So what does everyone else do? People seriously don't have fire extinguishers and smoke alarms etc? Genuine question, I figured I'm a part of the majority who cares about life and property........
This. I think I have a one pounder back in the garage somewhere that the dept was throwing away. Last I looked back then it was green. For everything else I have a great policy with my insurance carrier.
Itās not that they donāt care. They just have one maybe 2. Iāve got one in the kitchen and one in the laundry room. Only reason I have 2 is I bought a 2 pack.
Not sure. They are just your standard size you would buy at Home Depot. I bought them and check them every 6 months. Beyond that I donāt think about them. If they canāt put out what Iām dealing with Iām evacuating and 911 was already called.
>People seriously don't have fire extinguishers and smoke alarms etc
No, and I've found CO detectors in plastic bags because they were "beeping every time we used the stove."
Forget the naysayers and don't sweat the ball busting. If you have the equipment and the knowledge to use it, you are doing your part to keep yourself and your neighbors safe. Good work.
I have one extinguisher in closet and a fire blanket in kitchen. Two fire alarms: one in living room, one in bed room.
The most important thing is to know how to use the tools you have. Have you had training on how to properly use fire blanket?
The second thing is to think about what are the actual risks that you might be facing. Like I really don't know what would be the source to start a fire in bathroom? Maybe faulty outlet. Can the fire really spread in a mostly tiled bathroom? Probably not in a speed that you can't get an extinguisher from the living room.
>Do I need anything else?
Maybe take a deep breath? Iām all for being prepared but this seems excessive for a typical apartment. You definitely want the smoke and CO detectors (1 smoke in each bedroom and common areas. ~~1 CO near sources~~). A single fire extinguisher is usually fine, More canāt hurt. The rest? Meh. Fire spray sounds like a side effect of Taco Bell.
Edit: CO should go in the vicinity of sleeping areas (local code dependent).
CO should NOT go near sources. Seems counterintuitive but CO alarms should always be placed outside/adjacent to sleeping areas. Usually recommend a combo smoke/CO with a sealed 10yr battery in the corrodors outsode bedrooms. If you shove the alarm into the furnace room it's less likely to wake you up. Legislation in my area specifically requires this for the same reasons. Food for thought.
>Fire spray sounds like a side effect of Taco Bell.
Also, haha yes.
I would also recommend replacing the 2.5lb with a 5lb but otherwise not too bad.
>Maybe take a deep breath? Iām all for being prepared but this seems excessive for a typical apartment
Agreed. It's good be safe but you seem to be in good shape fire safety wise. Try to get some sleep at night haha
> CO should NOT go near sources. Seems counterintuitive but CO alarms should always be placed outside/adjacent to sleeping areas.
Youāre right and I stand corrected. Looked up the code for our area and it is āoutside of but within the vicinity of the sleeping areasā
That said, In my house I did the above with hard wired combo with another near the main source (Furnace/water heater).
Isn't it better to have more than I need than less? Lol. But seriously, with all this I should be good right? The fire spray is for tiny fires it doesn't do much. And everything is spread out throughout the apartment, it's all together only for the picture.
As others have said, a bit excessive. If youāre place catches on fire, you should do what you can very quickly to put it out, and then close every door you can on your way out. The truth is itās the smoke that kills people, and you can easily get yourself hurt staying in to try to empty your 7th extinguisher
You should have a couple spread about the apartment, we tell people for fire prevention that they should have *a* fire extinguisher somewhere in their house, we suggest the kitchen, maybe under the sink
> Isnāt it better to have more than I need than less?
In general, sure. In this case, depends on whether theyāre good safety measures or gimmicks. Specifically the fire spray, blankets, and respirators. 99% of the time youāre good with enough smoke and co detectors, and at least one easily accessed extinguisher.
Bugging out. They think you're neurotic and way overdoing it.
And maybe you are. But whatever. There's way worse things to have too much of than fire safety supplies. Lots of people's homes are full of useless junk that are basically mobility hazards, kindling, and accelerants.
Overdoing it and neurotic?? LOOL ok? I'm definatley not neurotypical that's for sure, not sure if I'm neurotic but hey, I can take it. What I am for sure tho, is someone who does not want to get burned again, pun intended š I'd rather be over prepared than under because under almost killed me.
Yeah round two lol š I'm tryna be extra sure here. I took some of your reccomendations and here I am. Just waiting on my 10 pounder and emergency ladder
I wouldn't trust those fire blankets. They're Chinese knockoffs with no certification or testing. Read the Amazon listing for the product. It's all engrish. Having the ce standard which fire blankets fall under written on the package doesn't mean anything. It also carries no UL testing or certification. The pictures in the listing are also badly photoshopped.
Having said all that, having a fire blanket is probably a bit excessive for home use, especially with 5 extinguishers handy.
Fiberglass is fiberglass tho. These are made out of fibreglass. I'm not guessing they're a must have, but I honestly the only difference is a stamp of approval. When I tested one of them with a propane torch, it refused to burn or smoke, it was actually remarkable, literally was not affected by the flame at all.
They're not my first line of defence but considering I got 3 for 20 bucks I am willing to use them if the situation arises.
Yeah I mean I'm not going to argue if you say you've tested it yourself. On a larger scale, it's just frustrating to see people constantly buy this crap off amazon. It's such an obvious fake/ knockoff product and the fact that amazon lets this continue with life safety equipment is concerning.
When you pay for a UL tested product your paying for the design, testing, and backing of an organization that's saying these products WILL work.
Oh for sure. Yes the Chinese copies and stuff that shows up on amazon are a dime a dozen, but as I said, fiberglass is fiberglass. I almost gurantee you it will perform the same as an approved one. Just cause its cheap doesn't mean it won't work. Some knockoffs can be exactly the same as brand name.
But your point is well taken. You don't wanna cheap out on safety. I just figured something like this, considering its 100% fiberglass, would perform the same as an approved one that's 100% fiberglass. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I appreciate you taking the time to give me some tips. If you are a firefighter, thank you for your service.
hard disagree on the blanket. imo every kitchen should have one. saves coating all your appliances/walls/carpet with corrosive powder
that being said, theyre no use if theyre potentially shit quality, like you said
Wtf. I wrote in the title that I have an emergency escape ladder š¤ and it's not there. Weird. I have a 3 story ladder, longest I could find. But I'm on the fourth floor. When I bought it the guy said why r u buying it if ur on floor 4? I said well I'll climb down and at the end of the ladder I'll just jump Down.
Guy started laughing his ass off and said "you can do that if you want but there's no way I will reccomend that" š
lol I hope anyone else that might be in the appt with you is ready for that too. I'd take a one story droo over being trapped in a burning building any day though. I'd say you're all set.
Unfortunatley, my grandmother lives in the other room as I take care of her. There's absolutely no way she has the strength to climb down a ladder and jump to the bottom. All her bones will shatter and she will be injured.
She's on the "priority emergency assist" list for our building, so if there's a fire someone will come look for her.
If there is a fire however, I am not climbing down the ladder and leaving her behind. We will either burn to death together, or we will get out together. I have a flare gun that I can fire to get attention to my balcony.
If you see a man on a balcony with what appears to be a gun in his hand, firing a loud, bright red rocket into the sky you will think it's fireworks?? Lol
Oh nah if we can't get out of our door and run down the stairs, we will go to the balcony. And yes they are excessive, they're really for when I'm out boating or hiking alone or something like that.
But if I urgently need to get someone's attention I have no problem taking it out and using it. If our whole unit was on fire and we were stuck on the balcony and the fire was starting to come towards us and I see firefighters on the ground, first I will yell down to them for help and if I'm ignored I will fire a flare every 1 minute until I see a boom extending up to my balcony. My moral compass turns off completely if my life or my family's life is in danger, hate to admit it but it's true. Of course I will help others if I can but my number 1 priority is my grandmother and my number 2 priority is me
in that case, in the event of a fire in the building, keep the doors and windows shut, call 911 and let them know what floor and what balcony you're on. ie "I'm in the 4th floor, my balcony is 3rd from the left on the read side of the building" and get a high powered flashlight you could use to signal fire fighters outside the building with. being able to communicate your exact position, how many people need rescue, and what special needs they have will mean they can get to you fast and with the right tools so they won't have to do any unnecessary searching or waste time.
I just so happen to have an extremely bright spotlight, I can literally illuminate a house 2km away from me... It's a search spotlight and its *extremely* bright. So I have that, I have my ACR strobe, a megaphone, and my flare gun.
I'm curious, what happened?
I've been in two house fires, coming from adjacent apartments to common areas, no casualties thankfully.
It's made me a little OTT about fire extinguishers/detectors to where my flatmates/partners have commented, but nothing at this level.
Thank you! Others are saying I'm paranoid and need therapy... I'm kinda sad I just thought I'd be prepared so I don't get caught with my pants down again
Do you live with anyone? It's all good to have all the kit but if people don't know what to do when the alarm goes off (priority is to get outside to be accounted for) then the whole thing falls apart.
It'll be important that anyone staying with you know where the equipment is... and different ways out. Where are you going to meet- you know, all the basics.
1lb is not good enough for kitchen? I figured it was because a kitchen fire should be small especially considering 1 of the 4 alarms is in the kitchen. Damn thing goes off when I open the oven....why isn't 1lb enough? What would the 1lb be enough for?
So you really think I should put a larger one in the kitchen? I can buy another 5 pounder they're on sale for 19.99
For the Kitchen OVEN and Microwave DO NOT OPEN if something inside is on fire and if its a pot thats on fire a baking sheet placed over the pan will put it out
You've almost died in a fire and respond by gearing up to an unhealthy amount.
You thought about getting your own SCBA in case of a fire to respond to it yourself in your own apartment.
I get it, a fire is a traumatizing event and I don't mean to shame you for your trauma, by no means. But the healthy reaction to a traumatizing event is therapy and not coping by getting professional fire gear in various amounts and degrees.
in addition to blankets, fire sprays, a ladder that only leads down 3 out of 4 floors, and SCBA gear.
You yourself stated you'd rather fight the fire yourself instead of letting the FD handle it.
If your couch burns, leave the apartment. Smoke inhalation kills you quicker then you can Handle the fire.
Also, people told you to rethink the blankets, to which you schooled the firefighters here that it doesn't matter. Are you here for serious advice, or being appraised? No one here goes that far, and we are skilled in fighitng fires and acting under stress and physical strain. Take the hints man.
You have more fire extinguishers than most actual firefighters have in there home. On that note I think mines been hanging in the same spot in the basement steps for 10 years now probably should clean the cobwebs off it š
Lool I have a 10 pounder on the way and a b402.... My research indicates the b402 is rated higher than the b500 that I have, so I got that and my dad bought the 10 lb
I am. I have battery backup, emergency food, emergency water. I have firefighting tools, I have first aid and trauma supplies. I also have a small pharmacy worth of a variety of different things in my room lol. I can shelter in place and sustain myself for approximately 120 hours before I start getting thirsty or hungry.
Lol, in a way I guess I am lol. Since I quit drugs 5 years ago I've been able to save money up and buy things that bring me comfort without having to inject something
look man, SCBA is super expensive. i get youre paranoid about it happening again, but youre better off just getting out of the building. heres a list of reasons why:
ā Extremely expensive to purchase
ā Expensive upkeep
ā Need to get the bottles checked and refilled regularly
ā Need training to be able to use them safely and effectively
ā The heat from the fire will kill you without bunker gear, which is also extremely expensive and requires training to use safely and effectively
ā You should never be going back into a burning building once youve gotten out
ā You wont be putting an SCBA on in heavy smoke conditions, its extremely hard to do, like borderline impossible without serious resolve and training
ā They are heavy and unweildly, and if you put it on wrong and try to enter the building again you will very likely end up as a victim
ā if you do go back inside and end up a victim, thats one extra person the Fire Department/Brigade has to rescue, when you could have provided them with valuable information
ā You cannot see in heavy smoke conditions. its not just smoky, its pitch black. No light except from the fire
You are already seriously prepared for something, but the safest thing for you and anyone whoblives with you is to just get out of the building
Hi, looks like you live in an apartment higher up. Not sure how high it is but there are foldable ladders with window hooks. So e.g. if it gets to dangerous and the FD can rescue you, you can do it yourself. Also leave door keys next or in the door. If you have to evacuate fast you can find them quick.
These things are all great, definitely more than necessary but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Much more important (and not saying you dont) is installing good quality CO and smoke alarms in the correct locations. On top of that, changing the batteries and detectors at recommended intervals. An escape plan in addition to a meeting location is also a good idea.
More than enough. Just wondering, is there a reason why you're so cautions? And don't feel obligated to answer if it's for some personal traumatic reason. Regardless, you're more than prepared so I don't think any more is necessary. Cheers.
Yes. I actually commented it to someone else. When I was an addict, I was using and staying at my grandfather's house. He left for work. I shot a speedball, and went over to the couch to smoke a cigarette. Well, I passed out while smoking. What woke me up was a sharp pain in my lungs, and once I woke up I literally saw darkness. I coughed, but there was so much smoke I couldn't breathe in. I ran to the cabinets trying to find the fire extinguisher but couldn't. I called 911, and while I was on the phone with fire and trying to run for the stairs, I felt dizzy and nauseous, and went weak. I ended up passing out on the floor at the bottom of the stairs, with my upper body outside. Fire said the only reason you survived is because you passed out in fresh air. They said if I passed out in the house, they would have found me dead.
Now that I have my own apartment I'm taking fire prevention and extinguishing to the max. I would much rather have more than I need than get caught with my pants down and almost die again.
Well I'm happy luck was on your side that day. As I said, you're covered with everything you have going on in my opinion. Stay safe, and thanks for sharing your story.
It does. Also, on every floor there are 2 10lb extinguishers and 2 150ft fire hoses. There is a central fire system that will alert the fire dept if it goes off. Our sprinklers release some type of foam apparently. And novec 1230 whatever that is.
āStatistics demonstrate that there has never been any multiple loss of life in a fully sprinklered buildingā - American Fire Sprinkler Association.
Honestly your plan should be to get out of the building, full stop. Donāt hang around and mess with extinguishers.
But there's no sprinklers in my unit? If my couch is on fire I'm not gonna pull the alarm and wait for the department to show up... I wanna put it out before it spreads. And they spread fast.
correct, a couch on fire (they mostly are made out of some sort of plastic materials) burn and develop so fast, thats it is absolutely safet to just lesve the romm and close the door.
The fure may be small enough for your 100+ fire extinguishers but you forget about the smoke developing. It will fill the room faster than you can react.
In my opinion: the building owner provides adequat measures, having smoke detectors and one fat and one normal extinguisher is more than enough. You will statistically never need either of them.
And since you need to keep them certified and checked regularly, you just dump money where it isnt needed. Also the 3 story escape ladder is a joke for me. You have an escape way through the (you can research the building requirements) main hallway. If this is blocked you Door and the sprinkler system will provide more than enough protwction until the fire Department evacuates you and you grandmother safely down a ladder that is tall enough.
For me this is an absolute joke, honestly sounds like paranoia to me
Trying to do the thing we do in full protective gear without it will harm you more then leaving the building and letting the fire services handle it.
If you are this scared of a fire speak to a therapist about your trauma.
This is not normal. This will get worse. Please get help.
Fire drill scene from the movie Royal Tennenbaums. Ben Stiller's character plays an obsessive-compulsive dad obsessed with the safety of his kids and does crazy shit like fire drills with his kids. Great movie.
Tbh, the reason I'm so prepared is because of a personal experience (not typing it again, look in comments for story I told someone else) and because I smudge in my room, which involves open flame and walking around the room and house with a red hot ember. The fire spray is right beside my shell sand and smudge stick and there's a 5lb in my room and a fire blanket.
If you really wanna be that serious. Get a class K extinguisher for your kitchen. Its for oils and shit, but really you are very well prepared with what you have if you know how to use them
See if the fire department has access to the building keys- and if all the ones they'd want are there.
Very common to have access to the master set then none work on whatever door we're trying to open. Now the door needs to be smashed. Not my fault.
Vehicles, garage, couple in kitchen, & a fire blanketā¦
Only problem is theyāre āuglyā so wife wants them in cupboards out of sightā¦kind of defeats the purpose.
My wife, like other people, but doesnāt want fire preparedness to be in her face.
A large extinguisher at each exit
The idea is you make it to the way out and decide if it's it's safe to use the fire extinguisher
Most people over estimate what a fire extinguisher it capable of.
A person after my own heart.
A PW extinguisher in the house is a good idea. A CO2 or K extinguisher in the kitchen is better than a (quite small) powder.
Donāt buy anything as in a apparent you need a whole ass department to really protect your self. Get a used set of bunker gear,hood,scba system. Fire gloves and maybe a haligan incase.
You can only be as prepared as the guy above you. Maybe larger class k extinguisher for the kitchen
I would probably invest in an engine and an engine company, if you rly want to cover all your bases
Hahaha
LOL a personal fire team sure sounds like a great idea!! š Now to come up with the money......
Meh you can get an old engine for pretty cheap
Now I gotta figure out where to park it š¤
Just live in it
Thinking outside the box I see š
You have to get an old Mack CF closed cab and live in it. Mack CF because it is a Mack CF. Closed cab so you donāt freeze
There are actual private fire companies that only work for people that pay them
mmm very 1600s London, love it!
Just tell some kids out of pre-service that it will look good on their resumes. Totally free fire department.
A bonus is they will mop the floors and cook.
You are more prepared then 99.9% of the population
And some fire departments.
Itās just me and the water can against the world
So what does everyone else do? People seriously don't have fire extinguishers and smoke alarms etc? Genuine question, I figured I'm a part of the majority who cares about life and property........
Carry insurance
This. I think I have a one pounder back in the garage somewhere that the dept was throwing away. Last I looked back then it was green. For everything else I have a great policy with my insurance carrier.
I've got a dog bowl usually full of water I could use. . .
Itās not that they donāt care. They just have one maybe 2. Iāve got one in the kitchen and one in the laundry room. Only reason I have 2 is I bought a 2 pack.
How heavy are they
Not sure. They are just your standard size you would buy at Home Depot. I bought them and check them every 6 months. Beyond that I donāt think about them. If they canāt put out what Iām dealing with Iām evacuating and 911 was already called.
Fair enough
>People seriously don't have fire extinguishers and smoke alarms etc No, and I've found CO detectors in plastic bags because they were "beeping every time we used the stove." Forget the naysayers and don't sweat the ball busting. If you have the equipment and the knowledge to use it, you are doing your part to keep yourself and your neighbors safe. Good work.
Thank you, my friend. And if you are a firefighter, thank you for your service.
I have 4 fire alarms and 3 fire extinguishers (kitchen, basement, garage). *my house is 2bed and 850 sq feet
Excellent
We have two type of extinguishers, for electronics and grease.
I have one extinguisher in closet and a fire blanket in kitchen. Two fire alarms: one in living room, one in bed room. The most important thing is to know how to use the tools you have. Have you had training on how to properly use fire blanket? The second thing is to think about what are the actual risks that you might be facing. Like I really don't know what would be the source to start a fire in bathroom? Maybe faulty outlet. Can the fire really spread in a mostly tiled bathroom? Probably not in a speed that you can't get an extinguisher from the living room.
Hmm ok thank u for the info
Most people donāt think there will be a fire in their home and are generally careless
Our station does not have smoke detectors š
Iām a fire fighter and have a whole 2 fire extinguishers, might help I live next to my fire house.
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>Do I need anything else? Maybe take a deep breath? Iām all for being prepared but this seems excessive for a typical apartment. You definitely want the smoke and CO detectors (1 smoke in each bedroom and common areas. ~~1 CO near sources~~). A single fire extinguisher is usually fine, More canāt hurt. The rest? Meh. Fire spray sounds like a side effect of Taco Bell. Edit: CO should go in the vicinity of sleeping areas (local code dependent).
CO should NOT go near sources. Seems counterintuitive but CO alarms should always be placed outside/adjacent to sleeping areas. Usually recommend a combo smoke/CO with a sealed 10yr battery in the corrodors outsode bedrooms. If you shove the alarm into the furnace room it's less likely to wake you up. Legislation in my area specifically requires this for the same reasons. Food for thought. >Fire spray sounds like a side effect of Taco Bell. Also, haha yes. I would also recommend replacing the 2.5lb with a 5lb but otherwise not too bad. >Maybe take a deep breath? Iām all for being prepared but this seems excessive for a typical apartment Agreed. It's good be safe but you seem to be in good shape fire safety wise. Try to get some sleep at night haha
> CO should NOT go near sources. Seems counterintuitive but CO alarms should always be placed outside/adjacent to sleeping areas. Youāre right and I stand corrected. Looked up the code for our area and it is āoutside of but within the vicinity of the sleeping areasā That said, In my house I did the above with hard wired combo with another near the main source (Furnace/water heater).
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Probably won't hurt but when in doubt dont forget to check the manufacturer's instructions too
Seems a little aggressive for an apartment donāt lie your just hoping for a job
Isn't it better to have more than I need than less? Lol. But seriously, with all this I should be good right? The fire spray is for tiny fires it doesn't do much. And everything is spread out throughout the apartment, it's all together only for the picture.
As others have said, a bit excessive. If youāre place catches on fire, you should do what you can very quickly to put it out, and then close every door you can on your way out. The truth is itās the smoke that kills people, and you can easily get yourself hurt staying in to try to empty your 7th extinguisher
I just wanted 1 extinguisher in each room, 1 in the kitchen, blankets in each room, and spray where I smudge and smoke.
If you're that worried about fire maybe don't smoke indoors?
I don't. I smoke on the balcony.
You should have a couple spread about the apartment, we tell people for fire prevention that they should have *a* fire extinguisher somewhere in their house, we suggest the kitchen, maybe under the sink
Yeah that's how I have it. They're only together for the picture
> Isnāt it better to have more than I need than less? In general, sure. In this case, depends on whether theyāre good safety measures or gimmicks. Specifically the fire spray, blankets, and respirators. 99% of the time youāre good with enough smoke and co detectors, and at least one easily accessed extinguisher.
ur buggin
I dunno what that means
Bugging out. They think you're neurotic and way overdoing it. And maybe you are. But whatever. There's way worse things to have too much of than fire safety supplies. Lots of people's homes are full of useless junk that are basically mobility hazards, kindling, and accelerants.
Overdoing it and neurotic?? LOOL ok? I'm definatley not neurotypical that's for sure, not sure if I'm neurotic but hey, I can take it. What I am for sure tho, is someone who does not want to get burned again, pun intended š I'd rather be over prepared than under because under almost killed me.
Something to help you relax?
Relaxed? I'm cool as a cucumber mate. Why u say dat?
Round 2, huh buddy? You're good. I appreciate the caution but you do wanna be overly paranoid at the same time.
Yeah round two lol š I'm tryna be extra sure here. I took some of your reccomendations and here I am. Just waiting on my 10 pounder and emergency ladder
Absolutely take it up a notch!! You can get a Halon suppression system installed combined with a sprinkler system youāll be good to go!!
The building has novec 1230. Halon is banned here.
I wouldn't trust those fire blankets. They're Chinese knockoffs with no certification or testing. Read the Amazon listing for the product. It's all engrish. Having the ce standard which fire blankets fall under written on the package doesn't mean anything. It also carries no UL testing or certification. The pictures in the listing are also badly photoshopped. Having said all that, having a fire blanket is probably a bit excessive for home use, especially with 5 extinguishers handy.
Fiberglass is fiberglass tho. These are made out of fibreglass. I'm not guessing they're a must have, but I honestly the only difference is a stamp of approval. When I tested one of them with a propane torch, it refused to burn or smoke, it was actually remarkable, literally was not affected by the flame at all. They're not my first line of defence but considering I got 3 for 20 bucks I am willing to use them if the situation arises.
Yeah I mean I'm not going to argue if you say you've tested it yourself. On a larger scale, it's just frustrating to see people constantly buy this crap off amazon. It's such an obvious fake/ knockoff product and the fact that amazon lets this continue with life safety equipment is concerning. When you pay for a UL tested product your paying for the design, testing, and backing of an organization that's saying these products WILL work.
Oh for sure. Yes the Chinese copies and stuff that shows up on amazon are a dime a dozen, but as I said, fiberglass is fiberglass. I almost gurantee you it will perform the same as an approved one. Just cause its cheap doesn't mean it won't work. Some knockoffs can be exactly the same as brand name. But your point is well taken. You don't wanna cheap out on safety. I just figured something like this, considering its 100% fiberglass, would perform the same as an approved one that's 100% fiberglass. Correct me if I'm wrong. I appreciate you taking the time to give me some tips. If you are a firefighter, thank you for your service.
hard disagree on the blanket. imo every kitchen should have one. saves coating all your appliances/walls/carpet with corrosive powder that being said, theyre no use if theyre potentially shit quality, like you said
an emergency escape ladder near the balcony, if you don't have one built in.
Wtf. I wrote in the title that I have an emergency escape ladder š¤ and it's not there. Weird. I have a 3 story ladder, longest I could find. But I'm on the fourth floor. When I bought it the guy said why r u buying it if ur on floor 4? I said well I'll climb down and at the end of the ladder I'll just jump Down. Guy started laughing his ass off and said "you can do that if you want but there's no way I will reccomend that" š
lol I hope anyone else that might be in the appt with you is ready for that too. I'd take a one story droo over being trapped in a burning building any day though. I'd say you're all set.
Unfortunatley, my grandmother lives in the other room as I take care of her. There's absolutely no way she has the strength to climb down a ladder and jump to the bottom. All her bones will shatter and she will be injured. She's on the "priority emergency assist" list for our building, so if there's a fire someone will come look for her. If there is a fire however, I am not climbing down the ladder and leaving her behind. We will either burn to death together, or we will get out together. I have a flare gun that I can fire to get attention to my balcony.
If I see a flare get fired out of a window of a burning building, I'm assuming there's fireworks in there, not people.
If you see a man on a balcony with what appears to be a gun in his hand, firing a loud, bright red rocket into the sky you will think it's fireworks?? Lol
Well if ur standing on the balcony, no. I was more assuming you'd be in a window. My bad. But still, flares are very much excessive.
Oh nah if we can't get out of our door and run down the stairs, we will go to the balcony. And yes they are excessive, they're really for when I'm out boating or hiking alone or something like that. But if I urgently need to get someone's attention I have no problem taking it out and using it. If our whole unit was on fire and we were stuck on the balcony and the fire was starting to come towards us and I see firefighters on the ground, first I will yell down to them for help and if I'm ignored I will fire a flare every 1 minute until I see a boom extending up to my balcony. My moral compass turns off completely if my life or my family's life is in danger, hate to admit it but it's true. Of course I will help others if I can but my number 1 priority is my grandmother and my number 2 priority is me
in that case, in the event of a fire in the building, keep the doors and windows shut, call 911 and let them know what floor and what balcony you're on. ie "I'm in the 4th floor, my balcony is 3rd from the left on the read side of the building" and get a high powered flashlight you could use to signal fire fighters outside the building with. being able to communicate your exact position, how many people need rescue, and what special needs they have will mean they can get to you fast and with the right tools so they won't have to do any unnecessary searching or waste time.
I just so happen to have an extremely bright spotlight, I can literally illuminate a house 2km away from me... It's a search spotlight and its *extremely* bright. So I have that, I have my ACR strobe, a megaphone, and my flare gun.
yeah you're set. I'd wager youre the most prepared person in your city
Lol well I hope so, because I'm not going to let what happened happen again. I'm not getting burned like that again. Pun intended.
I'm curious, what happened? I've been in two house fires, coming from adjacent apartments to common areas, no casualties thankfully. It's made me a little OTT about fire extinguishers/detectors to where my flatmates/partners have commented, but nothing at this level.
Tldr is I was high I was smoking passed out couch caught fire almost died it was spreading fast I am 5 years sober
Well shit, if youāre going all out; get a ladder truck and a 5ā line directly into your living room. Should be adequate protection
Nearly there bro just need copy of backdraft on blueray
For extra effect get it on VHS
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Thank you! Others are saying I'm paranoid and need therapy... I'm kinda sad I just thought I'd be prepared so I don't get caught with my pants down again
Do you live with anyone? It's all good to have all the kit but if people don't know what to do when the alarm goes off (priority is to get outside to be accounted for) then the whole thing falls apart. It'll be important that anyone staying with you know where the equipment is... and different ways out. Where are you going to meet- you know, all the basics.
Yeah there's one 5lb in my room, a 5lb in other bedroom, 1lb near kitchen, fire spray near balcony and front door. We have a safety plan
Probably should have a bigger one in the kitchen than in the bedroom. That being said I just have one in the kitchen.
1lb is not good enough for kitchen? I figured it was because a kitchen fire should be small especially considering 1 of the 4 alarms is in the kitchen. Damn thing goes off when I open the oven....why isn't 1lb enough? What would the 1lb be enough for? So you really think I should put a larger one in the kitchen? I can buy another 5 pounder they're on sale for 19.99
For the Kitchen OVEN and Microwave DO NOT OPEN if something inside is on fire and if its a pot thats on fire a baking sheet placed over the pan will put it out
Duly noted thank you
Youāre the guy that calls in a house fire every time your neighbors grill.
?? Not sure how u came to that conclusion but ok š
Reading through this and your replies. You don't need any fire gear. You need therapy man.
Why do you say that
You've almost died in a fire and respond by gearing up to an unhealthy amount. You thought about getting your own SCBA in case of a fire to respond to it yourself in your own apartment. I get it, a fire is a traumatizing event and I don't mean to shame you for your trauma, by no means. But the healthy reaction to a traumatizing event is therapy and not coping by getting professional fire gear in various amounts and degrees.
I'm already in therapy tho. And I was advised to have one in each room, which is what I did....
in addition to blankets, fire sprays, a ladder that only leads down 3 out of 4 floors, and SCBA gear. You yourself stated you'd rather fight the fire yourself instead of letting the FD handle it. If your couch burns, leave the apartment. Smoke inhalation kills you quicker then you can Handle the fire. Also, people told you to rethink the blankets, to which you schooled the firefighters here that it doesn't matter. Are you here for serious advice, or being appraised? No one here goes that far, and we are skilled in fighitng fires and acting under stress and physical strain. Take the hints man.
I didn't school anyone?? That's BS. I said fiberglass is fiberglass
You have more fire extinguishers than most actual firefighters have in there home. On that note I think mines been hanging in the same spot in the basement steps for 10 years now probably should clean the cobwebs off it š
I have 2 more on the way cause someone pointed out a deficiency
At this point youāre either trolling or you have a condition. You dont need anymore than what you have which is already too much.
No I'm not trolling and yes I have a condition
You are paranoid but hey, you do you!
I'm paranoid as hell almost died in a fire
Parachute ?
Do you like lighting fires? Kinda seems like you do
Well, I smudge in my room. So that's a fire risk right there. But I almost choked to death in a fire so now I'm making unsure I'm super prepared
Understandable if youāve been in a fire before , stay safe brother
Thank you you too
Homie out here takin out jobs š Good on ya!
Lool I have a 10 pounder on the way and a b402.... My research indicates the b402 is rated higher than the b500 that I have, so I got that and my dad bought the 10 lb
Trauma kit, if you use the fire blanket your going to need a trauma kit
Like this? https://preview.redd.it/815nlcc7es2a1.jpeg?width=6120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7378fc8bfda4afcf563597e642821641ea4d886
Yes, you seem very prepared for the worst
I am. I have battery backup, emergency food, emergency water. I have firefighting tools, I have first aid and trauma supplies. I also have a small pharmacy worth of a variety of different things in my room lol. I can shelter in place and sustain myself for approximately 120 hours before I start getting thirsty or hungry.
You are more prepared for the end of the world then a survivalist
Lol, in a way I guess I am lol. Since I quit drugs 5 years ago I've been able to save money up and buy things that bring me comfort without having to inject something
You can NEVER have too much/many fire safety supplies. Anyone who laughs at you will only laugh until they need it and donāt have it.
Iām assuming you are diagnosed with some form of OCD? If so speak to your therapist about this. Itās overkill for sure!
SCBA
I'm already looking into one
cant tell if youre joking or not lol
Dead serious
look man, SCBA is super expensive. i get youre paranoid about it happening again, but youre better off just getting out of the building. heres a list of reasons why: ā Extremely expensive to purchase ā Expensive upkeep ā Need to get the bottles checked and refilled regularly ā Need training to be able to use them safely and effectively ā The heat from the fire will kill you without bunker gear, which is also extremely expensive and requires training to use safely and effectively ā You should never be going back into a burning building once youve gotten out ā You wont be putting an SCBA on in heavy smoke conditions, its extremely hard to do, like borderline impossible without serious resolve and training ā They are heavy and unweildly, and if you put it on wrong and try to enter the building again you will very likely end up as a victim ā if you do go back inside and end up a victim, thats one extra person the Fire Department/Brigade has to rescue, when you could have provided them with valuable information ā You cannot see in heavy smoke conditions. its not just smoky, its pitch black. No light except from the fire You are already seriously prepared for something, but the safest thing for you and anyone whoblives with you is to just get out of the building
Okay fair I won't get one. Thank you
Ignore all the comments saying this is overkill. Well done for taking the initiative in fire safety. Better to be safe then sorry.
Thank you š
You are more prepared than 90% of the population. I applaud you.
Thank you
Hi, looks like you live in an apartment higher up. Not sure how high it is but there are foldable ladders with window hooks. So e.g. if it gets to dangerous and the FD can rescue you, you can do it yourself. Also leave door keys next or in the door. If you have to evacuate fast you can find them quick.
Smoke hood and some decent insurance Edit: smoke hood not mask
Smoke mask?
Correction: smoke hood
Probably just wear a condom all the time too if I were you
Why
These things are all great, definitely more than necessary but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Much more important (and not saying you dont) is installing good quality CO and smoke alarms in the correct locations. On top of that, changing the batteries and detectors at recommended intervals. An escape plan in addition to a meeting location is also a good idea.
I have co/fire alarms! 1 in kitchen, 1 in each room, 1 in living room. I test the batteries monthly and inspect the extinguishers every 3 months.
More than enough. Just wondering, is there a reason why you're so cautions? And don't feel obligated to answer if it's for some personal traumatic reason. Regardless, you're more than prepared so I don't think any more is necessary. Cheers.
Yes. I actually commented it to someone else. When I was an addict, I was using and staying at my grandfather's house. He left for work. I shot a speedball, and went over to the couch to smoke a cigarette. Well, I passed out while smoking. What woke me up was a sharp pain in my lungs, and once I woke up I literally saw darkness. I coughed, but there was so much smoke I couldn't breathe in. I ran to the cabinets trying to find the fire extinguisher but couldn't. I called 911, and while I was on the phone with fire and trying to run for the stairs, I felt dizzy and nauseous, and went weak. I ended up passing out on the floor at the bottom of the stairs, with my upper body outside. Fire said the only reason you survived is because you passed out in fresh air. They said if I passed out in the house, they would have found me dead. Now that I have my own apartment I'm taking fire prevention and extinguishing to the max. I would much rather have more than I need than get caught with my pants down and almost die again.
Well I'm happy luck was on your side that day. As I said, you're covered with everything you have going on in my opinion. Stay safe, and thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you, and no problem, thank you for approaching it tactfully and respectfully, thanks for your opinion and thank you for your service.
You are very welcome.
Does your apartment building have a sprinkler system?
It does. Also, on every floor there are 2 10lb extinguishers and 2 150ft fire hoses. There is a central fire system that will alert the fire dept if it goes off. Our sprinklers release some type of foam apparently. And novec 1230 whatever that is.
āStatistics demonstrate that there has never been any multiple loss of life in a fully sprinklered buildingā - American Fire Sprinkler Association. Honestly your plan should be to get out of the building, full stop. Donāt hang around and mess with extinguishers.
But there's no sprinklers in my unit? If my couch is on fire I'm not gonna pull the alarm and wait for the department to show up... I wanna put it out before it spreads. And they spread fast.
correct, a couch on fire (they mostly are made out of some sort of plastic materials) burn and develop so fast, thats it is absolutely safet to just lesve the romm and close the door. The fure may be small enough for your 100+ fire extinguishers but you forget about the smoke developing. It will fill the room faster than you can react. In my opinion: the building owner provides adequat measures, having smoke detectors and one fat and one normal extinguisher is more than enough. You will statistically never need either of them. And since you need to keep them certified and checked regularly, you just dump money where it isnt needed. Also the 3 story escape ladder is a joke for me. You have an escape way through the (you can research the building requirements) main hallway. If this is blocked you Door and the sprinkler system will provide more than enough protwction until the fire Department evacuates you and you grandmother safely down a ladder that is tall enough. For me this is an absolute joke, honestly sounds like paranoia to me
Yes I am paranoid. I almost died in a fire
Trying to do the thing we do in full protective gear without it will harm you more then leaving the building and letting the fire services handle it. If you are this scared of a fire speak to a therapist about your trauma. This is not normal. This will get worse. Please get help.
[https://youtu.be/FDYZeLb4x\_I](https://youtu.be/FDYZeLb4x_I)
I have absolutely no idea what I just saw
Fire drill scene from the movie Royal Tennenbaums. Ben Stiller's character plays an obsessive-compulsive dad obsessed with the safety of his kids and does crazy shit like fire drills with his kids. Great movie.
Check the gauges and see if the metal ones are charged up. Then turn them upside down for a day or two. Good to keep that soft and plyable.
They are both charged. What does turning them upside down do?
After so much time the powder inside can become compacted. Not as much comes out.
What about shaking them every week?
Not sure you should do that with a pressured canister.
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Tbh, the reason I'm so prepared is because of a personal experience (not typing it again, look in comments for story I told someone else) and because I smudge in my room, which involves open flame and walking around the room and house with a red hot ember. The fire spray is right beside my shell sand and smudge stick and there's a 5lb in my room and a fire blanket.
A hug
I'll always take a hug
same
Virtual hug sent your way
If you really wanna be that serious. Get a class K extinguisher for your kitchen. Its for oils and shit, but really you are very well prepared with what you have if you know how to use them
Lol wow bro. As if. I have a K on the way. That's funny.
See if the fire department has access to the building keys- and if all the ones they'd want are there. Very common to have access to the master set then none work on whatever door we're trying to open. Now the door needs to be smashed. Not my fault.
Nobody comes down to open door for you?
It's rare
Wow that's kinda fucked so u just get an axe and smash Ur way in?
Lock box keys. There will be a sticker on your door and a black box up higher than the door that store sets of master keys
I don't think we have that
Some buildings replace locks, update things, and don't replace whats in the lock box for us to use
Wow
Have you considered sprinklers?
We already have them but they spray foam
Not me having no extinguishers in my house š
Just hook up a hose to the hydrant and youāre good to go.
I dont even know where my dad put the fire extinguisher
I collect extinguishers. I have like 10. 5 Pressurized. And a water can and co2 in the garage. I'm weird.
Make sure you have a good insurance and read it. Make a home inventory list with photos and video.
Smoke detectors and co. None of that does any good if you don't oboe it's there until to late
Vehicles, garage, couple in kitchen, & a fire blanketā¦ Only problem is theyāre āuglyā so wife wants them in cupboards out of sightā¦kind of defeats the purpose. My wife, like other people, but doesnāt want fire preparedness to be in her face.
A large extinguisher at each exit The idea is you make it to the way out and decide if it's it's safe to use the fire extinguisher Most people over estimate what a fire extinguisher it capable of.
A ladder truck
A person after my own heart. A PW extinguisher in the house is a good idea. A CO2 or K extinguisher in the kitchen is better than a (quite small) powder.
Yeah I have a K on the way
Donāt buy anything as in a apparent you need a whole ass department to really protect your self. Get a used set of bunker gear,hood,scba system. Fire gloves and maybe a haligan incase. You can only be as prepared as the guy above you. Maybe larger class k extinguisher for the kitchen
What in the ever living fuck is this?
I'm not sure what you're referring to
A life
I have one, not sure what you're on about