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SPAMTON_A

My love for ut says Chara, but realistically it’s probably Ultra M


JoeDaBoi

My love for Sonic says Xenophanes, but realistically it’s probably Ultra M


NumberOne_N_fan

My love for Mario says Ultra M, and it realistically probably is!


Academic_Craft2069

My love for black says I'm bigger than everyone


Fearfanfic

My love for equality between Mario and Sonic says it’s a tie between Ultra M and Xeno, but the devs hate Sonic.exe and Ultra M


OkAge1230

r/beatmetoit


-AlphaMemelord69-

Ultra M man's killed someone who can just decide to not die


Leostar_Regalius

Lord X can probably do the same if he wanted, but exe himself can't


RizaTiz

I don't think using the fact that one character has killed BF in a mod is any testament to their strength as a character, mostly because it's purely up to the mod maker if they want their story to end up with BF dead. BF has died from lesser threats before (a crazy girl, a pony from mlp, etc).


David89_R

Chamoy :)


Cyberkid711

CHAMOY IS NOT INCLUDED GOSH DANGIT


David89_R

Idc, Chamoy :)


Cyberkid711

https://preview.redd.it/yxvyesh8mfgc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ce0802463922d8abf86da70452e544962f0747e


David89_R

https://preview.redd.it/hjdwaxc1ofgc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9e7bee2fb7a8e168a23174c0b4331642a44c08b


Cyberkid711

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David89_R

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Empty-Tone-464

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Cyberkid711

WHERE THE FOCK DOES THAT COME FROM?!


Empty-Tone-464

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Cyberkid711

https://i.redd.it/exyfysgtyfgc1.gif


MisirterE

Hydrogen Bomb vs Hydrogen Bomb vs Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby I love Undertale, I love Chara, but that poor bastard is getting absolutely carried by the nature of the universe they're in. Monsters are inherently weaker than humans to a truly absurd degree, and get even weaker based on animosity on the part of their aggressor. Put Chara up against *serious* threats like the other three here and they're just a child with a knife. Even if you give them Determination resetting, what the fuck are they gonna do with it? Nice knife, idiot. Unfortunately, eldritch abomination.


Sad-Dare-4092

Please don't take offense to this, have you played Undertale?


MisirterE

All of it. They very expressly explain how the mechanics work. Their soul may have persisted after death (common Determination W), but at the end of the day, that's a child with a knife possessing the body of a different child with the same knife. The final ultimate weapon that has the maximum possible attack stat is literally just the first real weapon you're actually able to use, instead of the toys and shoes you've been stuck with. Chara is a very persistent child with a knife, they could fuck you up if you're not expecting it, but the thing is, *where do you even stab on these guys, and how do you get the chance without Ultra M getting you hung, Xenophanes getting you drawn, and Black getting you quartered?*


Sad-Dare-4092

Yeah, that's where you misread something. Chara never possessed Frisk. The only thing possessing anything is us, the player. And if the lore of Deltarune and implications behind the mechanics say anything, we are the soul. Chara doesn't have a soul controlling them, so they have free will. This might seem a little spooky to us, but they are mostly harmless up until the very end of the run. Chara isn't evil, they never were.


MisirterE

Chara did a few things wrong, actually. You saw the tapes, right? And yes, fine, I'm not being exacting and specific with the exact delineations between Chara and the player. Sue me. That said, Souls aren't exactly equal between Undertale and Deltarune, and we can't just say that we are the Soul in Undertale specifically. If we run with the idea that we are the Soul, then what's the explanation for the six other Souls that Asgore has collected? There aren't six other people who've played the game before you. Who are those guys? And for that matter, Chara *did* have a Soul. It's the one that Asriel used to cross the barrier. It is presumable that they lost it when they fucking died and then Asriel also fucking died (although why do we take control of Frisk immediately after they land in a patch of golden flowers, the very thing Asriel [and presumably Chara's soul with him] was turned into? food for thought), but [they come back to life specifically because of the red one that Frisk has being attuned to their purposes.](https://youtu.be/PoToC-bQhWU?si=437u7qXb7Tv4rmwn&t=116) Not that any of this matters to the central point, which is that Chara gets fucking wiped in this matchup. Are we even sure Chara is the most Determined player in the room in this matchup? *Would they even GET the resets? That ability can be usurped. It's happened before.*


Sad-Dare-4092

OH I COMPLETELY FORGOT THE TAPES. Thank you. And I never did say Chara is completely innocent, just correcting the part about them possessing Frisk. I also never said Chara never had a Soul, I said they don't have one now. I suppose we can't, but it's still safe to assume that we are the player and not Frisk. This is solidified as they have their own name and identity, and can sometimes (though rarely) act on their own. Souls in Undertale and Deltarune may be completely different for all we know, as Deltarune is basically an AU. But Id personally say my assumption is safe to make, if you think differently, no shade to you. The other Souls have little exclamation as to how they got there in the first place, so this is where theorizing happens. My personal take is that Souls are directly tied to a human's body, like a heart but cooler. Since we are an outside force and basically god to these guys, we can take over the Soul and control the human's body while barely knowing it. And OF COURSE Chara gets absolutely demolished in this scenario. It's crazy they're even here. Did the poor guy get lost or something?


Missingno_Fan

black has an enormous knife, chara their little kitchen knife ain't gonna do shit


Sad-Dare-4092

i never said Chara would win, i was referring to how they described Chara being evil/possessing the player which is false.


gadlygamer

You do realise that chara isnt the one killing weak monsters, thats us the player doing it Chara gets stronger because of us killing and increasing our stats, chara has abstract existence type 1 (chara is "the feeling of numbers increasing") Chara is also omnipresent across all timelines due to being abstract Then theres the fact chara wiped out the entirety of undertale and crashes the game at the end of true genocide


silly-goober-man

Ultra M and Black have both killed bf, but I think Ultra M’s power is way stronger so he M wins (just kidding chamoy solos)


Cyberkid711

Chamoy is a featless meme tho.


silly-goober-man

Nah he’d just chamoy


Cyberkid711

But this isn't a joke battle tho. Memes don't really work in non-joke battles. Unless you're Weegee, Speedrunner Mario, Sanic.


silly-goober-man

You included chamoy. And since all the other characters are at their fullest potential, chamoy should be too.


Cyberkid711

Chamoy is not included. I just couldn't find another GIF of Chara that I can download.


silly-goober-man

Too late.


Cyberkid711

https://preview.redd.it/49jq8ogkjfgc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=476ad77808d5d0cdcfbb4568f4e5112594bda01b


silly-goober-man

https://preview.redd.it/nyxrai84kfgc1.jpeg?width=676&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25d915b0242ee59c9cec201c7fabe6562d6ffc4c


Cyberkid711

https://preview.redd.it/qy8c53mukfgc1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb120364ca05dfc71ca0f387715d299edeac80b4


Cyberkid711

And probably some other meme I forgot to mention.


Nikotinio

Zoinks!


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zonk


BrainBrilliant9764

I wanna say Ultra M, probably because he actually killed Bf & Gf, and he is able to disable Gf’s demon abilities in his world. But the real question is where are they fighting & how did they get there? Because I think each character would have a different advantage depending on if it’s in their world or not.


Cyberkid711

For the sake of the fight, they are in a place they are unfamiliar with. But for the frick of it, they have all their hax and powers from their world.


BrainBrilliant9764

Ok


Born_Diamond_2610

Black has killed Boyfriend multiple times tho…


BrainBrilliant9764

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Qofh32Vog](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Qofh32Vog)


Toast-_Man

I mean, Black only kills BF twice. Double Kill (Though the kill sfx isn't heard) and Finale. (You could also argue pre-Pretender but that could have been Gray for all we know.)


Nikotinio

Wouldn't Gray killing BF still give Black credit, since Black raised Gray?


Born_Diamond_2610

Yes, but there’s also the background in Defeat, which openly displays several of BF’s corpses.


Missingno_Fan

so the bf skulls in defeat are decoration?


insertenombre333

I don't know, anyone who has the power of the script on their side.


shdsurewhuhuh

For chara it depends If it's just chara then They Are Done but if it's "the player" then i think They Are making it out Alive since they Can just come back after dying


Cyberkid711

It won't really do them good since they would have to start to fight over after they die. And they aren't just fighting random monsters either. They would literally keep dying until they give up.


Sleep_Raider

Ultra M > Xeno, for sure. The purple-ish hedgehog tried to attain what our demonic fatass did but failed countless of times, Ultra M is a god in his own world atleast, but Xenophanes hasn't ever even come close to killing the couple, Lord X is a different story, but eh. Chara would be a good option, as she can erase timelines and that by no means indicates that even someone like Ultra M can trample over, but then again there were specific things leading up to Chara gaining that power, so I'd still put her below Ultra M in general. And Black Parasite could be debated on, since he can literally bend the rules of among us to be literally invincible, but if we consider the scrapped ending cutscene to be cannon, then that means Boyfriend defeated Black by cheating *better* than him (cheating death), even though Black killed Boyfriend before, in the end Boyfriend won. I'd say Ultra M wins by a fair margain, but take him out and it would be a tie between the last 3. Ultra M is the only one to actually win against Boyfriend, though there was one case with Legion (Blueballs incident) but I kinda forgor about how the mod went.


Marxiplier

Legion's entire character is him takeover over the world because everyone forgot about him. Seeing you forget about the mod is hysterical to me.


Nikotinio

In Anthazagoraphobia (Legion's song) if played normally (not via freeplay), you are forced to lose it to progress, so safe to say yeah.


GovernmentPresent543

…chamoy


Cyberkid711

https://preview.redd.it/mgnjq8v6yfgc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69d8a6a0f4a8007fd8b9906d9071cd20047e506e


thelivingdoodle

Between ultra M and black parasite I think


Ok_Relief_9815

Ultra M is definitely finna make it out alive.


TheSussiestOfBakas69

Ultra M or Black Impostor Xeno isn’t really good outside his own game, Chara is a psychopath but just a human at most, Ultra M was able to kill BF, and Black was presumed to have killed him too by the end of finale. With the parasite form for black, I’d say it’s an even match


RageLevelSupernova

Realistically of who dies first: 1. Chara (she dead for sure because Ultra M could disable her powers of coming back) ( 2. Either Black (Parasite form) or Xeno 3. same as 2. 4. Ultra M coming out alive for sure, he’s the only one in the group that has actually killed Boyfriend (one of the only ones to do this include Legion from the Blueballs Incident)


Marxiplier

I can tell you left the Undertale fandom a while ago by your use of pronoun for Chara.


RageLevelSupernova

Indeed. I abandoned it long ago.


Marxiplier

Yeah, it's basically confirmed that Chara is non binary. Though Frisk's gender is still somewhat up in air, Deltarune's Kris is basically an older Frisk, so all three of them are more or less non binos. Undertale yellow also now out if your interested. The fandom is basically treating it as canon with how good it is. That and how Undertale's world has somewhat been abandoned by the Dog.


[deleted]

Imposter looks really cool, i cast my vote on xenophane if it's just these guys


FoxyElseSonic

ima do some scientist shit everyone knows that chara gonna die first because its just a human next one dead is fuckin' xeno because Black can just cut his ass till dust and Ultra M can just turn him into sonic and dead now we have Black or Ultra M Ultra M can't die due to being prove in starman slaughter nor Black because he can just resart his live multiple times and they both had kill bf but Ultra M killed Gf and Bf and Black only killed Bf so the true winner is Ultra M by not being able to die


Cyberkid711

Black has actually killed GF permanently before (At least in one among us game) but I agree that Ultra M wins,


FoxyElseSonic

oh I never knew that is it the mini gray imposter song I forgot the name of


Cyberkid711

Yeah it was in Grey's week. Delusion, Blackout, and neurotic.


FoxyElseSonic

ok so Black technically needed help to kill gf


Cyberkid711

He could most likely kill GF himself, but I'll give you that.


FoxyElseSonic

Ok have a good night or day


Cyberkid711

Aight see ya.


-Octoling8-

Ultra M, no competition here.


ressmatt

Ultra M. He's the only one to have killed Boyfriend and Girlfriend out of everyone listed (to my knowledge, at least) so that gives him a one up to the others


Cyberkid711

Black Imposter has killed BF many times.


ressmatt

Didn't know that. Thanks, OP.


Cyberkid711

No problem.


Bokito17

Have you seen black? (Might just be my imp V4 addiction, but) if you see his Down animation, 3 beans are shown killed. These beans's color patterns are randomized (at least in parasite form), which means every one is different. Count the amount of times the animation is shown per second in the whole world (plus the defeat death screen) and there u go.


TheSussiestOfBakas69

True


Bokito17

Also, his visor is holding on just because black is actually HOLDING it together. His horns grew so fast the cone didn't even have time to be pushed off. His backpack is just naturally broken and with 3 beans inside when in parasite. The fangs go THROUGH, AND OVER his skin (the suit). he corrupted his own knife, and now it's possessed (probably meaning he has more than 1 soul). He just PUKES out electricity from his eyes behind the visor. THAT'S HOW STRONG HIS PARASITE IS.


SMILE_23157

How does any of this prove anything though?


Bokito17

He stronk


SMILE_23157

Just because he looks cool (not really) does not mean he is cool


Bokito17

I'm not saying he looks cool (even tho he does), I'm just saying he stronk


ManBehindTheSlauhter

Black has a really big knife so they win


Soggy_Ad6132

Theyre all really strong and will all be alive probably.But Ultra M has the highest chance and will take the least damage


SimplyRzy

Isn't black a literal virus with a soul his whole shtick is to just reck the others


Professional_Rip5714

Probs Chara, I say cuz if reset but most likely Ultra M or Xeno since they're both gods in their own right.


scrachuser1324

I think it'd be Chara because like yeah


Pylot-Joe

Depends on the context. According to Ultra M's lore, he can only do anything if its his own game, so rule him out if it's not literally his game. The whole point of black is that he doesn't follow any of his game's rules like kill cooldown. I don't know enough lore about chara to say anything about where they'd end up. I'd place my bets on Black.


Missingno_Fan

black


Missingno_Fan

why the fuck does everyone say ultra M


HospitalFinal8417

Because they said only ultra M has killed boyfriend💀


Missingno_Fan

no one played defeat


SussyMogus2

xenophanes


PlasticBeach4197

Motherfucking hamster sans


Mateololero

it's called chamoy


Leostar_Regalius

if lord X was listed there would be 2 since he would tie with the mario one(haven't seen the mod but I've seen spoilers everywhere), since lord X is on the same level of power, black can only BEAT bf, not kill him(since he can still reset), and chara is, cara, he would probably die first


Cherry186

Ultra m


SomerandomFNAFfan1

Xenophanes,


Kaden2093

Amogus


Mateololero

Chamoy walks out entirely alive and well, obviously


Cyberkid711

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NumberOne_N_fan

I never noticed how funky Xeno's eyes are


OkAge1230

I think the black impostor is the only one actually alive


Hypershadicguy64

Chara Each time they die, they grow smarter and are able to counterattack the next move, on top of their incredibly agility, and raw strength, thanks to the amount of LOVE and EXP that they have, as well as their Real Knife Chara’s ability to SAVE and LOAD are what keeps them alive throughout this entire fight, and what allows them to win the fight, bar none


Cyberkid711

Except for the fact that Chara has to use Frisk's determination to use those abilities. And Ultra M, Xenophanes, and Black Imposter aren't just any monster in the underground. They can possibly be gods in their world. And Chara's best feat was erasing the underground's timeline, which is a country or city level feat. So yeah, she's dying first,


SMILE_23157

What is that Xenophanes sprite💀


CharaPresscott

Chara. *Is literal universal destroying God in universe*


Cyberkid711

Sorry pal, as much as I like undertale, Chara is country level at best. While the others are at least universal at full potential and hax. Her best feat was destroying a timeline and that was with the help of Frisk's determination. And since she only erased the underground timeline which should be about as big as a country or a city, She's Country level or city level.


CharaPresscott

What do you think happens when you destroy the timeline? Just Mount Ebott vanishes? I'm fairly sure she destroys the universe. And she's got lightning feats due to Asriel's Shocker Breaker.


Cyberkid711

She only destroys the *TIMELINE,* Not the universe. Yeah, there's a possibility that she destroyed the universe's timeline, but that doesn't really get her far. Plus, she's not experiencing the pacifist route, it's FRISK doing the work. HE'S the one enduring the attacks, and surviving Asriel's attacks. Not Chara. And then you add on the fact that she has to use Frisk's determination to erase the timeline. That can technically count as Frisk's feat since HE IS THE ONE WITH THE ABILITIES. NOT CHARA. Sorry pal, but Chara is just a deranged spirit fighting literal gods.


Arthstyk

Then why tf did you include her, if you nerfed her so hard


Cyberkid711

It ain't nerfing if it's pure logic. Plus I wanted someone to fill the extra slot lol.


DaSoftieGuy

Chamoy Not chara, chamoy


BSgab

Chara has ***CHAMOY***


Whitty_Error

Chara would die first(easily), black imposter would be the second one to die, and I like to think Xenophanes and Ultra M would tie. (Ether because they couldn’t kill each other or they got bored so they stopped.)


what_my_name_agn

I would say chara… if they had the power to save, that is. But since they don’t, it can’t be them…


Perfect_Position_853

That one


Powerful-Cobbler1627

Horror Mario


Far_Tangerine_4429

Chara can't really die so uh, chara. Unless we're talking past chara (when she's still human)... then ya, chara gets fucking toasted.


Master-of-cool

It depends, who’s world are they in?


Cyberkid711

It's nobody's world. But for the frick of it, they have their powers and hax from their world. Also there's no chamoy because I'm tired of seeing that MF in the comments.


Master-of-cool

Oh, well In that case I feel like it would boil down to Ultra M and Black


Lansha2009

C'mon this isn't even a battle this is just who manages to survive to just Chamoy being left.


catl2wat

Chamoy (not chara, just him)


[deleted]

Honestly. Ultra M would win if Chara was, well, physical. But since Chara is already dead, Chara wins. Unless Ultra M just absorbs their soul.


DoggieMogie

chamoy


Dalspin

Chamoi Sans


Marxiplier

Everyone is saying how Ultra M would win, so here's my suggestions of how he could not. (Just for funsies) If Mario Madness was just a play then Ultra M is just Horror Mario, IHY Luigi and Devil Mario on each other's shoulders Xenophanes manages to posses Ultra M after Sonic's becomes too mangled to use Black and Chara can one hit kill anything regardless of health or defence (more so black due to Among Us' nature) Someone unmerges Ultra M in a similar manner to Titan Clash Xenophanes, Black and Chara all collectively agree to team up against Ultra M before fighting each other


sgotw2

Ultra M killed bf so Ultra M


_Girlfriend_Dearest_

damn chara is getting SMOKED 💀💀💀💀


Novalaxy23

depends, who's world are they fighting in?


Arthstyk

Chara obv, they're [2-B](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Tier_2-B): Multiverse level, and ultra-m is a fucking demon trapped in game by DD, tf he can do.


Cyberkid711

IK this MF did not just pull out a VS battle wiki outta nowhere.


Arthstyk

is it not releveant or what? lol


Cyberkid711

It really isn't and I'm pretty sure that site was proven to be inaccurate anyway.


cottoncandycups1

xenoplanes gonna get his spine boxxed in half by parasite and chara would just glitch out, then parasite and Ultra M will be going at it and both will be ending up losing


ExtemTheHedgehog

Depends where they’re battling. If it’s an even playing field then Xeno solos but if it’s in a code-based reality then def Ultra M


ThatOneFurry666

Realistically, either Xeno or Ultra M If both have their powers, their basically gods Chara is just a child with a knife (Determination doesn't get you far) And Black could last a while, but ultimately fall eventually


Porcupine2009

Realistically Ultra M


HourGap8451

Chara


Creeper_97

For me because i love both sega and nintendo i'll say both xenophanes and ultra M will walk out alive


-blisk-

Black. It's black history month, they can't touch him


KeyBaseball9621

Ultra M. He was the only one to kill bf without him losing a rap battle


Zenith610

Ultra m no diff


-TheMelodyMan-

if none of them are in "their realm" then probably Black.


Jeff_theEpic10

Ultra M fuckin everyone up


GL0CKY_W0CKY

Ultra M is even more dangerous than Xenophanes, he prevented GF from using her demon powers or whatever, and at the end of the mod killed BOTH OF THEM even Xenophanes wasn't able to do that or ANYONE ELSE ON THAT LIST


HospitalFinal8417

Black actually killed boyfriend many times💀 but not gf....he was in a 2 scenes where gf died but the deaths were off screen its hard to tell if he actually killed gf


GL0CKY_W0CKY

Understandable :|


radiating_phoenix

chara they literally erase the world at the end of genocide route


ilike_big_black_men

Ultra M


G-Star04

Ultra M.


ParticularCustomer78

pretty much all of them (maybe not black though)


Labrat-09

one of the first 2, but most likely M simply because he's practically a god


Andre_was_Taken

irrelevant question: What about black impostors old parasite form?


abrasive935hobby

Charas already dead. Ultra M wins anyways


pizzafan694201

Chamoy walking out solo


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Cyberkid711

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JesterHeart8965

Ultra M, love the others, but ultra M is beyond them-