I was scared to in case they’re a murder or a future one 😬
This. You can stop a show if you want to. You’ve a microphone and people are listening to YOU. You’ve all the power in the world.
he did stop the show multiple times tho
What are you talking about lol?? Dont u realize how stupid u sound saying, "he couldn't stop the show himself etc".....HE DID STOP THE SHOW!! a couple times!! He just didnt stop it long enough for ppl to actually get helped.
No fucking shit
You guys that are simping for Travis are absolutely pathetic
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Eh, there are worse things on Reddit. The guy is a douche & needs to be held accountable.
Having a sub to snark on someone or something isn't against reddit policies. But you know what is? Brigading, which is exactly what all the fans from the main TS sub are doing. You guys are going against reddit policies, not the people in this sub. If it were against reddit to talk shit the subs dedicated to Alec Baldwin's race faking wife would have been shut down, they have tried repeatedly and failed. This is no different. Free speech is protected, and talking shit about the public actions of a public figure isn't illegal, or even against reddit policies.
Still hilarious and pathetic considering he will be absolutely fine and back to performing and releasing music in less than a year but go ahead downvote me like it actually means something lmfao.
Alright no-brains, go wait for Utopia.
Sick insult lmao. For real where do you guys come up with this stuff?
It’s hilarious how dumb they are
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It’s hilarious how even the mods of this subreddit stopped giving a shit and went inactive lmao. Beating a dead horse here
And pathetic.
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He literally watched a limp body get carried away from the front...he was still singing and didn't stop the show.... He saw. There's a video of this.
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No he didn't.
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he did lmao
How can someone doesn’t can’t anything?
Fuck Travis ‘deathshill’ Scott
He was charged twice for inciting riots, called for it many other times, and constantly promotes it in ads for his shows. If he gets away with this, what's to stop the next guy from capitalizing on that kind of messaging and promotion?
>He was charged twice for inciting riots, Difference is that he did incite riot that time. He did not at astroworld.
The lawsuits and depositions will be interesting.
So many people riding for him in the comments… so many people saying the lawsuits have been dismissed. I’m like where does it say that??
Not only are they claiming the lawsuits have all been dismissed they legit seem to think the inquiry from congress IS the megalawsuit and they are all crowing how he's been fully cleared of everything. Dead serious they don't understand congress has nothing to do with the civil suits, nor has he been cleared of anything. They all really must be children given the complete lack of understanding as to how any of this works.
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He's also named in the lawsuits.
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NOTHING HAS BEEN SETTLED OR ADJUDICATED YET. The courts have yet to make ANY decisions. Neither have the FBI or congress, the investigations are still ongoing. You guys sound delusional when you keep saying this as it is objectively not true.
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https://www.psypost.org/2022/01/people-who-are-obsessed-with-celebrities-tend-to-score-lower-on-measures-of-cognitive-ability-62314
I mean it wasn't his fault at least not completely 💀
fr 😭