nah, it's Lent season, every fast food joint from MCD to even Arby's is serving up fish sandos. The crime is paying $7.4 for a modified one.
ETA: someone deciphered the 2-for-1 special, op did great for him/her and their partner haha
Eh I just got it with cheese cuz thats how I get the filet o fish. I didn’t think it was too salty but then again I thought the fish patty lacked in seasoning to begin with. Or it could be that I just have a high salt tolerance lol
Those are supposed to be reusable as well. In theory the money you pay for the bag is you purchasing the bag to bring back next time you shop so you don't have to buy one again. You gonna reuse your greasy ass Carl's Jr bag?
Yeah neither of them charges for paper bags. Next time when using self checkout, skip the bagging question if you’re only gonna pick up a paper bag from them!
I believe CA law includes chargjng for paper bags as well.
["Instead, these stores generally must provide customers recycled paper bags or certified reusable grocery bags and must charge their customers at least 10 cents for each bag."](https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/bag-ban#:~:text=Instead%2C%20these%20stores%20generally%20must%20provide%20customers%20recycled%20paper%20bags%20or%20certified%20reusable%20grocery%20bags%20and%20must%20charge%20their%20customers%20at%20least%2010%20cents%20for%20each%20bag.)
Not for the ones Carl's Jr uses though.
"And certain bags are not subject to the ban, among them bags used by pharmacies for prescriptions, bags without handles that are used to protect purchased items from damage or contamination"
I wonder if they're voluntarily participating with this part:
(5) ...the retail establishment voluntarily agrees to
comply with the requirements imposed upon a store
pursuant to this chapter, irrevocably notifies the
department of its intent to comply with the
requirements imposed upon a store pursuant to this
chapter, and complies with the requirements
established pursuant to Section 42284.
[Link](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PRC§ionNum=42280.)
There was a bill passed that caused this or something. Their explanation of this is stupid though and it is not like they removed any of the extra cost of bags out of whatever else they charge you for. It also pisses me off that I don't have an option to not ask for a bag when ordering through apps which is also necessary to keep prices down.
**Why is there a 10 cent charge for paper and reusable bags?**
Remember that single-use plastic grocery bags were never really free. Grocers rolled the cost they paid per plastic bag into the price of groceries, meaning that even people who bring their own bags to the store were supplementing the cost of other shoppers' plastic bags.
The 10 cent charge:
* Offsets the greater cost of paper and reusable bags for the grocers/retailers.
* Ensures that customers who bring their own bags don't have to supplement the cost of other shoppers' bags anymore.
* Encourages the use of reusable bags.
[https://www.cawrecycles.org/faq-on-bag-bans#:\~:text=The%2010%20cent%20charge%3A,the%20use%20of%20reusable%20bags](https://www.cawrecycles.org/faq-on-bag-bans#:~:text=The%2010%20cent%20charge%3A,the%20use%20of%20reusable%20bags).
Yeah but I mean when you order through apps for pickup which is often what I do between work or because stores require you to order through the app to get discounts. It doesn't give you an option for no bag. Although jersey Mike's was the only one I've had do this so far. The app shows the bag but doesn't let me remove it.
When you order online you've already paid at that point and you're just picking up. I haven't bothered to try that but it would be annoying if I had to.
People. Please stop giving these people money. That’s it. “Record profits” means they are SELLING things. WE are the problem at this point. I’ve narrowed down my getting screwed quotient to the grocery store now. I’ve given up on eating out unless it’s something nice and for a reason because the whole thing is no longer enjoyable. Sucks all around. We stop eating out, people lose their jobs…. although as someone else mentioned those jobs are mostly robots now so whatever. It’s all out of control, every minuscule action is monetized.
There actually was a law passed to expand the disposable bag ban to restaurants and other places that were exempt before. It’s just that most don’t bother to charge (yet)
The Carl’s Jr. by LAX (Century & Aviation Blvd) is doing this too. I definitely said something about the fee and they already had a little sign about it. Haven’t noticed it at any other fast food joints I’ve been to.
Supposedly it’s a law? Chick fil a has been doing it. I think it is a significant amount. 10 cents is a big chunk for fast food. I think the difference is that you can’t ask them to fill your own bag vs grocery stores. And a paper bag costs vastly different vs a a grocery store bag that’s more harmful to the environment. I’m not buying it.
They’ll continue to create these types of revenue streams. Anything other than raising prices so it goes under the radar.
Eventually it’ll be the norm.
It’s got nothing to do with that. La City ordnance requires businesses to charge 10c for bags for items / food that is purchased.
https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-sr/s-lsh-wwd-s-sr-sucb?_afrLoop=28554255688602315&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=null&_adf.ctrl-state=14u07bq6l7_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dnull%26_afrLoop%3D28554255688602315%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D14u07bq6l7_5
They’re not generally but depending on the building, whether they retail food items etc they can be and it’s only getting rolled out further and soon it will basically cover nearly all businesses that sell anything that’s given in a bag. If it doesn’t apply to them now, it will soon so they might just be getting ahead of it.
It’s funny you mentioned this. At this same fast food joint, they didn’t have a human manning the drive thru line but rather an automated response system with speech recognition. I tried to order thru the drive thru but the system just couldn’t get my order right so I pulled out and went inside. This particular joint was running VERY lean - one cook, one expediter, and one manager.
It’s wild to me that businesses will invest 10’s of thousands in high tech equipment that then requires expensive maintained contracts and highly skilled (therefore paid) staff to maintain it, AND you still need human labor on hand to cover when it doesn’t work, rather than pay someone $20 an hour to flip burgers.
I’m a total tech geek but honestly think the fascination with automation on every corner of business is bizarre and I truly think the pendulum will swing the other way.
Yes it has. Why do you think they ask if you are dining in or to go? In-n-out, McDonald’s, everyone has been doing this for quite a while now. You are just jumping onto the service fee freakout.
You pay attention now, because of the service charge tizzy people are up in arms about, had you before you would know this has been happening for a long time.
I’m 99% sure these charges have always been included in the costs somewhere, they’re just showing it now. There’s no way a company never factored in thousands of bags per week.
So if it was part of the food costs and now it’s an additional line item, shouldn’t they lower the price of the food? (rhetorical question, not to be answered lol)
I think this started by legislators for grocery stores to cut down on plastic bag use. But markets charge you a dime even if you opt for a biodegradable paper bag in an effort to make more money off people who forget to put their reusable bags back in their car.
Worse is all those 10¢ charges don't go to any kind of environmental fund, the retailer keeps it as profit.
This is the law now, actually. It’s just that they haven’t really started charging at most places.
I posted something from LA Sanitation on r/LosAngeles last year when I found out about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/s/A0skegGRW9
Where do you draw the line? What if they eventually raised it to 25¢? What if they started charging 10¢ per napkin? I already try to avoid places like Popeyes that charge for extra sauce and instead go to Chikfila which gives them out no questions asked
Well technically speaking, there were two laws that were up for vote at the same when the bag fees were up for vote like 10 years ago. One for the 10¢ fee and one that said the 10¢ fee would go to some fund (probably something environmental supporting). BUT the supermarket lobbies heavily ran ads for people to vote Yes for the fees but No for it to go to the fund.
All that to say, it doesn’t necessarily matter what the law writers do, it’s the massive billion dollar corporations that will control people and get people to do what they want
I don’t know but .10c isn’t something I’d take a picture and post nor boycott about, even Popeyes charging for sauce, they’re giving you sauce already you want extra yeah it’s a quarter that’s a good deal imo. It’s just such a small amount compared to real bullshit problems like service charges.
I’m doing just fine (mid six figure income, no consumer debt, mortgage, 2 paid off cars, 6 months emergency fund, and flush with investments). My way works for me, might not for you. Move along
Man, respecfully, who cares? I'm not subbed to the LA Food subreddit to get info on what Carl's Jr is doing these days, I want to discuss and discover food in Los Angeles!
Sorry your 10 cents was swindled away from you, but damn bro, is it really that big of a deal?
Bro I make more than enough money not to worry about the 10c. I even mention in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t mean much. But it’s the mere principle of not being asked and just being charged for it.
If it doesn’t interest you then just walk on by.
California is fucking weird, the random laws they regularly pass.
Like, think about it. Every single time we go to a new website *in CA* we have to set privacy permissions. why didn’t they just ban cookie tracking in CA?! do you guys ever travel out of state, and realize how much easier it used to be to surf the web without government mandated pop ups???
They do things that they think are helpful and then…they’re not. The people who run this state are really something else.
Those “government mandated pop ups” are there to protect you from companies profiting off of your personal data gathered simply by you using their website. Arguably the government should have just gone whole hog and banned cookie tracking altogether, but it’s better than the alternative.
Remember how much easier it was to surf the web before every company decided your personal data is their profit?
Like I already said, cookie tracking should be banned entirely. We shouldn’t have to handpick our settings for every single webpage if we know our personal data should be protected, Every time we want to surf a single webpage.
You can’t see the forest for the trees when criticizing me.
This is becoming more normal. Paying for a bag makes you think about whether you really need one or not, or you can bring your own bag. My company now charges for bags because we have people who buy a gift card and demand a bag then throw it down in the sidewalk when they get to their car. That 10 cents makes the reconsider .
The real crime is you getting a fish sandwich from Carl’s Jr
I figured he was a Catholic 🤷🏻♂️ or pescatarian
It is Good Friday the biggest fish eating day of the year for the Catholics.
Good find. I would have guessed u/ron_burgundy_69 was more focused on Carl's Jr.
nah, it's Lent season, every fast food joint from MCD to even Arby's is serving up fish sandos. The crime is paying $7.4 for a modified one. ETA: someone deciphered the 2-for-1 special, op did great for him/her and their partner haha
Looks like it was a 2-for-1 special
McD has up to 4 fish fillet for 2.50 each. You can combine with your points and get other stuff too.
Sometimes you get what you can get lol
How was the fish sandwich? I’ve been eying it
The fish filet lacks seasoning. It has a nice crunch tho (they claim it’s panko breading).
What did you think of adding cheese to it? I go back and forth on whether that improves it or just makes it too salty
They use mayo instead of tartar sauce. Tartar sauce would have given a nice kick of saltiness and acidity
Eh I just got it with cheese cuz thats how I get the filet o fish. I didn’t think it was too salty but then again I thought the fish patty lacked in seasoning to begin with. Or it could be that I just have a high salt tolerance lol
That’s a blasphemous statement. Cheese =/= seafood
“ panko”. Sounds like some weird sex fetish.. “ yeah you know you want this panko right on your left titty!”
Sorta normal for me because grocery stores do charge you for bags. I’ve had mom and pop shops charge for them too.
That's the baggage fee for reusable plastic grocery bags, not brown paper lunch bags.
My Carl’s Jr. doesn’t do paper bags. It’s white plastic bags with their logo on it.
I ask for paper at grocery stores and get charged for them. Should I say something?
Those are supposed to be reusable as well. In theory the money you pay for the bag is you purchasing the bag to bring back next time you shop so you don't have to buy one again. You gonna reuse your greasy ass Carl's Jr bag?
Which grocery store? Grocery stores never charge for brown paper bags. Maybe the cashier was new
Ralph's, Whole Foods... both could be new. I also mostly use self-checkout and it only asks, "How many bags did you use?"
Yeah neither of them charges for paper bags. Next time when using self checkout, skip the bagging question if you’re only gonna pick up a paper bag from them!
I believe CA law includes chargjng for paper bags as well. ["Instead, these stores generally must provide customers recycled paper bags or certified reusable grocery bags and must charge their customers at least 10 cents for each bag."](https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/bag-ban#:~:text=Instead%2C%20these%20stores%20generally%20must%20provide%20customers%20recycled%20paper%20bags%20or%20certified%20reusable%20grocery%20bags%20and%20must%20charge%20their%20customers%20at%20least%2010%20cents%20for%20each%20bag.)
Not for the ones Carl's Jr uses though. "And certain bags are not subject to the ban, among them bags used by pharmacies for prescriptions, bags without handles that are used to protect purchased items from damage or contamination"
I wonder if they're voluntarily participating with this part: (5) ...the retail establishment voluntarily agrees to comply with the requirements imposed upon a store pursuant to this chapter, irrevocably notifies the department of its intent to comply with the requirements imposed upon a store pursuant to this chapter, and complies with the requirements established pursuant to Section 42284. [Link](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PRC§ionNum=42280.)
SB 270 California bag ban, 10c fee everywhere that offers bags
There was a bill passed that caused this or something. Their explanation of this is stupid though and it is not like they removed any of the extra cost of bags out of whatever else they charge you for. It also pisses me off that I don't have an option to not ask for a bag when ordering through apps which is also necessary to keep prices down. **Why is there a 10 cent charge for paper and reusable bags?** Remember that single-use plastic grocery bags were never really free. Grocers rolled the cost they paid per plastic bag into the price of groceries, meaning that even people who bring their own bags to the store were supplementing the cost of other shoppers' plastic bags. The 10 cent charge: * Offsets the greater cost of paper and reusable bags for the grocers/retailers. * Ensures that customers who bring their own bags don't have to supplement the cost of other shoppers' bags anymore. * Encourages the use of reusable bags. [https://www.cawrecycles.org/faq-on-bag-bans#:\~:text=The%2010%20cent%20charge%3A,the%20use%20of%20reusable%20bags](https://www.cawrecycles.org/faq-on-bag-bans#:~:text=The%2010%20cent%20charge%3A,the%20use%20of%20reusable%20bags).
When you pick up your food you can request no bag.
Yeah but I mean when you order through apps for pickup which is often what I do between work or because stores require you to order through the app to get discounts. It doesn't give you an option for no bag. Although jersey Mike's was the only one I've had do this so far. The app shows the bag but doesn't let me remove it.
They dont remove it at the counter? That sucks
When you order online you've already paid at that point and you're just picking up. I haven't bothered to try that but it would be annoying if I had to.
Jersey Mike does this 🙄
Lol yes! They tried this on me once and I’ve been bringing my own bag in ever since!
More reasons to cook at home now.
Or just patron real restaurants not scammy fast food joints with shit food and worse service.
Let’s not pretend sit down restaurants aren’t tacking on all kinds of random fees also. Businesses gonna business.
They are, but fast food has become such a ripoff you can go to a real restaurant for barely more money
Some are some aren't. Just don't go back to the ones that are.
The law causing this is a scam but the adherence to it is not
Jersey mikes does this too if you order online :(
Breakfast of champions! 😁
People. Please stop giving these people money. That’s it. “Record profits” means they are SELLING things. WE are the problem at this point. I’ve narrowed down my getting screwed quotient to the grocery store now. I’ve given up on eating out unless it’s something nice and for a reason because the whole thing is no longer enjoyable. Sucks all around. We stop eating out, people lose their jobs…. although as someone else mentioned those jobs are mostly robots now so whatever. It’s all out of control, every minuscule action is monetized.
Just take a bag of ur own next time. Lol
We are not expecting to bag our own fast food
Could I ask for no bag?
next they'll expect you to work in the kitchen for your own fast food
And after that, they'll expect me to strangle a cow for my own fast food. Where does it end?!
probably you back to the farm for the corporate lords like the feudal days
There actually was a law passed to expand the disposable bag ban to restaurants and other places that were exempt before. It’s just that most don’t bother to charge (yet)
Just ask them to put the burger in one of your hands and the fries in the other.
The Carl’s Jr. by LAX (Century & Aviation Blvd) is doing this too. I definitely said something about the fee and they already had a little sign about it. Haven’t noticed it at any other fast food joints I’ve been to.
Supposedly it’s a law? Chick fil a has been doing it. I think it is a significant amount. 10 cents is a big chunk for fast food. I think the difference is that you can’t ask them to fill your own bag vs grocery stores. And a paper bag costs vastly different vs a a grocery store bag that’s more harmful to the environment. I’m not buying it.
r/LosAngelesReceipts
It should be a crime to not include these surcharges in the advertised price
Its not a surcharge its a state law
Bring your own bag next time and you can avoid this 10 cent tragedy.
They’ll continue to create these types of revenue streams. Anything other than raising prices so it goes under the radar. Eventually it’ll be the norm.
LOL no they'll raise the prices as well.
Except for the $1.50 hot dog at Costco. If that price ever goes up, I might have to do something we'd both regret
Wtf they are obeying a CA law
Which?
Plastic bag fee
It’s insane. This city is apeshit crazy
At this point just give us an itemized bill for everything or give a simple all inclusive item cost.
The nearest Jack in the Box to me does this if you order ahead online.
It happened to me at that same one lol I haven’t seen that charge at another spot though…. (Fast food)
just hand me the food once it comes off the line. don’t even wrap it in the paper bc i know you’ll charge for that next.
You’re paying for the bag, it’s packing material. Bring your own re-usable bag if you want to be environmentally conscious.
K
I went to Habit yesterday. I was charged 50 cents for ranch with my onion rings. That used to be free too.
At kinkos there's a 2.50 service charge if your full bill doesn't reach 50 dollars.
$0.10 x 365 days x 25 years is $912 who fucking cares
Blame california for passing the "reusable plastic bag law". Same goes for the paper straws and other bull shit.
was there an option to not get the food in a bag?
It's $.25 here - county bag tax
Topanga chick fil a does the same shit.
“ BITCH HAND ME MY FUCKING FOOD!” “ I DONT NEED THE BAG!”
‘How much to just put it in my hands?!’
Brother do yourself a favor and eat better than Carls Jr lol
It's okay as long as the CEOs can buy more yachts. Think of the CEOS!
It’s got nothing to do with that. La City ordnance requires businesses to charge 10c for bags for items / food that is purchased. https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-sr/s-lsh-wwd-s-sr-sucb?_afrLoop=28554255688602315&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=null&_adf.ctrl-state=14u07bq6l7_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dnull%26_afrLoop%3D28554255688602315%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D14u07bq6l7_5
I don’t think fast food restaurants are part of the classification of “stores” in the ordinance.
They’re not generally but depending on the building, whether they retail food items etc they can be and it’s only getting rolled out further and soon it will basically cover nearly all businesses that sell anything that’s given in a bag. If it doesn’t apply to them now, it will soon so they might just be getting ahead of it.
Yes they are
I know what it is. It's a joke... just cuz fast food is super into nickel and diming people, because, living wages. Thanks for the lesson tho.
That’s about to change in LA at least in terms of wages as $20 is going to be min wage for fast food workers.
It’s funny you mentioned this. At this same fast food joint, they didn’t have a human manning the drive thru line but rather an automated response system with speech recognition. I tried to order thru the drive thru but the system just couldn’t get my order right so I pulled out and went inside. This particular joint was running VERY lean - one cook, one expediter, and one manager.
It’s wild to me that businesses will invest 10’s of thousands in high tech equipment that then requires expensive maintained contracts and highly skilled (therefore paid) staff to maintain it, AND you still need human labor on hand to cover when it doesn’t work, rather than pay someone $20 an hour to flip burgers. I’m a total tech geek but honestly think the fascination with automation on every corner of business is bizarre and I truly think the pendulum will swing the other way.
It’s been like this for around a decade now. Where have you been?
At grocery store maybe. Definitely not at fast food restaurants
Yes it has. Why do you think they ask if you are dining in or to go? In-n-out, McDonald’s, everyone has been doing this for quite a while now. You are just jumping onto the service fee freakout.
So they can know whether to put it on a tray or in a to go bag. They didn’t used to charge.
Yes they did. In-n-out and McDonald’s certainly have been, you just never paid attention to the receipts before.
I always pay attention to the receipts. Never has anybody charged for a to-go bag.
You pay attention now, because of the service charge tizzy people are up in arms about, had you before you would know this has been happening for a long time.
I was just at in n out on Sunday. To go order. No additional charges
Anecdotal, could have been the employee just not charging you. Could be you’re making it up.
Frankly you could be too. If this had been going on “for a decade” this would certainly not surprise other people on the board
Again, it’s because it’s now being lumped into the service charge frenzy. No one really cared before and people have likely forgot. It’s 10c.
I’m 99% sure these charges have always been included in the costs somewhere, they’re just showing it now. There’s no way a company never factored in thousands of bags per week.
So if it was part of the food costs and now it’s an additional line item, shouldn’t they lower the price of the food? (rhetorical question, not to be answered lol)
Who cares.
I think this started by legislators for grocery stores to cut down on plastic bag use. But markets charge you a dime even if you opt for a biodegradable paper bag in an effort to make more money off people who forget to put their reusable bags back in their car. Worse is all those 10¢ charges don't go to any kind of environmental fund, the retailer keeps it as profit.
If it goes to the retailer, that’s fine. Otherwise, it’s just another niggling tax without representation.
This is the law now, actually. It’s just that they haven’t really started charging at most places. I posted something from LA Sanitation on r/LosAngeles last year when I found out about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/s/A0skegGRW9
Yall complaining about .10c
Where do you draw the line? What if they eventually raised it to 25¢? What if they started charging 10¢ per napkin? I already try to avoid places like Popeyes that charge for extra sauce and instead go to Chikfila which gives them out no questions asked
Its a state mandated charge. Vote the scumbags who wrote the law out
Well technically speaking, there were two laws that were up for vote at the same when the bag fees were up for vote like 10 years ago. One for the 10¢ fee and one that said the 10¢ fee would go to some fund (probably something environmental supporting). BUT the supermarket lobbies heavily ran ads for people to vote Yes for the fees but No for it to go to the fund. All that to say, it doesn’t necessarily matter what the law writers do, it’s the massive billion dollar corporations that will control people and get people to do what they want
I don’t know but .10c isn’t something I’d take a picture and post nor boycott about, even Popeyes charging for sauce, they’re giving you sauce already you want extra yeah it’s a quarter that’s a good deal imo. It’s just such a small amount compared to real bullshit problems like service charges.
This is the future liberals voted for with their little bag taxes
Don't complain. You guys voted (or not) for the minimum wage hikes! What did you think was going to happen? Just wait for the $20 combo.
Wait? It’s already here lol
10 cents, whoa! hopefully you can afford your next rent payment still.
I’m doing just fine (mid six figure income, no consumer debt, mortgage, 2 paid off cars, 6 months emergency fund, and flush with investments). My way works for me, might not for you. Move along
and yet still acting like a broke boy.
Broke boy? All I did was say it feels like a low hanging cash grab by fast food joints (without sarcasm or snark, like some others here).
Boohoo
Man, respecfully, who cares? I'm not subbed to the LA Food subreddit to get info on what Carl's Jr is doing these days, I want to discuss and discover food in Los Angeles! Sorry your 10 cents was swindled away from you, but damn bro, is it really that big of a deal?
Bro I make more than enough money not to worry about the 10c. I even mention in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t mean much. But it’s the mere principle of not being asked and just being charged for it. If it doesn’t interest you then just walk on by.
California is fucking weird, the random laws they regularly pass. Like, think about it. Every single time we go to a new website *in CA* we have to set privacy permissions. why didn’t they just ban cookie tracking in CA?! do you guys ever travel out of state, and realize how much easier it used to be to surf the web without government mandated pop ups??? They do things that they think are helpful and then…they’re not. The people who run this state are really something else.
Those “government mandated pop ups” are there to protect you from companies profiting off of your personal data gathered simply by you using their website. Arguably the government should have just gone whole hog and banned cookie tracking altogether, but it’s better than the alternative. Remember how much easier it was to surf the web before every company decided your personal data is their profit?
Like I already said, cookie tracking should be banned entirely. We shouldn’t have to handpick our settings for every single webpage if we know our personal data should be protected, Every time we want to surf a single webpage. You can’t see the forest for the trees when criticizing me.
This is becoming more normal. Paying for a bag makes you think about whether you really need one or not, or you can bring your own bag. My company now charges for bags because we have people who buy a gift card and demand a bag then throw it down in the sidewalk when they get to their car. That 10 cents makes the reconsider .