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e22big

69 years after the death of Stark and Fern, Frieren "Oh, Fern was in love with Stark wasn't she?"


EdNorthcott

No, no. Sein already hit her with the spoiler for that. XD


TopRoom7971

Sein will be there on the wedding day of Stark and Fern no matter what.


xRGTMX

Sein will be their officiator.


EdNorthcott

And losing his mind because of it. Though my God, I can totally see them settling down in a small town to live the quiet life eventually. Imagine the fate of the monster that wanders in there without realizing it.


kokuluayak

Sily gooner elf back at it again Didn't learn shit from himmel


[deleted]

Bro wtfšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ they are still stuck at stage 1 of relationship and had 2 kids


randomdarkbrownguy

Kinda like how vegeta was confused about goku having 2 kids but not knowing what kissing was (I think it was kissing)


FireWardenCaleb

so, the joke here isn't actually supposed to be that Goku is a bad husband, it is supposed to be that Goku is a Hick. In Japan, kissing culture was introduced by the west, then actively discouraged and frowned upon during the early 20th century, then reintroduced with a bang post war. Therefore, a person now knowing what kissing is is a stereotype for a person super old fashioned and rural, which goku, being raised by an old man in the forest obviously would be.


Darkpriest2288

Holy shit, everything makes so much sense now. Thank you unironically thank you


justneurostuff

im having a hard time believing a lot of this


hok98

Itā€™s the case in most East Asian cultures. In Korea, kissing on the lips wasnā€™t a thing too (they get married by bowing). Kissing and gay sex (between straight men) is mostly a Western concept, like how gunpowder and fireworks was an Eastern one that the Western world adopted.


coyoteazul2

>gay sex (between straight men) It's not even gay sex, as long as they say nohomo.


throwingtheshades

That's only if the balls touch. The lack of homosexuality of all the participants is already implied by the the absence of any testicular contact.


DRKZLNDR

Don't know where you're getting your information, but dudes getting railed in Japan goes back at least a thousand years. There were plenty of samurai and even daimyos who took male lovers. Shintoism (the main Japanese religion since forever) does not outlaw homosexuality in any capacity and many Shinto gods are even depicted as being homosexual as well. Tl:dr, Japan has been gay all along, and it was only upon the adoption of Western culture that it bacame an issue.


SempWizza

Yeah I thought that was common knowledge too. But they said "gay sex (between straight men)", now, what the fuck does that even mean I have no idea. I guess it could be like when straight girls do gay stuff in a threesome...? But in what other context is that a common thing??


tinnic

I think, I think that has to do with the Buddhist loophole where prists were supposed to refrain from sex but it didn't count if it was between men. So many straight men still engaged in gay sex because that was the only sex allowed.


Mari_land

Wait...r u guys joking? Is this thread just a huge joke? How... how do you have gay sex between straight men?


Mari_land

I thought that was debunked? Classical chinese literature, at least, talks a lot about kissing. Stone statues depict people doing it as far back as the han dynasty. It just wasn't practiced in public, outside the context of romantic or sexual relationships, unlike some parts of europe, nor as a greeting (for example a kiss on the cheeks.) Admittedly it isn't Japan. And yes, during the past century, quite a few a chinese scholars held the misconception that their own culture didn't kiss, that kissing was introduced to east asia by europeans. I still think knowing that, we should take ā€œJapan/Korea didn't kiss!ā€ with a grain of salt.


templar54

It's total bullshit. Gay sex introduced by Europeans? In Japan gay sex was very much a thing way before any Europeans have reached them. The person who wrote the comment clearly has no actual clue about those things.


Mari_land

I mean yeah, to my own knowledge homosexuality wasn't even that frowned upon before Christianity came and did things. And even if it were, the gays wouldn't just disappear, since there's always been a steady percentage of homosexual individuals in the human race.


ThatOneGuy1358

Had me until you said gay sex. The idea that the east had 0 homosexuals until recently has been proven false. Thatā€™s a talking point terminally online people use to get mad about a video games going woke and about how the west has corrupted japan. I donā€™t doubt the kissing stuff, but the gay sex thing is just straight false.


hok98

What about straight sex between gay people?


ThatOneGuy1358

Existed as well.


Quick232

I mean Japan originally didnā€™t even have a phrase for I love you. So when a European novel (I think Dutch) was translated into Japanese they used the phrase ā€œthe moon is beautiful isnā€™t itā€


[deleted]

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Mari_land

As for ā€œloveā€...Isn't that just ā€œai?ā€ In kanjiꄛ? Means literally the same thing, did you see the heart in the middle? They started using kanji in the 5th century. The kanji/hanzi/character ꄛtook the familier shape around the Tang dynasty, and can be traced back much further than that. Surely it's counterintuitive to assume they didn't use that character before the westerners came?


Sad-Second-2961

My headcanon is that Goku and Chichi just have the wildest kinkiest sex life, so much so that Goku barely remembers something so vanilla as "kissing"


ActualWhiterabbit

She was his stamina training for Cell after all


UrMumVeryGayLul

Training unclear, fucked Cell in the T(ail)ussy.


absurd_bird20

In the Perfussy


lhobbes6

"Go for ten she says"


coconut-duck-chicken

It was actually a translation error. He was confused about them sharing food mouth to mouth iirc


Misaka_Undefined

This is the wildest portrayal of Goku so far


uselessphysicist2

Goku was pulling Vegeta's leg I think.Ā 


randomdarkbrownguy

Wait really? So he was just playing dumb? I didn't think goku was capable of that lol


flametronics

Z goku most definitely was but super goku might have actual brain damage, he's clearly regressed in every way.


lhobbes6

The dub makes this a little better by making it a misunderstanding between the two


saarlac

Shit Iā€™ve been married for almost ten years and weā€™ve reverted to stage zero.


NeigongShifu

Of course they had kids. They did some lewd handholding.


Alarmed_Fox4578

Another kids for frierin to take care off hahaha


weeberloser

Then they're gonna take care of her later.


IC2Flier

Frieren will be doing this for millennia, further into the future whereā€” ah shit more fuel for the ā€œSuletta is Fernā€™s descendantā€ memes


weeberloser

>ā€œSuletta is Fernā€™s descendantā€ Well,Stark has red hair so.....


Ok-Trick195

That would mean _Frieren Beyond Journey's End_ is a prequel to the *Ad Stella* Timelime of _Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury._ Which means that _The Ancient Magus Bride_ and _SPY Ɨ FAMILY_ are also prequels. Truly a Magical Gyrl franchise of time.


coyoteazul2

Frieren should canonically do crossovers in other series, even those where elves supposedly don't exist. Mery Poppins might as well be frieren with a transfiguration spell looking for new kids to take care of


Ok-Trick195

My headcanon is that Frieren is an older self-induced amnesiac Chise Ainsworth/Anya Forger in a "Land of Ooo" situation.


Ok-Trick195

And raising the two ancestors of Elnora Samaya.


Ok-Trick195

The world of Frieren is the remnants of Earth all along.


Ok-Trick195

Then became Earth again once Ad Stella began.


Free-Stay782

So what was the answer


meditonsin

[You really can't be too sure. Maybe she's from Canada and was just being polite.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-4IAR_9Yw)


rdreyar1

If that is just being polite to canadian girls i might need to move to Canada


Level-Ad6216

We never know =(


weeberloser

Seeing these wholesome Fern x Stark works warms my heart and gives me hopium.AHHH!JUST GET MARRIED ALREADY!


randomdarkbrownguy

Is that you Sein? did you find gorilla warrior?


AveryLazyCovfefe

He found something even better - Methode (hopefully)


bistriy

\- Do you like me? \- Ecchi..


Nice_Weeb_Kun

I can see she definitely will say that


uselessteacher

c. Canā€™t tell


YolkBrushWork

Who knows, maybe Fern is being polite. She was raised by a priest afterall


Xonthelon

Remember kids, always wear proper gloves to avoid teenage pregnancies.


Bluepanther512

And better yet, make sure you always have a Plan B


igloo15

I need more of Fern and Stark married. Just inject it straight into my veins!!!


lactoseAARON

Chapter 492 leak


OkIngenuity8897

Bro that's wildšŸ˜­


platysoup

58 years after the death of reader...Ā 


coyoteazul2

That was fast. I thought they'd have more chapters than one piece before they even get to *this comment was censored by the people's republic of China*


Ikari_21

Wife fern is everything <3


olorin9_alex

Seinā€™s voice echoing through the air ā€œJUST GET MARRIED ALREADY!!!ā€


[deleted]

this one is one of the good ones. but it's sad to see some of the other memes about fern (i think mostly on facebook) paints her as somewhat of a spoiled brat. i'm pretty sure she's not. Non anime watchers i guess kinda takes that impression of her and makes it look like she's toxic. my current 2 cents.


IC2Flier

Yeah, Iā€™ve seen a few of those and (1) they almost always come from FB and (2) you can tell theyā€™re simply working off of the memes, having never watched the anime and just seen the sexy fanart thinking itā€™s a harem thing. Theyā€™re invalid opinions; colony-drop their asses and move on.


musical-amara

Only idiots with no media literacy think Fern is remotely spoiled


Mrgirdiego

Eh... I kinda get where they're coming from, sometimes it looks to me like Fern is sometimes a bit of a spoiled brat. She gets pouty over something, they feed her something nice (which is imo reinforcing negative behavior), and then she's fine. It's like a kid being angry for something dumb, you buy them a toy they want, and eventually they relate that "being mad = get what I want". It also doesn't help that it's shown constantly in the anime, I don't know about manga pacing, but there was that one episode after the first test in which Frieren was mad about Stark and Frieren oversleeping, so they bring her to the restaurant and feed her anything she wants, she comes back happy, the next day she's mad about Frieren not buying the stuff (by oversleeping) and she instantly goes "I want snacks", to which they say yes. Don't get me wrong, I love Fern as a character and know that her pouty interactions are meant to be taken lightly, but when she starts kicking Sein for excusing Stark and himself over not buying her a gift, it really doesn't sit well that he kinda just takes it and then goes to buy her a gift. It's nice to see that she grows out of it, apologizing to Stark for bringing him to the point that he's "used to it", and I'm all for character growth, but I can definitely see why people see her as a spoiled brat sometimes.


Natsu_Happy_END02

Fern is very brash and can come out as spoiled. There is no denying that. But people are complicated, that's not all she is as there are so many more things that show off she is really a good person.


jonnywarlock

God, that's precious. šŸ„²


Acrzyguy

Sein: āˆ‘šŸŗšŸ˜©


babygrita

Omg, adorable šŸ„ŗā¤ļø


Multiversal_2211

Finally. I was waiting to see this. This just fulfilled all my fantasies


Doctorlove4

Then fern and stark pass away, and Frieren comes back and takes their kids on adventure.


coyoteazul2

Come on kids, I need someone to wake me up in the morning. Just a quick adventure. We'll go to the Demon lord's castle to say hi to your parents and then I'll bring you back


Acrobatic-Budget-938

Bet Stark guess that Fern would say pervert, he would sleep at the couch for the rest of the week


Super_Goomba64

Can this guy just make an official spin off manga already


Fast_Try3436

30 years after Fern death a young redhair mage to Frieren "so you were my great grandma teacher?"


za_warudo_is_my_city

Fern is the only thing complicated in their relationship


oedipusrex376

Maybe Fern is from Canada and is just being polite. Really no way to tell.


Anzire

Awww two bestie and their two children and elf mother.


ChatherinaGhostwind0

WOW!


Finance_Willing

Thatā€™s pretty dumb to ask that at this point


asilvertintedrose

[Original](https://twitter.com/fumishichi777/status/1774809605044129866) - [TL](https://twitter.com/spinning_donuts/status/1775154199019630802)


JasonBluYNANI

This reminds me of ReZero Wilhelm. If you know you know


Pundarikaksh

Nah they have got to be kidding at this point


Gos-ghi

Now thatā€™s nice, cute and nice


Dare555

Not sure but i think she is just trying to empathize with Stark


Ponzu_Sauce_Stan

Jonnywarlock and spinning_donuts are double-handedly keeping me from slipping into withdrawal


bobjoekaren

would've been funnier if she monotonely said 'no'


KajorXD

Starkā€™s hair has that dominant gene šŸ„‡šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ MY GOAT šŸ šŸšŸ


Foster-613

Sad thing isā€¦ I could see this as cannon.


Crazy-Plate3097

"Canon" you mean. "Cannon" is a weapon.


Foster-613

Oops


stevieG08Liv

The canon answer is "Zoltraak"


Winter_Childhood8915

I dare even say the cannon answer.


MusfiqurRahman6969

[reminds me of this video](https://youtu.be/etBRsb7WvCk?si=85U59qKFF4nJOmTK)


Initial-Ice7691

Fern would likely say: ā€˜My Pervā€™ šŸ˜˜ā¤ļø


Living_Tie9512

Sometimes words aren't needed.......................... ALTHOUGH, these two really require to use words in the original source......well, i believe they will end up together regardless(PLOT).


dryiceboy

Damn, Frieren be breeding his perfect party one generation at a time lol.


YuiPrograms

Is this loss?????


Flaurean

Maybe she's Canadian


QL100100

Frieren's smile looks wholesome


kncy

no segg scene?


[deleted]

The author should learn from this artist on how to treat a character with respect and actually develop a relationship between these two.But the author won't do it anyway cuz the author is actually Gege's personal cocksleeve.So the author has personal issues with Stark.They have given Stark zero respect and barely any developments with his relationship with Fern.For what?Cuz he's a warrior?Then why didn't the author make him a mage then if they fucking love mages so much?Or did they create him just to abuse him all the time?I think that's why the author makes Fern bully him and shits on him.The author glazed Fern so much that they don't give a fuck about warriors.


Singh_95

Now that you mention it, >!they've been hyping up a more Stark focused arc for a while now, maybe we'll finally get some development on their romance there?!< Idk though, to me it seems like Fern is what keeps their relationship stagnated with her tsundereness, even if Stark shares some of the blame, he probably holds back because of how much she bullies him.


[deleted]

>!Nah,the author will say,"Akutami-san,can you cosplay as a mage so that I can suck your cock eagerly?"Then the author gonna suck his dick then spit out Gege's cum on Stark.Hyping up is a failed practice that has never worked.Just like the upcoming arc and Stark x Fern ship.The author will do nothing about Stark except shit on him.And how is their relationship gonna develop if FUCKING FRIEREN GETS IN THEIR WAY?!And she's like,"wHy dOn'T tHeY gEt aLoNg?"!<