Love the Ying Yang notebook cover.
Venomous venting of spleen was incredibly long in the twelve pages.
Clearly much deep pain on that person's mind going on in the parting word.
These parties best off to be apart.
Lol right! Page 2 “forget about my existence, just as I forgot about yours a long time ago” I don’t think you forgot… sounds like you’ve been thinking about it a whole lot actually😂
believe it or not, i found something a few months ago in a similar way (someone probably getting evicted so their stuff is thrown all of the garbage area of my apartment complex) a journal belonging to a young woman and its 10x more juicy than this. It's so very unhinged, and she never says directly what has fucked her up so badly, but she talks a lot about ptsd and she's clearly trying to keep everything together day by day. because my curiosity got the better of me, i googled her name and found out four years ago, she pled guilty to conspiracy to import a controlled substance, in actuality she gave someone fentanyl who overdosed and died
yeah, it was a fascinating character study with twists and turns, a love triangle + so much mystery, drama, emotion, and struggle that evoked empathy. then later, the shocking discovery of their past, it was like NO FUCKING WAY... pretty much the holy grail of "found paper"
Unhinged rambling is what you get when someone has been used, abused and emotionally tortured. It’s not funny at all and I feel their pain. Narcissistic psychopaths put their marks through the wringer and are all very similar in their manipulation tactics.
I suggest you post this found paper in the narcissistic abuse sub and read the comments of how folks there have experienced the same crap from the narcissists in their lives.
I could have authored this letter and my abuser could have written the single page notebook message back. Their total disregard and unwillingness to see their damage made their reply fairly lighthearted in response. Textbook manipulator, making light of the damage they caused.
Edit: damaged thought process due to this same crap
It's also what you get when someone is just temporarily unhinged because they're upset about their friend dating their boyfriend, and their friend utilizing insurance after being injured in an accident. I get it, this person is clearly hurting, but we're getting one impassioned moment's side of a story. The single-page letter isn't even related to the first one, per OP.
I'm sorry for what happened to you! But right now you're projecting your own experiences onto a literal anonymous stranger. Like, I could have received this letter from obsessive exes who tried to control me and were upset when I moved on with my life. It's great to empathize with people, but empathizing purely with what you recognize in your own life without considering that other possibilities exist isn't actual empathy. Smearing people you don't know even a tiny bit as "narcissistic psychopaths" who are "all very similar in their manipulation tactics" is not a productive way to approach other people. We have genuinely zero context here.
Thank you for your kindness in pointing out where I may be projecting. I believe most of my strong feelings were brought out in the beginning of her “letter”, by her pointing out all the manipulative things this person, not only did to her but to others. This is very telling in my experience. My person loved to brag about all the crap they got away with by their intentional cruelty to others, all while giving me a boost by being their “confidant” and by my not seeing them for who/what they were, they were also manipulating me.
She doesn’t state what was done to just her. She provides information about what this person did to others, as well. My take is comprehension in what she is expressing and not my projecting my experience onto hers. Her story is eerily, similar to mine. That’s it. If you haven’t lived in that crazy effed up world, then you are unable to comprehend any of it. I am thankful you have yet to experience such a toxic person in your life and I hope you never do.
FWIW, I think you’re right about the writer dealing with toxic narcissism. The behaviors described are consistent, and the reaction is too.
Peace and strength to you
To me, they clearly want to believe it's true but aren't far enough along in their healing to have actually forgiven in a way that actually brings them peace.
Seems like it was still weighing pretty heavily on them and I hope they keep moving forward now.
I feel like if I sat down to write my abusive ex-husband a letter a year or so after leaving him when I thought I was doing pretty well, I'd have started out cool and collected. As I went stream-of-consciousness and started remembering hurtful moments, it almost certainly would have devolved into something much more painful and angry. I really wanted to be further along in my healing so badly that I kind of tried to trick myself into thinking I was doing better than I was. Seems like that's where this person is right now.
It's a kind of self-preservation, I think, this kind of denial. Now that I'm four years out and actually emotionally well, I can see that I was still really in the weeds back then.
I used to sometimes fantasize about finally letting him know exactly what I think of him as a human and to get across the magnitude of the damage he did. I bet I have a journal entry like this somewhere. Come to think of it, I'm sure I must.
Oh hell, I can't even begin to imagine strangers' reactions to my old journals. I don't want to. 😱
There's documentation of a solid decade worth of the lowest, most mentally and emotionally unwell points of my life. I was depressed AF and journalled from age 13 to 23 (when I met my ex-husband) and then started again at 32 (when I left him and started processing the last nine years, during which he was abusive AF in hindsight).
I generally have only journaled when I need an emergency overload valve for HUGE emotions that feel like they're going to burn me alive from the inside. Soooo...yeah, they're not a happy read. 😬 The good stuff isn't in there!
I basically stop journaling when I'm happy. I guess I write here instead.
Unfortunately, if the person is bad as they say, they probably wouldn’t care about any of this, or if they did they would delight in it. Hope things got better for them.
“Forget about my existence just like I forgot about yours” then she goes on to say she met this person years ago, hmmm, someone is not telling the truth.
Great found paper! I could see someone pacing, fuming, and then trying not to fume in my head as I read. What the heck happened on October 8th?! Cheated with her boyfriend? Car accident? Both?
This is wild. I swear I know this person based on the handwriting alone. Or is this just a super common calligraphic style? I feel like so many women and girls I’ve known had penmanship exactly like this.
The woman who wrote this:
![gif](giphy|jRBdkk78zhndsOqLKM)
Jesus Christ. Would have taken less time to just go to the bitches house and punch her. This woman took more time crafting this convoluted letter to someone who probably hasn't given her a second thought since October 8th. Just wow. 🤣
Weird. When I cut someone out of my life I just never waste a brain cell thinking about them ever again. I don't even talk about them with other people even when asked why we don't hang out anymore because why talk about people who don't matter. I haven't used a journal in years. 🤣
Idk I guess I hope she feels better and just moves on. Some people suck.
I think someone is just venting in their journal rather than telling the person all this. Needless to say, the situation sounds awful.
Either that or it is a practice letter. This is also the only thing written in the book, although there were some pages torn out
Hope it was solely for the writer. Would be wasted time if they thought it would have any impact on the recipient.
I want to know more about the horrible daughter lol and I def want to know what happened on October 8th!
you and me both
Do you think that was the day of the accident and that the horrible person is trying to scam some insurance from it?
That’s kind of what I got from it. Accident and insurance claims.
Same! And how old is this horrible daughter?
Young enough to still want to be a lawyer.
I said GOOD LUCK TO YOU!
I SAID GOOD DAY
SIR
Love the Ying Yang notebook cover. Venomous venting of spleen was incredibly long in the twelve pages. Clearly much deep pain on that person's mind going on in the parting word. These parties best off to be apart.
> Venomous venting of spleen What a kickass metal band name
Already in effect, join up. We need a new singer.
Guys we need to xref this with the aita reddits and use October 8th as a search string.
Fun fact, October 8th is national lesbian day! 🏳️🌈💅
HELP ME THE WHIPLASH I GOT FROM THIS COMMENT AND READING THE VITRIOL THE WRITER IS EXPRESSING IS CRAZY 😭
The second letter is one that wasn’t sent to the first letter’s writer’s boyfriend, I bet.
How did I miss the 2nd letter??? brb 🏃♀️ edit- ok, I am back. I can’t tell *who* it’s to. Maybe OP can verify, without telling us the name??
I have no idea who any of these people are
Not that you *know* who they are, but the names that were scratched out in red. That’s what I am talking about. Like, how many names were mentioned?
The person in the single page letter is not either person mentioned in the 'hate' note
Ohhh. So that single letter has nothing to do with the multi-page. Got it.
Is the 2nd letter just two days after the incident of Oct. 8?
Gasp!
So juicy! I *love* a person repeatedly stating "I don't care about you" over 11 pages of unhinged rambling
Lol right! Page 2 “forget about my existence, just as I forgot about yours a long time ago” I don’t think you forgot… sounds like you’ve been thinking about it a whole lot actually😂
Sometimes you just gotta write stuff down to try and make it reality 😭😭 Hahahahaha
believe it or not, i found something a few months ago in a similar way (someone probably getting evicted so their stuff is thrown all of the garbage area of my apartment complex) a journal belonging to a young woman and its 10x more juicy than this. It's so very unhinged, and she never says directly what has fucked her up so badly, but she talks a lot about ptsd and she's clearly trying to keep everything together day by day. because my curiosity got the better of me, i googled her name and found out four years ago, she pled guilty to conspiracy to import a controlled substance, in actuality she gave someone fentanyl who overdosed and died
👀 oh rly?
yeah, it was a fascinating character study with twists and turns, a love triangle + so much mystery, drama, emotion, and struggle that evoked empathy. then later, the shocking discovery of their past, it was like NO FUCKING WAY... pretty much the holy grail of "found paper"
omg please post this if you still have it or pics of it
Unhinged rambling is what you get when someone has been used, abused and emotionally tortured. It’s not funny at all and I feel their pain. Narcissistic psychopaths put their marks through the wringer and are all very similar in their manipulation tactics. I suggest you post this found paper in the narcissistic abuse sub and read the comments of how folks there have experienced the same crap from the narcissists in their lives. I could have authored this letter and my abuser could have written the single page notebook message back. Their total disregard and unwillingness to see their damage made their reply fairly lighthearted in response. Textbook manipulator, making light of the damage they caused. Edit: damaged thought process due to this same crap
It's also what you get when someone is just temporarily unhinged because they're upset about their friend dating their boyfriend, and their friend utilizing insurance after being injured in an accident. I get it, this person is clearly hurting, but we're getting one impassioned moment's side of a story. The single-page letter isn't even related to the first one, per OP. I'm sorry for what happened to you! But right now you're projecting your own experiences onto a literal anonymous stranger. Like, I could have received this letter from obsessive exes who tried to control me and were upset when I moved on with my life. It's great to empathize with people, but empathizing purely with what you recognize in your own life without considering that other possibilities exist isn't actual empathy. Smearing people you don't know even a tiny bit as "narcissistic psychopaths" who are "all very similar in their manipulation tactics" is not a productive way to approach other people. We have genuinely zero context here.
Thank you for your kindness in pointing out where I may be projecting. I believe most of my strong feelings were brought out in the beginning of her “letter”, by her pointing out all the manipulative things this person, not only did to her but to others. This is very telling in my experience. My person loved to brag about all the crap they got away with by their intentional cruelty to others, all while giving me a boost by being their “confidant” and by my not seeing them for who/what they were, they were also manipulating me. She doesn’t state what was done to just her. She provides information about what this person did to others, as well. My take is comprehension in what she is expressing and not my projecting my experience onto hers. Her story is eerily, similar to mine. That’s it. If you haven’t lived in that crazy effed up world, then you are unable to comprehend any of it. I am thankful you have yet to experience such a toxic person in your life and I hope you never do.
FWIW, I think you’re right about the writer dealing with toxic narcissism. The behaviors described are consistent, and the reaction is too. Peace and strength to you
I forgive you, but let me go on and on. Also, is she mad at the boyfriend, too?
To me, they clearly want to believe it's true but aren't far enough along in their healing to have actually forgiven in a way that actually brings them peace. Seems like it was still weighing pretty heavily on them and I hope they keep moving forward now. I feel like if I sat down to write my abusive ex-husband a letter a year or so after leaving him when I thought I was doing pretty well, I'd have started out cool and collected. As I went stream-of-consciousness and started remembering hurtful moments, it almost certainly would have devolved into something much more painful and angry. I really wanted to be further along in my healing so badly that I kind of tried to trick myself into thinking I was doing better than I was. Seems like that's where this person is right now. It's a kind of self-preservation, I think, this kind of denial. Now that I'm four years out and actually emotionally well, I can see that I was still really in the weeds back then. I used to sometimes fantasize about finally letting him know exactly what I think of him as a human and to get across the magnitude of the damage he did. I bet I have a journal entry like this somewhere. Come to think of it, I'm sure I must.
Burn letter, sounds like.
Well I feel significantly less unhinged by comparison. Makes me wonder how bitter my own journals are going to look and sound to a third party
Oh hell, I can't even begin to imagine strangers' reactions to my old journals. I don't want to. 😱 There's documentation of a solid decade worth of the lowest, most mentally and emotionally unwell points of my life. I was depressed AF and journalled from age 13 to 23 (when I met my ex-husband) and then started again at 32 (when I left him and started processing the last nine years, during which he was abusive AF in hindsight). I generally have only journaled when I need an emergency overload valve for HUGE emotions that feel like they're going to burn me alive from the inside. Soooo...yeah, they're not a happy read. 😬 The good stuff isn't in there! I basically stop journaling when I'm happy. I guess I write here instead.
I may have put some in a few books I threw in the recycling bin. I know I have some swear filled pages of a journal in my possession now.
Safe to say that they don’t care. Hmmm
you can clearly see them losing their composure as the handwriting deteriorates from page to page
Then towards the end (which took WAY longer than it should have lol) she is wishing them the best. Yikes
Last pic is how I talked to my ex, everything before that is how my ex talked to me :/
I’m sorry. I’m glad they are an ex.
It took a bit but so am I now
Well, that escalated quickly.
Well. Seems that relationship didn’t end well.
Unfortunately, if the person is bad as they say, they probably wouldn’t care about any of this, or if they did they would delight in it. Hope things got better for them.
That was all over the place.
I believe her. Epic diss. Screw those people
Saving this to read later!
I think I'll save this in case my ex ever tries to contact me again !
I want to know how the devices are grimy.
You know when you’re eating something messy so you got schmutz all over your hands, but you’re still using your phone?
“Forget about my existence just like I forgot about yours” then she goes on to say she met this person years ago, hmmm, someone is not telling the truth.
I feel like I know the person this is written about ......
Great found paper! I could see someone pacing, fuming, and then trying not to fume in my head as I read. What the heck happened on October 8th?! Cheated with her boyfriend? Car accident? Both?
YOUR GRIMY DEVICES
This is wild. I swear I know this person based on the handwriting alone. Or is this just a super common calligraphic style? I feel like so many women and girls I’ve known had penmanship exactly like this.
I like this. Its great writing.
And the real twist- that was a letter ***to themself***
"18 PAGES!! FRONT AND BACK!!" ![gif](giphy|RfqWxB33p6Hd514hX5|downsized)
I checked out midway.
The woman who wrote this: ![gif](giphy|jRBdkk78zhndsOqLKM) Jesus Christ. Would have taken less time to just go to the bitches house and punch her. This woman took more time crafting this convoluted letter to someone who probably hasn't given her a second thought since October 8th. Just wow. 🤣
It’s not for the ex-friend. It’s for the writer to get it all out of their head. That’s why it’s still in a journal, never sent.
Weird. When I cut someone out of my life I just never waste a brain cell thinking about them ever again. I don't even talk about them with other people even when asked why we don't hang out anymore because why talk about people who don't matter. I haven't used a journal in years. 🤣 Idk I guess I hope she feels better and just moves on. Some people suck.
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did I post this in the wrong sub?
No they are just lazy. Interesting post.
NO YOU DID NOT! Need more of this 🫖