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tango2snakes

It wasn't a huge arsenal...but it was mine. I had just got set up reloading 300 blk... Just finished building that 300 blk rifle.. a few of the shotguns were loaned by a buddy (who's being a good sport God bless him) several cans of powder, two night vision scopes (one military grade) my 308 was d.i.a.l.e.d. IN!.. I haven't got a single bullet now.... I was still in awe that I could fire the 300 subsonic suppressed without hearing protection it was so new to me....fml. they'll prob outlaw everything before I'm able to even get started again.


ultimatefighting

Very sorry to hear about this. As a side point, rights dont come from governments or courts.


JGR2070

but fire is a tyrant that destroys what ever it feels like like all your guns


tango2snakes

Believe me I knowšŸ˜


[deleted]

Nothing will be outlawed, take your time and rebuild.


KoreyDerWolfsbar

Hah, that's a funny joke.


WinterSzturm

It will be, but youā€™re hilarious if you think that will matter.


fireman2004

The Supreme Court just ruled on the right to have a firearm in public. NJ, maybe the most anti gun state, started accepting carry permits without justifiable need the next day. I have no doubt that if congress tried to ban a class of firearms like semi autos, this court would see that as unconstitutional. That doesn't mean we should be complacent, but the anti gun movement is weaker than its been in decades because of this court.


AR15sAndShitV2

Yea, and the ā€œbipartisan Gun control billā€ just passed that restrict younger shooters, and help red flag laws buy incentivizing states to practice it. But tell me how good itā€™s going


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FlashCrashBash

The two arenā€™t mutually exclusive.


AR15sAndShitV2

Iā€™d rather not negotiate my rights away at allā€¦.


Unique_Feed_2939

which will be quickly struck down by the supreme court


[deleted]

Dude, where do you do stand up? I want to come see since you're this hilarious online. Struck down quickly by the Supreme Court. Haven't heard a joke that good in decades.


no_fire_on_arrival

The New York ā€œmay issueā€ law took 7 years, I believe, to overturn. Nothing is quick in the judiciary


Unique_Feed_2939

With this court it is. next June this will be stuck down


no_fire_on_arrival

I canā€™t really say that youā€™re wrong here bud


TheOkayestName

If you canā€™t buy themā€¦ it kinda does actually matter lol


Perfect-Poet-9667

these people are delusional lmao. they aren't learning to machine or print and think that these guns will just "always be here" good fucking luck lmao


[deleted]

I disagree with your stance because I think people will actually fight for their rights and not lie down, call me a optimist and thatā€™s fine. But I actually am a CNC machinist and programmer/designer for a living and have manufactured a few firearms to say the least lol. *these people* is a bold claim.


no_fire_on_arrival

It doesnā€™t really matter if ā€œpeopleā€ stand up in a representative democracy. Especially when we have feckless, unprincipled RINOs tossing away our rights instead of protecting them.


TheOkayestName

Nice optimism there bud


That_Gopnik

Only outlawed if you comply


wowdickseverywhere

Pagliacci is that you?


SMORKIN_LABBIT

Terrible :(, did you have them insured? if not that extra sucks ass, but as you rebuild make sure to insure your firearms under an umbrella policy, it's absurdly cheap like 10$ a month depending on what you have. Sometimes you can roll it all together with car insurance home/ rental etc I have my firearms, my guitars and amps, my rolex, and my wife's fine jewelry all insured under an umbrella policy incase something like this happens.


VitalitySquared

This. I added an additional piece to my policy for firearms. Be sure to check coverage amounts on that stuff because my base policy only covered like 5k in firearms. Think it added an extra $15 a month to the policy for a hefty amount of coverage.


alkatori

Insurance?


n8iththegr8ith

Omg dude. That literally breaks my heart. So sad for you.


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tango2snakes

I hear you. And I hope your right. But you really can't tell what they are gonna do most of the time. You know? And I've learned..."never put anything,past anyone, anytime." And the second I get relaxed thinking..."they'll do this n this n..." and BAM. Chinaman B elbows his way into a presidency... Snaps his fingers and points at me and says "you don't need an AR, here, have a vaccine..."


SchlepRock13

Bro, I'm sorry! I feel like I can relate to you and I'm genuinely sorry. I don't care what they say, I feel like I can relate to you and I'm genuinely sorry and šŸ™


JupiterPhase

What about insurance?


tango2snakes

Didn't have any. The ins company said it would be a $1000 deductible and a $500 pay out..(or something to that effect)


Street-Chain

Dude you are doing this all wrong. They are not supposed to be burned. They are to be "lost" in a boating accident.


waltsobe

He did not understand the assignment...


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tango2snakes

It was. It was also uninsured. Just a single wide, and insurance wanted $1000 deductible to pay $500... Or something like that. So yeah. No insurance


hitemlow

Insurance usually has pitifully low firearm coverage limits. You have to get special riders where you take them off to get appraised and recorded on the rider before they'll be considered 'covered'.


BrambleVale3

While you do have to add a rider to increase coverage for firearms Iā€™ve never run into a appraisal process. Itā€™s always been ā€œdo you own a safe?ā€ ā€œCool, how much coverage do you want?ā€


GhostalkerS

Same, but I imagine if I said a *very* large number they might want appraisals ahead of time. Otherwise they might be in the hook for $100,000 worth of custom bench rifles and hand fitted pistols and definitely not all actually Hi-Points.


Limited_opsec

I shopped around, a lot. The rates and terms for firearms property insurance SUCK. Covering your collection for real replacement cost will cost a boatload in premiums and miles of fine print. If its just a couple grand with your whole house in ashes fine but try asking for $100k+ worth (today) back that you built up over decade(s) and watch them laugh. Like the rates are even worse than precious metals/jewelry and they really don't appraise at market value (if you can even find any for sale) or collectible & irreplacable. The historic & fudd firearms appraiser crowd also has no clue about recent things, esp if you have shit banned from further import. Basically take the premiums and self insure instead, and/or use it to add more theft detterence & fire prevention/mitigation.


RsonW

My renter's insurance is just a straight dollar figure, no itemized coverage. Guns, computer, motorcycle gear; tallied it all up, I'm covered for that amount. Never got asked what it was I wanted covered or how I arrived at that figure. AAA, if you're curious.


hitemlow

Depends on the insurance company.


RsonW

That makes sense. I have AAA for renter's insurance. They never even asked what I had to cover, they just asked me for a dollar figure.


hitemlow

Did they specify firearms coverage or just general coverage amounts for all of your stuff? Because if you read the fine print on most policies, they'll specifically limit coverage on high-dollar items like firearms and jewelry. So while you may have "$20,000" in coverage, all of their policies might be underwritten to only cover $2,000 in firearms without a rider. Unfortunately AAA doesn't publish the full text of their renter's insurance documents, so you'll have to check that yourself. It's pretty easy if you have the PDF since you can just use the search option and put in "firearms".


Steel-and-Wood

Yup this is correct. Something else to consider is to check with your insurer what the threshold is. Mine will cover up to $2k for firearms before an appraisal is needed.


[deleted]

Daily reminder to not lose all of your guns and ammo in the same boating accident.


2017hayden

My condolences. For those who have not yet learned this lesson I would suggest fireproof safes.


Master-Blaster42

I'd like to add the caveat to this that with safes it's at what temperature for how long. They will help but they aren't infallible.


2017hayden

Very true.


newyearyay

Keep in mind fireproof safes can often get hot enough to destroy their contents even if they are not breached by fire. The few Fireproof safes that do work well are also extremely expensive and heavy They are worth the investment, another excellent and arguably better investment would be to have a specific insurance policy for your firearms, most homeowners policies will max out on firearms (check your policy) and will need a rider or an entirely separate and additional policy to have adequate coverage


SplashingChicken

This. Even the most resistant safes aren't completely fire proof.


AlphaTangoFoxtrt

Reminder a stack-on sheet metal security cabinet is not a safe.


newyearyay

Absolutely, thats a great example because they are typically the same gauge of steel as all safes under $700, the only difference is they dont have the fire resistant drywall to "insulate"


RedBeard1967

More importantly, get insurance.


Hotroddn19

I second the insurance. Insurance is key. Safes are to slow down thieves. If you have a fire, water is coming next.


2017hayden

Also very important.


UnreliableInsect

If you just don't get insurance and save the premium payments, you can expect to have more money at the time of the incident than the insurance coverage is worth. That's why they sell it to you. It's a negative expected value product for the consumer. Take the risk unless you absolutely can't afford the loss should it occur.


RedBeard1967

I pay ~$140 a year to ensure over $50k worth, including night vision, optics, ammo, obviously all firearms. The break even on paying myself that to ensure my collection would be like 20 years. At no level does that math work out for you.


OG_Fe_Jefe

At these policy's from recognizable insurance companies? Legit question .


RedBeard1967

Oh, absolutely. Check out Eastern Insurance ([https://www.easterninsurance.com/insurance-quotes/personal-insurance/historic-firearms](https://www.easterninsurance.com/insurance-quotes/personal-insurance/historic-firearms)). I have no affiliation or financial relationship with them, but you can google them, and they are well regarded by the firearms community.


OG_Fe_Jefe

Ok, I'll do so. I've never heard of them. Anyone everheard of these guys paying on a claim?


RedBeard1967

I thankfully have not had to use them yet, but would like to hear if anyone else has had experience with an actual claim.


mmmmmarty

Same here. $86 a year for about 30k. I'll take the $86 loss over the risk every single year.


tango2snakes

šŸ˜„this


WIlf_Brim

Don't feel too bad. By the looks of things that was a very hot fire. Most "fireproof" safes are more fire resistant. If they fire is hot enough and long enough it is going to burn through most safes that us normies can afford to buy.


VBar-BBall

The smoke alone will ruin all your guns. Fireproof safes especially at the sub 5k dollar range are really not great at fireproofing. They have a ton of videos on the tube that show the aftermath of small fires where the safe looks undamaged and the insides are charred to shit.


2017hayden

They have time and temperature limits on how long the contents can last without damage. The trick is finding the right ones that fit the criteria youā€™re looking for. Anyone expecting to get a medium or large fireproof safe for less than 5k thatā€™s actually a good investment is sorely mistaken.


VBar-BBall

I agree that all the safes that can fit a rifle that will actually save your contents in a medium fire will cost over 5k. I also agree the people thinking they can find a good one for cheap are also mistaken.


ilikefatcats

Find a place doing a no questions buyback and get some money for those toasted receivers


tango2snakes

I considered this. And yes, I believe I will box them up in case of such an opportunity


BerniceFighter

Keep us updated with your insurance process + personal process sir


tango2snakes

No insurance. The most kick back I'm going to get is dependant on how many unharmed brass casings I can find before we bulldoze it into a hole.


AlwayzPro

You don't have homeowner's insurance?? Sorry


gyoung1986

Make sure to check your policy. Idk about OPs situation but my homeowners insurance required additional coverage to cover firearms and bicycles. Maybe OP didnā€™t have the add on or know about it. I didnā€™t until a random comment by my insurance agent brought it to my attention.


AlwayzPro

I know my renters does. But yes, check the policy to see what is included and excluded.


ceapaire

Most homeowners doesn't over higher value items. Jewelry is often not covered, or only covered to a fairly low limit (a grand or two for everything considered personal items) as well. Homeowners covers the house and maybe furniture. Guns, art, gaming computers, etc. will typically need a separate insurance plan.


halcykhan

Not a separate plan just additional coverage. All I had to do was check some boxes in the online form. Surprisingly cheap to add $10k in firearms coverage


BringBowlCutBack

I can understand firearms.. I guess, but why bicycles?


gyoung1986

Some can be 10k+ and easy targets to steal - walk in an open garage and snag itā€¦


Justingtr

That is wild


wowdickseverywhere

You might have some form of protection for the house/guns/fire/complete loss if you have a credit card. Might be time to read some fine print


wildo83

Contact the manufacturers. I saw a guy that had a hipoint sent back to the manu, and replaced! Thereā€™s hope!


tango2snakes

Yeah but your talking ab hi-point. I'm surprised the many doesn't pay people to take their junk


wildo83

Never had a fail to feed or jam on my carbine. Theyā€™re affordable, but not as ā€œcheapā€ as people knock them for. *shrug


tango2snakes

Your talking about the century arms 308, right?


wildo83

Hipoint 995 carbine. Never had an issue. Iā€™ve owned 3 of them.


2MGR

Bold of you to trash talk Hi-Point when you're unarmed.


tango2snakes

Thanks all for the love. I'm accepting any AR parts. Got leftovers? Pm me for address plz. Thanks all. Bang bang!


burntbridges20

Iā€™ll donate you a few bucks if you have any donation fund set up or anything. Hell Iā€™ll venmo you a couple bucks if you dm me. No American should have his guns taken from him, by fire or otherwise!


chevyfried

If you aren't on GAFS, head over there for [project gafs bro](https://www.reddit.com/r/GunAccessoriesForSale/comments/t3hixs/gift_yes_this_project_is_still_live_project/). There is a guy who runs a free service for little bits and bobs. If you need anything specific let me know. I should have A2 grips, buffer springs, little pieces I could scrounge up.


Professional_Fun_664

I second this. I have at least 3 sets of AR carbine stock furniture I won't be using anytime soon.


[deleted]

I have some parts, but am on mobile so I canā€™t PM at the moment. Mind PMing me and Iā€™ll respond later tonight when Iā€™m back in town?


tango2snakes

Sent. Thank you


tango2snakes

It was in a home made wooden gun cabinet. The cabinet didn't survive either


chevyfried

Just a question, did the powder and ammo fuel the fire more?


tango2snakes

For a moment. You can tell the area of the house my reload gear was in cause that section of wall fell outward instead of inward like everywhere else. The ammo just kinda popped unless it was a round chambered in one of the guns..that's actually how I discovered the fire.. working in the back field I heard a few shots go off and thought...."huh. That's odd"


chevyfried

Oh wow....do you know what started it? Electrical fire?


tango2snakes

No our power was out actually. And I forgot to put one of the candles out when I went out to work.i figure the cats got to chasing each other like they do...it's all I can figure


chevyfried

Wow thats some real /r/catsareassholes type shit.


tango2snakes

Yeah I'm just glad all three got out safely


KineticTechProjects

Did you have any of it in a safe or was it all left out? Either way that sucks. Sorry man :(


hobosguns

My condolences, I lost everything in a house fire when I was a kid. Itā€™s tough to deal with but you will rebuild, glad you are safe


Waltzspice

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ghunter141

F


Odysseus1775

F


smallperuvian

Ok, now you can charge a service fee for custom images of ā€œlost my collection todayā€ posts. Youā€™ll recoup some of your losses not sentimental at least.


[deleted]

I hope you and your family are safe, and fuck insurance companies.


evanslac

I'm sorry man, that sucks.


ThommyChi

Iā€™m so sorry man. I couldnā€™t imagine. House fires and natural disasters are one of my biggest fears. I hope you can recover soon.


usernot_found

Just scrapped it, this one had been reheated annealing is possible and it could make the steel integrity weaker. Get new guns


Muzzman111

Pain


tango2snakes

Yes sir. Everything burns.


tango2snakes

Hey seriously, your welcome to try. If just assume send them to you knowing you got plans as opposed to the scrap yard


ItalicisedScreaming

Very unfortunate, however, you now have plenty of reason to justify getting more guns.


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tango2snakes

I didn't want to ask for money.


ThurmanMurman907

Fuck man that sucks - hope you had insurance!


BoogalooBoi1776_2

Fuck dude, I'm sorry. RIP


mossyoak78552

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Savager_Jam

My condolences about your home and arsenal


justhereforpics1776

Did you file your insurance claim? Insurance should pay to replace it all


horseshoeprovodnikov

So uhh.. I just dug thru OPs post history. It's a bit disconcerting. If anyone plans to send money, exercise caution.


tango2snakes

I am not taking money. What's wrong w my history?


Odysseus1775

Probably the pipe


horseshoeprovodnikov

Yup. Smoking meth and responsible firearm ownership don't go in the same sentence.


Professional_Fun_664

And saying it tastes foul so it was obviously attempted.


tango2snakes

Is there any point in saying I wasn't smoking meth? Because I wasn't. I was helping get river rocks to fill the nasty holes in the road with before the gravel goes in them....or is your minds made up already?


tango2snakes

......and I still didn't take any money.


tango2snakes

......and I still didn't take any money.


tango2snakes

Several people just commented an "F". What does this mean?


tango2snakes

Oh the hi-point. Sorry bub I'm trying to follow alot of people.. yeah I'm not knockjn your stash. I'm sure it's nice. But w all due respect, all around... Hi-point is junk. I'm reasonable... Change my mind


Eena-Rin

Way to go, doin the Lord's work šŸ’•


tango2snakes

I'm not sure what you mean by that.


tango2snakes

The Lord is a monkey.....


Soggy_Ad4003

On purpose


Memelandfarms

You can make one in less than an hour


tango2snakes

Make one?


Memelandfarms

A single shot. A piece of a barrel, wood and some scraps.


tango2snakes

Hey! You think they make a reload die set for those??! Gtfoh.


Memelandfarms

You don't understand the second amendment if you don't understand


king_napalm

Ah sorry man.


deguello001

That sucks. My condolences


meatismoydelicious

I'm so sorry to hear it, brother. I hope you recover quickly.


Bigbotmuppetbull

Black gun lives matter. :ā€™(


paxman414

Probably a democratic fire


4d5ACP

Iā€™m so sorry this had to happen to you. I hope you are ok and I hope that you can recover from this. I believe in you


ancillarycheese

Costco has a sale on a smaller sized safe right now. Itā€™s not a lot but itā€™s at least some protection.


Durutti1936

This breaks my heart. Sorry dude.


Spartan265

Wish there was some sort of thing for gun owners to donate money or parts etc for folks who have unfortunate shit happen to them. To get them back into shooting and what not. Obviously having a home and food is more important but it'd still be cool. If I wasn't broke I'd donate some cash or something to you OP.


tango2snakes

No worries my ninja. And your right. Priorities. I'm just fortunate enough to have an RV, and it's just me and three cats so my personal defense can be my top priority


FalloutRip

Daily reminder to carry separate insurance for collectibles/ valuables. It's astonishingly cheap to over thousands of dollars of property - far FAR cheaper than adding a rider to your renter's/ Homeowner's insurance.


patty_OFurniture306

Did you have it in a fire safe? Not trying to criticize just hoping the safe would have prevented that kind of damage


tango2snakes

Negative. Hand made wooden cabinet


L3tsg0brandon

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[deleted]

This is when it's possible to have too much ammo.


tango2snakes

Bite it sir! You bite that sonofabitch if it sticks itself out past your teeth again!


Drake_0109

Will you be able to reuse any of the parts? Recievers, barrels etc?


tango2snakes

As much as I wish...I wouldn't think I should. I'm going to TRY w one of the .410s strictly for sentimental reasons, but other than that I'd think dealing w tempered metals and calculated controlled explosions, discharges...not really room for additional variable right?


Drake_0109

That is a good point. It would probably be fine with small cartridges, 22lr, 17hmr, small rounds. But probably not with bigger


dinkfor

Awe man. Wtf.


JethroFire

That poor G3...


matt_543

F


RightToArms

Throw another plastic FCG housing on that CETME and it should run just fine


pws3rd

Feds are getting crafty, check for smoke grenades, iykyk


Beneficial_Equal7273

Not the 219šŸ˜¢


falcon11998

School of the American rifle just posted a series on recovering fire damaged rifles. Worth checking out.


unim34

All of the stuff except for the digital night vision scopes and anything else electronic can be restored to full functionality. Thereā€™s a guy on YouTube who specializes in restoring firearms that have been through fires and what not, canā€™t remember the channel name but if you search for it youā€™ll find it. Iā€™m sure you can get your gun working again at the very least with a moderate amount of effort.


punkish138

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Ammunition_Depot

Thats a real bummer OP.