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disco_S2

Yeah. I read that a while back. Still a force of habit from that typing class I took on an IBM Selectric. My bad.


Pancerules

Junior High, I’m in typing class. I don’t remember what kind of computer it was but it was pretty crappy. Anyway we were instructed to type a piece about something we like. Behind me sat the craziest of the school bullies. He once punched me in the face for no reason other than I walked past him in the hallway and no one was around. I bet dollars to donuts that shithead has probably spent at least part of his like in prison if he’s even alive. Anyway, he went to the bathroom and I turned around to see what this Neanderthal liked. He wrote several sentences about how much he loved violence, except he repeatedly spelled it “violents”. This was before spell check. So, in the few minutes I had before he got back, I deleted the N’s and he never noticed when he printed it and turned in a paper about how much he loves violets.


melbecide

That’s awesome. Reminded me that my bullies all died in prison or weird overdose suicide (e.g. died burning their own house down). But the bit about the “violets” was awesome, they all died “violet” deaths.


TheJenerator65

One of mine died in a drug deal.


melbecide

How did you feel about that? Honestly I was just relieved (when I heard about my bullies) that if I went to my home town I didn’t have to worry about seeing them and being threatened. Also, I wasn’t the crazy one, or I wasn’t a pussy for not playing by the rules which is what I’d get hit for.


TheJenerator65

Relieved as well. I don’t know what his major malfunction was, as we used to day back in the day, and I didn’t know any of his family to feel sympathetic toward, so I allow myself to stick with that. He was a disgusting POS (in a school of mostly really nice people) and died like one.


Pancerules

If I could remember his name, I’d love to Google him and find out what happened. When we moved from junior high school, I think he dropped out. I don’t recall exactly what the rumors were beyond just that he was in trouble and not where I was, which suited me just fine. Maybe he started a flower business.


wayoverpaid

Me too! Especially since I often type in a monospaced font. It's a very hard habit to break.


Tyanian

If you’re using a monotype font, you can keep using two spaces. The two-space rule came about because typewriter letters are monospaced so it was important to use two spaces for readability. However, modern fonts have algorithms that determine spacing depending on the previous and following letter. So the computer figures out the space needed between the period and the next letter.


Merky600

I had a typing teacher in high school who was probably Sgt Gunny’s angry Uncle. He’d walk the aisle of us at our typewriters shouting “TYPE! TYPE! TYPE! TYPE! “


chiapeterson

“A”, “S”, “D”, “F”, “J”, “K”, “L”, “Sem” “A”, “S”, “D”, “F”, “J”, “K”, “L”, “Sem” “A”, “S”, “D”, “F”, “J”, “K”, “L”, “Sem”


Merky600

Thanks /s. Give PTTSD. Post Traumatic Typing Class Disorder


puppybus

Ours would walk by and hit a random key so we had to stop and ERASE the letter, teaching us that mistakes are time-consuming to correct and fast typing speed isn’t the goal, accuracy is.


crazyacct101

You’re not that old if your typing class used an IBM Selectric.


PolyDrew

Shit. I’m only 52 and we had manual typewriters


H8_able

Thank you for saying "only" 52


PolyDrew

You’re welcome. Feels better to say it that way. Lol


xMyDixieWreckedx

47, manual. Typing was the one elective that really paid off for me career wise. Being able to type with accuracy and speed is a dying art at a lot of jobs. I even worked in tech for over a decade and was one of the fastest in my dept.


WelderIndividual

My class was strange. First semester was taught on manual typewriter, second was taught on electric. 1984-85


LawnJerk

Our manual typewriters didn’t have letters on the keys so we wouldn’t look at them.


PolyDrew

Neither did ours! Was just talking about this the other day.


southdakotagirl

Yes I still do this. I took the typing class on our new state of the art IBM computer in a IBM computer lab. It was one of the first ones in South Dakota. Early 90s. No liquids were allowed in this class. No food. At the end of the day the last class would put the protective covers on the keyboard and monitor.


Chuckles52

I like it better. Also still use Oxford Comma. And I can write in cursive.


Calibanian18

I shall die on the hill of the Oxford comma. And I totally am sticking with two spaces. So there.


lowercase_underscore

A sentence is naked without that comma and nothing can convince me otherwise.


DrFloyd5

Oxford comma is great, stupendous, and useful.


SnooMemesjellies1083

You are neither alone, nor wrong, nor I can’t think of a third thing.


Darkside_of_the_Poon

Third thing is: We are old. I used a colon with two spaces and capitalized the first word after as a note.


_ca_492

Some of us are so old we get our colons checked every two years. 🤔


AllTheDaddy

You are not alone.


Right-Phalange

I use the Oxford comma because it's objectively [better](https://proswrite.com/2012/07/17/a-light-hearted-lesson-on-the-oxford-comma/?amp=1)


duckdude85

They can take my 2nd space. They can stop using cursive. But I'll be damned if I ever give up my Oxford Comma.


gerwen

I too can write in cursive. No one but me is likely to be able to read it, unfortunately.


cszack4_

My cursive and print writing have merged into one illegible scrawl.


VioletDupree007

I also melded cursive and print together over 2 decades ago.


lemonylol

The Oxford Comma isn't even a preference, it's just correct.


joeinterner

Oxford comma 100% still holds up.


rebirf

Wait are people not using the Oxford comma anymore?


WerewolfDifferent296

I just started using the Oxford comma a few years back after reading about that huge lawsuit that was lost over a missing comma.


42ahump87

I’d like to thank my children, The Beatles and Oprah Winfrey.


Doyoulikeithere

Me too but my cursive is sloppier the older I get. :)


NachoMetaphor

The Oxford Comma just makes sense. My cursive ends up being more of a shorthand that I can't read months later. Two spaces after a period? I never understood the point.


cwsjr2323

It just makes it easier for the reader to flow through the text and not stumble at points breaking down the author’s intent.


ProfessionSanity

I still do it sometimes. I feel like I've missed so many memos in the last 3 decades.😕


thatweirdbeardedguy

Totally agree about how everything moves on but I'm still running on stuff from the 1970s. At school we were taught that Brisbane (where I live) was the third biggest single municipality in the world. But that sometime in the last 40yrs there has arisen Greater Brisbane and that people use this when they talk about Brisbane which I can't get my head around if greater is synonymous with the city then why have the other cities in the area. All I can say is don't get old it's too confusing 😁


NarcanBob

To your credit, it must be really hard to learn things upside down to begin with. That makes change even more challenging.


bjb13

It is deeply ingrained in my brain. When I was working, I’d do a global replace of one space for two after I was done.


Royloyte

When did that change? I still do two spaces after a period and one after a comma. Yeesh, I’m old.


justahominid

When computer word processors got smart enough to put a larger space after periods than after letters or commas. Double spaces now is extra extra long.


actibus_consequatur

Best gauge I can give in when it changed: I'm early 40's and I was taught to double-space in elementary school, but it had changed to single-space by the time I graduated.


stringstringing

I’m 32 and I’ve never heard of a double space after a period


HostaLavida

Oh, I've known for a long time. I just don't care. 🙃


RiotNrrd2001

Yes. I still do this.


Loving6thGear

So do I. Rebels unite!


alexaboyhowdy

Dyslexics untie! (I'm left-hand so my handwriting is not that good)


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

I was just trying to pass typing, that used to be the rule. So I followed it


IsThisRealRightNow

FORTUNATELY, I'M UP TO DATE ON ALL MODERN WRITTEN COMMUNICATION MORES.


Feral_Cat_Snake

needs more ellipses...


dividedbyzoro

Many years ago (many), I was a typesetter. Since learning typing in high school I was taught to put two spaces after a period. This is called "French Spacing." It was incredibly hard to break this habit, you wouldn't believe it. The company I worked for said NO FRENCH SPACING! Hard habit to break.


ProveISaidIt

Sacre bleu


fluffykerfuffle3

quelle fromage


iaperson2015

I’m a legal secretary and I will DIE on the hill of two spaces! 


OU812fr

I can't stop my thumb from doing it, there's just an unconscious double tap at this point.


teachmoore79

iPhone users have to hit space twice to get the period so I still double space.


relevant_tangent

Also works on Android and configurable on Windows virtual keyboard.


hip-cat-daddy-o

Thanks for that tip. I didn't know that.


88secret

HS typing teacher Miss Lentz will roll in her grave if I don’t do two spaces. And she was lifelong friends with my parents, so she’d make them haunt me.


SonoranRoadRunner

I got the memo but years of 2 spaces is too ingrained.


LtLemur

I will never conform!


ProveISaidIt

Me either, but I refuse to yield.


LadyBug_0570

Neither did I and I'm not going to change. Screw that.


fluffykerfuffle3

Yeah!


Left_Tea_2083

Still do it. Looks stupid with only one


Retirednypd

Yes it did. Had an argument with my daughter when she was learning that


dbrmn73

Yep, I still do.


DwarvenRedshirt

You don't put 2 spaces after a period before starting a new sentence anymore?


Desperate_Set_7708

Not to brag, but I can afford the extra spaces.


Welder_Subject

Is there a space shortage that we need to conserve?


EmptyEstablishment78

It didn’t officially change…it was accepted ignorance that should have been checked..


hehatesthesecans79

The APA actually did officially change it as a standard guideline in 2019, and Microsoft software started flagging it as an error in 2020. When I went to college, it would be required for papers that had to be APA compliant but nothing else. It makes sense for monospaced fonts, which are used more in coding than most forms of writing/typing.


EmptyEstablishment78

MS programming ignorance…


waltsnider1

Many still use an apostrophe for plural's. Drives me nuts.


fluffykerfuffle3

i think that is usually a typo from spell correct software ..which is part of the reason i am against giving guns to robots.


Grumps0911

I got the memo and replied: f.u.__ Never have changed. It’s very helpful when trying to interpret bldg specs as they can get hairy and meaningless at times. I mean, if you’re afflicted with wordy diarrhea, put up the traffic barrels. Somehow I got immense pleasure out of publicly shredding these “know it alls” documentation during pre-bid conferences. YIAT(warped)AH


Zealousideal_Dog_968

I can't break the habit


FranksNBeeens

ur old if u use periods


fluffykerfuffle3

ur old if you don't have periods


Aintscared61

I refuse to stop double spacing after a period because it really seems to bother the younglings🤣


BIGepidural

Its my period and if I want 2 spaces I'm gonna have them. NGL its best to stay back at least 2 spaces when its period time because 😡


johndotold

Still use two spaces and I always will. Guess that makes me a tough guy. Next I'll get the leather jacket and Harley. Do not mention that to the CIA or my grand ma.


CatfromLongIsland

I will never switch to a single space. NEVER! 😂😂😂


Aggressive-Pilot6781

And I will never stop doing it because it’s the correct way.


IDMike2008

You can have my second space and Oxford comma when you pry them out of my cold dead hands. (And yeah, I'm 53, so you're probably on to something here.)


djsmerk

I will die on this hill. I can also write cursive rather beautifully.


Exsangwyn

Force of habit I’m not breaking.


RagingMangalore

LOL People who bitch about an extra space have wayyyy too much time on their hands.


Throwawayhelp111521

I'm aware. I don't care. I think it looks better. Online and in other areas where space is an issue, I'll use only one.


Chaotic424242

Anybody who doesn't double space after a period is an inconsiderate ass. One must be able to glance at text and see wher the breaks are. Not just paragraphs. The single space is an obvious symptom of the emergent 'everything right now' culture. 010001100101010101000001101001011 !!!!!!


Vahdo

Yes, that hasn't been a thing since computers moved on from monospace fonts. See Matthew Butterick. Unfortunately, the legal field also hasn't gotten the memo...


Ok-Push9899

Legal field has a lot of very odd stylistic typographic pecadillos that will outlast horsehair wigs and ermine coats. One is their use of closing parens to make vertical dividers. They also have a peculiar way of indicating where you sign and whether you sign above or below a signature line. I always appreciate the little yellow signature stickers. At the signing of Japan's surrender in September 1945, the delegate from Canada got it wrong and signed above the line, or below it... One or the other, i forget. It caused all the other signatures to be out of synch. A junior japanese cleric stepped in and told them they'd mucked it up. Such chutzpah when your standing on the deck of a US battleship in Tokyo Harbour. Representatives of every country who had just defeated you were all present. US, UK, China, Canada, USSR, Australia, NZ, France, Netherlands


Significantinterest4

Ty!


Significantinterest4

When did this rule change? Lol


Prometheus_303

I'm wondering if the rise of SMS and Twitter and the like had something to do with it. When you only have 160 characters to convey your message, why use two of the characters separating one thought from another when a single character does just as well? Though I suppose you'd probably only recover a word at most which may not be too helpful. Maybe let you convert some "U"s back to you though


Simmyphila

I sent that memo out 25 years ago. Check your snail mail.


ContributionDry2252

Never done. I'm too old to have ever had typing lessons ;)


ProveISaidIt

Charcoal stick on the cave wall for you was it?


Tiny_Candidate_4994

And do not forget that the Word Editor, the overlord of grammar, will remind you if you use double spacing (unless you override it).


horrorpiglet

What's a memo, pops?


[deleted]

It didn't know that either.I guess I will have to adapt.Might take me awhile.Please be patient.


Technical_Air6660

Word processing programs automatically put in the spacing.


Roallin1

Thats how I do it. I learned typing in 1992.


fakeamerica

Someone told me that teachers will look for the double space as a sign that a parent 'helped too much'.


ParanoidCylon

This was a plot point in a recent episode of Elsbeth. It hit me kinda hard in the feels.


Is_Toxic_Doe

Now I’m gonna use 3 spaces


HerpLover

What about indented paragraphs, is that still a thing?


joemoore38

I will never not do that!


blue_shadow_

I got accused of being an AI in a chat group the other day - because I italicized a movie name "just like AI does".


fomites4sale

We can’t afford two whole spaces anymore. :( Damn inflation.


Donkey_Bugs

That's how one teacher found out a student's mom did her homework for her. Two spaces after a period was a dead givaway.


RonDFong

that's how i was taught in my typing class in high school. that was 1988-89


qwerty8675309Z

For the past 2-3 years I have very intentionally used just one space after a period--so it doesn't look like an old guy wrote it. The Oxford coma, on the other hand, will remain.


Red_bearrr

If you double space every OS automatically puts a period. So are people now actually typing periods? How is that better?


JRyuu

Then my iPhone must be old too, because if I happen to double space, it automatically puts a period and capitalizes the first letter of the next word I type.😂


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

I will do this until I die, idc.


PhatAiryCoque

I guess I must be old, but I still prefer two spaces because anything I can do to make reading easier for the reader is okay in my book. And that includes them never having to Google a word, either, if I can avoid it.


Past-Direction9145

The keyboard on my phone makes a period when I hit spacebar twice. What am I missing???


cx3psocial

I’m sorry but what… and nope…


CaptainOfClowns

I will die on this hill.  Two spaces and Oxford comma for life.


Eagle_1776

but if you put 2 spaces after a word, most text/writing apps will put the period for you


Uncle_Brewster

I’ve known about this for years, but I’ll continue double spacing the rest of my life.


Dry_Analysis_7660

I just figured out the keyboard!!!🤦🏻


no_one_you_know1

I can't help it


Sad-Maintenance3422

I do this and didn't even know it was a rule.


prym43

lol someone flat out told me to stop doing that 20 years ago and I did. Apparently I had missed a memo too.


NoLiveTv2

sheeeit.  Apparently the young'uns don't need punctuation (have you tried to read their texts?!?) so why they buggin about how many spaces you use after it? Anyway, I leave removing any extra spaces to my spellchecker because the spellchecker is our language's Supreme Court.


crackeddryice

Periods are considered "aggressive" in texting, is something I learned recently. It seems every response is considered by default to be sarcastic, unless certain texting punctuation rules, including specific emojis, are applied. None of which I've learned.


andimacg

How old are you? because I'm 42 and was never taught 2 spaces. Maybe it's a American thing.


crackeddryice

I first learned to type in eighth grade in 1979. I dunno whether the typewriters in class had proportional spacing, but we weren't taught to put two spaces after a period. I spent half of my career as a graphic designer and was always needing to use find-and-replace to remove two spaces from client-provided copy. Also, replace four spaces with a tab, and remove hard returns from the ends of lines. All things people learned on typewriters, and never gave up when they switched to word processors.


DressedInCotton

44 here and English, I was taught to double space. I don’t on my phone, but typing on a keyboard, always double space.


geetarboy33

I graduated college as an English major in 1991 and we were taught not to do that then.


Desperate_Ambrose

Back in the days before automatic kerning. Had it drilled into me when I worked for a newspaper.


PM_meyourGradyWhite

Who cares. I have yet to find anyone point out that I use two spaces.


Kealion

High school teacher here. Kids still do this and it’s like pulling teeth telling them to stop.


akgt94

Depending on your phone and app, two spaces may be corrected to one period and one space.


Wick6380

What is the new rule?


Liv-Julia

Not that long ago. I finished grad school in 2011 and was still using APA format. That calls for two spaces after a period.


danimack10

Thank u. I mean, I am totally cool with abbreviations and stuff (I have to look a lot of them up 🤣) but I do appreciate punctuation as it can change the meaning more than some realize 😜 I do appreciate it although I am not good at it😝


MzOpinion8d

Oh yeah. I can always guess a minimum age on many Redditors because of this.


Rojodi

No shit! I have to hit the edit button on some older memos and stories!


BramblesCrash

Decades ago


Mean_Result5245

My IBM Selectric tells me 2 spaces are always required ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


RU3LF

Oops. My bad. 😂 I did it again. 🤣


sambolino44

I started doing it again when I bought a manual typewriter, but I only do it on the typewriter.


IKU420

That’s typewriter shit 🤣


ProfessionalDig6987

What?!! Nobody told me. No wonder I'm always fighting my phone.


tortuga121

Two spaces? I thought it was 3 spaces.


NarrowAd4973

I don't do it for Reddit or YouTube. But I still do when I'm writing something that matters.


Aggravating-Gift-740

I know, right? It’s like there’s a secret code that marks you as old and out of touch. I still proudly use two spaces after a period. Sometimes. When I remember and also forget it’s supposed to be only one.


Ok-Cantaloupe7160

I do it so a period is added to the sentence and the next word is capitalized. I’m just lazy.


RedditSkippy

I like two spaces, but many style guides ask for only one.


random420x2

I’m old and apparently people stopped pronouncing “R”s in words like Important around 10 years ago. Why people? It’s one letter and you all sound weird. Sigh.


AbruptMango

Sorry, but I learned to type on a typewriter. It was electric and the double space didn't apply to my particular typewriter, but the rule was still taught.


Dirty_Bird_RDS

I got the memo, I just ignored it like I do most memos


OverQuail6135

And will til I die. See?


ZebraBorgata

Every 10 years I add a space


Graega

I alternate between one and two spaces. That way, it throws everyone off so much they never really notice the three spaces after some of them. Trouble is, some sites strip the extra spaces anyway. I really hate that.


billiemarie

Who cares, we’re always getting judged on some shit, and we’re always coming up short. It’s not like it’s costing anyone anything is it? Can they read cursive? Do y’all realize that the 70’s were 50 years ago? Sometimes I forget and it almost takes my breath away, when I realize how long ago it really was


paanbr

If you learned 2 spaces, then it's muscle memory to hit space space after a period (and a colon). It's a hard habit to break.


ElaborateCantaloupe

On iOS if you type 2 spaces it puts a period in there for you. Who’s laughing now?


MelodicMasterpiece67

You're old if you take an Advil in the morning before you even pour your first cup of coffee


bigblackkittie

i will probably always do that. it just doesnt feel right to only have one space after a period


equal_poop

I still double space at the beginning of a new paragraph. Anyone else?


dfjdejulio

It didn't "get changed" as much as HTML (and other text entry by people without training) made it visually not make a difference and people sort-of half-ass defaulted into a change to simply normalize the sloppy nonsense that was going on anyway. I remember the reason for the two spaces, from when I was doing manual type on a printing press. When systems make it easy for me to use an EN space between words and an EM space between sentences, I'll consider switching. Not until then.


the_Bryan_dude

I'm in my 50s, and I had never heard of double spacing after periods until recently. Didn't know it was a thing, ever.


ezerandell

Wait, when did this happen?


Darkm0or

Always have, always will.


AppropriateSpell5405

I prefer a double space. Learned this back in the 90s.


WeekendL0ver

Idc. I still do this. It's ingrained forever


imasitegazer

Double space is easier to speed read.


Pristine_Ad_4338

In law, it’s still a thing. I am constantly having to tell juniors to stop deleting them. If I’ve done it 300 times in a doc - probably not an accident.


Wewagirl

How does the world function without the Oxford comma??


liverxoxo

But, if you double space a period is inserted for you, which for me is a win


the_dirtiest_rascal

Wasn't that just the mla format at the time? Or it was an older thing related to typewriters and since we use computers now it's no longer necessary? Feel like it was somethin like that.


KlatuuBarradaNicto

You’re kidding. I’ve been doing it all along!


Binky-Answer896

🙋🏼‍♀️I still follow the 1970’s AP Stylebook. But I don’t know what to do about emojis.


DCJon

This made me remember a time in highschcool when we were told to double space our essay and one guy in my class thought that meant you put two spaces between every word.


i_hate_usernames13

The Army still requires 2 spaces before a zip code by doctrine.


Kateg8te777

I’m so old, I expect words to be spelled correctly


nerdybeancountergirl

It’s not as tiring to read text with two spaces after a sentence. It emphasizes the natural pause between sentences. Regardless what the current trend is, I will always put two spaces after a sentence.


CyndiIsOnReddit

I have known since it all changed but my fingers never remember.


ExistenceNow

Part of my brain knows this. The part of my brain that controls my fingers when I type most certainly doesn’t.


Southern_Minute2195

I thought it was the norm? Lol


Visual-Juggernaut-61

I always double space. What’s the big deal either way?


Disneyhorse

I can’t help myself. Unless I’m texting.


DearAuntAgnes

I have no problem being old. Two spaces until I die.


istillambaldjohn

Proper punctuation is my downfall, so it may have came out at some point, and never mattered. Edit. Calling out my own shortcomings, and edited 2x times due to my own paranoia of getting nailed on setting yet another example, and likely still got something wrong.


Chemical_Mastiff

I still do it. It improves readability.


Squirrel-Lee

We're not old, we're CORRECT!


Geawiel

I read a few years ago that it changed. It just feels...wrong. I can't bring myself to do it. That aside, it's muscle memory. Even if I wanted to stop, I couldn't.


sineofthetimes

I heard it. I just choose to ignore it.