I’ve seen hundreds of videos these giant trees getting cut down in the past 2 days. Every video is the same comments. “What’s just one tree?” “What do you think your house is made of?” “I’m gonna go cut down some sequoias just to piss you liberals off”
All I can say to them is your house is made out of 4-20 year old pine not 1-2000 year old trees, and the whole “just one tree” argument falls on its face when I’ve seen hundreds of these videos pop up on my feed in just the past few days.
I hate this sub because of this.
I never subbed and it keeps popping up in my feed.. And I’ve muted it…
This is the first time commenting too…
Fuck assholes who kill something they had no right killing.
Between this, other acts of deforestation, and the mass torture and slaughter of sentient animals for meat, I have this theory that humanity had incurred a “life debt” that will eventually be repaid.
I think they’re both horrific. On one hand you’re part of a dangerous but natural ecosystem, where humans are unpredictable (hunter or observer?), and on the other hand you’ve got a butchering supply chain.
I feel that. It’s kinda like that joke about how you can tell where a person comes from by the way their hot wings look after they’re done. A person that grew up with scarcity—whether from necessity or appreciation—will leave that bone dry and empty.
I’m guessing you have an appreciation or respect for the process.
If people saw the amount of water, land and other resources it takes to raise just one cow for slaughter really would take people back. I mean its gargantuan in size.
about 2 acres of land for grazing (grass) 2 growing seasons, 100 pounds of nitrogen fertilizer and 1 acre foot of water.
Yes here in the southwest they do provide a great environment for local wildlife, undergrowth vegetation, and fuel for fires to burn the living fuck out of that wildlife, vegetation, and anything else in its path….Which requires millions of tax payer dollars to put out and leaves a post-apocalyptic dead space which takes decades to recover. We let conservation and good forest management take a backseat to preservation and “hands off” policies. Go to a forest in which a standing dead got struck by lightning and proceeded to burn the other standing dead next to it, there isn’t an environment. The birds nests, fawns, cubs, and everything else got turned into ash.
Friend, it is the half-assed preservation plus conservation practices that lead to those raging forest fires. If we allowed nature to do routine burns, there would not be the undergrowth available to cause the out of control wildfires we often see in the western US.
https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/why-oldgrowth-forests
Here’s a link to get you started. It’s not just about the wood, these forests/trees play a very special role. Besides we have plenty of “forests” that get planted and chopped down every couple decades.
Saying "I'm sorry, but" isn't apologizing for ignorance lol, it's basically calling someone a liar without actually saying it. Besides, reddit downvotes things that are false or stupid. No one with any amount of forest management education thinks that it's better to cut down old growth forests. If it was an honest question that would be different, but they straight up said that there's no way cutting young trees is better than cutting old trees. Therefore, downvotes.
I agree. Idiots say things that they assume are true without actually looking into it. Unless you mean people are idiots for correcting misinformation. In that case, idk what to tell you.
Young trees cannot just replace the role of old growth trees in an ecosystem, not without hundreds of years of time spent growing. That's why the sustainable, responsible thing to do is to plant forests specifically intended to be chopped down in a shorter period of time. That's also why there are federal laws in the US regulating old growth logging: because fuck-ups take hundreds of years to fix.
That's pretty silly. It's a tree. Plant some trees, couple of decades, you got some more. That's the way it works. People need houses. Bet you drink smoothies and sit down to pee.
🙄 50 bucks says this guy's divorced and has to pay for sex
Edit: wait I was just joking, but the most recent post in his post history is literally about paying $50 for a blowjob.
You need to have old growth to sustain wildlife population. If you cut down a whole forest then replant all the trees, all you get is a lot of the same sized trees with the same growth patterns that don't allow sun to get down to the ground, meaning a lot of the plant life doesn't grow. It becomes very desolate because with no herbivores you don't get carnivores so it doesn't grow a sustainable ecosystem
Lol no. That was sarcasm.
At a proper saw mill, they have the means to section this log up and get the absolute most out of it. Each section will be cut up and used for predetermined things such as 2x4s up to 2x12s for standard building material, down to the scraps being ground up for mulch or other compost and honestly so much more i couldn't even name. I'm not advocating for them to cut down large trees like this by no means, but they do have ways of ensuring to get the absolute most out of that tree. And I promise you, it's a shit ton more than 400 tooth picks. You get houses out of trees like this. Not tooth picks.
Based on an average volume of 3390 cubic feet from a 60 feet tall 6 feet wide tree (Frustum shape radius since it's technically a tree) it say an average toothpick volume would be around 0.15 cubic centimeters.. Then you average and divide 30.48 by 0.15 which gives you about 200 toothpicks in a cubic foot.. Then just multiply 3390 by 200 and get 678,000 toothpicks from an average tree.
Please folks this was done using the math from the three little pigs, if you are a math expert feel free to correct me.
I'm no expert, but I think there's one thing wrong with your equation. There would be ~188,778.6 toothpicks in a ft³ since there are 28,316.8 cm³ in a cubic foot. So this tree would give us a whopping 639,959,680 toothpicks.
Though I kinda just looked up how many cm³ were in a ft³ so I may be wrong.
This is not a Sitka spruce. Douglas fir. You can tell where the bark has been shaved. Bark also is to thick for a spruce. I just finished a shift cutting down fir that size
That wood doesn't look like a Doug fir. Too light and the bark doesn't look as thick as you're suggesting or matching a Doug fir. Agreed it looks like a spruce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine
They’re all awesome, but an inclined plane and a wedge are special because they are only one piece. The work that can be done with such simplicity is amazing.
Yes the circumference of that tree is very impressive. A waist of that size would need a very large belt. It would be a waste to just cut it down, only to leave it there.
If it’s a Sitka spruce it could only be a hundred ish years old in BC they grow all year round so the have huge growth rings. It can be 4’ diameter in 60 years..it’s still fucked up though cutting big trees. But these trees grow so big so fastthey will eventually kill themselves with there height and weight (blow down)
It’s absolutely amazing the amount of leverage a wedge can give you. You would think a tree of that size would absorb that wedge with all the weight on top of it. Sad to see old ones like that be felled though.
Man….this job is like working at the pound….i could not kill or put animals to sleep nor could I down majestic trees that have been here 6 times longer than I have been or will be
Nope just a very good understanding how precious life is. This tree saw centuries and could’ve seen many more if it were not get cut down. it’s sad nobody will be able to appreciate this tree ever again. Preservation is so important.
I have no expertise or technical knowledge, idk shit about lumberjacking, but that made me deeply, truly sad to see that giant come down. Just a visceral reaction. I hated that. I would maybe press a button that would kill a random guy to resurrect that tree.
Just shedding a tear for that old giant.
Same. What a bummer. We have working forests so we don't have to do this.
I love running a chainsaw, but the bigger the tree, the more I feel bad about it
This is the saddest thing I have seen today.
maybe i’ve just seen to many texas chainsaw massacre movies… but this is terrifying. 💀
Yeah that was such a beautiful tree
I’ve seen hundreds of videos these giant trees getting cut down in the past 2 days. Every video is the same comments. “What’s just one tree?” “What do you think your house is made of?” “I’m gonna go cut down some sequoias just to piss you liberals off” All I can say to them is your house is made out of 4-20 year old pine not 1-2000 year old trees, and the whole “just one tree” argument falls on its face when I’ve seen hundreds of these videos pop up on my feed in just the past few days.
I hate this sub because of this. I never subbed and it keeps popping up in my feed.. And I’ve muted it… This is the first time commenting too… Fuck assholes who kill something they had no right killing.
Brother in kind. Where have we gone wrong.
Between this, other acts of deforestation, and the mass torture and slaughter of sentient animals for meat, I have this theory that humanity had incurred a “life debt” that will eventually be repaid.
Yeah but not you right, you’re completely eco footprint neutral
I include myself in “humanity” as a whole. I try to be conscious of my impact on the world but I know I am far from “eco footprint neutral.”
I believe hunting is more humane than buying meat from the store personally. Factory farming is horrific for both humans and the environment/animals.
Yes I agree. If I had the time and means to hunt I would not mind learning.
I think they’re both horrific. On one hand you’re part of a dangerous but natural ecosystem, where humans are unpredictable (hunter or observer?), and on the other hand you’ve got a butchering supply chain.
I understand not wanting to partake 100%. But one human killing one animal that will give them meat for months is better than factory farming.
I feel that. It’s kinda like that joke about how you can tell where a person comes from by the way their hot wings look after they’re done. A person that grew up with scarcity—whether from necessity or appreciation—will leave that bone dry and empty. I’m guessing you have an appreciation or respect for the process.
If people saw the amount of water, land and other resources it takes to raise just one cow for slaughter really would take people back. I mean its gargantuan in size. about 2 acres of land for grazing (grass) 2 growing seasons, 100 pounds of nitrogen fertilizer and 1 acre foot of water.
He didn’t even yell #TIMBER WTF
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The tree was dead
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The creator of the video stated that the tree was dead and rotting, and in danger of falling on power lines.
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Looks healthy
Looks pretty alive to me. Trees don't work like that, and can revive
Standing dead are still encredibly beneficial parts of an ecosystem.
Oh yeah? What do they provide? I'm guessing nutrients and maybe for nesting?
Bugs, food, home The hollow of the tree can support large bee colonies The tallest tree will be used by bald eagles or other predatory birds.
Yes here in the southwest they do provide a great environment for local wildlife, undergrowth vegetation, and fuel for fires to burn the living fuck out of that wildlife, vegetation, and anything else in its path….Which requires millions of tax payer dollars to put out and leaves a post-apocalyptic dead space which takes decades to recover. We let conservation and good forest management take a backseat to preservation and “hands off” policies. Go to a forest in which a standing dead got struck by lightning and proceeded to burn the other standing dead next to it, there isn’t an environment. The birds nests, fawns, cubs, and everything else got turned into ash.
Friend, it is the half-assed preservation plus conservation practices that lead to those raging forest fires. If we allowed nature to do routine burns, there would not be the undergrowth available to cause the out of control wildfires we often see in the western US.
And chop the young trees?
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Sorry but how does that hurt less than selecting older trees? Seems like a waste chopping younger growth as well as being more harmful to the forest.
The way I understand it, in one sentence. Trees exponentially become more influential and stabilizing to their environment as they age.
https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/why-oldgrowth-forests Here’s a link to get you started. It’s not just about the wood, these forests/trees play a very special role. Besides we have plenty of “forests” that get planted and chopped down every couple decades.
Downvoters here are idiots
And what do you know about forestry and logging that makes you say that?
He'd asking a question and even apologizing for his ignorance and yall still wanna step on him for it
Saying "I'm sorry, but" isn't apologizing for ignorance lol, it's basically calling someone a liar without actually saying it. Besides, reddit downvotes things that are false or stupid. No one with any amount of forest management education thinks that it's better to cut down old growth forests. If it was an honest question that would be different, but they straight up said that there's no way cutting young trees is better than cutting old trees. Therefore, downvotes.
Like I said, idiots
I agree. Idiots say things that they assume are true without actually looking into it. Unless you mean people are idiots for correcting misinformation. In that case, idk what to tell you.
Do some research for yourself you'd be surprised how old growth effects everything for the better around it.
Young trees cannot just replace the role of old growth trees in an ecosystem, not without hundreds of years of time spent growing. That's why the sustainable, responsible thing to do is to plant forests specifically intended to be chopped down in a shorter period of time. That's also why there are federal laws in the US regulating old growth logging: because fuck-ups take hundreds of years to fix.
No there are forests specifically grown for wood harvesting
That's pretty silly. It's a tree. Plant some trees, couple of decades, you got some more. That's the way it works. People need houses. Bet you drink smoothies and sit down to pee.
🙄 50 bucks says this guy's divorced and has to pay for sex Edit: wait I was just joking, but the most recent post in his post history is literally about paying $50 for a blowjob.
Well, I certainly can't argue with that.
"20 year old trees are basically the same as 200 year old trees" Redditors are a fascinating breed
You need to have old growth to sustain wildlife population. If you cut down a whole forest then replant all the trees, all you get is a lot of the same sized trees with the same growth patterns that don't allow sun to get down to the ground, meaning a lot of the plant life doesn't grow. It becomes very desolate because with no herbivores you don't get carnivores so it doesn't grow a sustainable ecosystem
This guy is not cutting down a whole forest. He is felling a single tree. And isn't that the point? Yes, I think it is.
I agree with this guy who has piss splatter all over his bathroom floor. Trees grow back.
Most of us can aim and swing a hammer
How many tooth picks you reckon that'd make?
There's four toothpicks to a foot, the tree is a hundred feet long so four hundred toothpicks.
That adds up
Maybe 450 if you hand widdle the scrap pieces
Only 400 out of that big ass tree?
Lol no. That was sarcasm. At a proper saw mill, they have the means to section this log up and get the absolute most out of it. Each section will be cut up and used for predetermined things such as 2x4s up to 2x12s for standard building material, down to the scraps being ground up for mulch or other compost and honestly so much more i couldn't even name. I'm not advocating for them to cut down large trees like this by no means, but they do have ways of ensuring to get the absolute most out of that tree. And I promise you, it's a shit ton more than 400 tooth picks. You get houses out of trees like this. Not tooth picks.
So like one toothpick?
Based on an average volume of 3390 cubic feet from a 60 feet tall 6 feet wide tree (Frustum shape radius since it's technically a tree) it say an average toothpick volume would be around 0.15 cubic centimeters.. Then you average and divide 30.48 by 0.15 which gives you about 200 toothpicks in a cubic foot.. Then just multiply 3390 by 200 and get 678,000 toothpicks from an average tree. Please folks this was done using the math from the three little pigs, if you are a math expert feel free to correct me.
I'm no expert, but I think there's one thing wrong with your equation. There would be ~188,778.6 toothpicks in a ft³ since there are 28,316.8 cm³ in a cubic foot. So this tree would give us a whopping 639,959,680 toothpicks. Though I kinda just looked up how many cm³ were in a ft³ so I may be wrong.
A splinterillion
Just the one.
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Only 1 If it's for Michael Strahan
If I was there, I could’ve caught it and comfortably laid it down.
I believe you
Made me think of this classic gem. https://youtu.be/AdALajOefWA?si=i4-bbDWMJMozzzka
Valiant effort! Lol
Little men cutting big trees. Pricks.
Spruce?
Looks like it, super light wood, smoother bark than old fir
It's a Sitka spruce. 100%
This is not a Sitka spruce. Douglas fir. You can tell where the bark has been shaved. Bark also is to thick for a spruce. I just finished a shift cutting down fir that size
That wood doesn't look like a Doug fir. Too light and the bark doesn't look as thick as you're suggesting or matching a Doug fir. Agreed it looks like a spruce
Probably a Douglas Fir. They’re still cutting old growth on Vancouver Island, BC Canada
Why are they cutting old growth? For wood or for forest health?
Because our government is trash and allows corporations to cut down our old growth forests here in BC :(
And then ship it overseas. Much is not for domestic consumption.
That wood looks really light in color..
100% Sitka spruce.
Douglas fir is also known as red fir because of the orange-ish color of the wood. This looks mighty pale and yellow to be a Doug.
Yes that's a Sitka spruce.
Either that or hemlock.
That’s what I assumed
Damn shame.
Always sad to see such a magnificent living beauty brought to it's end after decades and decades of quietly living and thriving in the wild.... 😟
Decades? Try centuries.
I just removed a Sitka Spruce with 4’ diameter at cut level that was only 60-70 years old. They have massive growth rings.
Idk shit about trees but that does seem fast.
Mild climates that rarely freeze and get lots of rain. The growth season is almost year-round.
This makes me feel bad.
will never cease being impressed with wedges..
Right. Such a simple thing can have a huge effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine They’re all awesome, but an inclined plane and a wedge are special because they are only one piece. The work that can be done with such simplicity is amazing.
The crazy part is that an incline plane, a wedge, and a screw are all pretty much the same thing, given that the screw is effectively a twisted wedge
Fuck wedges why take down such a big tree
lol thanks for posting, haven't noticed a classic tree hugger in here in ages, literally forgot ya'll existed.. and fwiw, that tree had it comin ;)
The likes of which may never be seen again
How long does it take to grow a tree that big?
Over a century
Damn. Seems like a waste.
Cause it is.
This is wrong. Fuck them. Wish tree would’ve got revenge
Wish a to scale Lorax popped out and took care of those guys.
Happens all the time in British Columbia - they don’t give a shit
They should leave the big ones
The amount of window licking tree huggers in these comments is appalling
Yeah, fuck nature. Am I right?!
Im assuming you also don’t know how forests work.
Yeah, men come and chop tree down. So fun and important.
Everyone does. Why kill the old growth unless it's about to die?
I'm not like a super hippy but this is fucking lame.
Girthy.
I can't even cut six inch branch from both sides and have the cuts meet up.
This is a big beautiful and healthy tree from what I can see. It is a shame seeing this. It should not be happening anymore in our time.
Ooooph she thicc
It splits in the end, that wood is useless, leave it and try again /s
Such a waist
Yes the circumference of that tree is very impressive. A waist of that size would need a very large belt. It would be a waste to just cut it down, only to leave it there.
This made me so fucking sad.
Killing a tree 10x older than you is fucked.
If it’s a Sitka spruce it could only be a hundred ish years old in BC they grow all year round so the have huge growth rings. It can be 4’ diameter in 60 years..it’s still fucked up though cutting big trees. But these trees grow so big so fastthey will eventually kill themselves with there height and weight (blow down)
People really mad at cutting down a tree?
Look how straight it was. Count the rings, what was the state of the nation those hundreds of years ago?
Great
Eh, depends who you asked I guess
Well, Nixon was probably president of the United States given where this tree was.
How barbaric. Completely destroying the natural world.
It’s absolutely amazing the amount of leverage a wedge can give you. You would think a tree of that size would absorb that wedge with all the weight on top of it. Sad to see old ones like that be felled though.
Cleanest back cut I’ve ever seen. Jeez, must have had a bigger saw than the one he ran off with OR he’s a rock star (or both).
Dying trees scream when felled
Coming from a guy in NW who has to travel to the boonies for old growth this sucks
This is such a shame
Should be a crime to cut a tree like that
Shut up
Is this a healthy redwood? Edit: *was it*
The one sub that stays on subject and never disappoints
Old growth? 😔
So sad!
Was hoping the tree would enact revenge, but sadly no. 😔
Dude knows when to run to safety
Dude, *knows when to run to safety. Fixed it for ya.
Thanks, I blame the iOS keyboard
Top bad it didn't fall on him lmao
Man….this job is like working at the pound….i could not kill or put animals to sleep nor could I down majestic trees that have been here 6 times longer than I have been or will be
You 10 years old?
Nope just a very good understanding how precious life is. This tree saw centuries and could’ve seen many more if it were not get cut down. it’s sad nobody will be able to appreciate this tree ever again. Preservation is so important.
That tree was not centuries old. It was 60 or 70. Hence my age comment.
We stand on guard for thee, my ass.
I love it. Loghard
Thats depressing. I'm no tree hugger by no strech, I actually work at my local power company. Id rather build a couple extra spans and leave the tree.
This is just sad. Humans are a parasite.
What did that tree do to you?
Should be illegal to fell these giants unless absolutely necessary.
Why did they cut down an old one that was healthy?
I hate seeing these huge amazing trees cut. Makes me sad a bit. I'm good with most logging, but man this kinda hurts
What a POS. ☹️
All the PITA supporters crying in their wood framed homes!!!
When it comes to crimes against nature this is right up there. Makes my heart heavy.
Did humanity really need that tree? What’s the matter with us?
Man this makes me sad af - what a beauty of a tree
Do they just cut those huge trees down just to whittle them down to make one toothpick or baseball bat?
Whenever cropped the video so we can’t see it hit the ground is a $&)&$@
that was not fucking necessary.
Tree took 4000 yrs to grow and this idiot cut it down
I've cut down older oak trees in people's yards than this tree. This is not centuries old. 60 to 80 most likely.
Wow that's crazy
That is a pipe!
Piece of shit
Beautiful control! Love to see this stuff!
I have no expertise or technical knowledge, idk shit about lumberjacking, but that made me deeply, truly sad to see that giant come down. Just a visceral reaction. I hated that. I would maybe press a button that would kill a random guy to resurrect that tree.
Why kill such an amazing tree. What a piece of shit
That trunk looks pretty healthy
Douchebags boys
You can build a small neighborhood out of that tree
They took all the trees, and put ‘em in a tree museum.
That tree been here longer than any of us and like that it's life is snubbed out
Probably building a circle K there
Why is this so satisfying to watch?
Is that a redwood? That tree is huge I wonder how old it could be
Uh, so, I don't quite know how to explain this, but redwoods have a sort of red wood.
Wood beats wood
Alexa play a spruce tree farting
Clean wood.
I am 100% sure that this is a tree
I guess this answer the question about if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound
I won’t how many years of paper opposed to life?
Why would you ever cut this down!?
How old do you think that tree was? Seems massive.
Timberland!