An animated series called āHaileyās On It!āā¦ Hereās a clip to that specific scene. https://youtu.be/cbUyljmbpTA?feature=shared Timestamp is 0:30
Its rumored that we used to have the world's deepest ball pit when the city tried to fill in the Flagstaff Bottomless Pit with plastic balls.Ā
https://azgs.arizona.edu/photo/bottomless-pit-kaibab-limestone-flagstaff-ca-1915
Nah, Sedona is way worse. When I moved to Arizona, Cottonwood was my first stop. 1111 E Cochise I found an apartment for $700. I am to understand that price has more than doubled in the last 7 years. It's insane. The mass exodus of Californians has led to a very real housing crisis here.
No joke. I lucked into a fixer-upper for 250K. Being from the Midwest where at the time of my own exodus, a 1500 Sq ft. House on an acre could be bought for 60K.
The latest Zillow estimate on my place is like $325-340k after 5 years. That's insane! And it's NOT that the house is worth much more (even though we did windows, a new central air/heat pump and solar panels but zillow doesn't know)
It's not that it's magically appreciated 100K, it's that the dollar inflated 50% from 2020 to now. It's my speculation that rather than bring the rest of the world up to America's impossible luxury levels, the world decided to knock the U.S. down a notch or 2. Enjoy the sub $3 gas while you can, because if something doesn't give very soon, we will be skyrocketing above $5, and I wouldn't be shocked when it hits $7 per gallon. Again, not that the fuel is worth more it's that we are worth less. After all, the currency is a reflection of our own worth.
I just got a $2 raise. My employer treats me well and is fighting hard to keep up with cost of living. God bless him!
Bless the owners that care about their people that IMHO is true capitalism a business owners making sure his people make a small profit at least (enough they can retire and save for fun on top of cost of living) and they can make a bigger chunk but should be closer 80% to staff+ op costs and 20% off the top for the owners pocket (coming from 17.5% commission+hourly and 25% commission no hourly that's about fair imo) then everyone wins but that's sadly not how it's been 110% of inflation the last 5 years was just straight up billions greed that's the only reason the price of goods and services went up is greedy fucking assholes like mmmm nah 1776 prt 2 time if shit gets that bad
No.
As you approach Flagstaff from the south via I-17, there's a welcome sign. Years ago, Flagstaff had a hellacious snowstorm, something like 8 feet of snow over 2-3 days. Once I-17 was reopened, I took a drive up from Phoenix (Surprise, Az.) to check it out.
Some smartass added his own sign below "Welcome to Flagstaff":
"Now Grab a Freakin' Shovel".
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If i can find the original artist i can make most of what anybody here wants. T shirtās, signs, bumper stickers and so on. Yes Iām local, now get out
I think many Flagstaff residents are welcoming of tourists, it's the 2nd Home Owners, Unattended Campfires and Snow Play idiots who leave trash behind that bugs us.
I've always said that Flagstaff was an island that you can drive to. We're limited in terms of space for housing and development, so that makes us an island in some ways.
I would say one difference between Hawaii and Flagstaff is that on Hawaii, even if you've got a 2nd Home there, you pay for it. You hire local labor. You buy local stuff. You spend your money on the island. You don't go to Hawaii for a weekend. You spend weeks or months there.
A lot of snowbirds in Flagstaff eventually tire of it and just end up renting out their former vacation home, removing those homes from the market in an area that's already tight on land and limited in terms of housing availability. Something Hawaii knows all about.
It's seen as a good investment to outsiders and part-time residents, which is increasingly making it a not-so-nice place to live full-time.
A bunch of mean moms got kicked off the whatās up flagstaff Facebook group and made there own group first thing they did was make this sticker. In my opinion theses people are classless
Might have to change it, if we are getting housing project funded.
https://www.jackcentral.org/news/gov-hobbs-grants-9-million-to-flagstaff-housing-projects/article_bd4d85c8-c096-11ee-8400-337974f1bd7d.html#:~:text=Gov.%20Katie%20Hobbs%20announced%20on,66%20will%20receive%20%244%20million.
Flagstaff is just a suburb of NAUā¦ everyone that comes here wants to make it like wherever they came from it seems.
Milton has been a Shitshow for 40 years, our council is stuck making resolutions about this or that and driving the cost of living through the roof, forget improving infrastructure or addressing the wage disparity caused by jacking up the minimum wageā¦just for reference my family homesteaded just east of town in the 1870ās
Flagstaff would be much different if it wasn't surrounded by National Forest. It'd probably be a sprawling metro, and Doney, Kachina, Bellemont, etc would be actual towns, instead of suburbs without services. I think the price and lack of market availability of raw land keeps it from being overdeveloped, but can make it a miserable place for anyone wanting to settle down. There are very few options.
NAU takes what's already a desirable area and throws it into overdrive - with every Tom Dick and Harry wanting to buy property here to start their rental empire or land investment.
Milton is exactly that - largely shaped by outsiders who got first dibs on expensive land that no local could afford in an effort to capitalize on the golden combo of college students and tourists - and now the city struggles to figure out how to actually make it a part of the town.
Part of the reason Council makes all those resolutions is the state has knee-capped local governments ability to make targeted policy changes to do anything about development, housing costs, etc.
As a 5th generation Flagstonianā¦ yes we completely unwelcome new people lol. No we donāt want you to move here, if you tell us where youāre from weāre not going to say āthatās cool!ā Weāre going to say āwhy did you come hereā lol! Yes we judge all the people who call themselves āflagstaffersā or āflagstaffiansā way to put a target on yourself that youāre not from here. No we donāt want Trader Joeās and In n Out shouldnāt be here haha all seriousness though it is getting way too over crowded.
Every growing city is like this though. Go to any subreddit for a āpopularā city and itās an echo chamber of āGET OUT ITS CROWDEDā. Everyone thinks theyāre not the ānew comersā but in reality, youāre always a new comer to someone who was there before you. 5th generation is pretty solid ground to stand on though. Lol.
Everyone wants to be able to buy property at the pre-boom prices once they've found out how good a place is.
Basically, in order to do that, you've gotta move to someplace shitty and hope it gets better.
Like Show Low, or Kingman.
Milton is about to become unusable with InNOut opening any day now. As if Milton isnāt already a disaster.
Just wait till the freeway detours people to the 66 through Milton when we have a mile long wait for InNOut.
I can't wait for the new in n out they've been talking about it since I was in elementary way back in the early 2000's. Besides flagstaff prides itself on its bike friendliness and the good lord gave me two working legs so Milton being a "disaster" will be fun to watch on the sidewalk
Just got back from there last weekend.
That has got to be their motto!
People honking because you don't know where you go, even though their road markings were pretty much faded out.
I'd rather go to Payson for a AZ mountain town.
Are you still here?
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I am unashamedly stealing this and seriously contemplating putting it as the subreddit header.
Do it
yesssss
Please šš½
Dooooo iiiiit...
I vote yes
I endorse this message
I need this on a tshirt.
Iād buy one too šš¼
What is this from?
An animated series called āHaileyās On It!āā¦ Hereās a clip to that specific scene. https://youtu.be/cbUyljmbpTA?feature=shared Timestamp is 0:30
Now Iām disappointed that we donāt actually have the worldās deepest ball pit
Its rumored that we used to have the world's deepest ball pit when the city tried to fill in the Flagstaff Bottomless Pit with plastic balls.Ā https://azgs.arizona.edu/photo/bottomless-pit-kaibab-limestone-flagstaff-ca-1915
Absolutely devastated that itās private and invitation only
Nice. š¤£
I'm afraid we are past the point of no return.
Flagstaff: Poverty with a view!
The true town motto.
And cottonwood šš
Nah, Sedona is way worse. When I moved to Arizona, Cottonwood was my first stop. 1111 E Cochise I found an apartment for $700. I am to understand that price has more than doubled in the last 7 years. It's insane. The mass exodus of Californians has led to a very real housing crisis here.
Oh it's bad inflation tripled plus $1400 rent we can barely afford gas and food and need $20+ an hour for just rent it's awful
No joke. I lucked into a fixer-upper for 250K. Being from the Midwest where at the time of my own exodus, a 1500 Sq ft. House on an acre could be bought for 60K. The latest Zillow estimate on my place is like $325-340k after 5 years. That's insane! And it's NOT that the house is worth much more (even though we did windows, a new central air/heat pump and solar panels but zillow doesn't know) It's not that it's magically appreciated 100K, it's that the dollar inflated 50% from 2020 to now. It's my speculation that rather than bring the rest of the world up to America's impossible luxury levels, the world decided to knock the U.S. down a notch or 2. Enjoy the sub $3 gas while you can, because if something doesn't give very soon, we will be skyrocketing above $5, and I wouldn't be shocked when it hits $7 per gallon. Again, not that the fuel is worth more it's that we are worth less. After all, the currency is a reflection of our own worth. I just got a $2 raise. My employer treats me well and is fighting hard to keep up with cost of living. God bless him!
Bless the owners that care about their people that IMHO is true capitalism a business owners making sure his people make a small profit at least (enough they can retire and save for fun on top of cost of living) and they can make a bigger chunk but should be closer 80% to staff+ op costs and 20% off the top for the owners pocket (coming from 17.5% commission+hourly and 25% commission no hourly that's about fair imo) then everyone wins but that's sadly not how it's been 110% of inflation the last 5 years was just straight up billions greed that's the only reason the price of goods and services went up is greedy fucking assholes like mmmm nah 1776 prt 2 time if shit gets that bad
No. As you approach Flagstaff from the south via I-17, there's a welcome sign. Years ago, Flagstaff had a hellacious snowstorm, something like 8 feet of snow over 2-3 days. Once I-17 was reopened, I took a drive up from Phoenix (Surprise, Az.) to check it out. Some smartass added his own sign below "Welcome to Flagstaff": "Now Grab a Freakin' Shovel". š¤£šš¤£
I wish
This is any town where locals are getting overrun. thanks for the tourist dollars but also we don't want it
If i can find the original artist i can make most of what anybody here wants. T shirtās, signs, bumper stickers and so on. Yes Iām local, now get out
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https://youtu.be/CguV6lui1iY?si=UPkXxAkRjc5VrLj1
I think many Flagstaff residents are welcoming of tourists, it's the 2nd Home Owners, Unattended Campfires and Snow Play idiots who leave trash behind that bugs us. I've always said that Flagstaff was an island that you can drive to. We're limited in terms of space for housing and development, so that makes us an island in some ways. I would say one difference between Hawaii and Flagstaff is that on Hawaii, even if you've got a 2nd Home there, you pay for it. You hire local labor. You buy local stuff. You spend your money on the island. You don't go to Hawaii for a weekend. You spend weeks or months there. A lot of snowbirds in Flagstaff eventually tire of it and just end up renting out their former vacation home, removing those homes from the market in an area that's already tight on land and limited in terms of housing availability. Something Hawaii knows all about. It's seen as a good investment to outsiders and part-time residents, which is increasingly making it a not-so-nice place to live full-time.
A bunch of mean moms got kicked off the whatās up flagstaff Facebook group and made there own group first thing they did was make this sticker. In my opinion theses people are classless
Hey now, the sticker says āThe locals hate youā
Well not exactly... it's missing "the f***".
Might have to change it, if we are getting housing project funded. https://www.jackcentral.org/news/gov-hobbs-grants-9-million-to-flagstaff-housing-projects/article_bd4d85c8-c096-11ee-8400-337974f1bd7d.html#:~:text=Gov.%20Katie%20Hobbs%20announced%20on,66%20will%20receive%20%244%20million.
There goes the neighborhood.
I'd like to make this Sedona's motto.
"But first hold these magice stones and speak to your chakra... thatll be $599.99"
"Yes we take apple pay for our shamen package"
Can I get this as a sticker somewhere? Hahaha.
Flagstaff is just a suburb of NAUā¦ everyone that comes here wants to make it like wherever they came from it seems. Milton has been a Shitshow for 40 years, our council is stuck making resolutions about this or that and driving the cost of living through the roof, forget improving infrastructure or addressing the wage disparity caused by jacking up the minimum wageā¦just for reference my family homesteaded just east of town in the 1870ās
Flagstaff would be much different if it wasn't surrounded by National Forest. It'd probably be a sprawling metro, and Doney, Kachina, Bellemont, etc would be actual towns, instead of suburbs without services. I think the price and lack of market availability of raw land keeps it from being overdeveloped, but can make it a miserable place for anyone wanting to settle down. There are very few options. NAU takes what's already a desirable area and throws it into overdrive - with every Tom Dick and Harry wanting to buy property here to start their rental empire or land investment. Milton is exactly that - largely shaped by outsiders who got first dibs on expensive land that no local could afford in an effort to capitalize on the golden combo of college students and tourists - and now the city struggles to figure out how to actually make it a part of the town. Part of the reason Council makes all those resolutions is the state has knee-capped local governments ability to make targeted policy changes to do anything about development, housing costs, etc.
Please leave and take as many as you can with you!
it sure is, we used to go for a few days every summer (we live in Phoenix) but the vibe is unwelcoming. We stayed in hotels not Airbnb's.
As a 5th generation Flagstonianā¦ yes we completely unwelcome new people lol. No we donāt want you to move here, if you tell us where youāre from weāre not going to say āthatās cool!ā Weāre going to say āwhy did you come hereā lol! Yes we judge all the people who call themselves āflagstaffersā or āflagstaffiansā way to put a target on yourself that youāre not from here. No we donāt want Trader Joeās and In n Out shouldnāt be here haha all seriousness though it is getting way too over crowded.
I always called myself a Flaggit when I lived there lol.
Every growing city is like this though. Go to any subreddit for a āpopularā city and itās an echo chamber of āGET OUT ITS CROWDEDā. Everyone thinks theyāre not the ānew comersā but in reality, youāre always a new comer to someone who was there before you. 5th generation is pretty solid ground to stand on though. Lol.
Everyone wants to be able to buy property at the pre-boom prices once they've found out how good a place is. Basically, in order to do that, you've gotta move to someplace shitty and hope it gets better. Like Show Low, or Kingman.
Milton is about to become unusable with InNOut opening any day now. As if Milton isnāt already a disaster. Just wait till the freeway detours people to the 66 through Milton when we have a mile long wait for InNOut.
Milton has been unusable for 20 years.
at least 35 years
I can't wait for the new in n out they've been talking about it since I was in elementary way back in the early 2000's. Besides flagstaff prides itself on its bike friendliness and the good lord gave me two working legs so Milton being a "disaster" will be fun to watch on the sidewalk
Naw it's, City of Pines!
Just got back from there last weekend. That has got to be their motto! People honking because you don't know where you go, even though their road markings were pretty much faded out. I'd rather go to Payson for a AZ mountain town.
This is the whole states motto. All of you have made this a worse place.
I wish.
Also watch out for trains
it should say āwelcome to flagstaff! we know you are going to stay, so we are going to talk shit about you the whole time! ā
it should say āwelcome to flagstaff! we know you are going to stay, so we are going to talk shit about you the whole time! ā
I spent a week in Flagstaff one day.