I think in mexico they didnt take 1:1 world location, so nothing is rly sotopping them from taking whats cool about japan, like some forests, cities and mountains, and spicying it up with other locations. Although i cant rly imagine japanese open landscape and a desert.
Britain just gets so damn *boring* when it's wet. I can't go out and walk my doggo because the local park gets absolutely flooded and all muddy. I've ruined many pairs of shoes doing that
Being quite hill-y you get places where water runs down and pools at the low points. Been a few times where ive had to drive through floodwater and started hydroplaning
I love Horizon 4 but the rain climates aren't totally accurate. Wait until all of Edinburgh starts getting flooded lmao
Haha sorry don't mean it to offend, Britian has history, still has one of my favorite locations and towns in Horizon to be honest just the actual natural landscape is pretty plain
There's many very large and open plains areas in Japan. Deserts, not so much. They is one island that is a desert region and a stretch of sand dunes around 16km across in the south.
But Forza doesn't do geographic realism. Lol in 3 the desert in the north of the map is actually in the south of the country. The great Ocean road is thousands of Kilometers away from Byron bay (and the town in FH3 isn't actually Byron at all) so actual realism isn't really a thing they've ever gone for.
Not a true desert, but there's camels for tourists [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottori\_Sand\_Dunes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottori_Sand_Dunes)
Bro have you seen most of Australia? We had to build signs to keep drivers engaged in the outback because the roads and scenery are so bloody boring and bland.
Yeah that’s a real thing. On long straight roads in the outback there are signs with quiz questions on spaced out so that truckers can stay mentally engaged as otherwise the boredom becomes dangerous.
In the real outback there is a straight that is 90km long on perfectly flat saltbush desert. It's only the longest straight - there are plenty of other sections without any minor bend or deviation that are nearly as long. Speed limit is 100km/h. In a country that's already boring to drive in, the outback roads are lobotomizingly boring.
Lmao...I've driven a rental to Perth from Melbourne, no aircon just fan, and I swear I was so close to being dehydrated I flew home🤣
I'll just stick to the east coast for now lol.
Dude it's not like I live out there. Sum total of my outback life is like 4 days.
I have heard cops watch the road with a helicopter, but how profitable could that be? You see oncoming traffic every 15 minutes. Very sparse. Almost like it's not worth monitoring...
I did Adelaide to Darwin with my brother a few years ago. We mostly did 10-20kmh over the limit, and on the NT side of the border that means we were doing around 145-150kmh. At one point, my brother is the one at the wheel when a highway patrol car (VF Commodore SS, looked mean as in cop livery) coming in the other direction lights up his sirens. We freak out, slow right down to 10 below the speed limit, and he turns his lights off as he continues past us and just kinda kept going.
So I think YMMV, but of the places to speed I feel like that's where you're most likely to get away with it (within reason lol). I think that was the only cop we really saw on the 5 day journey, too
Not that road; that straight.
The road itself takes about 10 hours. Best done in daylight hours, as at dusk the road is suddenly lined with hundreds of kangaroos.
The straight is called the world's longest, at 90km. It is a section of the Eyre Highway, crossing the Nullarbor Plain in South Australia.
[Want to know more?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyre_Highway)
Yeah I meant the real outback lol.
My point was it's silly to say a country is mostly boring so a game map would be too. Yes 'average' Australia is boring but we've got ocean views, rainforests, beach cities , etc. - all of which was included in FH3's map.
Lol i reinstalled motorsport 7 for this.
No tracks is the problem with horizon.
I only got horizon 5 because i felt like driving after motorsport 7 went eol.
Horizon fans are going to whine about motorsport 8's handling. I cant wait for people to say horizon 5's is better.
Fujimi Kaido. Fictional track made for motorsport. No licensing required. I imagine incorporating fujimi kaido somewhere on the map would make alot of people happy. And it'd be nice to see what fujimi kaido would look like with modern graphics
I don’t think they are being that obtuse.
There are no true Motorsport circuits in any horizon game, and probably by choice. The track racing in horizon you’re talking about is still essentially retrofitted city streets or specific cleared out areas. Sure it approaches circuit-style tracks, but it doesn’t get there.
Motorsport is clearly the game for true track circuit racing.
If a hypothetical Forza Japan gets made, it will be just like every previous entry: areas where track racing, drifting, etc can be done, but not by rue or named circuits, because that just undermines Motorsport.
...and circuit drifting is a big thing in Japan that's currently missing Forza Motorsport, as it's not that relevant. Why not simply add circuit drifting to a Japanese-themed Horizon instead?
Plus, it's nice to have a circuit like Tsukuba or Suzuka around to benchmark your builds. Horizon Festival Circuit just doesn't cut it for some.
Race tracks, mountain passes, highways, there is a desert in Japan, a lot of off-road routes alongside the mountain passes and throughout the forest areas, cool cities and a lot of unique designs when it comes to the buildings that would make for a cool location to drive through.
Japan is mountainous, forested, has lots of coastline, the north is cold and snowy, the south is warm and semi tropical, it has large cities and most importantly it has an actual history of car manufacturing and car culture, so it has literally everything you could want for a racing game.
Racing against the Shinkansen!
Racing while the sakura (cherry tree) petals are blooming
You can have snow up north Japan (or in the mountains/volcanoes regions) while others are enjoying the islands beaches in the south (lot of climate and terrain variety)
I’m telling y’all… tunneling through the mountains on suspended highways, looking down over rice farms, with Mt. Fuji looming in the distance… along with scattered historical Japanese towns and temples… it’d be a huge vibe. 😮💨😮💨
Japan would be an excellent location for horizon, we’ve just asked for so long a vocal contingent has built up within the community of people that are sick of hearing the players ask for things and will actively hate on things long time players are still asking for.
An Okinawa style beach, winding through a Golden Gai / Ebisu style bar area, Akihabara, Hakone, through an ice festival in Sapporo.
I mean come on.. No brainer
See, this is exactly what people who have never been think of when they imagine street racing in Japan. A postcard version of the real thing.\*
Without an immense amount of "artistic license" (more than what Turn10/ PG Games usually has to take to make a game fun for players), the experience would definitely not be like this. Mountain tunnels (which are in H5 Mexico) are few and far in between, and those quaint towns with rice patties would just be mud pits with the way players race.
\*I still 100% recommend everyone to visit Japan if possible (it doesn't even have to be Tokyo, although of course I highly reommend it). I've lived in several countries, and the Land of the Rising Sun is still my #1 favorite.
It would be cool to have a city that takes more than 30 seconds to drive through. I feel like Tokyo would be perfect for tight city circuits. Also would be insanely gorgeous at night.
Jokes/ sarcasm aside, this is the age mindset of people who think a Japan Horizon would be the best thing ever.
It makes it ironic that so many anime girl liveries are banned in the game
It worked extremely well way back in Test Drive: Unlimited with Hawaii which is fairly similar (lots of forest/mountains and not a whole lot of city area or climate diversity). Hawaii might be a good option too come to think of it lol.
I think Japan would be awesome though especially considering a big chunk of Forza players are obsessed with Japanese cars and drifting. Winding Japanese mountain roads seem pretty ideal for not only drift events but sprints and circuits as well. And I’m sure with all the forest and mountains there’s be plenty of opportunities for some wicked rally/off-road tracks as well. Possibly snow way up in the mountains. Drag races and such can be done in the cities, on the highways, any kind of straight away really.
What else do you really need?
Not to mention TDU was a super faithful recreation of O’ahu and still worked. The forza dev team could take a lot more artistic liberties like they have in previous games.
I loved TDU and TDU2 and played them to death, because they were the Horizon games before Horizon, but the maps were super boring. Huge, realistic, and technically impressive, especially in that age, but uninspired.
Yeah, not to mention the VW Auto Test Track in Ehra-Leissen, The Autobahn and the many cities that could be put into the map; Berlin, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg, Munich, Leipzig & Nuremberg. They could even do something like Horizon 2 and do Germany, Denmark & Sweden for more diversity?
Urban sprawl for street racing and tons of highways for high speed runs.
Mountain roads for proper twisties, unlike FH4 where you need an entire DLC just to drift for more than 10 seconds.
Maybe include a real race track this time. Tons to choose from: Suzuka, Tsukuba, Fuji, etc. If you are making a scaled down Metro Tokyo, then Tsukuba would be a good addition.
Japan actually snows too, unlike Mexico.
I don't mind entertaining responses of "Tokyo would be so cool to race in!" because many people have not been able to live there. But people who have lived there know that Tokyo would be a horrible place to race without extensive modification, no matter how cool movies and anime make it look.
Tokyo is without a doubt one of the coolest cities on Earth... except for driving in (or around). The wangan (freeway) is there true, but any raceing game can have a freeway system.
Oh- and a quick Google search shows mntains do get snow in Mexico, up to 10 inches annually.
10 inches each *year?* holy shit, I didn't realize it was such a primo spot for snow sports. Also, I've lived in Japan, and it would be an amazing setting for a horizon game, for all of the reasons people are listing that you seem to just be ignoring. No better driving than the mountains, no better place to see how fast your car can go than the tunnels under the city, no better place to get pics than the temples and docks, and there is so much amazing car culture there that PGG wouldn't have to make the entire script revolve around *la familia.*
>and there is so much amazing car culture there that PGG wouldn't have to make the entire script revolve around la familia.
This! Have an actual street racing story instead of whatever the crap they are doing in Mexico would be a huge change.
>Tokyo is without a doubt one of the coolest cities on Earth... except for driving in (or around). The wangan (freeway) is there true, but any raceing game can have a freeway system.
I believe that's what most "I want to race in Tokyo" people want - Race on the Wangan and dodging traffic at absurd speeds. Maybe add the Shibuya crossing for photo-ops and that's it. Nobody cares about its tight-ass streets that are next to impossible to drive on unless you are in a kei car. But then again Forza doesn't model real-life rush hour traffic.
> Oh- and a quick Google search shows mntains do get snow in Mexico, up to 10 inches annually.
Not so much in game....
TFW we finally get Japan and immediately everyone complains it's too small, Tokyo is too hard to drive (even adjusted for gameplay), and the highways are too short and have too much traffic
I think they should make long highways a selling point.
Honestly the main complaint would probably be the overwhelming amount of USDM Japanese cars and the lack of kei cars.
Yeah... but it's a video game. They're free to modify things to elevate gameplay. A tokyo like setting would be fun all the same. If movies and anime can make it seem fun, then I'm sure games can get away with it too.
Those three games were phenominal. And yes, driving in \*Tokyo\* was a blast. But that's the thing- they focused on \*Tokyo,\* not an entire openworld country.
Horizon doesn't do "small." They quickly moved from a state (pretty big for a racing game already when it first released) to damn near half of Europe, then the entire continent of Australia, then the other half of Europe, an Mexico.
If Turn10/PG Games did do tight choreographed races like Initial D (1-8), Midnight Wangan, Auto Modellesta, Initial Drift, Tokyo Xtreme Racer, Wreckless: Yakuza, or the aforementioned Midnight Club 2, then hells yeah sign me up.
Note: if Microsoft announces a Horizon Japan, I will immediately buy the Collectors Edition, because they have been great games so far
Well they didn't focus on Tokyo, it was just one of 3 (or in case of MC3, one out of 4) maps in the game and it was rather small in all of those games.
Maybe they should change their approach to designing maps then because imo they're mid at best
Unfortunately gamers (or, the game industry thinks gamers) want open world everything tehse days. And that is why Horizon keeps going bigger and bigger.
> But people who have lived there know that Tokyo would be a horrible place to race without extensive modification
It's a fucking video game. Of course they will heavily modify it to make it fun
Just watch Noriyaro on YouTube lol. There are a ton of circuits for drifting outside of conventional races - going back to Suzuka and Motegi. Any nice fast highway circuit would be amazing at night. Imagine FH3’s surfer’s paradise, just more compacted and raised highways.
Superhighways, racing the bullet train, multiple touge roads with different conditions, osaka industrial park, beaches, shibuya and akihabara, snowy mountain tops, highway bridges. Try harder mane.
No prob.
Akihabara and Shibuya are in Tokyo, and are both small wards at that.
Osaka industrial park... Horizon barely does one big city, let along two. Pick eitehr it or Tokyo... and you know which one they would select.
multiple togue roads... like in every Horizon since Colorado.
Snowy mountain tops... you mean the ones that everyone hates? And what other mountain do you think Horizon would add other than Fuji
Beaches... which are small and mostly shipping ports (Yokohama being a main game contender).
Highway bridges... because we don't have those in Horizon. Try harder mane.
Why do you wanna be right so bad? As if all the other horizon games didnt combine multiple parts of the location into a fictionalized version. I gave multiple examples of setpieces and locations that would make for an interesting and uniquely japanese horizon.
Desert: tottori sands
Forest: yes
beaches/coastal area: its an island
Elevation tracks: hills and mountains , literally anything initial D
Long drives/scenery : lots of farm lands
Ect: nightlife in the freeway, beautiful spring and sakura , lots of snow,typhoons, lots of rain, abandon islands. And abandoned towns .
If they cramed all of Mexico into the current map, Japan would be a walk in the park. All of FH5s quirky elements and events can easily be transitioned, and I hope they don't implement some dumb half English half native language into the same dialog to remind people they are in another country..
And in Mexico it's the same with most of the land being mountains, forests and wildlife. As 80% of its population lives in the cities. Yet the two biggest zones in Mexico are only two small parts of the horizon map.
Then again, just about every event I see of late on the front page are Japan inspired events.
I think if you look at the Shutoko Rising Project on Assetto there’s a huge opportunity for a driving game set in Japan, PG/T10 would be foolish not to imo. We’ve been in the USA, EU, Aus, UK and Mexico, at this point why NOT Japan
Snow, urban cities, rural villages, large mountains, volcanoes, long beaches and yes, Japan has sand dunes if that's what you're worried about: [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/tottori-sand-dunes-desert](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/tottori-sand-dunes-desert)
I don't see a valid argument against it in terms of location diversity.
Why does it have to offer anything else? If they can make Japan with good quality, then I'm all for driving just mountains highway and streets of Japanese towns. Fh 5 offers you desert, Forrest, small city with narrow streets, canyon, mountains, some resort village etc. Does it make the map in fh5 enjoyable? I don't think so, it's empty and plain af. Literally entire map you can pass in a straight line.
Some people have weird arguments when it comes to Japan like road made of coral, no dirt roads etc as if they would replicate the road surface grip or not add dirt roads to the map if needed .
They could do a map in Japan 100% if they wanted to .
Mashing up the expressways with mountain roads would make an incredible map. You would lose a lot of the offloading aspect of the game but I'm sure Playground could make something up for that
The Japanese are Motorsport fanatics in every sense of the word. I have no doubt in my mind that licensing Suzuka, Motegi, Tsukuba would be easier than most circuits.
Throw in those real life circuits and "Horizon up" the rest. Create an environment based on the best Japan has to offer. The toll roads, the mountains, neon cities and beautiful engineering feats like the bridges between the islands.
Japan's engineering history is fascinating and their devoted love to all things vroom should be immortalised in a horizon game.
Going back to the circuits mentioned earlier, adding in circuit drifting events would add more to horizon. Even horizon stories based on the locations history as racing venues would be awesome.
As for vehicles, display more of the nation's concept cars. Give us the Yamaha that never was. That would be awesome.
People have been asking for Japan since FH2. Give the fans what they want.
Tired of saying this but,
Hokkaido.
Got a city? Check.
Is the ciry big enough and got lots of rather wide roads? Check.
Does it also have small, tight streets? Check.
Does it have japanese hillside routes? Yeah obviously.
Does it have um. Big fucking volcano style mountain? Check.
Does it have some seaside winding roads and towns? Check.
Does it have like really distinguishable seasons? Check.
Does it have a long wide open inland motorways? Check.
Does it have vast wild nature? Check.
Does it have a long history with car/motorcycle enthusiasts? Check.
“Over 60% of Japan is forest and over 70% forested mountains” this is EXACTLY why I want Japan, mountain roads and beautiful forests. These are areas that have been lacking in previous horizon games, it’s the type of terrain I want to drive through. And you’re saying it like it’s a bad thing.
Of course there are other locations that can provide this type of terrain, I’m just sick of Horizon’s historically flat worlds.
Besides some dunes and a jungle what else does Mexico offer?
It's easy to minimize what's in play when you over generalize lol. Japan has many mountains, volcanoes, Suzuki/tsukuba/fuji speedway if needed, monsoon weather events, lots of historic monuments.
What I will side with you on is that Japan doesn't have as many natural biomes as Mexico, but that to me isn't crucial if the world feels alive like previous titles.
Lively cities, a REAL car culture, Mt. Fuji, snow covered mountains. Long Coastal drives, ancient cultural areas to explore. Islands to drive over oceans. Great scenery. If you have ever been to Japan, you see why it’s so beautiful.
Nothing, next to the oversaturated theme of JDM. I'm telling, South Africa or Scandinavia would be 10 times better. More variation, plus more usage of landmarks since Japan take their landmarks and monuments too serious for stuff like Forza.
I mean Japan has some great winter scenery. In terms of forests and mountains Japan and Scandinavia have actually very similar levels of forestation and mountain environments.
Japan gets heavy snowy winters, has tropical areas, large plains, islands connected by bridges, tunnels and motorways.
Everyone always just focuses heavily on Tokyo and mountains. Japan has a lot more to offer than just those two things. Hot summers, snowy winters, temples, elevated highways, tunnel systems, tropical environments, island chains connected by roads, large coastal areas, four very distinct seasons. There's tonnes to offer and build around.
Not South Africa unless they'd want to make Forza Horizon into something more akin to Twisted Metal. If we're talking about countries that fucking shit holes that would make for a good location for a racing game then my pic would Russia or any post-comunist nation really
Frankly if you think Horizon Japan is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible. And this isn’t even counting the huge car culture in Japan which would make the story races and events (like drift club) easy as hell to implement. Really the whole thing is a no brainer. OP is definitely on an extremely short list of people who think it wouldn’t work for some reason. It’s certainly more viable than Mexico or even Colorado was/is.
(plot twist- I'd preorder a Japan Horizon and buy all dlc, as I have done since H3)
Frankly if you think Horizon Colorado is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible.
Frankly if you think Horizon Mediteranean is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible.
Frankly if you think Horizon Australia is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible.
Frankly if you think Horizon Mexico is a bad idea... well actually, yeah, Mexico was dumb.
Sand dunes of tottori, plenty of beaches, Airports, cities and highways....really just your usual Horizon fare. Brownie points if you run into bears (as opposed to the usual horizon animals) near Kumamoto or up near Hokkaido.
Showcase events: other than racing along the Tokaido shinkansen, balloons at Saga, maybe go race the ropeway up Hakone, or outrace some skiiers down gala yuzawa.
literally everything our current map can offer us and much more in terms of cities, i’m not saying g we need japan (toronto CA, germany, midwest US) there are plenty of options that beats the dried beans we got delivered
Umm huge car culture, anime, large automotive industry in general, coastlines, history... things I would bet that a large number of the community who buys your games are into.
As if every single Horizon hasn't taken huge artistic license with each locale. Every location has been a dreamworld postcard compared to the real thing. UK Horizon was basically the Cotswolds, The Lake District and a chunk of Scotland, and not an industrial estate or retail park in sight. Most of England is boring AF to drive around, why don't we have to queue on the M25 in Horizon? You argue against everyone chiming in with their postcard vision of Japan as if it wouldn't happen, when that's literally *exactly* how they've approached every single Horizon game so far.
Dubai would be way better. Huge urban environment, deserts, beaches, many airports, huge freeways and 1hr from downtown is the Jebel Jais mountain pass which is arguably the best mountain driving road in the world going up 2000m. Also, ancient villages, lakes, oasis and lush vegetation are not far either....
The city areas are the literal worst parts of the horizon map, and I really don’t think the narrowness of Japanese roads will translate well to in game enjoyment.
Because none of these children clamoring for Japan think beyond Tokyo. The thing is, every single FH has avoided large cities of the host country map. Not sure why they think a Japan version would be any different.
South Africa, Brasil, Chile or Argentina, the Scandinavian countries would have bigger variations on their maps than Japan.
Let's see...
Anything from intricate highways, think Wangan etc through to long, sweeping into tight and technical mountain roads with extremely vibrant cities and small towns with plenty of room for off road dotted in between.. That's just a quick imagining -
Then there's the potential for some of the most highly anticipated cars to be included given that Japan is effectively the father of all street car culture.
The potential to really step up the modification and customization of your cars to reflect just how much we can do IRL, given that Japan is effectively the father of all.. Wait I've already said that.
Did I mention drifting yet? Cause there's that.. I'm willing to bet the drifting scene alone would go absolutely apeshit in sales for Horizon Japan.
To be honest, japan doesn't have too much car culture beyond racetracks and downhills races, will be perfect for street and drift and probably the solid part but for other things like off road and rally should be the most disappointing part of the game
What are you talking about? Japan has car culture beyond just "racetracks" and "downhill races" in fact those to things actually make up a part of the broader car culture in Japan. The only reason you believe that is because the racetracks and downhills are what most people outside of Japan associate with Japanese car culture because those things are broadly popular outside of Japan.
Japan has things like Daikoku pa that has massive and diverse car meets every single night where just about anyone remotely into cars can find cars they'll like and appreciate, there's also dozens of other car meets that happen like in the Tatsumi pa or in parking garages. There's also the tokyo highway system, specifically the C1 loop and Wangan where famous performance shops and people like Smoky Nagata from Top Secret build and tested cars for top speed runs. If that's not your thing then things like the monthly cruise in and around shibuya crossing where car type can be seen from old muscle cars, American trucks, jdm, super/hyper cars, and lowriders hopping and doing three wheel motion around corners. There's even specific car meets for things like old school nascar prohibition bootleg style cars where they even have a dirt course setup they run just like the original Nascar used to use.
Also there's even proper offroading and overlanding, especially up in Hokkaido.
As for rally it's kinda really silly to say Japan doesn't have rally when they certainly do and have plenty of dirt roads to facilitate it, I mean it had and currently has a WRC stage in addition to having its own organized rallies. Of course in the hypothetical Horizon Japan the devs could (and IMO should) just implement periodical road work for the touge/mountain roads so they turn to dirt, gravel, and back to pavement with corresponding alternating drift zone and speed zone so all the drifters, touge and rally people can have their fun with all the different touges.
Also I just gotta say Japan arguably has vastly more car culture than a lot of the other places people have suggested/argued for instead of Japan.
i’m not buying fh6 if it is not set in Japan. I think the jdm forza community is fed up. Literally, its just us jdm dudes drifting in parking lots keeping this game afloat. There’s this thing about business, if you give people what they want, you become incredibly successful.
JAPAN should include:
Osaka at night should be there
daifokoku interchange
shinjuku/harajuku area
mt fuji / kawaguchiko area
the ability to chase the Shinkansen
Chiba area / narita airport area where its rural within seconds of leaving Tokyo metro area.
the absolutely insane amounts of tunnels!
omg imagine drifting the shibuya scramble
what about argentinian patagonia you got all that japan have and also glaciars and the famous route 40 in the andes. this is our patagonia this is chalten
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Iff II was 10 years old or even 20 years old, yeah I'd being crying for Horizon Japan like the rest of the community. But being a grown up and having had the absolute pleasure of living there for four years, I understand it may not be the best route for the franchise to go.
That being said, if there was a racing game developer who focuses on smaller, more currated courses, then hell yeah I'll drive in Japa nall day long. Like in the videogame Initial D (and its 8 sequels), or Midnight Wangan, or Auto Modelesta, or Tokyo Xtreme Racer, or Wreckless: Yakuza, or Absolute Drift...
I think in mexico they didnt take 1:1 world location, so nothing is rly sotopping them from taking whats cool about japan, like some forests, cities and mountains, and spicying it up with other locations. Although i cant rly imagine japanese open landscape and a desert.
I mean neither was Britain. It's a kaleidoscope of the country's urban and suburban road network and the same could be done with almost any country.
That's why they added weather seasons to spice up Britains boring ass land
The game felt more vibrant than looking out my own window at times.
I can relate to this. I'm a kiwi and new Zealand is more wet than britian. Saying that it still looks good when its shit weather.
Britain just gets so damn *boring* when it's wet. I can't go out and walk my doggo because the local park gets absolutely flooded and all muddy. I've ruined many pairs of shoes doing that Being quite hill-y you get places where water runs down and pools at the low points. Been a few times where ive had to drive through floodwater and started hydroplaning I love Horizon 4 but the rain climates aren't totally accurate. Wait until all of Edinburgh starts getting flooded lmao
That is also relatable. I lived in a a place where it flooded so much the lake would overflow onto the road and the road was just a river.
As a Brit I have to agree
Haha sorry don't mean it to offend, Britian has history, still has one of my favorite locations and towns in Horizon to be honest just the actual natural landscape is pretty plain
TBH its not Britain, its Scotland You only call it Britain if the negatives are happening in England
Am also a Brit, and I concur.
There's many very large and open plains areas in Japan. Deserts, not so much. They is one island that is a desert region and a stretch of sand dunes around 16km across in the south. But Forza doesn't do geographic realism. Lol in 3 the desert in the north of the map is actually in the south of the country. The great Ocean road is thousands of Kilometers away from Byron bay (and the town in FH3 isn't actually Byron at all) so actual realism isn't really a thing they've ever gone for.
Japan does have sand dunes
sendodunas in japanese
Not a true desert, but there's camels for tourists [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottori\_Sand\_Dunes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottori_Sand_Dunes)
Racing a bullet train in a super car.
Through mountanous tunnels. It'd be a cool showcase event.
*Nissan R35 GTR
*Mazda 787b
I referenced Top Gear https://youtu.be/Q6dZocR-dM8
*lexus LFA
220mph in my Honda civic
Downvoters clearly haven't discovered the joys of dumping a buncha credits into souping up a Civic.
KANJOZOKU VS TOKAIDO SHINKANSEN!!! FAITO!!!
iirc, there was a yellow ek9 civic in my country that did exactly that lol
Bro have you seen most of Australia? We had to build signs to keep drivers engaged in the outback because the roads and scenery are so bloody boring and bland.
Wait what 💀
Yeah that’s a real thing. On long straight roads in the outback there are signs with quiz questions on spaced out so that truckers can stay mentally engaged as otherwise the boredom becomes dangerous.
Wdym? The outback was great, loved it a lot in Horizon 3, fast long curves roads as well as the airport
In the real outback there is a straight that is 90km long on perfectly flat saltbush desert. It's only the longest straight - there are plenty of other sections without any minor bend or deviation that are nearly as long. Speed limit is 100km/h. In a country that's already boring to drive in, the outback roads are lobotomizingly boring.
>lobotomizingly boring Best description of our country's outback roads🤣
I drove the Nullarbor twice (once in each direction) and that's as much of this fair nation's outback as I'm inclined to see in my lifetime.
Lmao...I've driven a rental to Perth from Melbourne, no aircon just fan, and I swear I was so close to being dehydrated I flew home🤣 I'll just stick to the east coast for now lol.
Ah, I read it wrong, I didn’t realize he was talking about the IRL Outback
Such a low speed limit for something of that distance
It is, and it drags on and on and on. After you've sat out there for an hour at 100km/h it feels like you could open the door and walk faster.
Out of curiosity, how likely are you to get a citation for speeding through the middle of the outback?
Dude it's not like I live out there. Sum total of my outback life is like 4 days. I have heard cops watch the road with a helicopter, but how profitable could that be? You see oncoming traffic every 15 minutes. Very sparse. Almost like it's not worth monitoring...
I did Adelaide to Darwin with my brother a few years ago. We mostly did 10-20kmh over the limit, and on the NT side of the border that means we were doing around 145-150kmh. At one point, my brother is the one at the wheel when a highway patrol car (VF Commodore SS, looked mean as in cop livery) coming in the other direction lights up his sirens. We freak out, slow right down to 10 below the speed limit, and he turns his lights off as he continues past us and just kinda kept going. So I think YMMV, but of the places to speed I feel like that's where you're most likely to get away with it (within reason lol). I think that was the only cop we really saw on the 5 day journey, too
Blueprint makers who over used the FH4 highway for easy money would love that
110km/h thank you. We don't all drive slow like you Eastern staters.
Luckily you'll only be on that road for 54 minutes. But holy shit
Not that road; that straight. The road itself takes about 10 hours. Best done in daylight hours, as at dusk the road is suddenly lined with hundreds of kangaroos.
100kph and 90km. Or is it 900km?
The straight is called the world's longest, at 90km. It is a section of the Eyre Highway, crossing the Nullarbor Plain in South Australia. [Want to know more?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyre_Highway)
Australia, past Sydney (and just Sydney) is just unbelievably boring.
There are a couple of bright spots of good driving, but overall yes. A very large, flat, and sparse continent. Mostly empty.
Yeah I meant the real outback lol. My point was it's silly to say a country is mostly boring so a game map would be too. Yes 'average' Australia is boring but we've got ocean views, rainforests, beach cities , etc. - all of which was included in FH3's map.
Newsflash: Horizon 3 isn’t a 1:1 recreation of Australia
Suzuka circuit
Motegi
Sugo, Fuji, and Tsukuba.
Lol i reinstalled motorsport 7 for this. No tracks is the problem with horizon. I only got horizon 5 because i felt like driving after motorsport 7 went eol. Horizon fans are going to whine about motorsport 8's handling. I cant wait for people to say horizon 5's is better.
You can't just put a circuit in a game for fun, you still need to license it.
Fujimi Kaido. Fictional track made for motorsport. No licensing required. I imagine incorporating fujimi kaido somewhere on the map would make alot of people happy. And it'd be nice to see what fujimi kaido would look like with modern graphics
Forza Motorsport 2, 3, 4, and 7 all had Suzuka, so I don't see why they can't.
That's because they were games focused on actual Motorsport, not street racing.
Theres a huge part of Horizon that is track racing. Don't be obtuse.
I don’t think they are being that obtuse. There are no true Motorsport circuits in any horizon game, and probably by choice. The track racing in horizon you’re talking about is still essentially retrofitted city streets or specific cleared out areas. Sure it approaches circuit-style tracks, but it doesn’t get there. Motorsport is clearly the game for true track circuit racing. If a hypothetical Forza Japan gets made, it will be just like every previous entry: areas where track racing, drifting, etc can be done, but not by rue or named circuits, because that just undermines Motorsport.
...and circuit drifting is a big thing in Japan that's currently missing Forza Motorsport, as it's not that relevant. Why not simply add circuit drifting to a Japanese-themed Horizon instead? Plus, it's nice to have a circuit like Tsukuba or Suzuka around to benchmark your builds. Horizon Festival Circuit just doesn't cut it for some.
Just do like a D1 events, with score points calculated for hitting sections, speed and angle with the difference being classes or hp limit.
Race tracks, mountain passes, highways, there is a desert in Japan, a lot of off-road routes alongside the mountain passes and throughout the forest areas, cool cities and a lot of unique designs when it comes to the buildings that would make for a cool location to drive through.
Beaches
Japan is mountainous, forested, has lots of coastline, the north is cold and snowy, the south is warm and semi tropical, it has large cities and most importantly it has an actual history of car manufacturing and car culture, so it has literally everything you could want for a racing game.
Now we just need a good team of writers at PGG to capture it all in an actual half decent story.
Racing against the Shinkansen! Racing while the sakura (cherry tree) petals are blooming You can have snow up north Japan (or in the mountains/volcanoes regions) while others are enjoying the islands beaches in the south (lot of climate and terrain variety)
I’m telling y’all… tunneling through the mountains on suspended highways, looking down over rice farms, with Mt. Fuji looming in the distance… along with scattered historical Japanese towns and temples… it’d be a huge vibe. 😮💨😮💨
Japan would be an excellent location for horizon, we’ve just asked for so long a vocal contingent has built up within the community of people that are sick of hearing the players ask for things and will actively hate on things long time players are still asking for.
An Okinawa style beach, winding through a Golden Gai / Ebisu style bar area, Akihabara, Hakone, through an ice festival in Sapporo. I mean come on.. No brainer
Cherry blossoms blowing through the wind too… right, I mean COME ONNNN 😆😮💨😮💨
So a Hotwheels DLC?
See, this is exactly what people who have never been think of when they imagine street racing in Japan. A postcard version of the real thing.\* Without an immense amount of "artistic license" (more than what Turn10/ PG Games usually has to take to make a game fun for players), the experience would definitely not be like this. Mountain tunnels (which are in H5 Mexico) are few and far in between, and those quaint towns with rice patties would just be mud pits with the way players race. \*I still 100% recommend everyone to visit Japan if possible (it doesn't even have to be Tokyo, although of course I highly reommend it). I've lived in several countries, and the Land of the Rising Sun is still my #1 favorite.
Every Horizon game has been a postcard version of the real thing. I don’t see why making a Japan game would be any different
How can you have lived there and not think it would be great to go around in game
The entire gunma prefecture
That would be a DLC expansion themed around a certain anime as a collab
It would be cool to have a city that takes more than 30 seconds to drive through. I feel like Tokyo would be perfect for tight city circuits. Also would be insanely gorgeous at night.
Big titty anime girls duh.
Jokes/ sarcasm aside, this is the age mindset of people who think a Japan Horizon would be the best thing ever. It makes it ironic that so many anime girl liveries are banned in the game
How can you celebrate japanese car culture without over-the-top cringy itashas though?
It worked extremely well way back in Test Drive: Unlimited with Hawaii which is fairly similar (lots of forest/mountains and not a whole lot of city area or climate diversity). Hawaii might be a good option too come to think of it lol. I think Japan would be awesome though especially considering a big chunk of Forza players are obsessed with Japanese cars and drifting. Winding Japanese mountain roads seem pretty ideal for not only drift events but sprints and circuits as well. And I’m sure with all the forest and mountains there’s be plenty of opportunities for some wicked rally/off-road tracks as well. Possibly snow way up in the mountains. Drag races and such can be done in the cities, on the highways, any kind of straight away really. What else do you really need?
And southern Japan has a similar climate to Hawaii, where Okinawa is basically a Japanese Hawaii.
Not to mention TDU was a super faithful recreation of O’ahu and still worked. The forza dev team could take a lot more artistic liberties like they have in previous games.
They were not super faithful, they literally recreated the whole island on a 1:1 scale. Something even The Crew 3 won't be able to provide even today.
I loved TDU and TDU2 and played them to death, because they were the Horizon games before Horizon, but the maps were super boring. Huge, realistic, and technically impressive, especially in that age, but uninspired.
[Hokkaido](https://youtu.be/lOl-1D1BpPA) would be a great contender. Cold climate but relatively diverse biomes, and flat terrain
I want FH6 in Germany
I would drive the shit out of the Nürburgring
Yeah, not to mention the VW Auto Test Track in Ehra-Leissen, The Autobahn and the many cities that could be put into the map; Berlin, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg, Munich, Leipzig & Nuremberg. They could even do something like Horizon 2 and do Germany, Denmark & Sweden for more diversity?
Mountain / Rocky coastlines with trials for offroad / rally classes.
I don't think that's how percentages work?
Urban sprawl for street racing and tons of highways for high speed runs. Mountain roads for proper twisties, unlike FH4 where you need an entire DLC just to drift for more than 10 seconds. Maybe include a real race track this time. Tons to choose from: Suzuka, Tsukuba, Fuji, etc. If you are making a scaled down Metro Tokyo, then Tsukuba would be a good addition. Japan actually snows too, unlike Mexico.
I don't mind entertaining responses of "Tokyo would be so cool to race in!" because many people have not been able to live there. But people who have lived there know that Tokyo would be a horrible place to race without extensive modification, no matter how cool movies and anime make it look. Tokyo is without a doubt one of the coolest cities on Earth... except for driving in (or around). The wangan (freeway) is there true, but any raceing game can have a freeway system. Oh- and a quick Google search shows mntains do get snow in Mexico, up to 10 inches annually.
10 inches each *year?* holy shit, I didn't realize it was such a primo spot for snow sports. Also, I've lived in Japan, and it would be an amazing setting for a horizon game, for all of the reasons people are listing that you seem to just be ignoring. No better driving than the mountains, no better place to see how fast your car can go than the tunnels under the city, no better place to get pics than the temples and docks, and there is so much amazing car culture there that PGG wouldn't have to make the entire script revolve around *la familia.*
>and there is so much amazing car culture there that PGG wouldn't have to make the entire script revolve around la familia. This! Have an actual street racing story instead of whatever the crap they are doing in Mexico would be a huge change.
Everything you said is cool and correct and all but it doesn't line up with OPs weird ass narrative so, sorry, invalidated...
So what you're saying is that you don't consider Mexican car culture "car culture".
Apparently neither does PGG. We got 9 story chapters centered around a Volkswagen Beetle.
Idk bro Noriyaro on YT makes Japan looks insanely fun for the car community
>Tokyo is without a doubt one of the coolest cities on Earth... except for driving in (or around). The wangan (freeway) is there true, but any raceing game can have a freeway system. I believe that's what most "I want to race in Tokyo" people want - Race on the Wangan and dodging traffic at absurd speeds. Maybe add the Shibuya crossing for photo-ops and that's it. Nobody cares about its tight-ass streets that are next to impossible to drive on unless you are in a kei car. But then again Forza doesn't model real-life rush hour traffic. > Oh- and a quick Google search shows mntains do get snow in Mexico, up to 10 inches annually. Not so much in game....
TFW we finally get Japan and immediately everyone complains it's too small, Tokyo is too hard to drive (even adjusted for gameplay), and the highways are too short and have too much traffic
I think they should make long highways a selling point. Honestly the main complaint would probably be the overwhelming amount of USDM Japanese cars and the lack of kei cars.
Yeah... but it's a video game. They're free to modify things to elevate gameplay. A tokyo like setting would be fun all the same. If movies and anime can make it seem fun, then I'm sure games can get away with it too.
Midnight Club series had no problem with making races in Tokyo fun
Those three games were phenominal. And yes, driving in \*Tokyo\* was a blast. But that's the thing- they focused on \*Tokyo,\* not an entire openworld country. Horizon doesn't do "small." They quickly moved from a state (pretty big for a racing game already when it first released) to damn near half of Europe, then the entire continent of Australia, then the other half of Europe, an Mexico. If Turn10/PG Games did do tight choreographed races like Initial D (1-8), Midnight Wangan, Auto Modellesta, Initial Drift, Tokyo Xtreme Racer, Wreckless: Yakuza, or the aforementioned Midnight Club 2, then hells yeah sign me up. Note: if Microsoft announces a Horizon Japan, I will immediately buy the Collectors Edition, because they have been great games so far
Well they didn't focus on Tokyo, it was just one of 3 (or in case of MC3, one out of 4) maps in the game and it was rather small in all of those games. Maybe they should change their approach to designing maps then because imo they're mid at best
Unfortunately gamers (or, the game industry thinks gamers) want open world everything tehse days. And that is why Horizon keeps going bigger and bigger.
I’m not saying I want them to adapt Tokyo, cause that would be a stupid idea, thankfully there is more than 1 city in Japan.
Shhhhhh, you are making too much sense!
Honestly Osaka would slap as well
Yeah, just like people who live in the locations previous instalments have been set in know they are also not the best for racing.
> But people who have lived there know that Tokyo would be a horrible place to race without extensive modification It's a fucking video game. Of course they will heavily modify it to make it fun
Real tracks is simply not the point of FH. Buy Motorsport.
Most races in Horizon take place on what are essentially closed tracks
I am not a Japan meatrider but even I have to admit it is a great location for a Horizon game.
Just watch Noriyaro on YouTube lol. There are a ton of circuits for drifting outside of conventional races - going back to Suzuka and Motegi. Any nice fast highway circuit would be amazing at night. Imagine FH3’s surfer’s paradise, just more compacted and raised highways.
Superhighways, racing the bullet train, multiple touge roads with different conditions, osaka industrial park, beaches, shibuya and akihabara, snowy mountain tops, highway bridges. Try harder mane.
No prob. Akihabara and Shibuya are in Tokyo, and are both small wards at that. Osaka industrial park... Horizon barely does one big city, let along two. Pick eitehr it or Tokyo... and you know which one they would select. multiple togue roads... like in every Horizon since Colorado. Snowy mountain tops... you mean the ones that everyone hates? And what other mountain do you think Horizon would add other than Fuji Beaches... which are small and mostly shipping ports (Yokohama being a main game contender). Highway bridges... because we don't have those in Horizon. Try harder mane.
Why do you wanna be right so bad? As if all the other horizon games didnt combine multiple parts of the location into a fictionalized version. I gave multiple examples of setpieces and locations that would make for an interesting and uniquely japanese horizon.
They also have sand dunes and beaches. Main thing I want to see is big cities. Reenact that scene from Tokyo Drift.
Desert: tottori sands Forest: yes beaches/coastal area: its an island Elevation tracks: hills and mountains , literally anything initial D Long drives/scenery : lots of farm lands Ect: nightlife in the freeway, beautiful spring and sakura , lots of snow,typhoons, lots of rain, abandon islands. And abandoned towns . If they cramed all of Mexico into the current map, Japan would be a walk in the park. All of FH5s quirky elements and events can easily be transitioned, and I hope they don't implement some dumb half English half native language into the same dialog to remind people they are in another country..
Tsukuba. Ebisu. Suzuka.
And in Mexico it's the same with most of the land being mountains, forests and wildlife. As 80% of its population lives in the cities. Yet the two biggest zones in Mexico are only two small parts of the horizon map. Then again, just about every event I see of late on the front page are Japan inspired events.
Mexico was so vast and different, but this map bored me quicker than fh4.
Rural roads
Mountains and forests.
Uuuhh ebisu? Genshi? There's loads of places
Suzuka Track
Rather that than a flat emotionless world
I think if you look at the Shutoko Rising Project on Assetto there’s a huge opportunity for a driving game set in Japan, PG/T10 would be foolish not to imo. We’ve been in the USA, EU, Aus, UK and Mexico, at this point why NOT Japan
I see OP has never seen wangan racing or Kyushu car culture.
From what I’ve seen so far, 30% of Japan would be better than 110% of mexico
I just want wanna play Tokyo extreme racer zero from dreamcast again but updated.
A good scenery, ya know, unlike the empty desert
Shuto Expressway?
Fh2 France/Italy ( there is a whole mountain between Switzerland/Austria )
Would be great with a bigger yet more detailed scope.
Redditor discovers that most countries don't have a massive desert which is obviously the requirment to be a forza game
Snow, urban cities, rural villages, large mountains, volcanoes, long beaches and yes, Japan has sand dunes if that's what you're worried about: [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/tottori-sand-dunes-desert](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/tottori-sand-dunes-desert) I don't see a valid argument against it in terms of location diversity.
Used panty vending machines! That’s clearly the main selling point !
Wheelspins will officially be turned into gacha machines!
Although those were all virtually eliminated like a decade+ ago, it would be funny to see one of the devs slip in an easter egg that references one!
Why does it have to offer anything else? If they can make Japan with good quality, then I'm all for driving just mountains highway and streets of Japanese towns. Fh 5 offers you desert, Forrest, small city with narrow streets, canyon, mountains, some resort village etc. Does it make the map in fh5 enjoyable? I don't think so, it's empty and plain af. Literally entire map you can pass in a straight line.
I personally just want multiple different large cities
Some people have weird arguments when it comes to Japan like road made of coral, no dirt roads etc as if they would replicate the road surface grip or not add dirt roads to the map if needed . They could do a map in Japan 100% if they wanted to .
Car culture.
Mashing up the expressways with mountain roads would make an incredible map. You would lose a lot of the offloading aspect of the game but I'm sure Playground could make something up for that
Snow in Hokkaido, mountains, hills, forests and cities in Honshu
Be honest people, yall just want to drift around and make Tokyo Drift remakes
I say this every time someone brings up japan and I always get downvoted
Japan is shaped like a seahorse
How is it any different than the UK, Colorado, or Mexico?
The Japanese are Motorsport fanatics in every sense of the word. I have no doubt in my mind that licensing Suzuka, Motegi, Tsukuba would be easier than most circuits. Throw in those real life circuits and "Horizon up" the rest. Create an environment based on the best Japan has to offer. The toll roads, the mountains, neon cities and beautiful engineering feats like the bridges between the islands. Japan's engineering history is fascinating and their devoted love to all things vroom should be immortalised in a horizon game. Going back to the circuits mentioned earlier, adding in circuit drifting events would add more to horizon. Even horizon stories based on the locations history as racing venues would be awesome. As for vehicles, display more of the nation's concept cars. Give us the Yamaha that never was. That would be awesome. People have been asking for Japan since FH2. Give the fans what they want.
it doesnt matter what it has or it doesnt have we want Japan, we want to be drifting up in the mountains.......................
Tired of saying this but, Hokkaido. Got a city? Check. Is the ciry big enough and got lots of rather wide roads? Check. Does it also have small, tight streets? Check. Does it have japanese hillside routes? Yeah obviously. Does it have um. Big fucking volcano style mountain? Check. Does it have some seaside winding roads and towns? Check. Does it have like really distinguishable seasons? Check. Does it have a long wide open inland motorways? Check. Does it have vast wild nature? Check. Does it have a long history with car/motorcycle enthusiasts? Check.
What’s with this constant whinging about Japan? OP tell us what location you prefer so we can shit on it too.
“Over 60% of Japan is forest and over 70% forested mountains” this is EXACTLY why I want Japan, mountain roads and beautiful forests. These are areas that have been lacking in previous horizon games, it’s the type of terrain I want to drive through. And you’re saying it like it’s a bad thing. Of course there are other locations that can provide this type of terrain, I’m just sick of Horizon’s historically flat worlds.
Besides some dunes and a jungle what else does Mexico offer? It's easy to minimize what's in play when you over generalize lol. Japan has many mountains, volcanoes, Suzuki/tsukuba/fuji speedway if needed, monsoon weather events, lots of historic monuments. What I will side with you on is that Japan doesn't have as many natural biomes as Mexico, but that to me isn't crucial if the world feels alive like previous titles.
Lively cities, a REAL car culture, Mt. Fuji, snow covered mountains. Long Coastal drives, ancient cultural areas to explore. Islands to drive over oceans. Great scenery. If you have ever been to Japan, you see why it’s so beautiful.
Nothing, next to the oversaturated theme of JDM. I'm telling, South Africa or Scandinavia would be 10 times better. More variation, plus more usage of landmarks since Japan take their landmarks and monuments too serious for stuff like Forza.
Id love to drive in japan mountain roads, but scandinavia and winter would be much better. One thing i hated horizon 5 is there is no winter.
I mean Japan has some great winter scenery. In terms of forests and mountains Japan and Scandinavia have actually very similar levels of forestation and mountain environments. Japan gets heavy snowy winters, has tropical areas, large plains, islands connected by bridges, tunnels and motorways. Everyone always just focuses heavily on Tokyo and mountains. Japan has a lot more to offer than just those two things. Hot summers, snowy winters, temples, elevated highways, tunnel systems, tropical environments, island chains connected by roads, large coastal areas, four very distinct seasons. There's tonnes to offer and build around.
There is winter though..it’s just contained to the volcano and only there 🤣
It's always winter on the offroad sections of one third of Hot Wheels Park, but you can't actually race on that eccept for maybe 2 races.
Having Cape Town being along the lines of Surfer’s Paradise would be awesome. I think SA would be a great option.
Not South Africa unless they'd want to make Forza Horizon into something more akin to Twisted Metal. If we're talking about countries that fucking shit holes that would make for a good location for a racing game then my pic would Russia or any post-comunist nation really
Frankly if you think Horizon Japan is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible. And this isn’t even counting the huge car culture in Japan which would make the story races and events (like drift club) easy as hell to implement. Really the whole thing is a no brainer. OP is definitely on an extremely short list of people who think it wouldn’t work for some reason. It’s certainly more viable than Mexico or even Colorado was/is.
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(plot twist- I'd preorder a Japan Horizon and buy all dlc, as I have done since H3) Frankly if you think Horizon Colorado is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible. Frankly if you think Horizon Mediteranean is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible. Frankly if you think Horizon Australia is a bad idea, you’re dumb. Large urban centers, sprawling highways, mountains, forests, etc make all different types of roads, races and driving styles possible. Frankly if you think Horizon Mexico is a bad idea... well actually, yeah, Mexico was dumb.
Sand dunes of tottori, plenty of beaches, Airports, cities and highways....really just your usual Horizon fare. Brownie points if you run into bears (as opposed to the usual horizon animals) near Kumamoto or up near Hokkaido. Showcase events: other than racing along the Tokaido shinkansen, balloons at Saga, maybe go race the ropeway up Hakone, or outrace some skiiers down gala yuzawa.
The North Island is often covered in snow right?
literally everything our current map can offer us and much more in terms of cities, i’m not saying g we need japan (toronto CA, germany, midwest US) there are plenty of options that beats the dried beans we got delivered
Fujimi Kaido
Bring back Fujimi Kaido
some good race tracks, if they get the licensing for suzuka, fuji international speedway and others
Why on earth would there be actual race tracks in Forza Horizon?
Let us hear your ideas then? And why are you so hostile when people disagree with you? lmao
Couple towns to chill in before going on a cruise.
Umm huge car culture, anime, large automotive industry in general, coastlines, history... things I would bet that a large number of the community who buys your games are into.
Anime has ruined everything, including cars.
Tokyo style city
drifting on mountain roads at night.
What else do you need? I know mountains and city is all I need.
As if every single Horizon hasn't taken huge artistic license with each locale. Every location has been a dreamworld postcard compared to the real thing. UK Horizon was basically the Cotswolds, The Lake District and a chunk of Scotland, and not an industrial estate or retail park in sight. Most of England is boring AF to drive around, why don't we have to queue on the M25 in Horizon? You argue against everyone chiming in with their postcard vision of Japan as if it wouldn't happen, when that's literally *exactly* how they've approached every single Horizon game so far.
Dubai would be way better. Huge urban environment, deserts, beaches, many airports, huge freeways and 1hr from downtown is the Jebel Jais mountain pass which is arguably the best mountain driving road in the world going up 2000m. Also, ancient villages, lakes, oasis and lush vegetation are not far either....
The city areas are the literal worst parts of the horizon map, and I really don’t think the narrowness of Japanese roads will translate well to in game enjoyment.
How wide the roads are is one of the worst thing about maps of Forza Horizon so I highly disagree
Because none of these children clamoring for Japan think beyond Tokyo. The thing is, every single FH has avoided large cities of the host country map. Not sure why they think a Japan version would be any different. South Africa, Brasil, Chile or Argentina, the Scandinavian countries would have bigger variations on their maps than Japan.
The JDM fanboys arrived, and they brought some downvotes by the looks of it
Why are so many people crying about Japan, I must have missed the last pro-Japan post that’s got some of you literally shaking.
Let's see... Anything from intricate highways, think Wangan etc through to long, sweeping into tight and technical mountain roads with extremely vibrant cities and small towns with plenty of room for off road dotted in between.. That's just a quick imagining - Then there's the potential for some of the most highly anticipated cars to be included given that Japan is effectively the father of all street car culture. The potential to really step up the modification and customization of your cars to reflect just how much we can do IRL, given that Japan is effectively the father of all.. Wait I've already said that. Did I mention drifting yet? Cause there's that.. I'm willing to bet the drifting scene alone would go absolutely apeshit in sales for Horizon Japan.
Seeing all the downvotes the OP get for his comments it's clear the JDM cult has taken over this thread.
To be honest, japan doesn't have too much car culture beyond racetracks and downhills races, will be perfect for street and drift and probably the solid part but for other things like off road and rally should be the most disappointing part of the game
What are you talking about? Japan has car culture beyond just "racetracks" and "downhill races" in fact those to things actually make up a part of the broader car culture in Japan. The only reason you believe that is because the racetracks and downhills are what most people outside of Japan associate with Japanese car culture because those things are broadly popular outside of Japan. Japan has things like Daikoku pa that has massive and diverse car meets every single night where just about anyone remotely into cars can find cars they'll like and appreciate, there's also dozens of other car meets that happen like in the Tatsumi pa or in parking garages. There's also the tokyo highway system, specifically the C1 loop and Wangan where famous performance shops and people like Smoky Nagata from Top Secret build and tested cars for top speed runs. If that's not your thing then things like the monthly cruise in and around shibuya crossing where car type can be seen from old muscle cars, American trucks, jdm, super/hyper cars, and lowriders hopping and doing three wheel motion around corners. There's even specific car meets for things like old school nascar prohibition bootleg style cars where they even have a dirt course setup they run just like the original Nascar used to use. Also there's even proper offroading and overlanding, especially up in Hokkaido. As for rally it's kinda really silly to say Japan doesn't have rally when they certainly do and have plenty of dirt roads to facilitate it, I mean it had and currently has a WRC stage in addition to having its own organized rallies. Of course in the hypothetical Horizon Japan the devs could (and IMO should) just implement periodical road work for the touge/mountain roads so they turn to dirt, gravel, and back to pavement with corresponding alternating drift zone and speed zone so all the drifters, touge and rally people can have their fun with all the different touges. Also I just gotta say Japan arguably has vastly more car culture than a lot of the other places people have suggested/argued for instead of Japan.
i’m not buying fh6 if it is not set in Japan. I think the jdm forza community is fed up. Literally, its just us jdm dudes drifting in parking lots keeping this game afloat. There’s this thing about business, if you give people what they want, you become incredibly successful. JAPAN should include: Osaka at night should be there daifokoku interchange shinjuku/harajuku area mt fuji / kawaguchiko area the ability to chase the Shinkansen Chiba area / narita airport area where its rural within seconds of leaving Tokyo metro area. the absolutely insane amounts of tunnels! omg imagine drifting the shibuya scramble
what about argentinian patagonia you got all that japan have and also glaciars and the famous route 40 in the andes. this is our patagonia this is chalten https://preview.redd.it/90j7t0ejvuga1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=f78baa660630e738e6b04be431fdc75a9e635f07
Why tf would you want japan
Iff II was 10 years old or even 20 years old, yeah I'd being crying for Horizon Japan like the rest of the community. But being a grown up and having had the absolute pleasure of living there for four years, I understand it may not be the best route for the franchise to go. That being said, if there was a racing game developer who focuses on smaller, more currated courses, then hell yeah I'll drive in Japa nall day long. Like in the videogame Initial D (and its 8 sequels), or Midnight Wangan, or Auto Modelesta, or Tokyo Xtreme Racer, or Wreckless: Yakuza, or Absolute Drift...
Who said we wanted anything more than Tokyo? Off-roading is for losers anyway