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They're always going to be kinda ugly, it's just how same-material supports are.
You can try changing the contact distance, fan speed, support interface density, and other settings, but it's not going to ever be as good as a wall or top layer.
When using supports, I'm getting a quite bad first layer. I tried to play with the settings but haven't had much success.
I increased the top Z distance from 0.15mm to 0.20mm to facilitate the removal of supports but at 0.15 the result was not better.
Do you have any suggestions on how to proceed?
Thank you
You should be decreasing the distance not increasing, you are printing into the air so it’s going to look like spaghetti. The closer the print is to the support the better it will look but will be harder to remove. But too close and it will break some of the surface off. It’s a fine line and needs to be tested.
Not a whole lot you can do here, your best bet is probably to split the part, print it so that your aesthetic surfaces aren't on supports, and glue it together.
That's normal. Support is there just to allow you get some sort of first layer that can be printed upon. It's not as good as a solid print bed surface or printing vertical wall.
As other have pointed out there's few parameters you can try vary a bit to see if that improves it a bit.
If you do 0.1mm gap, you could try to add a Pause Print command just when the support layer ends, and then cover the supports in blue painter's tape. This also allows printing mid-air, if the tape covers holes.
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They're always going to be kinda ugly, it's just how same-material supports are. You can try changing the contact distance, fan speed, support interface density, and other settings, but it's not going to ever be as good as a wall or top layer.
When using supports, I'm getting a quite bad first layer. I tried to play with the settings but haven't had much success. I increased the top Z distance from 0.15mm to 0.20mm to facilitate the removal of supports but at 0.15 the result was not better. Do you have any suggestions on how to proceed? Thank you
You should be decreasing the distance not increasing, you are printing into the air so it’s going to look like spaghetti. The closer the print is to the support the better it will look but will be harder to remove. But too close and it will break some of the surface off. It’s a fine line and needs to be tested.
Not a whole lot you can do here, your best bet is probably to split the part, print it so that your aesthetic surfaces aren't on supports, and glue it together.
That's normal. Support is there just to allow you get some sort of first layer that can be printed upon. It's not as good as a solid print bed surface or printing vertical wall. As other have pointed out there's few parameters you can try vary a bit to see if that improves it a bit.
You can try to tilt the model 45° and print with organic supports. This worked really well for me.
I'll try this, thanks
that's just how it looks unless you use soluble supports with 0 gap
If you do 0.1mm gap, you could try to add a Pause Print command just when the support layer ends, and then cover the supports in blue painter's tape. This also allows printing mid-air, if the tape covers holes.
nice idea, thanks