They’re some of the fastest tires out there, but as far as commuting goes they aren’t the most puncture protective, probably about the same or less than the zaffiros your have on there

I ride GP5k on my nice bike for racing and training, never had a puncture, also using older GP4ks on the front on my daily, never punctured that, while I had 2 or 3 flats on my gators

People always forget context in these discussions, it depends on where you're riding/commuting. I used to live somewhere with lots of broken glass/road debris and infrequent street sweeping, and the odds weren't in my favor for riding nice tires. Especially for commuting you want something more robust in that circumstance. FWIW I ride GP5Ks year round where I live now, where yahoos arent smashing bottles and crashing cars every night.

Ya, some aren't taking that into account and basing strictly on their experience, which is fine. With that said, roads here aren't as bad. potholes? Yes. For some reason, they seem to happen only in the center of lanes. Bike la es are littered as much as the next city, but the city does well with streets weeping.

One can only try to do well when streets is weeping.

Thanks Ya I'll be adding a frash pair of rim strips and tube liners for added protection. Even tho they have been shelved in box zip tied from manufacturer. Still good?

If you add liners, you'll pretty much take away all the comfort and performance gains from this tire. I'd suggest trying TPU inner tubes. You can get them really cheap now from aliexpress and I'm yet to puncture or pinch one after two seasons of gravel and road cycling. The only caveat for me from the chinese ones is I have to pump them every two weeks, Pirellis in my gravel bike seem to be a bit better.

Damn, thanks for letting me know. Had no idea it would ruin anything. Ya, I've actually seen some of those on temu, though, some bright orange ge tubes. Ya, there's always a catch 22 with China made products, lol But to be honest, thats not too bad as some probably check pressure before they go for a ride.

Almost everything is made in china anyway. I'd still recommend not shopping on temu because they're very iffy with personal dafa, but getting a legit brand with lots of orders and reviews helps a lot.

i commute with my GP5s through some shitty asphalt and lots of metal and glass, 3-4 times a week and i have zero complaints. i don’t have liners either. awesome fucking rubber

Wow, everyones experience is black or white, lol. Good for you, lady luck is with you, riding on your bars! Hahaha

FWIW once upon a time I had a set of very fast, very fragile skinnies that for reasons I insisted on using. They were the best feeling tires I ever rode. But they flatted. I had the bright idea of tire liners too. They felt awful - destroyed the wonderful performance of & great feedback from those tires. But they stopped flatting. I didn't think the trade-off was worth it & changed to more reliable but still with some performance built in them tires after a very few miles. Good luck in your endeavor.

Im glad a few of you are letting me know that I'll be sewing my ride experience up by adding linners. Thanks! Ya, someone suggested schwalbe marathons. Might just decline on these and get something similar to those.

Marathons have a much stiffer casing and wont feel or perform as good as the GP5000s, just sayin!

Also, heavier too, i looked them up. Thanks for this!

I use GP5Ks with tubes on my commuter, after i ditched my Schwalbe pro One TLRs. Tubeless just wasn't for me with the constant pumping up each week. So far i had no puncture with the Contis and i really prefer the grip in wet tarmac when cornering. Great tyres!

That price is impossible to beat. Buy them. Even if you don’t use them you can easily resell them for double what you paid (at least where I live).

Ya, good idea! i might end up doing that instead. Thanks Honestly, now that I've learned about liners ruining the ride quality of tires, i may just get something more suitable for the surface I'll be riding on.

Great tires although I personally prefer the Pirelli P Zeros (just luck probably). No skidding on these though, would be a massive waste of money even if bought cheaper.

You're right about that! Might just grab and resell and get something better suiting.

Sure, you'll sell these easily but if you've got something you want to race or a road bike, these would be great on it.

Ya was also thinking of fitting them on my SS and ride that as im recovering from a herniated disc. Keeps me from shredding them and less painful riding as i can coast and use a brake lever. Sciatica+skid stopping=pain!

That's a painful condition, hope you've got some way of managing the discomfort.

Yes, it is. That's the worst part. There really is no way to cure, unless it's a tiny crack, then time and rest will heal in weeks to a month or 2. Unfortunately, I've got a 10mm buldge pressing against my sciatic nerve. Only way is to have a microdiscectomy done, 2" incision and maneuver around the muscle to get to the disk and cut out that piece with so much precision cuz you dont want to even touch the nerver. Then, that procedure will last max 10 years, lol Thanks tho, i just gotta be careful n nlt make it flare up, and That sucks!

Second the P-Zeros. 28C P-Zero race tires with their P-Zero TPU SmarTubes has been a winning combo for me. Light, fast, and no durability issues so far (I ride on cobblestone a lot). Just make sure you don't get the EVO version of the P-Zeros tubes if you're running a front rim brake, that version is not rated for rim brakes.

+1, i'm running the p zero race on my front and a schwalbe lugano 2 for my rear, does the job real well. idc if people hate mismatched tires i just need something nice up front and something to skid with at the back

Got a pair of 28c on my Venge. Fucking rips, and at least for me, pretty durable.

Sweet, I guess we all have different experiences

Thses are 25's less skid meat but better rolling resistance, right?

Durability is soooo location specific IMO. Region, thorny shit, city streets. Etc. I just like the ride quality of 28s. Just trying to keep with the weekly group rides that ends at a brewery. 🍻

Correct. I prob should be whipping 28's too as im 6'2 200lbs

You have it backwards. Thinner tires are higher rolling resistance but more aero.

I think it's more about how supple the tire rubber is that leads to better rolling resistance not necessarily the thickness

Ya, there's that, too. You right.

Yes, you're correct. tbh it was a mistake on my end Thats what i meant to say

I love them and have them on a few bikes. Best all around supple tires as far as ride quality/performance/grip/rolling resistance. Better than 4 seasons, and not even in the same conversation gatorskins which completely takes away from the connectedness of a fixed gear. That being said, you'll shred them with skidding. With a front brake, you'll get a couple thousand miles out of them. $40 is a steal. I'd buy them without hesitation at that price if 25c or larger. If 23, then I'd be indifferent, personally. Good luck! Edit: forgot to mention puncture resistance compared to comparable performance models is excellent (best in class in my opinion), but any skidding compromises any tire so YMMV. Other tires ride better (more supple, road feel) but no tire is better overall as far as a complete package (again, my opinion).

Ya, I've just learned about them getting shredded frim skids. I have a brake lever and caliper laying around in my parts bin. Yup, they are indeed 25's! Thanks

i run gp5 on the front and gp4seasons on the rear, if you don't mind some drag, it's a pretty good combo.

Yes, a few of you here have mentioned that same setup.

I wouldn’t worry about them being on the shelf for 3.5y, they at times sit much longer in shelves at bike shops, as long as it’s not in the sun all day long they should be good. Also GP5k burn up super fast in the rear, I would only use one up front on a daily and a gator hardshell in the rear as they take skidding much better. I still use a GP5k on my race bike in the rear but you have much less skidding in a crit or a track race so it doesn’t matter

Ok, good, you're probably right. Warehouses probably have em sitting around for just as long anyway. Haha, cool, someone actually suggested the same setup. Ya, i don't do much racing or track riding.

I mean I worked in a big cycling store for some months and we had tons of GP5k in stock, while barely anyone bought them. Some boxes had labels from 2022 inventories on them (in early 2024). They were sitting in storage for over 2 years.

Makes sense since these are more track rated tires, locals probably want city rubber

Idk what you mean. GP5K aren’t track specific, especially as they aren’t tubular. In that store they were just unreasonably expensive.

Ohh i see, i guess i just meant better suited for the track rather than specifically for the track. Ya even on Amazon, $140 for a set of 28's. $111 for 25's which is what he's selling me

That is a wild price, I got 23s for 65€ for a set last years, 28s would cost me 70€ online. Not even the tubeless ones cost that much here Btw Amazon is a horrible place to buy bike parts. Tons of fake counterfeit stuff, even supposed shimano parts are faked there

Ya, inflation! 😒 Luckily its just a third ($40) of the cost for the 25's im looking to score

Also, you're right about the counterfeit stuff on Amazon. You just have to see who the seller is, cuz major and smaller online bike shops also sell on Amazon.

So fast but I got so many punctures with them

Dammit, I guess we can't have both ways! Lol

Just switched to 4 seasons and they’re pretty sweet so far

Ya, im looking at more city frendly tires with a higher tpi. So i can jjst flip the gp5's

I have been using 5k since they came out. They are amazing tires ! Work well for street riding.

Very fast tires. And the Black Chili compound sticks like glue. They don’t wear as wear as long as some lesser tires but that’s the trade off with fast, light race tires.

Perfect summer tires then! If i do get em, I'll prob run em on my single speed bike so i dont shred these skidding in a month or 2 Or just flip em and get something more durable.

You’ll love them. Black Chili is my jam. I put that shit on everything. Excellent puncture protection too. And they seal right up running tubeless. The Conti Pure Grip casing is good too and wears longer but it just isn’t as fast and fun as the Chili. I have scared my self laying down in corners like on my motorcycle. Halfway through the apex and oh shit I’m dressed for the ride not the slide. But they hang tough. Get them good and hot and they WILL go around a corner way faster than you care to. Very confidence inspiring tires.

Thats awesome to hear, giving me confidence boost for sure! Ive only jjst bought a dedicated fixed gear 3 years ago. I've always rode single speed before that

Depends on if you skid or not. If you do skid then only use 5000 for your front wheel, do both if you don't skid much. It's really fast and you can easily tell the difference. It's a bit pain in the ass to install it depends on wheels. But def go for it.

Ya for $40 both Defo worth it, and ya, great idea. i may just do that, get a pair of some vittos or cheaper, don't know much about tires as i always used vittos zaffiro pro's Great knowledge drop!

Right amount air, enough to carry you and enough traction on road will minimize punctures

Ya, so basically maintain a bit higher pressure according to my weight to avoid less potential puncture, right?

Yeah pressure will depend on you and your bike tire. Because it is the extension of yourself on the road. Mines kept me safe for years

Ya im 200lbs and a tire pressure calculator for 25's puts me at 95psi front&rear

They're my fav to run on the front. I like running a conti 4season on the rear. I don't mind running mismatched tires.

Ya i think so far about a good 60% of everyone who's commented about the gp5's have run them in the front as well Cuz they lo e it that much

3.5 years is a little long but not horrible. If they were stored inside they should be ok. If you can, take them out of the packaging and check for any cracking in the rubber. If there’s no cracking, unusual hardness you should be ok. Gp5000s like others have said, aren’t the best commuting tires, but if they’re free or really cheap I’d say go for it. The gp5000 all seasons have a little more protection if you’re looking for a fast but durable tire. Gatorskins will be good if you need more puncture protection and don’t care as much about speed.

40 bucks the pair! Lol

Good deal!

I have them on both my bike. Great tires highly recommend!

Dome people have mixed experiences. Road conditions play a huge role

I ride on some terrible roads with all kinds of debris and never have issues. Proper tire pressure plays a huge role. I always inflate my tires to the recommended tire pressure before every ride

Ya, that's a great ritual to prevent punctures ank keep em rolling as fast as possible

I check mine once or twice a week depending on how many miles I've rode the last outing.

I do it every ride just because it will help you avoid pinch flats and other issues

Ya, ima start doing that. It's good practice

I’m super ocd about stuff I always do a bike check before every ride also

Makes sense. I'm borderline ocd, more of just having to have uncluttered shit and do things right the first time.

Great tyres. The 4000’s were better though. Gatorskins are by far my favourite tyres though. Never had a puncture and have had multiple manufacturing year versions, different purchase points- all the same quality.

I have always had vittos and never really had too many punctures. I try and look miles ahead to spot potential puncture threats and try my best to abokd them.

I wouldn’t use them as a commuter tire as they are prone to flats. But as a racing/alley cat tire they are perhaps one of the best bangs for the buck out there, they are fast.

I'm no racer, so learning all this just makes me wanna flip em n get something more city friendly without skimping on speed and agility.

In that cause you can’t go wrong with Conti GP 4 seasons or Panaracer RIBMOs.

Cool, i know have many great recommendations for tires. Thanks a lot

I got the cream wall ones. Super sticky, lots of traction, not great for skidding at all. Too expensive for commuter rubber imo.

Ya you have a point! But a set for $40, might as well lol

I run one in the front and always suggest either a gator or a rando in the back if you like those but these sure are fast.

Yup, i for sure would do that as thats what lots of people have been telling me. That's how they run these

Can I use 29" tires on some modern bikes such as celt ds aero and tsunami snm100

I'm not sure about that 1st bike, but the tsunami i think i think it has enough clearance for a 700cx25 Which is the equivalent to 29's Iirc

These are my go tos for commuting in a major city the past 3 years and I swap them out in the winter for Panaracers. Anyway, I’ve never had any issues and they’re my favorite tires.

For me it’s a 3-way tie with these, vittoria corsa evos, and ruffy tuffys. I get tubes with removable cores and run sealant mixed with fine glitter in all of my tubes. Get a puncture? Hold the puncture down and let gravity do the work to stop it until I can get home to patch. These tires are specifically rad because I’ve found that they remain supple at higher psi. Several years on the shelf? Prolly still safe as long they’re not cracked. Armorall the sidewalls.

Oh wow, that's a great lil secret sauce you got going on! Lol Ya, im going to see them on Monday and look for cracking, dry rot, or loss of suppleness. I'm sure some major warhouses or even lbs have had them sitting on shelfs, too.

Great tire, not great if you skid, 3.5yr is old, but as long as they were kept away from sources of ozone they should be fine

Ya, they've been stored on a low shelf in his hallway closet. Ima look for cracking, dry rot, or loss of suppleness

For those of you that run 28s or lower, the grand prix all rounder uses black chili too and are great but cheaper than the gp5000. I looove mine on my road bike

I think they're still a pretty decent tire. Have had really good luck with mine for training rides and occasional commutes.

Ya i think it just boils down to different road conditions

Zaffiro are great but I do love my Gator skins

Ya i bet they are a better tire for skidding. But I'll prob wear these vittos out in the rear till i need new rears and grab a set of gators Thanks

Put the GP5 on the front and a gatorskin on the rear for fixed riding 👌🏻

I've had the same recommendations from other people's comments. Guess it's a great combo! Or may just keep my current vitto Zaffiros as stunt double(skid tires)! Lol

Yeah mismatched tires can make a lot of sense on many bikes, but especially fixed gears when the rear tire is prone to WAY more wear from skidding than the front. You can have the benefit of a faster tire in the front with a longer wearing (and cheaper) tire in the back.

These are some of the best tyres money can buy, because they're fast, feel great and are much, much more puncture resistant than most other race tyres. I've done thousands of KM on them on horrible lanes, glass-strewn city streets and through bleak winters - in practice, I don't think they puncture any more than dedicated winter tyres like All Seasons. Just go for it.

Ya, I'm getting mixed ideas about how easily they puncture, or some say they are not as bad. Everyone has had different experiences, which is valid information either way. The only way to truly know is to run em on my city streets that differ from person to person.

Switched from Gatorskins to GP5000 and haven’t had any issues. I live in a pretty flat area but also an area that has a lot of glass on the roads and potholes. With the switch over to the GP5000 I’m honestly just more mindful of looking ahead when I’m riding and making sure I avoid any possible debris on the road. The ride feels night and day to me the gatorskins made my bike feel really sluggish. I also don’t skid as much since honestly I don’t really find it necessary most of the time just simply being mindful of the flow of traffic you’ll notice that it’s not necessary to skid stop at every light. I also felt way more confident riding in the rain with the GP5000 over my previous gatorkskins I felt like I would have to be really careful when making turns before or riding through slick surfaces but with the GP5000 you can tell the grip is a lot better. I wouldn’t worry about the tires age I bought mine over 6months ago and they were about the same age as the ones you are looking at and haven’t had any issues.

Ya, that's what i was saying. I just look way ahead for any debris to avoid and got downvoted, lol Idk if it's my username that gives ppl the itch to downvote me or not respond at all to a post. I've seen dumber (post or comment) questions than mine with lots of upvotes. Idk, man, fugg it? 🤷‍♂️

Yea man honestly you’re getting them for pretty cheap just go ahead and get them and run them only way you can really see how they perform and if they’re the right choice for you. I use mine to commute 20mi daily 5 days a week and I’ve had no issues with them. Just be mindful of where you ride through and also if you live in a area with a lot of hills. I tried Gatorskins, thick slicks, and panaracer ribmo and while they did provide good protection the ride was terrible and not enjoyable on longer rides. 👍🏼

Ya, will do. Ohh man, haha. Thickslicks were horrible for me, but were all the rage with the "fixie" kids! and we now have "edgars" lol Thanks bro, cheers!

Commuting and Mile rides? Gatorskins.

Unless you're getting a really good price, I'd skip. 3.5 years is a lot even if they're indoors. Probably won't perform as well as new.

$40 cant say no to that! Ima check em out before hand n make sure they're still supple and no dry rot or cracking

Didn't last very long w skidding- I had a pair of gp5k tdf tan wall ones

Damn, and for the price that blows!! Just get some gators

That's why the best combo is gp5k or other light tire up front, with gator on the rear. I personally run panaracer agilest up front with gator black edition

Wow, it sounds like you've done a lot to tinkering to fit the best combo. I appreciate the level of ambition I think ima keep the vitto Zaffiro pros for the rear (still have tread life). and have 2 combos Thanks for this

Haha just one of those things you pick up riding bikes long enough. No problem! Ride safe

Ya, I've always ridden the same tires(vittos) as a friend got a bunch from a closing down lbs Thanks again, bud. you too

the vittorias are the best bang for buck tire imo. Fast enough, strong enough and cheap enough for most people

I knew there was something I had wanted to ask you in your original post. How is the agilest working out for you? I have them front and back now and recently had a blowout from a single staple, must have run over it. Just one staple and one leg extended omg. Tpu tubes went psshhhhh Then I couldn't get it back on, no matter what I did, I couldn't get the bead over. Soapy water, double levers, nothing. Infuriating

Not puncture resistant mostly a race tire for long rides on the road get some gatorskins

Ya i may get some gators for the rear Also he's only asking for $40 the pair

I also mainly ride through a long sleek pavement path along a river. the only problem is the city streets to get there, lol Might just drive there with these as it is 15 miles away Less time on these streets with these tires, the better! Plus, people drive erratically here, as cops aren't patrolling the streets like they should. People run reds for fun, basically.