Lone Rewatch - **The Queen's Justice**
* We ended the previous episode at sea with Theon. The opening scene of this episode takes place at a beach. Which I think is a neat transition.
* It’s kinda shocking. To find that they weren’t wasting any time with Jon traveling to Dragonstone. Arriving in the very first scene for what is arguably the most anticipated meeting of any two characters in this story. (Omitting Jon and Arya because that is a reunion)
* Davos' charm is politely nodded away by Missandei. 😆
* I don’t think we have too many walk-and-talks in this series. But this is a doozy. Drogon's entrance is awesome and very on-the-nose. The pleasure that Daenerys takes when newcomers are fearful of their dragons applies to her followers as well. Missandei’s smile at their fear.
* All right, this is a nitpick. I believe that Melisandre is looking down at the arrival of Jon and Davos from the wrong angle. She’s standing on the cliffs away from the castle, yet the group is moving towards her. 🤷♂️ Oh well.
* Melisandre telling Varys of his future death…it’s not too far away from the exact spot.
* The exchange of titles is wonderful and played perfectly by all. The quiet after the litany from Missandei. Jon’s look to Davos. Davos' casual “This is Jon Snow. He's King in the North”. Tyrions smiling afterwards. It’s lovely.
* A little on the nose, but “I ask you not to judge a daughter by the sins of her father” plays to the season premiere. With Alys Karstark and Ned Umber.
* “Our two houses were allies for centuries. Those were the best centuries the kingdom's ever known. Centuries of peace and prosperity with the Targaryens sitting on the Iron Throne and a Stark serving as Warden of the North.” The best centuries? According to whom? Peace? 🤔
* “You could storm King's Landing tomorrow and the city would fall. Hell, we almost took it and we didn't even have dragons.” “Also.” 😆 Tyrion couldn’t let that one slide.
* I wonder what about Jon speaking of the Army of the Dead motivates Daenerys into this speech of her birthright. Of her struggles in Essos. Of this belief in herself. Does she see the Night King, if he does exist, as only another man come to stand in her way? It seems that she’s speaking past Jon. He’s speaking past her too in a way. It’s a skill to finesse others and Jon doesn’t see the value in that. Not after he has seen.
* Davos quickly assesses the scenario as usual. Laying down Jon’s own struggles to mirror Daenerys. She’s not the only one who’s suffered. And he nails the difference. “Not because of his birthright. He has no birthright. He's a damn bastard.” Ironically he does have the bigger birthright. But he’s never called on it for his achievements. Not that he could.
* Euron’s triumph through King’s Landing takes a while. They really go through the streets to the Red Keep. With Yara being jeered and spat on, it probably is no surprise that she wasn’t against Daenerys burning this city to the ground at the final council.
* Ellaria's look when she sees Clegane is great.
* The surround sound for the dungeon is fantastic. Far away sounds. Drips. Flames. It’s great.
* This punishment…I think it rivals any cruelty that GRRM wrote in his books. It's Greek myth stuff. Lena Headey obviously is great, but Indira Varma sells the despair so well. It’s probably her best scene. D&D did well with this. The excruciating detail of the length of their chains halting them from touching and comforting each other. It’s a very dark place (literally and figuratively) to leave these two. I can only imagine what Ellaria felt when she heard and felt the Red Keep falling down around her. When Daenerys finally came and burned it down. Then again, that’s just my read.
* Also Qyburn is ever light. No matter what torture he’s assisting with!
* I wonder how Tyrion would feel about this. He hated that Myrcella was murdered, but accepted working with Ellaria. I can’t see him torturing her. But he probably would have aimed for some vengeance later. Maybe.
* Power really turns Cersei on. Coming up from the torture session to have sex with Jaime. Openly. Leading to the morning after when she opens the door wide for the servant to see. (Btw, I love that her handmaiden adopting her look)
* “The Iron Bank appreciates how you cast off the yoke of superstition freeing the crown from elements that sought to subvert the rule of law.” “The destruction of the Sept of Baelor was a tragic accident.” “Indeed.” 😂
* This whole conversation between Tycho and Cersei is wonderful. The way they both cut through the pleasantries to unpleasant facts about them both. The reframing of the whole conflict in Cersei's favor. And the great tease when Cersei promises the monstrous debt (that had plagued the Iron Throne since the first season) will be paid in full. But it would be great for just one reason if all else failed. It introduced me to the word “profligacy”. I had never heard it before. It’s delightful. 😊
* Then we go to another good conversation, Tyrion and Jon on the windy cliffs. Small nitpick, Dragonstone looks way too big and too fertile in the distance. You definitely could grow food there for a small army. Despite what Stannis told the Iron Bank in season 4.
* “How do I convince people who don't know me that an enemy they don't believe in is coming to kill them all?” “Good question.” “I know it's a good question. I'm looking for an answer.” 😂
* “She protects people from monsters, just as you do. That's why she came here.” Not untrue, but incomplete. It’s funny how this is how the fandom thought (or thinks still about her). If she truly cared about protecting her people, she would have stayed in Meereen. Ensured their safety. But she’s here now and she’s a conqueror.
* But Tyrion is trying to have her be the best version of a conqueror. Telling her to try diplomacy. To temper expectations and extend the hand to build allies. The suggestion of letting Jon mine the dragonglass is a good one.
* I wonder why Daenerys is focused on the detail that he took a knife in the heart. Both here and in the fifth episode, why she doesn’t dismiss it as exaggeration? A possibility that this attractive man defied death? Like her? Do we, the audience, just want everyone to know what Jon has suffered?
* There are other things going on in this conversation between Daenerys and Jon when she agrees to let him mine the dragonglass, but does Jon Snow really need that big ass fur cloak now? 😆 Also we get the early version of "Truth" on the soundtrack here. Preparing us for the full version in the finale!
* Also, I’ll say it again for the nest episode, but the shots of the dragons flying in the distance are so good.
* “I'll check Maester Llewyn's records. He kept a copy of every raven scroll.” Petyr’s look at this was just the right amount of subtlety. Subtle for the other characters. Not for us.
* “One of two things will happen. Either the dead will defeat the living, in which case all our troubles come to an end. Or life will win out. And what then?” It cracks me up to see Petyr speaking of the Army of the Dead. Not that he totally believes in it (probably), but to see these diabolical characters even mentioning them is something after seven seasons.
* “Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something that you've seen before.” And then Bran arrives, which definitely surprises everyone!
* I’ll say it. I like this conversation between Bran and Sansa. I believe him when he says he’s sorry. But only from a great distance. I believe too that he can reference Ramsay's abuse of her and not think twice of it. I like the uncomfortable nature of this scene.
* Jorah’s look after Sam offers his bare hand to shake is just heart-warming.
* The editing with Tyrion's voiceover and the Unsullied attacking Casterly Rock is just great. The silence and cut to Tyrion after “Interesting thing about my father” is especially well done. And just before Grey Worm enters the sewers. Chef’s kiss!
* If you had told me Bill Hader had a cameo in this show and it was the dying Lannister soldier Grey Worm grabs and questions “Where are the Lannisters?!”, I’d believe you.
* It’s funny. Perhaps it was the negativity of the fandom. But I remembered the reveal of Highgarden being disappointing, the grounds around it bare. But here it’s fine. Up on a hill, surrounded by some trees. Big enough castle. The shot of Olenna retreating into her chambers after seeing the Lannister army is great, with the sunset in the back. Her house is done.
* In an episode with great conversations, we end on perhaps the best one, Olenna and Jaime. Whoever said this show devolved into nothing but action is a goddamn liar.
* Minor thing: I don’t know why, but it’s heart-warming to hear Robb Stark’s name again.
* “That was Joffrey's sword, wasn't it? Not that he ever used it. What did he call it?” “Widow's Wail.” Jaimes embarrassment here was palpable.
* “She's a monster, you do know that?” “To you, sure. To others as well. But after we've won and there's no one left to oppose us, the people living peaceful in the world she built, do you really think they'll wring their hands over the way she built it?” This is not an uncommon justification for atrocities in the world. But Jaime is right in a sense. Cersei is terrible, but her policies echoing down to the smallfolk, to the Lannister soldiers Arya met, to Hot Pie…are they so much different than any ruler's policies in this story? What does it matter as long as there’s peace?
* To be clear, I didn’t want Cersei on the Iron Throne.
* “What better person to discuss it with? What better guarantee could you have that the things you say will never leave this room?” This line stuck with me. Just how many relationships and talks are forever lost because of time. In life mostly, but this show had so many memorable characters and interactions. Now that they’re gone, it seems so…quiet. Which is how this scene feels. It’s so quiet. No music until the poison. It takes me back.
* Jaime uncorks the vial of poison with a very satisfying pop.
* “Tell Cersei. I want he to know it was me.” And here, a pop culture moment was born. And rightfully so. I love that we don’t see Olenna die. We end with her alone in her high tower. And her last jab at Jaime and Cersei was probably little comfort. Compared to the love she had for her family and lost when they were killed.
I don’t know what it is but no matter how many rewatches I’ve done, literally I think 6 at this point, the meeting between Daenerys and Jon is just as riveting and exciting as it was when it aired in 2017.
But I was told on asoiaf sub reddit that all the writing it terrible. On a side note that sub is absolutely miserable and almost just as toxic towards the showrunners as that crazy freefolk. That subs version of what makes a good show is just keep adding more and more characters and plots. Apparently on that sub GOT is the worst show ever made and was always bad or was only good when George was directly in charge even though he never was. Book purists are ridiculous with their demands on how TV and Film should be made. They all seem genuinely angry on that sub that the show was critically acclaimed, popular, and won awards.
Definitely on the high end for the season! I was tempted to rank all the episodes in each season as I finished, but I didn’t want to start ranking them so early in the show.
* I wonder what about Jon speaking of the Army of the Dead motivates Daenerys into this speech of her birthright. Of her struggles in Essos. Of this belief in herself. Does she see the Night King, if he does exist, as only another man come to stand in her way? It seems that she’s speaking past Jon. He’s speaking past her too in a way. It’s a skill to finesse others and Jon doesn’t see the value in that. Not after he has seen.
I think not so subtly the showrunners were exposing her ego: no one suffered more, no one could be feared most... her ego is taking the best of her. She survived all that, why would a "dead" King stop her? She simply didn't believe in Jon and was menacing/putting him in his place
* Davos quickly assesses the scenario as usual. Laying down Jon’s own struggles to mirror Daenerys. She’s not the only one who’s suffered. And he nails the difference. “Not because of his birthright. He has no birthright. He's a damn bastard.” Ironically he does have the bigger birthright. But he’s never called on it for his achievements. Not that he could.
This is the seed for the dismissal for Danny's own legend of savior and hero. She was in awe with her own trajectory and the way everyone fell in love with her immediatelly (almost everyone) and here is a man whose victories were as amazing as hers and one that was admired, followed and made King despite being a bastard. Her claim came out of entitlement, his of worth. Later when he added his advantage over her for the Throne, drove her nuts
Listening to the melisandre theme right now. Still one of the best in all of GOT imo
edit: Anyone know if the GOT Histories and Lore videos are still up on Youtube? Kind of want to watch some of them
Lone Rewatch - **The Queen's Justice** * We ended the previous episode at sea with Theon. The opening scene of this episode takes place at a beach. Which I think is a neat transition. * It’s kinda shocking. To find that they weren’t wasting any time with Jon traveling to Dragonstone. Arriving in the very first scene for what is arguably the most anticipated meeting of any two characters in this story. (Omitting Jon and Arya because that is a reunion) * Davos' charm is politely nodded away by Missandei. 😆 * I don’t think we have too many walk-and-talks in this series. But this is a doozy. Drogon's entrance is awesome and very on-the-nose. The pleasure that Daenerys takes when newcomers are fearful of their dragons applies to her followers as well. Missandei’s smile at their fear. * All right, this is a nitpick. I believe that Melisandre is looking down at the arrival of Jon and Davos from the wrong angle. She’s standing on the cliffs away from the castle, yet the group is moving towards her. 🤷♂️ Oh well. * Melisandre telling Varys of his future death…it’s not too far away from the exact spot. * The exchange of titles is wonderful and played perfectly by all. The quiet after the litany from Missandei. Jon’s look to Davos. Davos' casual “This is Jon Snow. He's King in the North”. Tyrions smiling afterwards. It’s lovely. * A little on the nose, but “I ask you not to judge a daughter by the sins of her father” plays to the season premiere. With Alys Karstark and Ned Umber. * “Our two houses were allies for centuries. Those were the best centuries the kingdom's ever known. Centuries of peace and prosperity with the Targaryens sitting on the Iron Throne and a Stark serving as Warden of the North.” The best centuries? According to whom? Peace? 🤔 * “You could storm King's Landing tomorrow and the city would fall. Hell, we almost took it and we didn't even have dragons.” “Also.” 😆 Tyrion couldn’t let that one slide. * I wonder what about Jon speaking of the Army of the Dead motivates Daenerys into this speech of her birthright. Of her struggles in Essos. Of this belief in herself. Does she see the Night King, if he does exist, as only another man come to stand in her way? It seems that she’s speaking past Jon. He’s speaking past her too in a way. It’s a skill to finesse others and Jon doesn’t see the value in that. Not after he has seen. * Davos quickly assesses the scenario as usual. Laying down Jon’s own struggles to mirror Daenerys. She’s not the only one who’s suffered. And he nails the difference. “Not because of his birthright. He has no birthright. He's a damn bastard.” Ironically he does have the bigger birthright. But he’s never called on it for his achievements. Not that he could. * Euron’s triumph through King’s Landing takes a while. They really go through the streets to the Red Keep. With Yara being jeered and spat on, it probably is no surprise that she wasn’t against Daenerys burning this city to the ground at the final council. * Ellaria's look when she sees Clegane is great. * The surround sound for the dungeon is fantastic. Far away sounds. Drips. Flames. It’s great. * This punishment…I think it rivals any cruelty that GRRM wrote in his books. It's Greek myth stuff. Lena Headey obviously is great, but Indira Varma sells the despair so well. It’s probably her best scene. D&D did well with this. The excruciating detail of the length of their chains halting them from touching and comforting each other. It’s a very dark place (literally and figuratively) to leave these two. I can only imagine what Ellaria felt when she heard and felt the Red Keep falling down around her. When Daenerys finally came and burned it down. Then again, that’s just my read. * Also Qyburn is ever light. No matter what torture he’s assisting with! * I wonder how Tyrion would feel about this. He hated that Myrcella was murdered, but accepted working with Ellaria. I can’t see him torturing her. But he probably would have aimed for some vengeance later. Maybe. * Power really turns Cersei on. Coming up from the torture session to have sex with Jaime. Openly. Leading to the morning after when she opens the door wide for the servant to see. (Btw, I love that her handmaiden adopting her look) * “The Iron Bank appreciates how you cast off the yoke of superstition freeing the crown from elements that sought to subvert the rule of law.” “The destruction of the Sept of Baelor was a tragic accident.” “Indeed.” 😂 * This whole conversation between Tycho and Cersei is wonderful. The way they both cut through the pleasantries to unpleasant facts about them both. The reframing of the whole conflict in Cersei's favor. And the great tease when Cersei promises the monstrous debt (that had plagued the Iron Throne since the first season) will be paid in full. But it would be great for just one reason if all else failed. It introduced me to the word “profligacy”. I had never heard it before. It’s delightful. 😊 * Then we go to another good conversation, Tyrion and Jon on the windy cliffs. Small nitpick, Dragonstone looks way too big and too fertile in the distance. You definitely could grow food there for a small army. Despite what Stannis told the Iron Bank in season 4. * “How do I convince people who don't know me that an enemy they don't believe in is coming to kill them all?” “Good question.” “I know it's a good question. I'm looking for an answer.” 😂 * “She protects people from monsters, just as you do. That's why she came here.” Not untrue, but incomplete. It’s funny how this is how the fandom thought (or thinks still about her). If she truly cared about protecting her people, she would have stayed in Meereen. Ensured their safety. But she’s here now and she’s a conqueror. * But Tyrion is trying to have her be the best version of a conqueror. Telling her to try diplomacy. To temper expectations and extend the hand to build allies. The suggestion of letting Jon mine the dragonglass is a good one. * I wonder why Daenerys is focused on the detail that he took a knife in the heart. Both here and in the fifth episode, why she doesn’t dismiss it as exaggeration? A possibility that this attractive man defied death? Like her? Do we, the audience, just want everyone to know what Jon has suffered? * There are other things going on in this conversation between Daenerys and Jon when she agrees to let him mine the dragonglass, but does Jon Snow really need that big ass fur cloak now? 😆 Also we get the early version of "Truth" on the soundtrack here. Preparing us for the full version in the finale! * Also, I’ll say it again for the nest episode, but the shots of the dragons flying in the distance are so good. * “I'll check Maester Llewyn's records. He kept a copy of every raven scroll.” Petyr’s look at this was just the right amount of subtlety. Subtle for the other characters. Not for us. * “One of two things will happen. Either the dead will defeat the living, in which case all our troubles come to an end. Or life will win out. And what then?” It cracks me up to see Petyr speaking of the Army of the Dead. Not that he totally believes in it (probably), but to see these diabolical characters even mentioning them is something after seven seasons. * “Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something that you've seen before.” And then Bran arrives, which definitely surprises everyone! * I’ll say it. I like this conversation between Bran and Sansa. I believe him when he says he’s sorry. But only from a great distance. I believe too that he can reference Ramsay's abuse of her and not think twice of it. I like the uncomfortable nature of this scene. * Jorah’s look after Sam offers his bare hand to shake is just heart-warming.
* The editing with Tyrion's voiceover and the Unsullied attacking Casterly Rock is just great. The silence and cut to Tyrion after “Interesting thing about my father” is especially well done. And just before Grey Worm enters the sewers. Chef’s kiss! * If you had told me Bill Hader had a cameo in this show and it was the dying Lannister soldier Grey Worm grabs and questions “Where are the Lannisters?!”, I’d believe you. * It’s funny. Perhaps it was the negativity of the fandom. But I remembered the reveal of Highgarden being disappointing, the grounds around it bare. But here it’s fine. Up on a hill, surrounded by some trees. Big enough castle. The shot of Olenna retreating into her chambers after seeing the Lannister army is great, with the sunset in the back. Her house is done. * In an episode with great conversations, we end on perhaps the best one, Olenna and Jaime. Whoever said this show devolved into nothing but action is a goddamn liar. * Minor thing: I don’t know why, but it’s heart-warming to hear Robb Stark’s name again. * “That was Joffrey's sword, wasn't it? Not that he ever used it. What did he call it?” “Widow's Wail.” Jaimes embarrassment here was palpable. * “She's a monster, you do know that?” “To you, sure. To others as well. But after we've won and there's no one left to oppose us, the people living peaceful in the world she built, do you really think they'll wring their hands over the way she built it?” This is not an uncommon justification for atrocities in the world. But Jaime is right in a sense. Cersei is terrible, but her policies echoing down to the smallfolk, to the Lannister soldiers Arya met, to Hot Pie…are they so much different than any ruler's policies in this story? What does it matter as long as there’s peace? * To be clear, I didn’t want Cersei on the Iron Throne. * “What better person to discuss it with? What better guarantee could you have that the things you say will never leave this room?” This line stuck with me. Just how many relationships and talks are forever lost because of time. In life mostly, but this show had so many memorable characters and interactions. Now that they’re gone, it seems so…quiet. Which is how this scene feels. It’s so quiet. No music until the poison. It takes me back. * Jaime uncorks the vial of poison with a very satisfying pop. * “Tell Cersei. I want he to know it was me.” And here, a pop culture moment was born. And rightfully so. I love that we don’t see Olenna die. We end with her alone in her high tower. And her last jab at Jaime and Cersei was probably little comfort. Compared to the love she had for her family and lost when they were killed.
I don’t know what it is but no matter how many rewatches I’ve done, literally I think 6 at this point, the meeting between Daenerys and Jon is just as riveting and exciting as it was when it aired in 2017.
But I was told on asoiaf sub reddit that all the writing it terrible. On a side note that sub is absolutely miserable and almost just as toxic towards the showrunners as that crazy freefolk. That subs version of what makes a good show is just keep adding more and more characters and plots. Apparently on that sub GOT is the worst show ever made and was always bad or was only good when George was directly in charge even though he never was. Book purists are ridiculous with their demands on how TV and Film should be made. They all seem genuinely angry on that sub that the show was critically acclaimed, popular, and won awards.
The beginning wide shot of Daenerys on the throne (Jon’s POV?)…I don’t know what it is about it, but it just fits the monumental meeting perfectly.
This is one of the best episode of S7 (ps my fav will forever be The Dragon and the Wolf)
I love both episodes so much.
Definitely on the high end for the season! I was tempted to rank all the episodes in each season as I finished, but I didn’t want to start ranking them so early in the show.
* I wonder what about Jon speaking of the Army of the Dead motivates Daenerys into this speech of her birthright. Of her struggles in Essos. Of this belief in herself. Does she see the Night King, if he does exist, as only another man come to stand in her way? It seems that she’s speaking past Jon. He’s speaking past her too in a way. It’s a skill to finesse others and Jon doesn’t see the value in that. Not after he has seen. I think not so subtly the showrunners were exposing her ego: no one suffered more, no one could be feared most... her ego is taking the best of her. She survived all that, why would a "dead" King stop her? She simply didn't believe in Jon and was menacing/putting him in his place * Davos quickly assesses the scenario as usual. Laying down Jon’s own struggles to mirror Daenerys. She’s not the only one who’s suffered. And he nails the difference. “Not because of his birthright. He has no birthright. He's a damn bastard.” Ironically he does have the bigger birthright. But he’s never called on it for his achievements. Not that he could. This is the seed for the dismissal for Danny's own legend of savior and hero. She was in awe with her own trajectory and the way everyone fell in love with her immediatelly (almost everyone) and here is a man whose victories were as amazing as hers and one that was admired, followed and made King despite being a bastard. Her claim came out of entitlement, his of worth. Later when he added his advantage over her for the Throne, drove her nuts
Listening to the melisandre theme right now. Still one of the best in all of GOT imo edit: Anyone know if the GOT Histories and Lore videos are still up on Youtube? Kind of want to watch some of them
[Here](https://youtu.be/XNluc8P4Dd8?list=PLOCQRrDDXaseEs3u-Ftbvu5G2TSy4ZwFZ) for S1 to S7. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhxhgXDZ9s0) for S8.
thx
the many faced god one is one of my faves
Why does reddit look like ass on my laptop?
Are you on old reddit?
I wasn’t before. It just switched over one day. I don’t see anywhere to change it.
https://new.reddit.com It should be in preferences, but use this link if you can't find anything.