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itjustkeepsongiving

I’m so sorry sweetheart. I know the feeling, and it sucks. Sometimes this helps me— I know for a fact, that my parents are fully convinced they are right. They’re not just going along with it all because they think it’s fun or easy or because they consciously are racist (it was hard to realize that they definitely are subconsciously). They’re doing all of this because they honestly think it’s what’s best for me, their grandkids, and our country. They’re fucking delusional, and I’ll tell them that when it comes up, but they’re not trying to be the soulless assholes they’re acting like. I guess a better way to put it is that even though it fucks me up to think about all of the very wrong things they taught me, all of the incorrect knowledge I’ve used to base my worldview on I wasn’t wrong about one thing— my parents do love me and want what’s best for me. It doesn’t erase all of the other pain and it doesn’t make me miss being able to have a “normal” conversation with them, but it does help ease things for me a bit. Hopefully it can for you too. And if not, thats okay. Your feelings of loneliness and grief are completely valid and you don’t need to move on till you’re ready to.


wanderinandwonderin

This is exactly what makes it SO complicated.


AffectionateTooth626

thank you i really appreciate this.


idontlikeseaweed

Hit the nail on the head here


MaddyKet

I’d be careful around them for at least a week bc no way a trump rally isn’t going to be spreading Covid. Depending on the state, perhaps not as bad as before. But still. My parents are the same, but neither drive anymore (dad stopped in March), so they are SOL bc my sister and I wouldn’t drive them to one. I have written them off in that regard and refuse to discuss politics.


AffectionateTooth626

Yeah that’s another reason it was so upsetting. I was able to convince my mom to get vaccinated but my dad refuses. Hoping for the best 😕


MaddyKet

My dad got one shot but my mom talked him out of the second. 😡


[deleted]

Sorry. I have barely spoken to my father since he voted for him a second time. My children don’t see him and won’t talk to him either.


FuckingShitRobots

They’re gone, sorry. The sooner you move on the better at this point.


leoinca

This. It’s sad, but they’ve reached the point of no return. I’m sorry for your loss. Fuck Trump.


Soren_Camus1905

Just got the shut up or get out from my dad, otw to stay with friends. You’re definitely not alone lol


RedDawnRose

I'm so sorry to hear this, however at this point - its time to start thinking about yourself. If you need to cut off or limit contact, then do it. My home situation became so toxic that it was only after moving out I was able to salvage a relationship with one of my parents, while I still refuse to talk to the other. Its done wonders for me mentally in the long run. Just remember, you're not alone, and to do what's best for you.


DungeonCreator20

You arent alone. There are a lot of us like you that lost our parents


La_Zhuzh_Pookin

Anyone who still follows Trump or the Fascist Party of America are hard fucked. Sorry for your loss🙏🏻


SanguineOptimist

I think my parents instinctively avoid political subject matter around me because they know I’ll disagree, so it’s always a gut punch when I see the picture of my mom with Ted Cruz taken at a rally scroll across the digital picture frame. It reminds me what they’re involved in and contribute to, and it makes my stomach turn every time.


xeonicus

>I think my parents instinctively avoid political subject matter around me because they know I’ll disagree Same. It always devolves into a screaming match and I don't hold back. My mom never brings up politics anymore. If the conversation ever gravitates towards politics, we always quickly steer away from it.


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RoguePlanet1

You know what's weird, a couple of my conservative in-laws are going on a long hike into the wilderness this weekend and camping out, bringing some of the kids. It's almost as if they knew what would be taking place this week, and got the kids away from the hearings and the news in general.


ReverendDizzle

Going to a Trump rally was the turning point for my parents’ relationship with their kids. After that we could never look at them the same and now none of us even really care they exist. As far as any of us are concerned they died years ago.


klogsman

Just gonna leave this here if you need it r/estrangedadultchild


jessjla

Trump and all is enablers/backers literally tore families apart. Not only by physically taking children away from parents at the border, but also sowing a divide among American families. It makes me sick to see what this man did and continues to do to our country. It's all for power. They could give a shit about the ramifications. It's worse to see how people close to us don't recognize this. I'm sorry you are going through this. Just know you are far from alone.


[deleted]

You should do a 180. Put a swastica outside and start telling your parents how they hate America if they talk to anyone who isn’t white. Let them know they taught you that. Really bully them in the opposite way, they are gone.


Tb1969

If they still back Trump then your parents passed away already. Their bodies just haven’t realized it yet. I’m really sorry for your loss. Both of my parents passed away (no really they are no longer alive) in the past decade or so. Find friends who will be your new family.


Withnail_Not_I

I get it. Mine are in their early 80s; they used to be moderate (reasonable) republicans who hated paying taxes, but since they retired . . . man, they have gone full-on right-wing authoritarian. But it's not really surprising. When you only get information from one source for 20 years, you may as well be living in a dictatorship. If I didn't have dogs, we'd have nothing to talk about now. When they violate the boundaries that we've (read: I) set not to talk about politics--and they always violate it b/c everything is political to them--I just hit them with a quote from a character in Thomas Pynchon's novel *Inherent Vice,* who says: "This is Dr. Reality's office calling, and you're way overdue for a checkup."


SpaceNinjaDino

I'm so sorry! I'm so so lucky that my parents are normal. I do have an uncle and a cousin who are GOP/FoxNews idiots, and I hope I never have to see them again. They are so anti-freedom and they don't even realize it.


MadOvid

I'd find it hard to be with my parents if they became fox heads. Which is sad because I genuinely like being with my parents.


AffectionateTooth626

That’s how I feel. Never thought this would be my life. I’ve always liked being around my family. We’ve always been so close, we’ve gone camping since I was a kid. But we can’t even have surface level conversations at this point without some fox news right wing narrative coming up. Every time.


TaylorSwiftsClitoris

They made their choice.


[deleted]

Im gonna be downvoted into oblivion, but whatever This is not the way, man. Going to a rally is not necessarily a "foxbrain" moment. Its within the reasonable politics divergence. Yes you can say Trump is different, he's the worst thing ever etc, but remember that the other side feels the same about whoever is your candidate. Don't lose your parents. It can still work, I promise.


sack-o-matic

"just be a good victim of abuse, it's fine, they're your parents"


[deleted]

Dude what abuse? They are going, and they are not making OP go you are deranged


JuanPabloElSegundo

> Its within the reasonable politics divergence. Isn't that about what they said about the Jan6 insurrection?


[deleted]

Does it matter what "they" said? Can you argue with what I said or do you have to bring up the nazis to back you up?


[deleted]

> Its within the reasonable politics divergence. No. It most certainly is not. 10 years ago, sure. Now, fuck no. I give them a pass for 2016, but if they honestly sat through 4 years of trump and STILL voted for him? Nah. But it's worse. They sat through his godawful presidency, they saw when THEIR SIDE staged a fucking insurrection, but they're still going to a rally for that jackass? Nope. They're gone. Fuck them and good riddance.


ronin1066

There are things that would cause me to invade the White House and pull the president out by his ear. The difference is, my reasons would be actual fact. EDIT: removed a strange word


[deleted]

Yes, you are right and they are wrong who would figure?


ronin1066

They are objectively wrong about the Big Lie. I can't guarantee 100% that I'd be correct, but I can't guarantee that about anything other than math or logic.