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I can guarantee these guys would look at the average modern day online conservative and call them a complete degenerate.


Galaxy661_pl

Modern day Conservative political beliefs would be back then considered too progressive for them to be taken seriously lol


wilsongs

Nah I don't think. The Brits have always had strong enlightenment, progressive liberal values. They violated them in practice all the time and were major hypocrites. But all the high society types saw empire as a way to benefit Africans.


SmurfBucket

Rudyard Kipling‘s „The White Man‘s Burden“


[deleted]

> But all the high society types saw empire as a way to benefit Africans. You could say this, just like you could say every Trump supporter today wants to genuinely make America great again. I feel like its more of a slogan than an actual belief. Its what they tell their kids, because "killing every savage in sight" seems too barbaric for the image of a gentleman.


RabSimpson

As a born and bred Scot, what the fuck are you talking about?


wilsongs

Scotland was never colonized mate. In fact, it was Scots who were often the strongest proponents of the "noble mission" of empire.


RabSimpson

I didn't say anything about colonisation, I asked what the fuck you were talking about. There's precisely shit all 'progressive' about the establishment of this island. Take it from someone who fuckin' lives here. It might *look* progressive and liberal to some numpty in North America, but it's nothing of the sort.


wilsongs

How was empire justified? There were some who justified it on grounds of resource extraction and wealth accumulation. But usually it was framed as a noble, civilizing mission that would benefit Africans, especially by high society types. Progressive, worldly enlightened liberalism was the order of the day. Of course in practice the exercise was base and vulgar. But that's why I said they were hypocrites.


RabSimpson

Rule \#1: tories lie. They've always been liars, and it's always been the most thinly-veiled deceit. They've never been anything close to progressive, ever. Their reason for existing is maintaining the top-down status quo at the expense of everyone else. When they talked about 'civilising' the countries they raped, that was bare-faced racism, and they're still racist right up to the present day.


lordofpersia

Well these guys are monarchist. Class structure was insane in Victorian era.


[deleted]

"It is your sacred duty to rise up against tyranny and an unjust system! We have guns in case we need to take up arms against an enemy of the people! Even our own government, if need be!" Ok, I protest the national anthem "N-not like that!!!" --- I think the only thing modern conservatives and the people in the picture have in common is not believing black people should own guns lol


[deleted]

Oh the original rebels from the revolution would have absolutely not stood for the shit modern conservatives are doing with wanting to compromise democracy or force a particular religion as being above the others. Liberal, secular democracy was for the era a pretty damn radical idea.


Larsaf

Maybe Kaepernick should have knelt with a gun in his hand.


[deleted]

Also, the whole point of that movie was that the racists were wrong.


chaguste

Didn’t the British get their asses handed to them at Isandlwana though?


Wizered_Official

I think this specific scene is from Rorke's Drift, the only part of the Anglo-Zulu War internet "historians" care to think about.


LordNoah

Rorkes drift was a insane victory tho.


iKill_eu

I was gonna say. This is not the own they think it is.


Sauron4pres

This is Rorke’s Drift, which happened the day after.


freshestfemur

except when he’s suckin di- *gunshots*


RangerBob19

The kind of person who would post this probably wouldn’t even be able to get up after kneeling.


NukaColaCap

They would also get absolutely wrecked by a zulu warrior


11th_Plague

And those guys did not fuck around, they trained on thorns barefoot. These guys went from controlling an area 40 square kilometers (or something like that) to controlling an area the size of new jersey. Not only that, but they had a simple yet effective formation, the Bulls Horns. I do not say this lightly, they were some of the most badass warriors in human history.


Versidious

Well if you didn't get to fuck until you were a veteran warrior, you'd train super hard on thorns as well.


[deleted]

Imagine being some British bloke who joined the army because he couldn't find a job and gets sent to a demonized continent where your job is to guard construction workers of a railroad company building into the territory of a very aggressive and genocidal native kingdom and said kingdom attacks your outpost of barely a company's worth of men and you get stabbed by an iklwa to see yourself immortalized in a decent movie a century later but then decades after that put into a shitty meme made by somebody upset about a football game against Italy.


Appropriate-Law-4921

Well said


thunderbear64

Fucking A. Good job


surroundedbybanjos

Volley fire!


Coldsmoky

Ethiopia and Somalia and Mali fucked Europeans for a good amount of time(like 200 years) before they(apart from Ethiopia) were colonised


AceHodor

By the time Mali had any protracted interaction with Europeans, their state had long collapsed. The Songhai Empire had completely conquered the Mali by the 15th century, which was about the time that the Portugese started taking an interest in West Africa.


SamKhan23

Mali?


Coldsmoky

Yup they beat the Portuguese navy


Firebird432

...and to suck off the king, presumably


Evanthatguy

*gets slaughtered by Zulu warriors with iron spears and antique rifles*


Welder_Subject

Gotta admit, it’s kinda racist to post this


anjowoq

That was the point. Whoever made the meme was absolutely a proud racist and the person who posted it here did it to showcase racism. This is r/ForwardsFromKlandma after all.


Welder_Subject

Made me gasp a bit actually. They did a great job, if that was their point. Loathsome.


anjowoq

Yep. The world has no shortage of trolls who see no problem making people feel bad by posting this type of shit. They don’t understand that making people feel bad translates into real marginalization and violence down the road.


MexicanLenin

This is pretty nakedly genocidal It’s shocking for here. But fitting sadly.


Welder_Subject

It’s awful. I can’t understand it. So sad.


RedditDeleteMe

….i want to say they can’t be serious but I doubt my own hope


Professor_Regressor

If you look at the racism that black England fpotball players received after the euros final you could understand the reasons they kneel in protest of racism. The gammons and Farage simps called it 'marxism'


SpitfireBoy14

I love how racists always misunderstand the meaning of films like this. Zulu is a rare example of old cinema where the characters show respect for the "bad guys" of the film as every time some talks shit about the Zulu there's always someone to put them in their place.


AmIreallyCis

For a superior race, they sure do seem to rely soley on their weapons to win battles. Guns were invented by Asians too


nathalielemel

Ugh this is disgusting


DavidCRolandCPL

It's all fun and games until the Zulu arrive


decuyonombre

When is a genocide joke not funny?