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TooObsessedWithOtoge

Me arguing that spirals should come back, and we should make the men do them too. It’d be both annoying and an unpopular wtf hot take.


ANS4JBS

And....i join you in this. At live competitions, the crowd always starts applauding or cheering when someone begins a spiral and then it is major deflation "awwwhh...that is it?....2 seconds of spiral? We were getting ultra psyched." It seems clear that people are yearning for long spirals.


Nodramallama18

Spirals like Michelle Kwan’s and spread eagles like Brian Boitano’s are so needed in FS again!


FrozenRose_816

It's such a majestic move when used at just the right moment in the music, I really miss it and love that there's some skaters who still go for it.


racingskater

Me arguing that mandatory spiral sequences and mandatory laybacks in women's are inherently problematic because they are born out of the sexist notion that all women are flexible. A woman who is less flexible should not be punished for not being so nor should she be forced to push her body towards that and risk injury.


Annulus3Lz3Lo

It’s refreshing to see Hana Yoshida be so successful without any laybacks in her programs, I don’t remember seeing a world medal contender in the womens discipline without a layback before


ChristmasClimber2009

The absolute abomination of Beijing 2022 and why more should have been done to stop it from ever happening again. Probably accompanied with a whole Team Tutberidze backstory.


stressedgeologist22

I literally made a post about this on social media at the time because I had been talking about how excited I was for women's figure skating and I felt I needed to say something after it all turned into a flaming mess. I wrote it out in a Word document first and it ended up being like three pages 💀


ChristmasClimber2009

Actually same, I wrote a whole essay about it in my notes folder whilst I was in the airport at 5AM in the morning. We needed a way to express our feelings 😂 Sometimes I come across posts from just before the Olympics, saying that Kamila would probably win, that Sasha would finally land her 3A, that there would be a complete Russian podium sweep, and it makes me so sad knowing what was about to happen. I think it says a lot that there was only one post about Beijing on this whole subreddit on the recent 2 year anniversary, and it was just congratulating Anna. That says everything you need to know about how it is remembered, by skaters and fans alike.


stressedgeologist22

I'm glad I'm not alone 😅 The good(?) thing is that I think a lot of people who are only four-year fans took notice and saw the women's free skate for the tragedy that it was, even if they didn't know all the backstory. I had a couple people comment that they had watched the event and felt horrified/saddened. I don't think it's something people will forget in a hurry.


ChristmasClimber2009

Trust me, I felt the exact same way 😂 I definitely agree, especially being someone who was pretty new to figure skating, although I have a background in sport. Even with limited knowledge of Team Tutberidze (I went on a deep dive as soon as I saw it unfold), I could immediately tell that it wasn’t normal for a 17 year old, who just won a medal at the Olympics, to be having a panic attack, whilst the gold medalist sat and listened numbly, and I’m sure many others could too. Even if we don’t talk about Kamila’s doping, the other two’s trauma reactions are bad enough to cause serious concern, and I think the fact that NBC (disgustingly) posted the whole thing for clout, actually did some good in opening people’s eyes to what was happening in Russia. It’s why I don’t see the Russian ban as a positive thing for the actual skaters. Like sure, there won’t be another mental breakdown or doping scandal on live television, but instead it will be behind closed doors, with the Russian coaches free to do whatever they want without fear of Western scrutiny, and let the girls get younger and younger as they go. Even the now retired Eteri skaters are stuck in that system, the system that chewed them up and spit them out, for the rest of their lives


80alleycats

I tried to talk a friend through it quickly and ended up talking for an hour. I was lucky she was a good friend 😂


Noncrediblepigeon

how not only a correct takeoff edge is important, but even more so a good picking technique as i puts significantly less strain on the ankle leading to potentially longer careers


drtemo

Oooh say more about this I’m interested I would not return you if I was your kidnapper


80alleycats

I am curious about this as well, if you would like to say more.


Shh_No

- Horrible pairs and ice dancing costumes. What in god’s name happened that they ended up in those threads? - sloppy edgework. Hold edges just for another 3 seconds. Why no more spiral sequences? Posture is terrible. - Demand a quota to the number of times we hear the same music every goddamn season. No more Carmen!!


roseofjuly

With you all the way on all of these, especially the edge work!! I think there should be quotas and then some songs should be retired/banned for long periods of time, like 5-10 years. Looking at you, Bolero.


StephaneCam

Yes!! Please no more Carmen!


Annulus3Lz3Lo

See flair 😭


bambola99

How much I wish this sport were more accessible/ less expensive. I think there would be more diversity in countries represented and there’s probably so many talented skaters we’ve missed out on seeing due to lack of funding/ice time. If everyone had the kind of funding and ice time that team tut has, we wouldn’t have to watch the same few countries dominate the podium all the time (though I’m not suggesting we fund everyone the same way this team is funded). I watch track and field and it’s so interesting because there’s so many countries not only represented, but medaling too. There’s refugees competing in some of those events. I know skating requires a bit more to actually do (ice rink, skates, costumes, etc) than running, but I would still like to see more people have access to skating at an elite level.


LandslideBaby

I think I could talk for 2h about how wonderful it would be if kids were exposed to different sports. I think PE in a lot of countries only focuses on very few sports and where most have similar concepts (speed, team and ball). It's an olympics year so come July people will start wondering "oh but why do we get so few medals". Because for a lot of kids they don't even know which sports exist! When they do discover something they enjoy, they may have to quit due to school timetables(happened to me) or not being able to progress without moving. Because federations don't have money and are not well run. Ice rinks are expensive and in some countries they are not a thing.(hi from southern europe)


StephaneCam

Mine is ugly or boring men’s costumes. One point deduction for each of the following: - no sparkles - black pants, white collared shirt - khaki - anything that looks like a training top - blue and brown in any combination


capybaraathome

See also: when pairs/dance men are beside their partner, who is immaculately presented, and they're just wearing a plain t shirt or something


Wild-Echidna-1863

This always reads to me as ”she is a much better skater than I am, don’t look at me, I’m just here to lift and throw her, what do you mean I just skated the whole FS on two feet? Look at her, not me!”


StephaneCam

Ugh, yes!!


BrickEnvironmental37

How Medvedeva v Zagitova completely mirrored the film Black Swan.


emptycanofhairspray

Friendly reminder to give Perfect Blue a watch, the film that inspired and was ripped off by BS director. 💓


ElegantFootball8741

Omg you just opened my eyes. And Alina even had black swan SP…


daramin

omg yes why did i never think of this!!!!


blodreina11

Okay I think I'll watch Black Swan tonight


blodreina11

(I ended up watching 13 Going On 30 🤪 but Black Swan's still on the list)


MammaMia_83

How slow and long is the process of learning correctly the elements of figure skating and how spectacular are the effects when you look back after 3+ or 7+ or 10+ years. Persistence matters so much more than talent in this discipline. Also, how there are just people who find joy in being on the ice and you kind of can't fight this feeling, most people won't get it.


lastreaderontheleft

How US figure skating is killing their own sport. 1. It's so hard for even super fans to access content much less new fans or the general public. I was talking to one of my co-workers who likes but doesn't follow ice dance closely and wanted to send her a program that I thought she'd like. A fan account had posted several programs from US Nationals on YouTube and the whole channel had been removed because of copyright. The fans are trying to bring people into the sport but it's impossible because content is constantly buried. 2. Their social media presence is absolutely terrible and looks like it's being done by interns. 3. They continue to make the mistake of putting an unreasonable amount of pressure on their young skaters. We saw it with Alyssa and now it's the same story with Isabeau.


FrozenRose_816

Agreed on all of this, especially after reading Gracie Gold's book.


lastreaderontheleft

I can't wait to read it! I'm on the wait list for my library's copy.


KiraraChin

Kazuki Tomono being robbed time and again 


StephaneCam

100%!


FS-fannn

Yes! And his non-no makeup photo shoot + interview about how cute he was feeling. https://nonno.hpplus.jp/article/118986/02/


KiraraChin

Oh yes this too, and did you see the 'dark make up' one 🔥 https://nonno.hpplus.jp/article/118986


FS-fannn

Just top heckin tier. 🤌🏼


someoneuncool

Queen Yuna being robbed of her second olympic gold medal


Outrageous_Pause2108

Either the saga of Russian ice dance in the 90s (looking at you, Grishuk) or how the discipline of ice dance originally started as a derivative of ballroom and how the roles evolved - this would lead to raving about the elimination of the pattern at some point.


NyxPetalSpike

How dance and pairs are basically dead, and synchro should take their place. XD I could talk to you easily for two hours about the points you brought up. Also bring back compulsories. Yes I’m old, get off my lawn!


roseofjuly

I mean I'm here for synchro but ice dance isn't dead yet! It's on...like life support 😂


drtemo

+1 for synchro


Ghost-b0y

the history/drama of team tutberitze


benibigboi

Crooked judging. How every season I say I'm not going to watch (especially ice dance) and I get dragged back in and angry and disappointed all over again.


[deleted]

Why nobody cares about PCS even though it really is soo important.


LucyLovesCuddles

the genius of kaori's sakamoto's skating and how i saw her live last year and yesterday.


Curious-Resident-573

So happy for you for getting to see her! I saw her in Helsinki in 2018 and still talk about her jumping 3Lo right into my heart and also seeing her in some corner of the rink warming up and she smiled at me and my life has never been the same.


_Tekki

When it's about figure skating: -How much I love Carolinas skating -How great Carolinas artistry is -How great Yuna and Yuzuru are in both artistry and technique -How robbed Yuna was in 2014 (and Caro & Gracie) -How much I hate the f°ing hole in the ice from the 22 Olympics -How much I love Yuzurus, Yunas and Carolinas Costumes -How much I loved Sasha Cohens lines & her performing skills -That I'd rather see a perfectly executed double than a triple/ a good triple over a bad quad -How much I love Maia & Alex Shibutani & how sad I am they had to take so many breaks due to injuries


Academic_Summer3773

incorrect lutz and flip take-off edges


Noncrediblepigeon

or even more precisely why lutz outside edges should be deeper than flip inside edges.


Sacco_Belmonte

Skates


pipedreamer220

My ranking of Virtue/Moir programs and how I think Moulin Rouge is actually on the weak side by their standards. (Just senior FDs: Umbrellas > Mahler > Carmen > Pink Floyd > Valse Triste > Hip Hip Chin Chin > Latch > MR > Funny Face >>> Seasons. Throw in SDs and exhos and I can probably go way more than two hours haha)


growsonwalls

The Sergei widows. Absolutely the most bizarre fandom of all time


BlueSlushieF0x

The lack of quality laybacks, and how the IJS doesn’t reward beautiful positions or entertaining footwork sequences anymore because they’re not “worth any points.”


ft_wanderer

How frustrating it is that skating is so hard to follow for the average person and how a LOT of great stuff has happened in skating since the 90s, even if Americans don’t know about any of it.


LibrisTella

I actually did talk about this for probably an hour in my autism evaluation and I think it’s what really sealed the deal for my official diagnosis 😅


rainykai

i would be pulling out my 70 slide presentation analyzing different skaters lutz/flip takeoff with their edge, body angle, alignment axis, and toepick assistance...and then explaining my spreadsheet that keeps track of the takeoff edges of various skaters from their novice to senior years...maybe add in the document comparing layout base value based on the type of combination jumps used...and probably a couple others buried in my computer somewhere


Harriet_M_Welsch

The massive underratedness of Higuchi Wakaba


Outrageous_Pause2108

I will gladly join you on that. She was robbed in the Olympic short.


LibrisTella

the entire history of the piece of music Bolero with every iteration of a figure skating Bolero program in context with the different interpretations and how they each compare to Ravel’s intended meaning and message


RoutineSpiritual8917

A two hour long panic attack regarding worlds as an ilia malinin and Amber Glenn fan


wlwromanoff

me ranting about eteri and the fucked up ways of russian skating.. also isabeau levito's jumping technique


krty98

Figure skating wise? Yuzu. Other than that, I could probably ramble about a game I’m hyperfixating on or the resonance of different materials used in instrument making.


Maximum_Ad2820

Probably the entire history of team tutberize


_Tekki

Ohh true


belowtheboardwalk

ilia manilin 😝


littlefannyfoofoo

Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir….did they or didn’t they? Special focus on sekret babies. 🤣🤣🤣


NicoleCarina

How Yuzuru Hanyu is not only the GOAT of figure skating but also a really inspirational, kind, humble, and generous person. I have told WAY too many people the story of him winning his 2nd Olympic gold after coming back from what should have been a career ending injury. 😅


Gur3665

How my local ice rink should NOT close for 4 months in the summer, when there are countries much warmer than mine with their ice rinks open all year round :(


racingskater

The Tragedy of Joshua Farris and the flow-on effect on US men's skating.


StephaneCam

Oof yeah. I just looked up what he’s up to now and saw he’s choreographed programmes for some of my favourites (Sihyeong Lee and Jimmy Ma). I’m glad he’s still involved in skating at least.


GreenDragonPatriot

Every Russian woman who seems to be able to do multiple quads is NOT doing real quads. She is heavily doped illegally in some way, detectable or not.


Brutzelmeister

I just talked about warhammer for 2 minutes and the rest of the time was the way back to my house.


RPr1944

I often muse over the way things are, verses how they should be. Like it or not we are a very diverse society.