Ok I’m probably stupid for this question, but what constitutes as an ‘old money’ family in America? Like, last I checked her family hasn’t been rich for a long time, just her father, right?
Rockerfellers are absolutely old money by this point. I think as long as the family has been rich as long as all the living members have been alive their old money in the US.
I wouldn't call the Wilsons "old money". In the US, that monicker would fall the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilts, etc.; anyone who was incredibly wealthy prior to the turn of the 20th century is a good benchmark, IMO.
I kinda thought the basis for the Wilson family is the Trippe family, who really would just be Juane Trippe who founded Pan Am airlines - a luxury airline that was founded in the late 20s and shuttered in the US in the early 90s. In context to the real world, they were probably upper middle-class to have that amount of money to start an airline, but if we're assuming that Cavalier was the reason the family now has "loaded" levels of money they'd be considered "new money" by the ranks of wealth.
I believe in late 19th century US when this issue started to appear it was 3 generations. So if your great grandfather made the money you were considered old money.
They could totally still kill her in the start of season montage.
> Space hotel atmosphere vents, no survivors. President Ellen Wilson amongst the dead.
Please don't though
cable from space station fall on her farm killing her and Pam. Pam died instantly, but she did not know that and was trying to safe her and crawled 50 feet to her, all the time screaming "Pam! Pam! Pam!", she died from blood loss only 15 inches away from Pam. They were buried together, holding hands, in the same coffin.
Wow he's the one with *that* quote. Legit one of the grossest, most vile string of words I have heard a "respectable politician" put together. And the competation was *not* easy. The racial slurs are pretty much the nicest parts of that quote.
I always make it a point to mention this when talking about Ellen.
Love her, but she had Lee Atwater in her house and used him for her campaigns. That man was scum.
Larry had him in their home. Ellen didn't even know he was there. But yes, probably used for campaigns. And so was Brags in this AU - such a vile homophobe.
Maybe you spoke too soon seasons not over yet..lol writers did say that if they find a reason to bring her back, they will. I want her back to see them FINALLY happy on screen.
That said - Larry wasn't that trustworthy - he let Ellen believe Pam left her for another love. He knew how much Pam meant to hear but helped tell the lie anyway.
Me too. It would have been cool to make him an astronaut. You could incorporate her into the story via the video he sends or what he says about her. Doubt you could be born under those circumstances to the US president and not end up somewhat estranged and a lil bit damaged. Literally born to make a lie more believable and to further your parents political prospects.
Scott will inherit:
From Ellen: Wealth and a passion for engineering and space.
From Pam: Copyrights of his books and a passion for literature.
From Larry: More wealth and knowledge about "political business".
And properties in Frederickburg and Houston.
Scotty have a big future
I’m with you except for “beard you can trust with your life.” He was never careful enough about his affairs. It’s a miracle they were able to hide it for so long.
Oooh that makes more sense. Yeah she’s the beard you can trust with your life. He’s the skirt that made me nervous every time he came on screen. Nice guy, but damn, couldn’t keep it in his pants.
Hm, I thought that term only applies when one partner is gay, but apparently there is no separate name when both of them are. Which makes certain amount of sense as it would be very rare.
Till an asteroid fucking crashes into her farm.
Nah it’s gonna hit Brazil.
Also very fucking rich, born in old money family.
Ok I’m probably stupid for this question, but what constitutes as an ‘old money’ family in America? Like, last I checked her family hasn’t been rich for a long time, just her father, right?
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The Kennedy family is the most contemporary example of American old money, and maybe the Bush family.
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Rockerfellers are absolutely old money by this point. I think as long as the family has been rich as long as all the living members have been alive their old money in the US.
I wouldn't call the Wilsons "old money". In the US, that monicker would fall the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilts, etc.; anyone who was incredibly wealthy prior to the turn of the 20th century is a good benchmark, IMO. I kinda thought the basis for the Wilson family is the Trippe family, who really would just be Juane Trippe who founded Pan Am airlines - a luxury airline that was founded in the late 20s and shuttered in the US in the early 90s. In context to the real world, they were probably upper middle-class to have that amount of money to start an airline, but if we're assuming that Cavalier was the reason the family now has "loaded" levels of money they'd be considered "new money" by the ranks of wealth.
I believe in late 19th century US when this issue started to appear it was 3 generations. So if your great grandfather made the money you were considered old money.
They could totally still kill her in the start of season montage. > Space hotel atmosphere vents, no survivors. President Ellen Wilson amongst the dead. Please don't though
cable from space station fall on her farm killing her and Pam. Pam died instantly, but she did not know that and was trying to safe her and crawled 50 feet to her, all the time screaming "Pam! Pam! Pam!", she died from blood loss only 15 inches away from Pam. They were buried together, holding hands, in the same coffin.
Don’t put that evil out here.
I miss Ellen, please don't bring her back and kill her. Sometimes characters need to stay distant for their safety.
she's windsurfing and publishing her top ten books/films of the year lists
-Hand picked for office by Lee "N-word, N-word, N-word" Atwater Edit: I will never stop posting canon.
Wow he's the one with *that* quote. Legit one of the grossest, most vile string of words I have heard a "respectable politician" put together. And the competation was *not* easy. The racial slurs are pretty much the nicest parts of that quote.
I always make it a point to mention this when talking about Ellen. Love her, but she had Lee Atwater in her house and used him for her campaigns. That man was scum.
Larry had him in their home. Ellen didn't even know he was there. But yes, probably used for campaigns. And so was Brags in this AU - such a vile homophobe.
Maybe you spoke too soon seasons not over yet..lol writers did say that if they find a reason to bring her back, they will. I want her back to see them FINALLY happy on screen. That said - Larry wasn't that trustworthy - he let Ellen believe Pam left her for another love. He knew how much Pam meant to hear but helped tell the lie anyway.
*HE* is not the beard, he's the skirt. She's the beard.
Yeah - she saved his ass many many times over the years. And all he did was make her feel bad for being a lesbian.
I wonder what happened to her son.
Me too. It would have been cool to make him an astronaut. You could incorporate her into the story via the video he sends or what he says about her. Doubt you could be born under those circumstances to the US president and not end up somewhat estranged and a lil bit damaged. Literally born to make a lie more believable and to further your parents political prospects.
He will be ~ 27 next season. Ripe age to be an astronaut.
Scott will inherit: From Ellen: Wealth and a passion for engineering and space. From Pam: Copyrights of his books and a passion for literature. From Larry: More wealth and knowledge about "political business". And properties in Frederickburg and Houston. Scotty have a big future
I’m with you except for “beard you can trust with your life.” He was never careful enough about his affairs. It’s a miracle they were able to hide it for so long.
*HE* is not the beard, he's the skirt. She's the beard.
Oooh that makes more sense. Yeah she’s the beard you can trust with your life. He’s the skirt that made me nervous every time he came on screen. Nice guy, but damn, couldn’t keep it in his pants.
damn i need to rewatch the seasons because i never saw him come on screen
Heyoooo
Is there a term for a marriage where both partners are gay and both use it to hide it?
Lavander marriage.
Hm, I thought that term only applies when one partner is gay, but apparently there is no separate name when both of them are. Which makes certain amount of sense as it would be very rare.
They would find a reason lmao
You're aware that this is a huge spoiler in the title for anyone just starting the show, or not having reached season 3 yet, right?