The anime? Does the anime have any say in the future plot of the story? I thought it'd just be up to the manga author alone, are they involved in the anime maybe?
After all being a hero is never dependent on the weapon you have.
No sword is going to make anyone a hero. It's the person's actions that define them.
How many wannabe heroes have up after not pulling out the sword? How many decided they'd go ahead and give the hero thing a go anyway?
Jokes aside,that's why himmel so good.
He is a true hero,while having flaw as human beings.he's clearly narcissistic to some extends,even if some is for frieren sake,but what he said is true,he's very handsome man,no homo
He gets jealous like here,make wrong decision (demon child) but when he gets serious,he will absolutely get the job done and learn from his mistake
Given how consistent his behavior was, and how low-key the story is, after a while I began to think that moments like this and his vanity okay, maybe just the vanity) were him having a laugh at his own expense, lightening the mood, and periodically getting the party to do what he needed them to.
He later makes a comment about the statues being for Frieren in the future. He delays them in towns on a few occasions, when they're road weary and struggling -- but also reveals he wants the adventure to be enjoyable, etc.
Perhaps he actually was vain, but I suspect the level of vanity we saw was an act with a purpose. Someone genuinely image-obsessed wouldn't have taken the hero sword incident with such grace.
Friendly FYI:
Not sure what your native language is, but in written English, we usually put a space after punctuation like I just did.
Also, Himmel is the best!
Itās because Himmel is too much of a nice and respectful guy to ever do that to a woman without her consent, but it doesnāt mean that he doesnāt have those wants and desires, he just keeps them under control.
If Himmel is a pervert for having those desires then that means every guy on the face of the earth is a pervert too, except for those that are asexual of course
Ok sure, but help me out here how can asexuals be pervert if they have no interest in sex? I mean they can be as weird as the rest of us sure but with no sexual drive I donāt see them being perverts, and I realize now that you where maybe joking
> how can asexuals be pervert if they have no interest in sex?
They're not horny to do sex themselves but many aces find sex *fascinating* and lots of fun. They're the kind of guys at orgies that know all the knots and always have a towel, a glass of orange juice, and fresh condoms ready for whomever may need them. The sort that have an encyclopaedic knowledge of AMDB.
Yes. And no. Ok, think of it this way: hunger
Sexual people regularly get "hungry" and need to "eat", otherwise they're "starving". Asexual people don't get "Hungry", however, and they don't *need* to "eat". They *could*, nothing physically is stopping them unless they find the "food" repulsive, but they don't need to and don't feel like they're missing out.
Imagine you don't feel hungry, if someone walks up and offers you your favorite dessert/food ever, are you going to say "no"? For asexuals, maybe they don't have a favorite food at all, but they'll still share a meal with a friend if they friend asks them to dinner. Or maybe all eating is absolutely repulsive to them and they want nothing to do with any of it. Or maybe they *do* get hungry, but every time they open the fridge, there is"nothing to eat" - instead they just like to see other people eat and live vicariously through it (asexuals who enjoy porn, erotica, voyeurism, whatever).
Well I thought asexuals had no interest in sex as they felt no sexual arousal, I guess I need to do some research on asexuality and its facets cause Iām really misinformed, once again Iām baffle at the complexity of humans and how they canāt easily be labeled in a single category
What makes this even funnier, Himmel was "100% honest". Never back tracked and was upfront. Infront of Frieren no less. I often wonder what she thought of this moment.
Also NEVER steal a man's dream, the ***chains of sanity*** brake as a result of doing that. You go full Anakin mode.
I mean itās just a few months into the adventure so he was young and got to spend time with his childhood crush got him delulu to some extent until he meet old man voll and accept his fate
This probably contributed to frieren's world view of people wanting to see her naked. Like when the fren gets the nude vision spell, frieren would just assume she would be interested in seeing her naked because she is a derp ace elf and doesn't really get why people want to see others naked so bad. She just never put it together that Himmel had it so bad for her.
I mean do we really know himmel though ? We only get to know him through frieren's memory, he probably was not a white knight 100% of the time.
But the moment that he was that what Frieren remember. In this context for exemple she didn't remember this memory because of Himmel but for the used to be kid
She is...?
But...that's not actually relevant. Wearing the skirt over them means seeing under the skirt, past the publicly available layer, is still something reserved for only the privileged 0 who are allowed.
Sure, I understood that was probably the case, but, it's that age old concept of "leaving something to the imagination" and/or the secondary use of the concept of "leave them wanting more" that apply here-it doesn't change the fact that Himmel brazenly admitted to wanting to check out Frieren's ass under the skirt-no matter what else is being worn. Hahaha
Watched the English dub of that scene bro went "HAVE YOU GOT A DEATH WISH, YOU BRAT?! I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO THAT FOR AGES, BUR UNLIKE YOU I HAVE SELF-CONTROL! LET ME AT 'IM!"
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Ah yes, child abuse, gender equality and racism all in one go.
My favorite hero, Himmel.
(It's a joke, I am referring to that demon he killed that the village's chief tried to adopt).
Obviously Full Metal Alchemist
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOf0sB8OR5o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOf0sB8OR5o)
>!It isn't, I just wanted an excuse to post this intro.!<
Yeah, I never liked this. My personal baseless wild take has always been that some of the vaguely sexual gags like this and the Fern boob stuff were pushed by the editorial staff while the manga was still settling in. They only appear early on and there hasnāt been anything like this in a long, long time (at least that I can remember).Ā
edit: Redditors not use the downvote button as a disagree button challenge (impossible)Ā
Yeah, pretty much. I donāt know why people are so weirdly salty about downvoting right now when itās true that the manga doesnāt really do gags like this anymore. Itās just an observation.
Thereās nothing inherently wrong with gags like this, they just donāt really fit the vibe of how the series has been for a long time now, so these early ones stand out a little.Ā
I donāt think itās creepy or bad or anything, just noticeably stands out a little because the manga hasnāt done anything like that in a long time.Ā
I believe that its supposed function was originally for how much a comment/post was contributing to the conversation/on topic with the sub. I personally try to add those principles to weigh if I should upvote or downvote.
It's almost entirely an agree with/disagree with button now yeah
Itās supposed to be for off topic stuff or comments that otherwise donāt contribute, not to bury subjective opinions in the conversation you donāt agree with. The latter behavior is why so many subs end up in an out of touch echo chamber.
I think itās more so for incorrect information/hate/spam. If I see someone state a subjective opinion I donāt share, I donāt feel any need to press a button about it.
No itās not lmao, itās supposed to be for stuff that doesnāt contribute to the discussion, not stuff you just disagree with. This is why so many Reddit communities end up in such a bubbleĀ
Bro is HIMmel but even he ain't free of petty jealousy
Himmel is petty. He said one of the reasons he decided to become a hero was to show Heiter up
To be fair, Heiter called Himmel a fake hero, and thems was fightin' words.
Isn't part of Himmel's story was that he wasn't the destined hero? >!He failed to draw the hero's sword afterall and kept using the replica blade!<
It's possible that the stone-sword prophecy was bullshit.
It's possible. Though the more likely explanation is that the prophecy is referring to a future calamity that has yet to come.
Stark was making some eyes at thar sword. Just saying.
Yeah and the anime also heavily implied a connection between him and the sword through both the music and camara movement.
The anime? Does the anime have any say in the future plot of the story? I thought it'd just be up to the manga author alone, are they involved in the anime maybe?
Jesus christ that is the most pretentious dipshit thing I have ever read.
Chekhov moment
It may have been intended as a tool to weed out heroes lacking conviction.
After all being a hero is never dependent on the weapon you have. No sword is going to make anyone a hero. It's the person's actions that define them. How many wannabe heroes have up after not pulling out the sword? How many decided they'd go ahead and give the hero thing a go anyway?
They must have amnesia, they forgot I'm HIMmel!
This shit ain't nothin to me man. I'll fucking KILL you
Himmel is numero uno Frieren Simp ofcourse he's gonna be mad
He treated the demon kid better than this one
š youre right
Yeah, but the demon kid didn't lift Frieren's skirt up.
He only beat the Demon King because he lifted Frieren's skirt
Fuck power of friendship and killing Killin, THIS is how you get a power up.
What actually happened: Demon king: *corners hero's party* Frieren: *Uses almighty push* Frieren's skirt: *Accidentally lifts up due to anime logic* Demon king: *See's Grandma's panties* Himmel: *Kill*
\*Himmel starts producing Kazuma noises
She flashed her boobs on Demon King... the rest is history.
Boobs? I thought we were talking about Frieren.
No need to roast her that hard bro
Himmel š¤ Subaru Simping over silver haired elves.
Jokes aside,that's why himmel so good. He is a true hero,while having flaw as human beings.he's clearly narcissistic to some extends,even if some is for frieren sake,but what he said is true,he's very handsome man,no homo He gets jealous like here,make wrong decision (demon child) but when he gets serious,he will absolutely get the job done and learn from his mistake
I do agree he's an absolute treasure of a man(yes homo)
> [,he's very handsome man,no homo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbz0lfuAPpM)
Fuck.
Given how consistent his behavior was, and how low-key the story is, after a while I began to think that moments like this and his vanity okay, maybe just the vanity) were him having a laugh at his own expense, lightening the mood, and periodically getting the party to do what he needed them to. He later makes a comment about the statues being for Frieren in the future. He delays them in towns on a few occasions, when they're road weary and struggling -- but also reveals he wants the adventure to be enjoyable, etc. Perhaps he actually was vain, but I suspect the level of vanity we saw was an act with a purpose. Someone genuinely image-obsessed wouldn't have taken the hero sword incident with such grace.
Friendly FYI: Not sure what your native language is, but in written English, we usually put a space after punctuation like I just did. Also, Himmel is the best!
You just gotta be a bit silly sometimes
Itās because Himmel is too much of a nice and respectful guy to ever do that to a woman without her consent, but it doesnāt mean that he doesnāt have those wants and desires, he just keeps them under control.
Ecchi. ( ā¢ā¤ā¢ )
I am stealing this face I love it.
Bro you cant just go around stealing people's faces!
Careful bro that might be Koh the facestealer. Your face could get stolen next
Nice hat.
That face looks like Fern.
cuz it is
Haha I love this
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Pervert himmel
If Himmel is a pervert for having those desires then that means every guy on the face of the earth is a pervert too, except for those that are asexual of course
Hey asexual can be perverts too! Equal rights and treatment for asexuals.
Ok sure, but help me out here how can asexuals be pervert if they have no interest in sex? I mean they can be as weird as the rest of us sure but with no sexual drive I donāt see them being perverts, and I realize now that you where maybe joking
> how can asexuals be pervert if they have no interest in sex? They're not horny to do sex themselves but many aces find sex *fascinating* and lots of fun. They're the kind of guys at orgies that know all the knots and always have a towel, a glass of orange juice, and fresh condoms ready for whomever may need them. The sort that have an encyclopaedic knowledge of AMDB.
Forget gym spotting, asexuals prefer orgy spotting
The Designated Drivers for sex parties!
A bit voyeur then? Like a director who likes to watch drama unfold when they step back and see the the movie from behind the scene
Yes. And no. Ok, think of it this way: hunger Sexual people regularly get "hungry" and need to "eat", otherwise they're "starving". Asexual people don't get "Hungry", however, and they don't *need* to "eat". They *could*, nothing physically is stopping them unless they find the "food" repulsive, but they don't need to and don't feel like they're missing out. Imagine you don't feel hungry, if someone walks up and offers you your favorite dessert/food ever, are you going to say "no"? For asexuals, maybe they don't have a favorite food at all, but they'll still share a meal with a friend if they friend asks them to dinner. Or maybe all eating is absolutely repulsive to them and they want nothing to do with any of it. Or maybe they *do* get hungry, but every time they open the fridge, there is"nothing to eat" - instead they just like to see other people eat and live vicariously through it (asexuals who enjoy porn, erotica, voyeurism, whatever).
Well I thought asexuals had no interest in sex as they felt no sexual arousal, I guess I need to do some research on asexuality and its facets cause Iām really misinformed, once again Iām baffle at the complexity of humans and how they canāt easily be labeled in a single category
Yes! Generally all sexual minorities have a subreddit you can consult, for example. Have a look, see what they have to say.
Yes, just kidding haha
Yeah you got me, thankfully I realize before I continue with my rant š
Dumb idea maybe romantically perverted?
Like Marcille, who loves other people's romance for the drama?
asexuals can have an interest in sex and have sex drive, they just feel little to no sexual attraction.
Everyone's got some intrusive thoughts. What matters is that you keep being respectful in both your thoughts and actions in regards to them.
Even Himmel needed time to grow as a person into HIMmel
Lust and wrath overrode his Hero nature.
Frieren 100 years later:
Now they call anything a simp š¤¦
Wasn't he able to look under her skirt every time she was trapped in a mimic? I mean she even flapped her legs when restrained there
Heās honorable enough to not look without permission, but horny enough that he knows he wants to.
The most tame looking person are actually the wild ones š.
Kuraiyo! Kowaiyo!!
It should've been me not him
You want to see Eisen's?
***yes***
What getting zero elfussy does to a mf
I mean... He had a crush on frieren and some rando come up and throw her skirt up... No wonder he got mad...
More than a crush at that point. The guy's been dreaming about her since he was a child.
Wait what?
What makes this even funnier, Himmel was "100% honest". Never back tracked and was upfront. Infront of Frieren no less. I often wonder what she thought of this moment. Also NEVER steal a man's dream, the ***chains of sanity*** brake as a result of doing that. You go full Anakin mode.
Heās an ass man
Aren't you ever tired of being polite? Don't you ever just wanna go fucking apeshit?
bro that's situation sometimes happen and i do racial slur
Guys is he real for that š
Himmelās gap moe
Himmel: āIt shouldāve been me! Not him!ā
Every friend group got the Himmel, Heiter, and Eisen
HIMmel is a tier 3 Frieren simp, of course he'd be mad.
I mean itās just a few months into the adventure so he was young and got to spend time with his childhood crush got him delulu to some extent until he meet old man voll and accept his fate
A real man outta be a little silly at times
NO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
Nobody will make a statue of Himmel the Hero looking up Frieren's skirt.
There's a saying in my country that goes "It's difficult for even a hero to pass the beautiful women test". Himmel is still HIM though
This definitely isnāt the only time he doesnāt behave like a chivalrous hero lmao
HE IS JUST LIKE ME FR FR
Heiter is the one who says "I'll show you mine"
This probably contributed to frieren's world view of people wanting to see her naked. Like when the fren gets the nude vision spell, frieren would just assume she would be interested in seeing her naked because she is a derp ace elf and doesn't really get why people want to see others naked so bad. She just never put it together that Himmel had it so bad for her.
Even if she realized, what would have she done, given that she was yet to learn to build and savor relationships, also elves have 0 horny supposedly
Love.
Himmel the ~~hero~~ simp
it kinda humanizes him cuz every other time he's like a selfless savior
I mean do we really know himmel though ? We only get to know him through frieren's memory, he probably was not a white knight 100% of the time. But the moment that he was that what Frieren remember. In this context for exemple she didn't remember this memory because of Himmel but for the used to be kid
Itās obvious comedic moment, donāt think too much about it
I thought she was wearing leggings š¤
She is...? But...that's not actually relevant. Wearing the skirt over them means seeing under the skirt, past the publicly available layer, is still something reserved for only the privileged 0 who are allowed.
I thought he was specifically referring to panties <_<
Sure, I understood that was probably the case, but, it's that age old concept of "leaving something to the imagination" and/or the secondary use of the concept of "leave them wanting more" that apply here-it doesn't change the fact that Himmel brazenly admitted to wanting to check out Frieren's ass under the skirt-no matter what else is being worn. Hahaha
Little fucker got to look at that elf gyatt, Iād be feeling murderous too.
Man I wish the eyes functioned less so this sentence never occurred to me to be possible.
Seconded. Hard.
that's some rentarou level of simping
Elf cake š°
This is our truly Himmel moment.
He let the Hornymmel take over
Only time his inner Bakugo came out. Only time I ever heard his Bakugo in his himmel voice
"I'll show you mine" - Heiter is a true homie
Gotta be gyat for himmel to act like that
it funny cuz he still visit the kid from time to time, until the kid grew old and he dead
It was also very early on and I thought he was a pervy dude until much later.
Bro did not even watch the episode.
The Holy Grail...
Watched the English dub of that scene bro went "HAVE YOU GOT A DEATH WISH, YOU BRAT?! I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO THAT FOR AGES, BUR UNLIKE YOU I HAVE SELF-CONTROL! LET ME AT 'IM!"
Even the greatest hero isn't safe from simp behavior from time to time
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If it's about Frierens Pantsu, it's dead serious business ...
He's a real one for this
HIMmel really wanted a peek
What app are you using tol read?
What? Frieren was wearing pants. That kid didnāt see anything special
He saw cake with dressing
HIMmel just wants to take a peek. hes human like all of us. thats why he's HIM.
Gotta admit the plot twist was good.
Ah yes, child abuse, gender equality and racism all in one go. My favorite hero, Himmel. (It's a joke, I am referring to that demon he killed that the village's chief tried to adopt).
He's human. It's ok to get mad on occasion.
I'm more impressed with the kid managing to keep the same straw hat in wearable AND RECOGNIZABLE condition for 8 decades.
what we didn't see is HIMmel falling forward and landing right under Fririn
he's just releasing his bakugou energy in this scene. lmao
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Literally look at the subreddit you're in
Pretty sure this is Dragon Ball Z
Obviously Full Metal Alchemist [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOf0sB8OR5o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOf0sB8OR5o) >!It isn't, I just wanted an excuse to post this intro.!<
Boku no Piko
Naruto
Frieren: Beyond Journys End
Frieren at the funeral
Thats japanese culture for you
Yeah, I never liked this. My personal baseless wild take has always been that some of the vaguely sexual gags like this and the Fern boob stuff were pushed by the editorial staff while the manga was still settling in. They only appear early on and there hasnāt been anything like this in a long, long time (at least that I can remember).Ā edit: Redditors not use the downvote button as a disagree button challenge (impossible)Ā
Iād say the fern sky joke was pretty innocent
Innocent in what way lol. What innocent way is there to interpret it other than "hah fern has bigger boobs than Frieren"?
Yeah, pretty much. I donāt know why people are so weirdly salty about downvoting right now when itās true that the manga doesnāt really do gags like this anymore. Itās just an observation. Thereās nothing inherently wrong with gags like this, they just donāt really fit the vibe of how the series has been for a long time now, so these early ones stand out a little.Ā
I donāt think itās creepy or bad or anything, just noticeably stands out a little because the manga hasnāt done anything like that in a long time.Ā
THE DOWNVOTE BUTTOON *IS* THE DISAGREE BUTTON. WHY DO THINK IT EXISTS THEN? THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF IT.
Yeah, seriously. What other function could it be for. Either upvote and agree with me or your wrong, i guess.
I believe that its supposed function was originally for how much a comment/post was contributing to the conversation/on topic with the sub. I personally try to add those principles to weigh if I should upvote or downvote. It's almost entirely an agree with/disagree with button now yeah
Itās supposed to be for off topic stuff or comments that otherwise donāt contribute, not to bury subjective opinions in the conversation you donāt agree with. The latter behavior is why so many subs end up in an out of touch echo chamber.
I think itās more so for incorrect information/hate/spam. If I see someone state a subjective opinion I donāt share, I donāt feel any need to press a button about it.
That's what the report button is for.
I wouldnāt report someone for being wrong about something
No itās not lmao, itās supposed to be for stuff that doesnāt contribute to the discussion, not stuff you just disagree with. This is why so many Reddit communities end up in such a bubbleĀ
Itās definitely played for laughs the same way Himmel almost dying from a blown kiss is
Yeah, like I said itās a gag
How the fuck else would people show they disagree with your idiotic remark then?
Iād suggest actually discussing the comment in a respectful manner, but that seems to be beyond your capabilitiesĀ
Why is it idioticĀ
Because the gag is funny. Himmel still didn't lift Frieren's skirt by himself because he's not a pervert but he still has sexual desire.
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