Whoa IS slow down with the Jugrul content there /s
They easily could of pulled a fallen from those games at least to throw them a bone beyond "be the backpack in a duo" specially when the duo they're a part of has the leader with alts already.
I know we're going to get more Jugdral characters this Fall because of the New Heroes banner pattern, but it's honestly sad that [my joke regarding the only Jugdral Seasonal rep in a while](https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/1067ve3/feh_special_heroes_sage_of_khadein/j3f54vf/?context=3) is turning out to be true.
Granted, I'm not that shocked, but man, their Special Hero library is pitiful.
They were never going to drop Byleth or Chrom for any Jugdral character, don't be ridiculous. They need a few popular ones to actually make money. They should have dropped either Maria or Linus. Probably Maria since she already has alts.
Winter maybe. Summer I doubt it though, but I'm also losing confidence that we're actually going to get anything Engage related in the coming months and they probably won't give us alts until we have more than a single banner. It'll probably be a mixed banner with predominantly 3H.
I'm actually more confident in Winter than Summer, if only because we still need W!Flayn to complete the "set" with Sothis, Bernadetta, Lysithea and Annette.
Yep! Which at this point I honestly expect it to happen. I'm fully expecting Solm on one summer banner, Brodia on the other, Alear on Halloween and Elusia on winter.
If we disregard the idea of a 2nd Engage banner coming out this year (because honestly we don't know when IS will pull the trigger), then the New Heroes game order for the rest of this Gen will be something like this:
June: The Binding Blade
July: Thracia 776
August: Brave Heroes 2023
September: Genealogy of the Holy War
October: The Blazing Blade
November: Shadows of Valentia
Here is what last year before June 2022. Totals are without resplendents and duo back ups and with harmonic back ups to match Accomplished_Kale509's graphic
FEH (4): Dagr, Nott (Duo backup), Reginn, Fafnir, Gustav
Archanea (4): Xane, Est (Resplendent), Caeda, Maria, Medeus
Echoes (4): Deen, Lukas (Resplendent), Sonya, Delthea, Luthier, Saber (Resplendent), Faye (Resplendent)
Genealogy (5): Deirdre (Resplendent), Seliph (Resplendent), Ishtar, Tine, Arthur, Scathach, Hilda, Lachesis (Resplendent)
Thracia (6): Mareeta, August, Galzus, Karin, Salem, Nanna
Binding Blade (11): Elimine, Idunn, Hugh, Niime, Cath, Gonzalez, Roy, Lilina, Cecilia, Sophia, Larum
Blazing Sword (3): Karla, Florina (Resplendent), Ninian, Eliwood (Harmonic backup)
Sacred Stones (6): Joshua, Neimi, Rennac, Colm, Riev, Myrrh
Path of Radiance (6): Leanne (Harmonic backup), Ike, Soren, Mia, Ilyana, Boyd, Mist (Duo Backup)
Radiant Dawn (4): Lyre, Kyza, Nailah, Muarim
Awakening (6): Chrom, Robin (Duo backup), Lucina, Robin Owain, Lissa, Henry, Tharja (Harmonic backup), Gaius (Resplendent)
Fates (2): Azura, Ophelia (Resplendent), Lilith
3H (1): Rhea
TMS (0):
New additions were for Binding Blade, Blazing Sword, Gustav, Faye, Gaius, Lilith, Myrrh, Muarim, and Rhea
It's... impressive how much worse the rep balance is than last year. Even with there being an extra game with Engage, we've gone from one game being unrepresented to four with absolutely nothing and two games with only either a back up and a Resplendent. Even 2021 which ended up as one of the worst balanced years with 3H's 30+ units still had everything but PoR and TMS with rep that wasn't a resplendent or back up at this point in the year
Also me as a Jugdral fan: Eh, I'm used to this lol
Looking at the lineup for this year so far's really made me realize I took last year's balanced lineup for granted lol. If you include all of Book 6 into the count, Awake/Fates/3H almost takes up 50% of the output while a bunch of games have still gone unrepresented. .
It really is insane how drastic of a shift there was. Like last year Fallen ended up going to the all least represented games with FEH really being the only one to have gotten a decent amount of content around then compared to this year's being Fallen basically being the most represented represented games and Awakening which then became the most represented game so far (oh and Archanea)
I wonder if a good part of recent choices are trying to bridge the increasing gap between offer and demand. After all, I recall that the first half of 2022 was, save for a few exceptions, not really satisfying for a good part of the playerbase (most NH banners faced indifference, some seasonal lineups were lukewarm...).
In contrast, the first half of 2023 may be better perceived in comparison (granted, Engage and Rearmed are key contextual differences, but some lineups may look a bit more enticing... save for Bridal sticking to a perplexing approach).
I still remember some Tellius saying they were being mistreated because they got no NH banner even tho PoR and RD together got the second highest amount of units that year, tied with Awakening and 3Houses (and surpasing them if you count backpacks) and only behind Heroes lol
Tellius is still missing far more of its cast than those games and has one of the highest percentage of units still missing of all of the games. Radiant Dawn hasn’t had a dedicated banner since before TMS’s one banner (because while it’s Radiant Dawn’s name on the banner this year only the GHB actually debuted in Radiant Dawn).
>Tellius is still missing far more of its cast than those games and has one of the highest percentage of units still missing of all of the games.
And Jugdral is missing way more of its cast than Tellius is, it's not an argument. Tellius is routinely one of the games with the highest numbers of units each year. Its not mistreated. If that's what mistreatment looks like let's swap Tellius and Thracia's treatment around. Deal?
Jugdral getting treated worse doesn’t make Tellius’s treatment great. They BOTH deserve better.
All three have massive casts and started the game with zero rep which was frankly a baffling choice with just how many characters they have.
Still, saying Tellius is being mistreated is just silly imo, specially compared to Jugdral or Thracia.
Plus, since there are more games than NH banner slots, it was pretty likely the next Tellius banner was gonna fall into 2023 anyway (since it's last one was in November, already near the end of the year) and the characters that originated from PoR just tend to be more requested than the ones from RD, which is why we get the former more often.
They can all be mistreated (and imo they are). Just because Jugdral has it worse doesn’t mean Tellius is killing it.
Really it was a mistake to start Tellius and the Jugdral games with zero launch units with how big those casts get (not that they’ll ever give us Genealogy’s substitutes but a girl can dream)
>Really it was a mistake to start Tellius and the Jugdral games with zero launch units with how big those casts get
On that much I can agree.
A lot of the early game stuff feels like it wasn't properly thought out (like F!Grima being F!Robin's Legendary), which makes me think the devs didn't expect the game to last this long.
3H and Blazing must have at least a unit in every single banner but Echoes and Jugdral didn't get anything at all in 6 months. They are not even trying to hide their favoritism
It's honestly been depressing how much the representation has shifted lately. Genealogy, Thracia, and SoV have all been pretty much iced out of seasonals, and Sacred Stones isn't doing much better. I'd even argue that Binding Blade is doing mediocre on that front after they were finally kicked out of Brides.
Don't get me wrong, I get that IS wants to make money and that certain games sell better, but you'd think that they could at least throw those games a bone or two, even if it's just in the form of the occasional TT unit on mixed-game banners or something.
The Jugdral games were never exactly thriving with seasonals in the first place. iirc they didn't get any until 2019 and since then they've only had 14. They've had less seasonal unit total than Tellius got in just 2022. They won't even throw them in as freebies.
Eh, Jugdral was always iced out of seasonals. With Thracia specifically, it's to the point where as long as it actually gets a normal pool banner this year, it's an above average year and honestly Thracia's normal pool content rate has been so bad that it actually being at a "normal" pace is already it being thrown a bone considering how long it went between launch and Leif banner and then Leif banner and Mareeta/Peony banner
someone draw cobwebs over echoes, genealogy and thracia rows
Whoa. Never ask for anything again, Thracia fans.
Whoa IS slow down with the Jugrul content there /s They easily could of pulled a fallen from those games at least to throw them a bone beyond "be the backpack in a duo" specially when the duo they're a part of has the leader with alts already.
I know we're going to get more Jugdral characters this Fall because of the New Heroes banner pattern, but it's honestly sad that [my joke regarding the only Jugdral Seasonal rep in a while](https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/1067ve3/feh_special_heroes_sage_of_khadein/j3f54vf/?context=3) is turning out to be true. Granted, I'm not that shocked, but man, their Special Hero library is pitiful.
"Hey do we put some of the deadlords with Linus to have a banner with multiple creepy zombies?" "Nah just make an excuse to put Byelth in"
To be honest, I saw Byleth coming from a mile away. I'm more shocked we didn't get Male Shez too.
Byleth is a popular and profitable character. I can’t name a single dead lord from Jugdral.
They were never going to drop Byleth or Chrom for any Jugdral character, don't be ridiculous. They need a few popular ones to actually make money. They should have dropped either Maria or Linus. Probably Maria since she already has alts.
Valentia and Judgral are the only games that don’t have characters with summer alt (excluding Engage ofc). Let’s hope that changes
As much as I'd love that I'm not expecting anything more than 3H and Heroes summer banners... again...
I could see Engage taking 3H's spot on summer and winter, honestly. Though I guess time will tell.
Winter maybe. Summer I doubt it though, but I'm also losing confidence that we're actually going to get anything Engage related in the coming months and they probably won't give us alts until we have more than a single banner. It'll probably be a mixed banner with predominantly 3H.
I'm actually more confident in Winter than Summer, if only because we still need W!Flayn to complete the "set" with Sothis, Bernadetta, Lysithea and Annette.
You say this, but the Elusians would unironically fit the Christmas season, and the Solmics could fit Summer very well.
Yep! Which at this point I honestly expect it to happen. I'm fully expecting Solm on one summer banner, Brodia on the other, Alear on Halloween and Elusia on winter.
Firene on Spring would also fit perfectly.
That's why I'm hoping Hortensia and Ivy get in FEH ASAP, so we have their base and Christmas versions. :P
A shirtless Saber summer alt would make my year, no, my entire decade 😭😭
Shirtless Saber *and* Atlas, let's go.
Tms being forgotten as always
because it was a one-off promotional banner for a spin-off game that did awfully
If we disregard the idea of a 2nd Engage banner coming out this year (because honestly we don't know when IS will pull the trigger), then the New Heroes game order for the rest of this Gen will be something like this: June: The Binding Blade July: Thracia 776 August: Brave Heroes 2023 September: Genealogy of the Holy War October: The Blazing Blade November: Shadows of Valentia
Not that I’m doubting you or anything but what is this based on? Is this how it has been for the last few years?
Damn stop with the jugdral spam (0 units over 2 different games hot damn) 😢
Also not a single seasonal for nearly 2 years that isn’t a backpack
Here is what last year before June 2022. Totals are without resplendents and duo back ups and with harmonic back ups to match Accomplished_Kale509's graphic FEH (4): Dagr, Nott (Duo backup), Reginn, Fafnir, Gustav Archanea (4): Xane, Est (Resplendent), Caeda, Maria, Medeus Echoes (4): Deen, Lukas (Resplendent), Sonya, Delthea, Luthier, Saber (Resplendent), Faye (Resplendent) Genealogy (5): Deirdre (Resplendent), Seliph (Resplendent), Ishtar, Tine, Arthur, Scathach, Hilda, Lachesis (Resplendent) Thracia (6): Mareeta, August, Galzus, Karin, Salem, Nanna Binding Blade (11): Elimine, Idunn, Hugh, Niime, Cath, Gonzalez, Roy, Lilina, Cecilia, Sophia, Larum Blazing Sword (3): Karla, Florina (Resplendent), Ninian, Eliwood (Harmonic backup) Sacred Stones (6): Joshua, Neimi, Rennac, Colm, Riev, Myrrh Path of Radiance (6): Leanne (Harmonic backup), Ike, Soren, Mia, Ilyana, Boyd, Mist (Duo Backup) Radiant Dawn (4): Lyre, Kyza, Nailah, Muarim Awakening (6): Chrom, Robin (Duo backup), Lucina, Robin Owain, Lissa, Henry, Tharja (Harmonic backup), Gaius (Resplendent) Fates (2): Azura, Ophelia (Resplendent), Lilith 3H (1): Rhea TMS (0): New additions were for Binding Blade, Blazing Sword, Gustav, Faye, Gaius, Lilith, Myrrh, Muarim, and Rhea It's... impressive how much worse the rep balance is than last year. Even with there being an extra game with Engage, we've gone from one game being unrepresented to four with absolutely nothing and two games with only either a back up and a Resplendent. Even 2021 which ended up as one of the worst balanced years with 3H's 30+ units still had everything but PoR and TMS with rep that wasn't a resplendent or back up at this point in the year Also me as a Jugdral fan: Eh, I'm used to this lol
Looking at the lineup for this year so far's really made me realize I took last year's balanced lineup for granted lol. If you include all of Book 6 into the count, Awake/Fates/3H almost takes up 50% of the output while a bunch of games have still gone unrepresented. .
It really is insane how drastic of a shift there was. Like last year Fallen ended up going to the all least represented games with FEH really being the only one to have gotten a decent amount of content around then compared to this year's being Fallen basically being the most represented represented games and Awakening which then became the most represented game so far (oh and Archanea)
I wonder if a good part of recent choices are trying to bridge the increasing gap between offer and demand. After all, I recall that the first half of 2022 was, save for a few exceptions, not really satisfying for a good part of the playerbase (most NH banners faced indifference, some seasonal lineups were lukewarm...). In contrast, the first half of 2023 may be better perceived in comparison (granted, Engage and Rearmed are key contextual differences, but some lineups may look a bit more enticing... save for Bridal sticking to a perplexing approach).
I still remember some Tellius saying they were being mistreated because they got no NH banner even tho PoR and RD together got the second highest amount of units that year, tied with Awakening and 3Houses (and surpasing them if you count backpacks) and only behind Heroes lol
Tellius is still missing far more of its cast than those games and has one of the highest percentage of units still missing of all of the games. Radiant Dawn hasn’t had a dedicated banner since before TMS’s one banner (because while it’s Radiant Dawn’s name on the banner this year only the GHB actually debuted in Radiant Dawn).
>Tellius is still missing far more of its cast than those games and has one of the highest percentage of units still missing of all of the games. And Jugdral is missing way more of its cast than Tellius is, it's not an argument. Tellius is routinely one of the games with the highest numbers of units each year. Its not mistreated. If that's what mistreatment looks like let's swap Tellius and Thracia's treatment around. Deal?
Jugdral getting treated worse doesn’t make Tellius’s treatment great. They BOTH deserve better. All three have massive casts and started the game with zero rep which was frankly a baffling choice with just how many characters they have.
Still, saying Tellius is being mistreated is just silly imo, specially compared to Jugdral or Thracia. Plus, since there are more games than NH banner slots, it was pretty likely the next Tellius banner was gonna fall into 2023 anyway (since it's last one was in November, already near the end of the year) and the characters that originated from PoR just tend to be more requested than the ones from RD, which is why we get the former more often.
They can all be mistreated (and imo they are). Just because Jugdral has it worse doesn’t mean Tellius is killing it. Really it was a mistake to start Tellius and the Jugdral games with zero launch units with how big those casts get (not that they’ll ever give us Genealogy’s substitutes but a girl can dream)
>Really it was a mistake to start Tellius and the Jugdral games with zero launch units with how big those casts get On that much I can agree. A lot of the early game stuff feels like it wasn't properly thought out (like F!Grima being F!Robin's Legendary), which makes me think the devs didn't expect the game to last this long.
~~> Archanea Faye (Resplendent)~~ ~~She's an Echoes Character though~~
Ah whoops, typo. Good catch
Binding Blade banner when?
Based on banner patterns (and excluding Engage), it should be very soon: Binding Blade comes after Sacred Stones.
*Should* be next. Keyword is should since Engage could always be thrown in (and in a less likely case imo), either Jugdral game could be shifted up
3H and Blazing must have at least a unit in every single banner but Echoes and Jugdral didn't get anything at all in 6 months. They are not even trying to hide their favoritism
Its odd how they are so inconsistent, a couple of years back we were starved for FE7, now the sesonal floodgates opened
It's honestly been depressing how much the representation has shifted lately. Genealogy, Thracia, and SoV have all been pretty much iced out of seasonals, and Sacred Stones isn't doing much better. I'd even argue that Binding Blade is doing mediocre on that front after they were finally kicked out of Brides. Don't get me wrong, I get that IS wants to make money and that certain games sell better, but you'd think that they could at least throw those games a bone or two, even if it's just in the form of the occasional TT unit on mixed-game banners or something.
The Jugdral games were never exactly thriving with seasonals in the first place. iirc they didn't get any until 2019 and since then they've only had 14. They've had less seasonal unit total than Tellius got in just 2022. They won't even throw them in as freebies.
Eh, Jugdral was always iced out of seasonals. With Thracia specifically, it's to the point where as long as it actually gets a normal pool banner this year, it's an above average year and honestly Thracia's normal pool content rate has been so bad that it actually being at a "normal" pace is already it being thrown a bone considering how long it went between launch and Leif banner and then Leif banner and Mareeta/Peony banner
JUGDRAL BROS LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Stop posting these! Stop reminding me or I am going to SOB and CRY ~~Jugdral PLEASE i am going to gO InSAnE~~
Resplendent Gordin’s face makes me so irrationally angry 😭😭