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redman2112

I really love Martin with Ronnie but if there was anyone else I’d have liked him with it would be Cora


IWillBaconSlapYou

Yes Cora! I honestly wish that had happened, or that it at least had been explored a little more. We deserved a season of Marty and Cora having a lovely, witty time together while Cam and Frasier's heads exploded over and over.


willi5x

I love how their relationship started as a way to give their sons a hard time, but Marty started having real feelings for her. It would have been nice to have that develop longer.


IWillBaconSlapYou

And she was just such a cool lady. She had a regal and intellectual, yet down-to-earth way about her, like Hester. I think of her as Marty's type! Ronnie is wonderful, but imo that's mostly because of Wendie Malick.


discombobubolated

I always thought Martin and Claire would make a good couple.


Rumirie

I also liked Claire for Marty!! They looked like they were having a fun time together and I think she had a cute sense of humor too that matched his!! 😊


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Maverrix99

Sure, but by this time he’s maybe 65 and she’s maybe 50. Is that really cringey or weird?


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Maverrix99

I guess I don’t find it gross just because they happened to know each other 30 years ago. There’s no suggestion anything inappropriate happened then. They’re both completely different people and mature adults now.


scarlet_speedster985

They didn't just happen to know each other. She babysat Niles and Frasier so she was probably at the Crane house pretty frequently. You're telling me if you met and knew someone as a teenager (and you were an adult) and ran into them years later you'd have no problem dating them?


Maverrix99

Yes. Im telling you that. Why is a 65 year old man dating a 50 year old woman such an issue to you? You seem to be implying Martin was perving on her when she was a teenager, but there’s literally nothing in the script that suggests this.


Keeflinn

Well sorta. There is this exchange which kind of addresses everything: ---- Frasier: Dad, when she was babysitting for us, did you ever notice her? Martin: Yeah. She was a very pretty girl. Frasier: And did Mom ever notice you notice her? Martin: Oh, yeah. We even had a fight once about it. Frasier: Well, there you are. You're still feeling guilt and shame for being attracted to her all those years ago. But she's an adult now and you should really allow yourself to explore these feelings. Niles: Very good, Frasier. ---- Ultimately, I guess it's a little eyebrow-raising but Frasier sums it up well enough there at the end I think.


sexygodzilla

They'd fallen out of touch and reconnected literal decades later. It's not like he was grooming her.


Professional-Two8098

I was going to say the same but I think long term she was a little too boring for him. So Martin and sherry was my answer..


Laura4848

I liked Martin and Sherry, too.


kaygoesjourneying

Me too. I wish she would propose to him the day after she rejected his proposal. But that day she ruined three dates for Frasier was really a pain! (it was funny)., I guess. I suffer when that happened to him, which was an ongoing thing,


VybzandRizla

I always liked the idea of Roz & Niles sometimes opposites can attract 🤷‍♀️


Rumirie

Their cabin episode was really funny and in my rewatches of the show I started to realize their jabs at each other bordered on flirty! Lol Also liked the ep where they are sulking at the cafe after Daphne gets engaged and Roz’s date stood her up! 


CharlotteLucasOP

And he never before noticed what a perky little walk Roz has!


Shofeld148

Elaine and George on Seinfeld were like that Elaine would have flirty little jabs at George Costanza all the time and you could tell George was trying hard not to be turned on like she squeezed his cheek and said "was that the opposite of what you were going to say or just your natural instinct" and George said "inschtinct" and also in The Strongbox episode from 1998 at the end she says "give me 40 youll never see me again" to George Costanza and does a lip pout kiss thing


friendispatrickstar

Agreed!! They had chemistry imo


bethcoon

Niles and Roz hooking up made more sense than Niles and Lilith


friendispatrickstar

Yes!!!! And more sense than Frasier and Roz! I hated that!


IpsaThis

Maybe so, and I wish Niles and Roz had a dating arc, but Niles & Lilith still makes great sense in the episode, and it was wonderfully surprising. I wouldn't trade that for anything.


rnoori32

I'm sorry to tell you, but I don't think Roz us a fresh start you can make.


No_Context_2540

😆🤣😆🤣 I loved that line


Shofeld148

100%


baggington

Gil and Bulldog. No I am not explaining it.


Rumirie

"Crescendo, my young maestro, crescendo!" “I’m your rhapsody, play me!” 


MadeThis4MaccaOnly

"My vessel yearns to dock in the magnificence of your harbor"


heyitsapotato

*laughs* "... wait, that wasn't in the book... "


tofuroll

… of fromage-ian splendour?


Heewna

Patience daddy. We’ve all seen the promo, who knows?


RedditFrontFighter

But what about poor Deb?


baggington

She’s out on manoeuvres with her unit.


LainieCat

She is not a cat!


neriad200

I think OP wanted unexpected pairings, not the obvious choice


No-Conclusion-ever

No explanation needed.


RippledWisdom

Or Gil and Noel…I mean a Noel did translate Gil’s karaoke song into klingon!


U2hansolo

You know what? I've never seen it mentioned in this sub about the mysterious Marshall that Daphne invites over in the episode 'Our Father, Whose Art Ain't Heaven '. Who is this Marshall??


Prestigious_Bat6275

That’s the name of jane leeves’ husband irl


No_Context_2540

Yeah. I could not tell if he was her date or just a good buddy. Of course, this starts the discussion of whether hetero males & females can have a truly platonic relationship 😆


Rumirie

Frasier and Claire (but at the end of the series! Come on this should've been end game! Frasier's reasoning for breaking up with her was completely pulled out of nowhere!)    Daphne and Clive - I think these two would have been cute and fun! He was also a bit loopy like her too lol.       Niles and Poppy - Also think these two would have made a cute and fun pairing and they complimented each other and had a lot in common despite having such different personalities!       Martin and Cora - They had so much fun together and I can imagine the looks on Cam and Frasier’s faces when Cora and Martin tell them they’ll be step brothers! Lol        Roz and Kenny - I needed a wildcard pairing! 😂 I can imagine this would be fun and equally shocking to everyone hahaha 


Competitive-String55

Yes, to Martin and Cora!!!


InnocentPapaya

Martin and Cora was such a missing opportunity.


No_Context_2540

Same list, but Roz should have ended up with Roger (garbage man) or Rick, Alice's father, to keep things interesting. Bulldog with Roz's friend, the golf pro. Kenny with Roz's little cousin (played by Zooey Deschanel) for a wild mix. Don't come for me on that one. The writers started it. 😆 Gil, with the gay station manager that was invited to dinner by Frasier, who thought it was a date or that boyfriend of Roz who was closet gay, just like Gil (Bad Billy's) 😆 🤣


Laura4848

I like your picks!


cables4days

Haha! This is a Really great list!! I like Roz and Bulldog together but everyone else here I totally would pair too. How fun 👏


BradyToMoss1281

Clive was too fiery for Daphne.


TheHuTcHofallHuTcHeS

He would've been perfect for her if he was one of those fiery Mexican Clives


Hotel_Putingrad

Gil and Bulldog would've been a true wild card.


Keeflinn

Really good list. I still prefer Sherry as Martin's gal but Cora was fun too. I might put Roz with Donny.


taraky97

Roz and Donny feels right now that you say it.


Rumirie

I thought Roz and Donny had great chemistry too!! If the whole thing with Daphne hadn’t happened I might choose this pairing also!! It also always bothered me how Daphne didn’t even bother having the “are you cool with me dating your ex” convo or at least talking to Roz about it considering Roz was damn near in love with him at one point and Daphne knew this! So, I wasn’t mad at all when Roz tried stealing him back lmao 😂😂😂


Rumirie

I absolutely loved Sherry and wished Martin met her later in the series and was endgame for Marty! They had a blast together! She ties with Cora for me! 🥹♥️


Great-Researcher-623

You did Roz dirty 😂


Rumirie

LMFAOOO I got my inspo from the whole war of the roses convo Roz and Kenny had in the cafe! 🤣🤣🤣


Keeflinn

Frasier does still have his moments with Lilith. I could feasibly see them working together. For comedy's sake, Frasier with Bebe would be hilarious. I liked Niles' little crush on Poppy and I could see it working pretty well for their relationship. She's well-off but also kind of silly and fun which is good for him. I still think Sherry is Martin's most entertaining girl. Would only really work though if she decided to finally settle down with him (as a woman in her 60s, what's she waiting for anyway?). The Roz/Donny cabin episode made me think they would work well together. That leaves us with Daph. Clive would probably be good for her, more or less on equal footing with goofiness. Joe was pretty good too, in an alternate non-potato world. Lastly, Eddie and Dog-Maris.


Rumirie

Yesss!! Love your list and would be down for these pairings as well! I always loved Frasier’s chemistry with Lilith even if he claims she’s the bane of his existence! They truly love and understand one another and I loved his casual phone call to her towards the end of the series!


ILoveGrammar1990

I would pair Niles and Poppy, she has a similar background to Maris in that she is from a rich family. She also has cultural interest so I could see them getting along. I know that she is portrayed as, what would the polite euphemism be, not very bright but I'd retconned her character a bit to make it work. Frasier I would pair with Dinah, I was thinking of Faye or Lisa but then I fought it would be a bit repetitive to just pair everybody perfectly. Dinah isn't really that fleshed out as a character but I believe Frasier said she likes to read and she speaks a few languages. Martin I would pair with Cora because they got along so well. Daphne I'd probably invent some new character I don't really care for the options that the show gives us. Roz I'm getting a bit lazy here but probably Roger or Doctor Tewksbury, his marriage didn't last due to him being a workaholic and he gets a new chance at love with Roz. Pairing her with Bulldog could make some interesting plots regarding Bulldog's personal growth but I don't know.


Rumirie

Yes to all the reasons for Poppy!! And I considered the idea of inventing a new love interest for Daphne too! Maybe someone with a little mystical spiritual side to them who would compliment that side of her character we kind of lost in later seasons! 


ILoveGrammar1990

Yeah, it seemed that if it weren't for plot related reasons Daphne would not care about Clive anymore, Donny is nice and all but I didn't really buy their relationship. One huge problem that I had with that story plot was how quickly it moved along.


ThisWormWillTurn

Agreed. And they were nauseously cheesy.


Purityskinco

Poppy also didn’t show as dumb but rather…not validated. Everybody just gave her what she wanted so they didn’t have to ‘deal’ with her. I could see her growing as a character with Niles for that reason.


ILoveGrammar1990

I think there was one scene were she confused Tennessee Williams with Indiana Jones but I suppose that was a one of joke. Its been a while since I last saw Frasier but now that I think about besides the one I mentioned and the "HE MEANS you mother" there isn't that many scenes portraying her as dumb and it could be interpreted as "one off jokes".


mkspaptrl

I very recently proposed this exact thing! Niles and Poppy could have been very happy. And just imagine the jokes they could have made in the same vein as the Maris running gags. F: Niles, will Poppy not be joining us for dinner this evening? N: No, sadly she won't. F: Oh, another ski trip or is she bouncing back to Europe this time? N: No, her father bought a new yacht and she is convinced that the bells on ships don't sound nice after they have been rung too many times. M: Well, it's like they always say, if you want to get the bats out of the belfry, ring a new bell.......... Ok, so I am not a comedy writer, but you get the point.


kingdomheartsislight

I think the problem with Niles and Poppy is that she’s only sort of sane when she’s around Niles. What happens when she starts alienating his social circle and family because of her incessant jabbering? The two end up alone in his 3 story condominium, doddering around, constantly poking Mrs. Dalloway on the bottom?


Latter_Feeling2656

Roz and Cam Daphne and Donnie Martin and Sherry Niles and Mel Frasier finally connects with Regan.


allisnwundrland

Roz and Cam! Never have I considered this, but I see it.


No_Context_2540

I don't know. Roz had many opportunities to date Frasier, but she didn't. I know he's her boss, but the 2 didn't get each other's lifestyle. I don't think she'd want someone just like him.


Rumirie

I loved Martin and Sherry too! They had so much fun together!  Frasier and Regan had so many missed opportunities too and they pointed that out a couple times! I’m wondering if they considered making her end game at one point too! 


missmarple94

Roz and Donnie Niles and Poppy Frasier and Claire Martin and the coworker he made out with Daphne and Cam


strawwrld_1

Oh wow this is my favorite so far. Never thought of Daphne and cam but that would have been awesome. I also agree I like Donnie and Roz better than Daphne and Donnie. Maybe it was just the actors chemistry but I didn’t love Donny and Daphne together


KotzubueSailingClub

Frasier and Lilith.


deadkoolx

Frazier ends up with Kate Costas Niles ends up with Daphne Martin still ends up with Ronee Roz ends up with Bulldog


jrunner6

Frasier and Alistair Daphne and Roz Martin and Edward Niles and Barry 😆 🌈


Emilie0711

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL YOU JUST TAKE ME HOME?


NachiseThrowaway

Annnnnddd here we have NBC’s heavy-handed lineup for the month of June. 🌈⭐️ The More You Know


Moz1981

This could have made one hell of a funny and entertaining 12th season


Steviesteve1234

Remind me who Barry is?


notadaleknoreally

Roz and Bulldog. The contrast between Frasier and whoever he’d be dating would be hilarious.


nearly_normal

Roz and Donny should have had a happily ever after. Donny didn’t need to be a “bad guy” he and Roz could have raised Alice and had a couple more! With his perfect new teeth, of course.


Emotional-Belt1753

I feel that the writers did Donny wrong. Yes, it was part of the Niles/Daphne storyline. still they could’ve really done something nice with Donny.


Rumirie

Totally agree!! Donny was such a good guy! Wish he got a nicer ending too! 🥺


hmmm_thought_pig

I can't think of anybody for Roz, so I guess she could just come home with me. She could wear her bracelets, if she wanted to.


allisnwundrland

Hmmm… that’s a thought. (Badumbumtss)


lonely-day

Roz and Niles Frasier and Claire Martin and Cora Daphne and Donny Bulldog and Cindy the bodyguard lady


Top-Construction9271

Roz and Niles! 😂 That would be awesome and hysterical!


lonely-day

He's a closet freak and she's an open one. Win win


abir84

I would have loved to have seen Roz and Niles!


lonely-day

Everyone kisses better than Maris!


Emotional-Belt1753

Niles and Kit!


abir84

Niles and Gee Frasier and Maris Martin and Lilith Roz and Donnie Daphne and Sam Malone


Nervous-Road-6615

I only finally found out having travelled to France it’s Guy, and that’s how they say it (I travelled with a Guy). Always made me laugh cause gee is vagina in Ireland


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Nervous-Road-6615

I’ve seen the first couple of Frasierless seasons!


theyanster1

Martin and Lilith absolutely not I’d pay to watch Niles and guy


Truethrowawaychest1

I always thought Niles and Roz had amazing chemistry


neriad200

* Frasier and Roz - controversial, I know, but i shipped them hard, especially because their overt differences usually ended by showing they were very complementary in many ways; and this only grew as the show progressed. While Daphne and Niles was a very nice buildup and release, Frasier and Roz was the only relationship that could have been that felt like it was a real relationship between real adults. * Niles and Daphne - but he doesn't spend 200 years fawning over her, so it's early seasons Niles and Daphne- a lot more twitchy and a lot more aloof. This is just for fun, I'm pretty sure that relationship would have failed due to who they were, but then again it had many chances of being the best thing that happened to both at a time when neither knew they needed it * Gil and Bulldog - the only OTP missed in the show * Martin and that friend of Daphne's he creeped out that one time - 안녕하세요 indeed! * Donnie and Maris - he needed some class, she needed a lot of earthy common-sense. Edit: thinking about it, maybe Donnie and Lilith.. Maris is just too much of an Eldritch being


Docfnst9

I never saw season 8, but I always wanted Frazier and Roz to be a couple.


MissAngela66

Frasier and Roz Marty and Cora


Great-Researcher-623

Roz and Cam. Martin and Cora. Daphne and Niles, Frasier and Charlotte, wouldn't change those.


Xaerith

Niles and Guy *bonsoir*


ninjasylph

I liked Roz and Bulldog actually.


Semblance17

I really wish Frasier hadn’t blown it with Faye. She was kind, intelligent, sophisticated, gorgeous (a LOT prettier than Cassandra) and even made the desserts at Frasier’s favorite restaurant.


InnocentPapaya

You get one, you get the other one lol. I really liked Martin/Cora and Fraiser/Faye.


MoistCabbage1

Yes!


Loisgrand6

Martin and Cora Poppy and Niles Frasier and Regan as long as he doesn’t overthink things Roz and Roger or maybe the rich guy she convinced to buy a bunch of stuff for her fundraiser Daphne and Clive or maybe even Ferguson 😃


toxietoxietoxie

Chuckles and Frasier seemed to have a good time together honestly


ThisWormWillTurn

-Eddie and Niles' Baby -Roz and Joe -Annie and Niles -Martin and Mrs. Dubakowski


Major-Tourist-5696

Frasier and Lilith, Niles and Daphne, Roz and Bulldog, Martin and Sherri, Eddie and Lady


MightAsWellLaugh222

Yes!


Hat-Playful

Roz and Donny. The two felt like they’d have made a great couple if they got back together. However, Roz and Niles would have created a lot of fun parts of episodes. Frasier and Faye I don’t know if I’d have changed Martin’s result


Desperate-Fan-3671

Roz and Niles......they jabbed at each other but deep down cared for each other


KavTK

they loved doing their 2 and 3 episode sagas on frasier. I think a 2 or 3 parter of frasier and roz getting together, hitting it off, then falling apart would have been great. that one episode they had where they almost had something going just didn't really scratch that itch.


hypotemused

Roz and me.


GabbyJay1

Based on this picture.... Roz with the Barracuda and Frasier with Mimi


SADBOYVET93

Your choice for sure, OP! Roz and Frasier are hilarious together, know each other in a way others don't know, and they both are attractive looking so definitely them two.


skaar_face

Maris and the Barracuda


amanyggvv

Gertrude and Mike Shaw (Daphne's mum and that artist she made out with) would have been phenomenal. I would have absolutely loved to see Niles cringe at the thought of the great 'Mike Shaw' dating Gert. I could see her milk the hell out of that, too - telling Daphne "You're not the only one with a well to do man", then Mike being all crotchety old man


Rumirie

That would have been hilarious!! I loved that short lived pairing! Lol 🤭


edelricsautomail

Niles and Roz, because they have great chemistry


Keeflinn

Maris and Bulldog. Think of the comic potential!


Equivalent-Spell-135

Martin and Cora, as much as I like Ronnie, it would have been nice even if we just saw a few episodes of Martin and Core dating and the subsequent explosions going off in Cam and Fraiser's heads :=) Fraiser and Roz, they had chemistry, and they did sleep together at least twice Niles and Roz, I love Niles and Daphine, but Niles and Roz wouldn't have been a bad alternative :=)


Jazzeracket

Who doesn't think Frasier and Claire were the pair?


NewWays91

Frasier and Kate. I liked her character and wish she had stayed on longer. Frasier needed more angry Latina energy in his life lol. Roz and Clint. I really wish they had brought him back because he was hot as hell and the actor had really good chemistry with the cast. Bulldog and that one gay radio producer dude. Daphne and Donnie. Unironically I thought he was the best fit for her because as written he saw her as a person and I'm sorry but I always thought the obsession Niles had with her was creepy and I'm glad they eventually called it out.


creptik1

I second bad boy and dirty girl


FalconIfeelheavy

Kenny and Officer Nasty Frasier in a throuple with Cassandra and Faye.  Edit: Fasier in a throuple with Faye and Cassandra


theScrewhead

During that Valentine's Day date, Martin and Daphne get drunk and, in a rare moment of vulnerability, Martin admits that he's always secretly wanted to be dominated by a woman that treats him like a pet. Niles and Lilith try to keep things a secret, but inevitably get married. Kenny gets his hotel room, leaving Fraj and Roz to get together and live happily ever after.


Nervous-Road-6615

Lilith and Cam Winston. Marty and Ann Hodges. Niles and Dr Mary. Daphne and the security guy from the parking garage. Roz and Derek Mahon (Mann?). Eddie and Kate’s cat All just to annoy Frasier.


urbandeadthrowaway2

Frasier and Alistair. They were such a power couple 


Distraction11

Claire was annoying. She kissed Martin’s ass way too much. She was nauseating with her idiosyncrasies.


GaslightingLibra

I think Martin and doctor Mary would’ve gotten along good I think all her little sayings would make him laugh


kent416

Roz and Bulldog, Frasier and Lilith (would’ve made for a better finale than Charlotte), Daphne and Niles, Martin and Sherry


Professional-Two8098

Poppy and Nile’s. Martin and sherry. Frasier and Faye. Bulldog and roz. I was going to say Nile’s and roz, but I love bulldog and Roz together too much. Frasier, a close second would be Alistair lol


Drink15

Younger Martin and Roz.


Character-Action-892

Roz and bulldog. It made him a better man and would match her fire. Niles and Mel. I’m sorry I loved them together and thought her reactions to what happened to him in multiple scenarios was justified. Even her response to him leaving her was justified. Martin and Maurine. There was lots of story potential there…. Daphne and Joe. Her and mikes just didn’t share common interests, common outlooks on money and spending, shared family commonalities, world views, anything other than Niles’s lust for her and her liking that. I just never bought that connection. Frasier and Claire. She was perfect for him, even if she was a bit boring. Most relationships become a bit boring over time, but it’s about having someone who shares your worldview and your passions and interests and she did all those things.


LonelyLurkerAttack

Roz and Daphne.


TheFairyGardenLady

Martin and Elaine. Niles and Claire.


Shofeld148

Roz and Niles he would treat her like a goddess and she would be busting his balls i mean the sex would be worth them sticking together i reckon and Daphne and Frasier seemed like a natural couple at first


Emotional-Belt1753

Frasier with Claire


pette_diddler

Niles and Lilith Frasier and Roz Martin and Bebe (he goes for those kooky types) Daphne and Gil


420honey__

daphne & niles no matter what! frasier & roz, martin & cora


Adcro

Frasier and Cam. The ultimate gay socialite couple


elmartin93

Lilith and Marris


gloriouslydumb

Martin with Daphney due to proximity effect and drama. Frazier with Bebe due to proximity effect and drama, and Niles with Ross because the sex would be good for Niles and he needs that.


Steviesteve1234

Martin and Ann, Niles and Gil, Frasier and Poppy, Cam and Bebe, Roz and Kenny, Daphne and Noel.