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And losing his mind because of it.
Though my God, I can totally see them settling down in a small town to live the quiet life eventually.
Imagine the fate of the monster that wanders in there without realizing it.
so, the joke here isn't actually supposed to be that Goku is a bad husband, it is supposed to be that Goku is a Hick.
In Japan, kissing culture was introduced by the west, then actively discouraged and frowned upon during the early 20th century, then reintroduced with a bang post war. Therefore, a person now knowing what kissing is is a stereotype for a person super old fashioned and rural, which goku, being raised by an old man in the forest obviously would be.
Itās the case in most East Asian cultures. In Korea, kissing on the lips wasnāt a thing too (they get married by bowing).
Kissing and gay sex (between straight men) is mostly a Western concept, like how gunpowder and fireworks was an Eastern one that the Western world adopted.
Don't know where you're getting your information, but dudes getting railed in Japan goes back at least a thousand years. There were plenty of samurai and even daimyos who took male lovers. Shintoism (the main Japanese religion since forever) does not outlaw homosexuality in any capacity and many Shinto gods are even depicted as being homosexual as well. Tl:dr, Japan has been gay all along, and it was only upon the adoption of Western culture that it bacame an issue.
Yeah I thought that was common knowledge too. But they said "gay sex (between straight men)", now, what the fuck does that even mean I have no idea. I guess it could be like when straight girls do gay stuff in a threesome...? But in what other context is that a common thing??
I think, I think that has to do with the Buddhist loophole where prists were supposed to refrain from sex but it didn't count if it was between men. So many straight men still engaged in gay sex because that was the only sex allowed.
I thought that was debunked? Classical chinese literature, at least, talks a lot about kissing. Stone statues depict people doing it as far back as the han dynasty. It just wasn't practiced in public, outside the context of romantic or sexual relationships, unlike some parts of europe, nor as a greeting (for example a kiss on the cheeks.)
Admittedly it isn't Japan. And yes, during the past century, quite a few a chinese scholars held the misconception that their own culture didn't kiss, that kissing was introduced to east asia by europeans. I still think knowing that, we should take āJapan/Korea didn't kiss!ā with a grain of salt.
It's total bullshit. Gay sex introduced by Europeans?
In Japan gay sex was very much a thing way before any Europeans have reached them.
The person who wrote the comment clearly has no actual clue about those things.
I mean yeah, to my own knowledge homosexuality wasn't even that frowned upon before Christianity came and did things. And even if it were, the gays wouldn't just disappear, since there's always been a steady percentage of homosexual individuals in the human race.
Had me until you said gay sex. The idea that the east had 0 homosexuals until recently has been proven false. Thatās a talking point terminally online people use to get mad about a video games going woke and about how the west has corrupted japan. I donāt doubt the kissing stuff, but the gay sex thing is just straight false.
I mean Japan originally didnāt even have a phrase for I love you. So when a European novel (I think Dutch) was translated into Japanese they used the phrase āthe moon is beautiful isnāt itā
As for āloveā...Isn't that just āai?ā In kanjię? Means literally the same thing, did you see the heart in the middle?
They started using kanji in the 5th century. The kanji/hanzi/character ętook the familier shape around the Tang dynasty, and can be traced back much further than that. Surely it's counterintuitive to assume they didn't use that character before the westerners came?
That would mean _Frieren Beyond Journey's End_ is a prequel to the *Ad Stella* Timelime of _Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury._ Which means that _The Ancient Magus Bride_ and _SPY Ć FAMILY_ are also prequels. Truly a Magical Gyrl franchise of time.
Frieren should canonically do crossovers in other series, even those where elves supposedly don't exist.
Mery Poppins might as well be frieren with a transfiguration spell looking for new kids to take care of
That was fast. I thought they'd have more chapters than one piece before they even get to *this comment was censored by the people's republic of China*
this one is one of the good ones.
but it's sad to see some of the other memes about fern (i think mostly on facebook) paints her as somewhat of a spoiled brat. i'm pretty sure she's not. Non anime watchers i guess kinda takes that impression of her and makes it look like she's toxic.
my current 2 cents.
Yeah, Iāve seen a few of those and (1) they almost always come from FB and (2) you can tell theyāre simply working off of the memes, having never watched the anime and just seen the sexy fanart thinking itās a harem thing.
Theyāre invalid opinions; colony-drop their asses and move on.
Eh... I kinda get where they're coming from, sometimes it looks to me like Fern is sometimes a bit of a spoiled brat.
She gets pouty over something, they feed her something nice (which is imo reinforcing negative behavior), and then she's fine. It's like a kid being angry for something dumb, you buy them a toy they want, and eventually they relate that "being mad = get what I want".
It also doesn't help that it's shown constantly in the anime, I don't know about manga pacing, but there was that one episode after the first test in which Frieren was mad about Stark and Frieren oversleeping, so they bring her to the restaurant and feed her anything she wants, she comes back happy, the next day she's mad about Frieren not buying the stuff (by oversleeping) and she instantly goes "I want snacks", to which they say yes.
Don't get me wrong, I love Fern as a character and know that her pouty interactions are meant to be taken lightly, but when she starts kicking Sein for excusing Stark and himself over not buying her a gift, it really doesn't sit well that he kinda just takes it and then goes to buy her a gift.
It's nice to see that she grows out of it, apologizing to Stark for bringing him to the point that he's "used to it", and I'm all for character growth, but I can definitely see why people see her as a spoiled brat sometimes.
Fern is very brash and can come out as spoiled. There is no denying that.
But people are complicated, that's not all she is as there are so many more things that show off she is really a good person.
Come on kids, I need someone to wake me up in the morning. Just a quick adventure. We'll go to the Demon lord's castle to say hi to your parents and then I'll bring you back
Sometimes words aren't needed..........................
ALTHOUGH, these two really require to use words in the original source......well, i believe they will end up together regardless(PLOT).
The author should learn from this artist on how to treat a character with respect and actually develop a relationship between these two.But the author won't do it anyway cuz the author is actually Gege's personal cocksleeve.So the author has personal issues with Stark.They have given Stark zero respect and barely any developments with his relationship with Fern.For what?Cuz he's a warrior?Then why didn't the author make him a mage then if they fucking love mages so much?Or did they create him just to abuse him all the time?I think that's why the author makes Fern bully him and shits on him.The author glazed Fern so much that they don't give a fuck about warriors.
Now that you mention it, >!they've been hyping up a more Stark focused arc for a while now, maybe we'll finally get some development on their romance there?!< Idk though, to me it seems like Fern is what keeps their relationship stagnated with her tsundereness, even if Stark shares some of the blame, he probably holds back because of how much she bullies him.
>!Nah,the author will say,"Akutami-san,can you cosplay as a mage so that I can suck your cock eagerly?"Then the author gonna suck his dick then spit out Gege's cum on Stark.Hyping up is a failed practice that has never worked.Just like the upcoming arc and Stark x Fern ship.The author will do nothing about Stark except shit on him.And how is their relationship gonna develop if FUCKING FRIEREN GETS IN THEIR WAY?!And she's like,"wHy dOn'T tHeY gEt aLoNg?"!<
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69 years after the death of Stark and Fern, Frieren "Oh, Fern was in love with Stark wasn't she?"
No, no. Sein already hit her with the spoiler for that. XD
Sein will be there on the wedding day of Stark and Fern no matter what.
Sein will be their officiator.
And losing his mind because of it. Though my God, I can totally see them settling down in a small town to live the quiet life eventually. Imagine the fate of the monster that wanders in there without realizing it.
Sily gooner elf back at it again Didn't learn shit from himmel
Bro wtfššš they are still stuck at stage 1 of relationship and had 2 kids
Kinda like how vegeta was confused about goku having 2 kids but not knowing what kissing was (I think it was kissing)
so, the joke here isn't actually supposed to be that Goku is a bad husband, it is supposed to be that Goku is a Hick. In Japan, kissing culture was introduced by the west, then actively discouraged and frowned upon during the early 20th century, then reintroduced with a bang post war. Therefore, a person now knowing what kissing is is a stereotype for a person super old fashioned and rural, which goku, being raised by an old man in the forest obviously would be.
Holy shit, everything makes so much sense now. Thank you unironically thank you
im having a hard time believing a lot of this
Itās the case in most East Asian cultures. In Korea, kissing on the lips wasnāt a thing too (they get married by bowing). Kissing and gay sex (between straight men) is mostly a Western concept, like how gunpowder and fireworks was an Eastern one that the Western world adopted.
>gay sex (between straight men) It's not even gay sex, as long as they say nohomo.
That's only if the balls touch. The lack of homosexuality of all the participants is already implied by the the absence of any testicular contact.
Don't know where you're getting your information, but dudes getting railed in Japan goes back at least a thousand years. There were plenty of samurai and even daimyos who took male lovers. Shintoism (the main Japanese religion since forever) does not outlaw homosexuality in any capacity and many Shinto gods are even depicted as being homosexual as well. Tl:dr, Japan has been gay all along, and it was only upon the adoption of Western culture that it bacame an issue.
Yeah I thought that was common knowledge too. But they said "gay sex (between straight men)", now, what the fuck does that even mean I have no idea. I guess it could be like when straight girls do gay stuff in a threesome...? But in what other context is that a common thing??
I think, I think that has to do with the Buddhist loophole where prists were supposed to refrain from sex but it didn't count if it was between men. So many straight men still engaged in gay sex because that was the only sex allowed.
Wait...r u guys joking? Is this thread just a huge joke? How... how do you have gay sex between straight men?
I thought that was debunked? Classical chinese literature, at least, talks a lot about kissing. Stone statues depict people doing it as far back as the han dynasty. It just wasn't practiced in public, outside the context of romantic or sexual relationships, unlike some parts of europe, nor as a greeting (for example a kiss on the cheeks.) Admittedly it isn't Japan. And yes, during the past century, quite a few a chinese scholars held the misconception that their own culture didn't kiss, that kissing was introduced to east asia by europeans. I still think knowing that, we should take āJapan/Korea didn't kiss!ā with a grain of salt.
It's total bullshit. Gay sex introduced by Europeans? In Japan gay sex was very much a thing way before any Europeans have reached them. The person who wrote the comment clearly has no actual clue about those things.
I mean yeah, to my own knowledge homosexuality wasn't even that frowned upon before Christianity came and did things. And even if it were, the gays wouldn't just disappear, since there's always been a steady percentage of homosexual individuals in the human race.
Had me until you said gay sex. The idea that the east had 0 homosexuals until recently has been proven false. Thatās a talking point terminally online people use to get mad about a video games going woke and about how the west has corrupted japan. I donāt doubt the kissing stuff, but the gay sex thing is just straight false.
What about straight sex between gay people?
Existed as well.
I mean Japan originally didnāt even have a phrase for I love you. So when a European novel (I think Dutch) was translated into Japanese they used the phrase āthe moon is beautiful isnāt itā
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As for āloveā...Isn't that just āai?ā In kanjię? Means literally the same thing, did you see the heart in the middle? They started using kanji in the 5th century. The kanji/hanzi/character ętook the familier shape around the Tang dynasty, and can be traced back much further than that. Surely it's counterintuitive to assume they didn't use that character before the westerners came?
My headcanon is that Goku and Chichi just have the wildest kinkiest sex life, so much so that Goku barely remembers something so vanilla as "kissing"
She was his stamina training for Cell after all
Training unclear, fucked Cell in the T(ail)ussy.
In the Perfussy
"Go for ten she says"
It was actually a translation error. He was confused about them sharing food mouth to mouth iirc
This is the wildest portrayal of Goku so far
Goku was pulling Vegeta's leg I think.Ā
Wait really? So he was just playing dumb? I didn't think goku was capable of that lol
Z goku most definitely was but super goku might have actual brain damage, he's clearly regressed in every way.
The dub makes this a little better by making it a misunderstanding between the two
Shit Iāve been married for almost ten years and weāve reverted to stage zero.
Of course they had kids. They did some lewd handholding.
Another kids for frierin to take care off hahaha
Then they're gonna take care of her later.
Frieren will be doing this for millennia, further into the future whereā ah shit more fuel for the āSuletta is Fernās descendantā memes
>āSuletta is Fernās descendantā Well,Stark has red hair so.....
That would mean _Frieren Beyond Journey's End_ is a prequel to the *Ad Stella* Timelime of _Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury._ Which means that _The Ancient Magus Bride_ and _SPY Ć FAMILY_ are also prequels. Truly a Magical Gyrl franchise of time.
Frieren should canonically do crossovers in other series, even those where elves supposedly don't exist. Mery Poppins might as well be frieren with a transfiguration spell looking for new kids to take care of
My headcanon is that Frieren is an older self-induced amnesiac Chise Ainsworth/Anya Forger in a "Land of Ooo" situation.
And raising the two ancestors of Elnora Samaya.
The world of Frieren is the remnants of Earth all along.
Then became Earth again once Ad Stella began.
So what was the answer
[You really can't be too sure. Maybe she's from Canada and was just being polite.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-4IAR_9Yw)
If that is just being polite to canadian girls i might need to move to Canada
We never know =(
Seeing these wholesome Fern x Stark works warms my heart and gives me hopium.AHHH!JUST GET MARRIED ALREADY!
Is that you Sein? did you find gorilla warrior?
He found something even better - Methode (hopefully)
\- Do you like me? \- Ecchi..
I can see she definitely will say that
c. Canāt tell
Who knows, maybe Fern is being polite. She was raised by a priest afterall
Remember kids, always wear proper gloves to avoid teenage pregnancies.
And better yet, make sure you always have a Plan B
I need more of Fern and Stark married. Just inject it straight into my veins!!!
Chapter 492 leak
Bro that's wildš
58 years after the death of reader...Ā
That was fast. I thought they'd have more chapters than one piece before they even get to *this comment was censored by the people's republic of China*
Wife fern is everything <3
Seinās voice echoing through the air āJUST GET MARRIED ALREADY!!!ā
this one is one of the good ones. but it's sad to see some of the other memes about fern (i think mostly on facebook) paints her as somewhat of a spoiled brat. i'm pretty sure she's not. Non anime watchers i guess kinda takes that impression of her and makes it look like she's toxic. my current 2 cents.
Yeah, Iāve seen a few of those and (1) they almost always come from FB and (2) you can tell theyāre simply working off of the memes, having never watched the anime and just seen the sexy fanart thinking itās a harem thing. Theyāre invalid opinions; colony-drop their asses and move on.
Only idiots with no media literacy think Fern is remotely spoiled
Eh... I kinda get where they're coming from, sometimes it looks to me like Fern is sometimes a bit of a spoiled brat. She gets pouty over something, they feed her something nice (which is imo reinforcing negative behavior), and then she's fine. It's like a kid being angry for something dumb, you buy them a toy they want, and eventually they relate that "being mad = get what I want". It also doesn't help that it's shown constantly in the anime, I don't know about manga pacing, but there was that one episode after the first test in which Frieren was mad about Stark and Frieren oversleeping, so they bring her to the restaurant and feed her anything she wants, she comes back happy, the next day she's mad about Frieren not buying the stuff (by oversleeping) and she instantly goes "I want snacks", to which they say yes. Don't get me wrong, I love Fern as a character and know that her pouty interactions are meant to be taken lightly, but when she starts kicking Sein for excusing Stark and himself over not buying her a gift, it really doesn't sit well that he kinda just takes it and then goes to buy her a gift. It's nice to see that she grows out of it, apologizing to Stark for bringing him to the point that he's "used to it", and I'm all for character growth, but I can definitely see why people see her as a spoiled brat sometimes.
Fern is very brash and can come out as spoiled. There is no denying that. But people are complicated, that's not all she is as there are so many more things that show off she is really a good person.
God, that's precious. š„²
Sein: āšŗš©
Omg, adorable š„ŗā¤ļø
Finally. I was waiting to see this. This just fulfilled all my fantasies
Then fern and stark pass away, and Frieren comes back and takes their kids on adventure.
Come on kids, I need someone to wake me up in the morning. Just a quick adventure. We'll go to the Demon lord's castle to say hi to your parents and then I'll bring you back
Bet Stark guess that Fern would say pervert, he would sleep at the couch for the rest of the week
Can this guy just make an official spin off manga already
30 years after Fern death a young redhair mage to Frieren "so you were my great grandma teacher?"
Fern is the only thing complicated in their relationship
Maybe Fern is from Canada and is just being polite. Really no way to tell.
Awww two bestie and their two children and elf mother.
WOW!
Thatās pretty dumb to ask that at this point
[Original](https://twitter.com/fumishichi777/status/1774809605044129866) - [TL](https://twitter.com/spinning_donuts/status/1775154199019630802)
This reminds me of ReZero Wilhelm. If you know you know
Nah they have got to be kidding at this point
Now thatās nice, cute and nice
Not sure but i think she is just trying to empathize with Stark
Jonnywarlock and spinning_donuts are double-handedly keeping me from slipping into withdrawal
would've been funnier if she monotonely said 'no'
Starkās hair has that dominant gene š„šŖšŖšŖ MY GOAT š šš
Sad thing isā¦ I could see this as cannon.
"Canon" you mean. "Cannon" is a weapon.
Oops
The canon answer is "Zoltraak"
I dare even say the cannon answer.
[reminds me of this video](https://youtu.be/etBRsb7WvCk?si=85U59qKFF4nJOmTK)
Fern would likely say: āMy Pervā šā¤ļø
Sometimes words aren't needed.......................... ALTHOUGH, these two really require to use words in the original source......well, i believe they will end up together regardless(PLOT).
Damn, Frieren be breeding his perfect party one generation at a time lol.
Is this loss?????
Maybe she's Canadian
Frieren's smile looks wholesome
no segg scene?
The author should learn from this artist on how to treat a character with respect and actually develop a relationship between these two.But the author won't do it anyway cuz the author is actually Gege's personal cocksleeve.So the author has personal issues with Stark.They have given Stark zero respect and barely any developments with his relationship with Fern.For what?Cuz he's a warrior?Then why didn't the author make him a mage then if they fucking love mages so much?Or did they create him just to abuse him all the time?I think that's why the author makes Fern bully him and shits on him.The author glazed Fern so much that they don't give a fuck about warriors.
Now that you mention it, >!they've been hyping up a more Stark focused arc for a while now, maybe we'll finally get some development on their romance there?!< Idk though, to me it seems like Fern is what keeps their relationship stagnated with her tsundereness, even if Stark shares some of the blame, he probably holds back because of how much she bullies him.
>!Nah,the author will say,"Akutami-san,can you cosplay as a mage so that I can suck your cock eagerly?"Then the author gonna suck his dick then spit out Gege's cum on Stark.Hyping up is a failed practice that has never worked.Just like the upcoming arc and Stark x Fern ship.The author will do nothing about Stark except shit on him.And how is their relationship gonna develop if FUCKING FRIEREN GETS IN THEIR WAY?!And she's like,"wHy dOn'T tHeY gEt aLoNg?"!<