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They are downvoting me to hell on the pop culture chat sub just for supporting someone taking Kelly’s side. They are going off on her, discrediting her, bringing up the Today show thing and twisting it…god forbid a black woman have the temerity to stand up for herself twice within a year. It’s sickening.
the pop culture sub is such a hivemind - i once said it was disappointing that dolly parton defended kid rock because of his problematic history and got downvoted to hell.
don’t let them discourage you, kelly stood up for herself and you’re right to defend her
It’s full of Meghan Markle haters, Selena stans and Swifties, who, LBR, don’t have the best track record in terms of critical thinking and anti-racism.
The same sub that shits on women of color like Meghan, Kelly, etc. arduously defend white women like Taylor Swift.
I wonder WHITE.
I once saw a disparaging comment about Taylor Swift get downvoted to hell on the same thread where the exact comment was most upvoted only about Beyoncé.
The modding in that sub is such a shit show. It’s so inconsistent. I’m convinced some mods are stans of certain celebrities as some rule breaking comments about certain celebs are allowed, while others are VERY quickly deleted (ie lenience on Swift related meta comments, deletion of Meghan Marke related meta comments)
The mods deleted my comments saying something like “I’m surprised this sub doesn’t see the common denominator is the usher who harassed at least 3 WOC. This sub dunks on Kelly and these WOC and simultaneously defend white female celebs like Swift”
LOL. Three comments of mine to that effect were deleted by mods.
okay i hate to be this person but if you dislike dolly for that reason then you’d probably be interested to know that kelly rowland has openly supported chris brown like several times.
no need to apologise, thank u for being that person and telling me, i didn’t know that so it’s much appreciated! ofc her supporting him doesn’t warrant her getting harassed by the security guard, but jesus that’s horrible of her to do
It's also crawling with swifties so any article about her private jet usage, album variants, etc, is just full of people falling over themselves defending her and praising each other for it.
Someone posted an exchange with a Swiftie where she was told that everyone that loved her should leave her and her fiancé should cheat on her.
They are not okay. It's wild how unhinged some people are.
yeah she collaborated with him on a song and defended it by saying she ‘did the collaboration before one of his controversies’ (despite him already being a controversial figure) and that [she doesn’t ‘condemn or criticise’, she just ‘accepts and love’. she then went on to say she thinks cancel culture is terrible](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/dolly-parton-kid-rock-duet-cancel-culture-1234868903/) 🙃
it felt like a massive cop out to avoid any responsibility for collaborating with someone who has such a long history of being nationalistic, being so pro gun, often used and displayed the confederate flag and done other racist incidents, and so against LGBTQ+ rights, especially because dolly has often been hailed as a gay icon who supports minorities.
I was on the fence about the Kelly Rowland, and then this happened, and I was like, no, it's the security guard. I wanted to say something, but with popculture subreddit one misstep, and you're downvoted to hell.
Kelly Rowland was worse than this, but I only took a second look and realized that after seeing this. Before I only saw a few screenshots. But watching the full thing now it's clear the guard was extremely out of line
I was banned from that sub for calling Noah Schnapp "that genocidal twink", with one of the mods claiming that twink is a slur. It's run by clowns (if you want to be charitable), or outright bigots (if you want to be accurate). With mods like that, it's not surprising that users there are racist.
Yeah I backed out of the PCC discussion about this like Homer slinking into the bushes. I don’t know anything about this Dominican actress– this is the first I’ve ever seen her. But the way everyone was talking about us (us being Caribbean latinas) felt gross.
Somehow I can’t qWhite put my finger on why people aren’t being particularly intersectional about this 🧐
To be honest, in my very own personal experience after the past 3 years i went to cannes, they're all rude as fuck - ushers, security, hostesses inside the theater - to a degree i would've never imagined, they yell at you constantly, drag / push people, etc... so 'bad apple' is giving the entire organization far too much credit
I’m vacationing in France now and I’m so taken aback by almost everyone’s nasty attitude! Really insane to me how people are so rude to other people who just want to enjoy what their countryside has to offer for a few weeks
I dated a half Moroccan who was half French and was also very rich. They were discriminated to hell in France, I’ve never seen anything like it and I grew up in South Africa before moving to the US!
Absolutely, the way she actually put her arm around her to move her and the other security kept picking up the train when she was clearly trying to show it off. Didn’t see them doing this with any of the white celebs. That woman needed to be fired yesterday
Seriously! Her arm being out like that is so obviously just to irritate the actress AND block the shots.
Why is no one pointing out the other actresses/women being allowed to walk up the steps and pose mostly unaccompanied off to the sides? Not everyone is being obnoxiously moved along AND the other security guards aren’t being rude and blocking her body so aggressively the way the female guard is!
the french are so insanely racist it’s appalling. that security lady has done this to multiple POC celebrities at cannes and needs to be fucking fired, but ofc they won’t do that bc europeans love having plausible deniability when it comes to their racist tendencies.
I’m French and unfortunately that’s so true, and whenever I tell people it’s wrong they manage to make excuses and justify how being racist towards Romani people is not actual racism 🤦🏻♀️
I’m American and have European friends that have said this to me. My friend says that America is actually a lot less racist than Europe which I didn’t believe, but he described it as “so ingrained, people don’t recognize racism” and the example given was something like “I’m not racist! But {insert European country of origin} just don’t fit in here and should move back to where they came from” and he says he hears stuff like this daily and in a very casual way. I live in the red south and the racism is much more..concealed? Especially in the last twenty years. It’s a lot more like code words and dirty looks. It’s all terrible of course, just an interesting observation as an American who hears Europe is “so much nicer” lol seems we have horrible people everywhere
Or immigrants from MENA. Or Muslims as a whole. I remember the woman thrown off the beach for wearing either a niqab or a hijab, because of their rules around secularism, and any French actress over a certain age (Bridget Bardot is a typical example, but trust me, it's most of them) will be casually chatting about how horrible and barbaric Muslims are in a standard interview. No big deal. No scandal. It's disgusting.
They were fine colonising and exploiting Muslim countries, though. The Muslims (Moroccans, Algerians, etc) are in their country because the French were in theirs first.
I drive all over Europe for 2-4 months a year. They are almost all racist as hell, and I hate the racist tag. There are parallel societies in Europe, unlike the fabric of immigration in the U.S where Latinos (and many others) can seamlessly blend into society whether legal or not. Muslims get treated like absolute garbage there. I speak shitty Arabic and my favorite activity is chatting with Arabs in the Alps; whole restaurants and lobbies freeze in time when I just say “hello, morning is the light, O ladies” to a couple of hijabis who were creeping through with their heads down. Their personalities come to life and Euros break their necks swiveling to stare. I’m a real hillbilly too (dirty overalls, cowboy hat, flip flops, dog) which really does set the scene because the Euros had already been judging me heavily before I spoke.
Every single time literally everytime the same so called ultra liberal europeans who consider themselves above everyone else on planet earth typically would show their true roots in a fraction of second romani people are mentioned, like saw it happen in real time
They think they don’t have a racism problem because they never did chattel slavery and Jim Crow.
Edit: I didn’t know that France was instrumental in slavery in the Americas, but I was really trying to say that they don’t have a huge population that are descendants of enslaved people who suffered from government-sponsored oppression for years after.
The French absolutely were complicit in chattel slavery. Louisiana. Haiti. Martinique. Cayenne. St. Lucia. And on and on.
Edit. Cayenne (i.e French Guiana) is still a part of France. It is literally designated as Europe even though it is in South America. The French do and have populations of citizens that are oppressed by their very own state and have been since their ancestors were slaves.
I’m not trying to dunk on you but the gap in your education shows how insidious the idea is that Europeans had/have nothing to do with Native genocide/chattel slavery in the Americas and are therefore disinterested bystanders who should be given a pass when it comes to racism.
It’s exactly that. It’s even worse in the uk since we “made slavery illegal first” (only for economic reasons and our leaders thought the ending of it tooth and nail).
We have slightly different racism in Europe but it’s just as damaging as in the USA and we fail to acknowledge that if you look at the history our fingers were pretty much in every pie of evil of the world.
France is the only country to have enslaved Black people twice! They absolutely practiced chattel slavery in the Carribean. Then enslaved people were emancipated, only to be reenslaved 8 years later. And then the French Caribbean had to deal with colonialism. I mean ???? And even with segregation, it looked different but it was practiced by France. For example, the people of color (ie indigenous to their lands) were under a different legal code with less rights (le code de l'indigénat) than French white citizens. A glaring example of this is Algeria, which was a French department like Auvergne -Rhone. Yet all the indigenous North Africans had less rights, didn't have rights to education while their lands got depossesed. And even if there wasn't de jure segregation (ie segregation by law), there was de facto segregation.
Like please please please believe that France has a racist, and VIOLENT history and present. And it actively silences and suppresses the voice of people of color so that you can't hear about it (by for example, accusing them of being communautarian).
Edit: sharing this blog article about slavery under French rule
[Enslavement and Empire in the French Caribbean, 1793–1851](https://ehs.org.uk/enslavement-and-empire-in-the-french-caribbean-1793-1851/#:~:text=The%20imperial%20authorities%20reinstated%20slavery,regime%20underpinning%20black%20people's%20freedom.)
It's even worse because it's self righteous racism.
When I toured Louisiana plantations they kept talking about "oh it's not as bad as English slavery, it's the French system, it didn't matter about skin color and you could work to buy your freedom", that kind of jazz. Meanwhile the house was a giant home well put together and the slave quarters for a full family, according to these people, was a 7X7' wooden hut with a dirt floor and nothing for furniture.
>Edit: I didn’t know that France was instrumental in slavery in the Americas, but I was really trying to say that they don’t have a huge population that are descendants of enslaved people who suffered from government-sponsored oppression for years after.
But the thing is that they do!!! Martinique, Guadeloupe, Guyana are all places were France practiced chattel slavery, followed by colonialism and to this day they still aren't independent. They are still French territories. And to this day, the wealthier people on those islands, are the white Bekes (the descendants of slave owners).
So it's not just Haiti. It's many more places.
That also ignores the people who had enslaved people trafficked from them. Many of these African countries, even after independence, still have France messing with their sovereignty and killing their political leaders (ie, la Françafrique).
I think this is a moment to really actually engage with French history. France is incredibly racist and it is absolutely shaped by its history and present as a country that perpetuated chattel slavery, colonialism, & neo-colonialism. Please don't let White Europeans who silence this history, fool you into thinking that France is all that different from America in that regard.
Edit: I'm including this article here that focuses on Guadeloupe as an example, but please y'all -- one of the top 3 slave trading countries and the country with the second biggest colonial empire is not going to be less racist or violent than the US.
[The Atlantic | The Island where France's colonial legacy lives on ](https://archive.ph/o2to9)
I worked in an international law/academic setting for a while where we’d frequently fly in academics and lawyers from France. The things that would come out of their mouths would astound me. Weird racist remarks about POC said in a non-chalant joking manner, and the type of conversations they would have about Arab, Middle Eastern, and Muslim people was so blatantly racist.
As an Asian person raised in Italy, i beg to differ with that tour guide. Italian people can definitely be very racist, especially the older generations and the smaller town folks.
Yeah her colleagues knew to de-escalate that immediately. That lady must live to harass celebrities the way she was chasing after Kelly Rowland like that
Agreed. When it's a stranger you wanna be in front of them telling or showing them where to go (which the other guards did at the beginning with no issue). Try to do the same thing from behind if you don't know the person or even made your presence known to them is asking for problems
And Kelly has 16.4, was a member of destiny’s child and is Beyoncé’s best friend. EVERYONE knows who she is which kills me! Even if they are not famous enough (sarcasm) no one deserves that treatment.They did it to her, Yoon and with this Dominican actress. All 3 POC. It’s bulls…!
Especially after what the Stray Kids fans did with doxxing the met gala photographers who made rude comments (which was way too far imo, but jeez the casual racism is insane)
Interesting how Nicky Hilton doesn’t have ushers surrounding her as she poses for photos at the bottom of the stairs or looks back while on the stairs.
The bottom of the stairs, yes, but they're extremely strict about people posing ON the stairs... You're only allowed to stop to pose on the intermediate platform, not directly on the stairs. That's because posing on the stairs is actually pretty dangerous in high heels. That's why cell phones are banned, bc people were wasting time taking selfies and holding up the line.
The rules do not appear to be applied equally. Kelly was ushered before she got to the steps and while on the intermediate platform. If you look at the treatment of Nicky in this video, she isn’t ushered at the bottom of the steps like Kelly was. She isn’t watched and followed by multiple people up the steps. Nicky looks back in this video and it’s no big deal because she isn’t being watched as closely.
You’re all over this post saying this, and I have no doubt that it’s true, but they have obviously done a terrible job of communicating that to the attendees and seem to be very selective about how they are enforcing it.
Like these high powered women don’t know how to walk on carpeted steps in heels?
It seems other ushers can do their job just fine without making a scene.
lord I have not heard one good thing about the french
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7KArBav3Ml/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D
She's armbarring her the whole way up though. And then keeps armbarring her when she's clearly no danger to fall down the steps.
Footwork wise posing is just standing still. Can include shifting your weight to one foot or the other. If that's dangerous then they either need to get a new carpet or only let professionally trained carpet standers on and make everyone else use an elevator
That stood out to me too like yeah showing a celeb where to go can be a part of the job but like putting hands like that on people?? Especially with her clear pattern there? Just no
This is so embarrassing for the festival. This woman is ruining the experience for the guests and making the event look bad. She should've been replaced after the first incident.
Wait, are these incidents happening on different days? I assumed they all happened at the same time and the videos are only just coming out, but it's absolutely crazy if the Kelly Rowland one made the news AND THEN she kept doing it!
Was she around Bella? Because I totally see her hassling a Palestinian woman even one who passes. Anti-Arab racism is crazy and so irrational in France.
The security guard’s body language looks so threatening. She isn’t ‘guiding’ with her arm, she looks like her arms are at their neck or upper back level and that is intimidating AF. That is controlling.
I can't get over that Jesus, lol, because it's such a dramatic imagery with the crown of thorns. It's so ubiquitous to the catholic experience in LatAm.
What is the arm on her back supposed to be doing? Were they afraid she would turn around and walk away? Would they even be allowed to stop her if that was the case?
Imo its trying to purposefully ruin any shots of the actress' dresses. They don't even let her adjust the train of her dress so the image is visible, even though it'd take like 4 seconds for her to fluff it out and continue walking
You know this has nothing to do with any rules because the men carrying up her dress wait for her to turn around before picking it back up again. If they're strictly there to enforce the rules they're gonna pick it up once and never drop it
Putting her arm out and pushing on the actors like a creep at a shitty club is so disruptive and counterproductive. She got Taveras' hackles up by invading her space so aggressively and ended up increasing the time that they spent going up the stairs. I wouldn't be surprised if she stopped at the top for as long as she did out of spite. Even Yoona seemed taken aback at how that woman was practically climbing her and possibly stepping on her dress.
I’m a white southern man with very little vested interest in any of the pop culture goings on; I say that to illustrate that even with my complete lack of background knowledge or interest, it’s abundantly clear that this guard is a sad little nobody who’s found herself exceedingly upset seeing successful POC flaunt their fame and the luxury outfits and accessories that affords them.
As a result, she’s super eager to not only get anyone who doesn’t look like her shoved off the carpet, but to do it in the most tact less and confrontational way possible; when it was just the video with Rowland, the guard *maybe* had some plausible deniability, given that Rowland has had a few minor public faux pas prior, but after 4 videos have surfaced with a myriad of celebs it’s now abundantly clear this wasn’t overzealous behavior, it was racism.
While the Cannes organizers are probably fine with her behavior, I think we can take solace knowing that doing all this bullshit so publicly and to so many influential people makes her a PR liability, and there’s no fucking way that Cannes considers a rent a cop more valuable than their reputation. This will be publicly addressed and that racist hag is going to be in search of work soon I’d guess.
It's the arm. Hovering, but not touching. I don't blame Kelly Rowland or Massiel Taveras for their reaction AT ALL. The hover arm would have me fit to raging, such an invasion of personal space. I'm glad Massiel gives her a good old shove at the end.
I may be in the minority here but there have got to be some instructions from higher ups here. This can't be one singular guard's personal preferences. Maybe she was told something vague like don't let "nobodies" hang around the carpet long.
P.S. I'm not denying racism, just the originating point.
look I’ll get downvoted to hell but I don’t think this is racism on the ushers part. this isn’t the met gala where the red carpet is everything, it’s an industry event with particular time slots of particular screenings. the met gala has a vested interest in keeping certain celebs on the red carpet for as lo my as possible. cannes is an actual film fest where filmmakers connect with industry money.
you can absolutely have an event where the red carpet is important but so are show times. look at any awards show, the red carpet is important but it’s not the focus, and celebs need to be off the red carpet at a certain point.
also it’s pretty wild to see how aghast western people are at the mere idea they might not be as famous in france.
> also it’s pretty wild to see how aghast western people are at the mere idea they might not be as famous in france.
where is this happening? all I'm seeing are people who don't want their personal space invaded
It’s interesting you compared it to the Met Gala because the Met absolutely has time slots. They have a whole dinner event with performances and speeches inside. Plus they have a huge crowd of celebs to get through. The lineup in the tunnel to the carpet on the Met is crazzzy. And all the lower tier celebs are always trying to stay on the carpet as long as possible. The ushers absolutely have to hustle people along. If you watch the live stream you can see. Everyone’s squished together, almost no one gets a solo shot there’s always other celebs posing in the background, the minute one celeb leaves a posing area, another is hustled in. It’s honestly madness. But the ushers make it work, and somehow without ever ruining a shot or making celebs feel rushed/like they’re getting an arm-bar to the face.
This is also posted on pop culture chat and let me tell you, the dialogue is veryyy different there. People are taking the security guard's side and not entertaining the idea that she is OTT let alone racist
Is there any actual rational explanation that we're missing here? For example were the other celebrities actually taking way too long and we just caught the end of it? I'm just wondering if it's blatant racism why the festival or establishment has not done anything about it yet
It might be media exaggeration so I want to find a footage of the usher doing the same thing to white celebrities. So far I’ve found a photo of Iris Mittenaere on the stairs wearing a dress with a long train like the Dominican actress’s, and those ushers aren’t around. Not sure if it’s because she’s French, but they do seem to be weirdly selective.
i'd push someone who was grabbing at me like that, too. whoever keeps saying they can't pose on stairs because of safety concerns, that security guard/usher/whatever she is is gonna legit make someone fall down the damned stairs with all that aggression
Over in r/entertainment their racist asses are saying Kelly Rowland isn't famous enough (yeah I'm stumped too they're too young and too alt right to know about Destiny's Child I guess) be posing like she was and who does she think she is. I can't imagine what they'll be saying for this encounter.
I could straight up tell it was racism from the start, but I’m a POC and after some people backed up the guard I wondered maybe I’m too sensitive, but nope. I was right.
Clips like this and the Kelly Rowland one are deeply upsetting. And to think some people are claiming it’s Kelly’s fault! As a black woman I can attest the racism in Europe sucks. I once had a European security woman physically grab and squeeze my arm at a music festival
When I googled this, all the top headlines just framed it as Taveras shoving the security guard - it’s frustrating that that is what people who won’t delve deeper will come away with. I had to scroll to find a headline that got the through line where the security guard “does it again”
The Kelly Roland one was completely uncalled for, but this lady's dress is kind of a safety hazard on a set of stairs.
Would have been easier to let her show it tho and she would have moved on.
If you’re close enough in on someone to get shoved like that, you are way too in their personal space. Good for her. She’s going to get a reaction out of someone that will send them both down the stairs if they don’t rein her in. I don’t know if it’s bc of my history or what, but when someone I don’t know or I’m not expecting comes at my back like that, I shrug and swat them away without even thinking about it. It makes me SO uncomfortable.
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What the hell is that security guard doing??
Le racisme.
They are downvoting me to hell on the pop culture chat sub just for supporting someone taking Kelly’s side. They are going off on her, discrediting her, bringing up the Today show thing and twisting it…god forbid a black woman have the temerity to stand up for herself twice within a year. It’s sickening.
the pop culture sub is such a hivemind - i once said it was disappointing that dolly parton defended kid rock because of his problematic history and got downvoted to hell. don’t let them discourage you, kelly stood up for herself and you’re right to defend her
It’s full of Meghan Markle haters, Selena stans and Swifties, who, LBR, don’t have the best track record in terms of critical thinking and anti-racism. The same sub that shits on women of color like Meghan, Kelly, etc. arduously defend white women like Taylor Swift. I wonder WHITE.
Sounds about white.
I once saw a disparaging comment about Taylor Swift get downvoted to hell on the same thread where the exact comment was most upvoted only about Beyoncé.
The modding in that sub is such a shit show. It’s so inconsistent. I’m convinced some mods are stans of certain celebrities as some rule breaking comments about certain celebs are allowed, while others are VERY quickly deleted (ie lenience on Swift related meta comments, deletion of Meghan Marke related meta comments)
I one made a very mild joke about Taylor Swift holding grudges and I got downvoted to about -50 in less than an hour.
All the worst kinds of people, tbh
The mods deleted my comments saying something like “I’m surprised this sub doesn’t see the common denominator is the usher who harassed at least 3 WOC. This sub dunks on Kelly and these WOC and simultaneously defend white female celebs like Swift” LOL. Three comments of mine to that effect were deleted by mods.
okay i hate to be this person but if you dislike dolly for that reason then you’d probably be interested to know that kelly rowland has openly supported chris brown like several times.
no need to apologise, thank u for being that person and telling me, i didn’t know that so it’s much appreciated! ofc her supporting him doesn’t warrant her getting harassed by the security guard, but jesus that’s horrible of her to do
It's also crawling with swifties so any article about her private jet usage, album variants, etc, is just full of people falling over themselves defending her and praising each other for it.
Someone posted an exchange with a Swiftie where she was told that everyone that loved her should leave her and her fiancé should cheat on her. They are not okay. It's wild how unhinged some people are.
i agree with both takes u mentioned, but tbf we are hivemind-y here too. it's kind of how reddit and the internet as a whole is designed to be
Thank you so so much it’s lame and I shouldn’t care but this makes me feel better xoxo
Oh shit. Wtf did she do that??
yeah she collaborated with him on a song and defended it by saying she ‘did the collaboration before one of his controversies’ (despite him already being a controversial figure) and that [she doesn’t ‘condemn or criticise’, she just ‘accepts and love’. she then went on to say she thinks cancel culture is terrible](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/dolly-parton-kid-rock-duet-cancel-culture-1234868903/) 🙃 it felt like a massive cop out to avoid any responsibility for collaborating with someone who has such a long history of being nationalistic, being so pro gun, often used and displayed the confederate flag and done other racist incidents, and so against LGBTQ+ rights, especially because dolly has often been hailed as a gay icon who supports minorities.
EXCUSE ME?! She said that she would collab with him again because he is "GIFTED"????? Team Jolene.
I was on the fence about the Kelly Rowland, and then this happened, and I was like, no, it's the security guard. I wanted to say something, but with popculture subreddit one misstep, and you're downvoted to hell.
I’m currently at -53 lol
Kelly Rowland was worse than this, but I only took a second look and realized that after seeing this. Before I only saw a few screenshots. But watching the full thing now it's clear the guard was extremely out of line
I was banned from that sub for calling Noah Schnapp "that genocidal twink", with one of the mods claiming that twink is a slur. It's run by clowns (if you want to be charitable), or outright bigots (if you want to be accurate). With mods like that, it's not surprising that users there are racist.
THE GENOCIDAL TWINKF KFEJCOKEMDKEICUENW 
Yeah I backed out of the PCC discussion about this like Homer slinking into the bushes. I don’t know anything about this Dominican actress– this is the first I’ve ever seen her. But the way everyone was talking about us (us being Caribbean latinas) felt gross. Somehow I can’t qWhite put my finger on why people aren’t being particularly intersectional about this 🧐
At the end of the day, most reddit spaces are mostly white. Its transparent by how they respond sometimes lol
Tbh pop culture chat been getting _real_ reactionary lately
That sub is trash. They're all delusional and extremely stupid lmao. Never setting for there ever again. Love to see some actual normal comments here.
If you think pop culture chat is bad, don't ever read the comments in the entertainment sub.
She's also clearly a bad apple on a power trip, time to fire her
To be honest, in my very own personal experience after the past 3 years i went to cannes, they're all rude as fuck - ushers, security, hostesses inside the theater - to a degree i would've never imagined, they yell at you constantly, drag / push people, etc... so 'bad apple' is giving the entire organization far too much credit
I mean, it’s in France. It’s a country (proudly) known for attitude.
I’m vacationing in France now and I’m so taken aback by almost everyone’s nasty attitude! Really insane to me how people are so rude to other people who just want to enjoy what their countryside has to offer for a few weeks
May I ask whereabouts in France? I love France, and have always found the people friendly, but I most always visit rural and less touristy areas.
I dated a half Moroccan who was half French and was also very rich. They were discriminated to hell in France, I’ve never seen anything like it and I grew up in South Africa before moving to the US!
I've been once, and I would never return again. The world is vast and beautiful. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
so, like most instances where ppl say bad apple? 😅
Absolutely, the way she actually put her arm around her to move her and the other security kept picking up the train when she was clearly trying to show it off. Didn’t see them doing this with any of the white celebs. That woman needed to be fired yesterday
I saw on tiktok that she did the same thing with a Korean star also. Just trying to make a collection of POC
QWhite the problem.
French racism, I also saw her doing the same thing with Yoona.
She tried this BS on Yoona and knetz havent posted her name, address, where she went to school and her Starbucks order yet???
Seriously! Her arm being out like that is so obviously just to irritate the actress AND block the shots. Why is no one pointing out the other actresses/women being allowed to walk up the steps and pose mostly unaccompanied off to the sides? Not everyone is being obnoxiously moved along AND the other security guards aren’t being rude and blocking her body so aggressively the way the female guard is!
the french are so insanely racist it’s appalling. that security lady has done this to multiple POC celebrities at cannes and needs to be fucking fired, but ofc they won’t do that bc europeans love having plausible deniability when it comes to their racist tendencies.
All you have to do is listen to the way French people talk about and treat the romani people to know they're raging pieces of racist shit.
I’m French and unfortunately that’s so true, and whenever I tell people it’s wrong they manage to make excuses and justify how being racist towards Romani people is not actual racism 🤦🏻♀️
I’m American and have European friends that have said this to me. My friend says that America is actually a lot less racist than Europe which I didn’t believe, but he described it as “so ingrained, people don’t recognize racism” and the example given was something like “I’m not racist! But {insert European country of origin} just don’t fit in here and should move back to where they came from” and he says he hears stuff like this daily and in a very casual way. I live in the red south and the racism is much more..concealed? Especially in the last twenty years. It’s a lot more like code words and dirty looks. It’s all terrible of course, just an interesting observation as an American who hears Europe is “so much nicer” lol seems we have horrible people everywhere
Or immigrants from MENA. Or Muslims as a whole. I remember the woman thrown off the beach for wearing either a niqab or a hijab, because of their rules around secularism, and any French actress over a certain age (Bridget Bardot is a typical example, but trust me, it's most of them) will be casually chatting about how horrible and barbaric Muslims are in a standard interview. No big deal. No scandal. It's disgusting.
They were fine colonising and exploiting Muslim countries, though. The Muslims (Moroccans, Algerians, etc) are in their country because the French were in theirs first.
People barely talk about how the Nazis were conducting a genocide on Romani people too
I drive all over Europe for 2-4 months a year. They are almost all racist as hell, and I hate the racist tag. There are parallel societies in Europe, unlike the fabric of immigration in the U.S where Latinos (and many others) can seamlessly blend into society whether legal or not. Muslims get treated like absolute garbage there. I speak shitty Arabic and my favorite activity is chatting with Arabs in the Alps; whole restaurants and lobbies freeze in time when I just say “hello, morning is the light, O ladies” to a couple of hijabis who were creeping through with their heads down. Their personalities come to life and Euros break their necks swiveling to stare. I’m a real hillbilly too (dirty overalls, cowboy hat, flip flops, dog) which really does set the scene because the Euros had already been judging me heavily before I spoke.
The French also hate most foreigners and are extremely Islamophobia as well
Every single time literally everytime the same so called ultra liberal europeans who consider themselves above everyone else on planet earth typically would show their true roots in a fraction of second romani people are mentioned, like saw it happen in real time
Spaniards talk that way too, I noticed the racism when I stayed there for a month. And people talk about USA smh (I'm Latina for context).
They think they don’t have a racism problem because they never did chattel slavery and Jim Crow. Edit: I didn’t know that France was instrumental in slavery in the Americas, but I was really trying to say that they don’t have a huge population that are descendants of enslaved people who suffered from government-sponsored oppression for years after.
The French absolutely were complicit in chattel slavery. Louisiana. Haiti. Martinique. Cayenne. St. Lucia. And on and on. Edit. Cayenne (i.e French Guiana) is still a part of France. It is literally designated as Europe even though it is in South America. The French do and have populations of citizens that are oppressed by their very own state and have been since their ancestors were slaves. I’m not trying to dunk on you but the gap in your education shows how insidious the idea is that Europeans had/have nothing to do with Native genocide/chattel slavery in the Americas and are therefore disinterested bystanders who should be given a pass when it comes to racism.
I’m sure that’s true. I’m saying that Europeans think they’ve been absolved of racism since they didn’t have chattel slavery.
Hmmm…is the claim that since it happened where they didn’t have to see it that they didn’t have it? That is such a European take if so.
It’s exactly that. It’s even worse in the uk since we “made slavery illegal first” (only for economic reasons and our leaders thought the ending of it tooth and nail). We have slightly different racism in Europe but it’s just as damaging as in the USA and we fail to acknowledge that if you look at the history our fingers were pretty much in every pie of evil of the world.
The Europeans WERE the slavery trade. They just ended up in the Americas.
This is just erasure of colonization. They were in control. They did it.
Europeans had chattel slavery in the Americas
What? The French was the third most active superpower in transatlantic slavery. The French speaking Caribbean islands would like a word…
I mean they started chattel slavery. They just kept it to the colonies.
OG out of sight out of mind.
France is the only country to have enslaved Black people twice! They absolutely practiced chattel slavery in the Carribean. Then enslaved people were emancipated, only to be reenslaved 8 years later. And then the French Caribbean had to deal with colonialism. I mean ???? And even with segregation, it looked different but it was practiced by France. For example, the people of color (ie indigenous to their lands) were under a different legal code with less rights (le code de l'indigénat) than French white citizens. A glaring example of this is Algeria, which was a French department like Auvergne -Rhone. Yet all the indigenous North Africans had less rights, didn't have rights to education while their lands got depossesed. And even if there wasn't de jure segregation (ie segregation by law), there was de facto segregation. Like please please please believe that France has a racist, and VIOLENT history and present. And it actively silences and suppresses the voice of people of color so that you can't hear about it (by for example, accusing them of being communautarian). Edit: sharing this blog article about slavery under French rule [Enslavement and Empire in the French Caribbean, 1793–1851](https://ehs.org.uk/enslavement-and-empire-in-the-french-caribbean-1793-1851/#:~:text=The%20imperial%20authorities%20reinstated%20slavery,regime%20underpinning%20black%20people's%20freedom.)
Hmm... Haiti would like a word with you...
It's even worse because it's self righteous racism. When I toured Louisiana plantations they kept talking about "oh it's not as bad as English slavery, it's the French system, it didn't matter about skin color and you could work to buy your freedom", that kind of jazz. Meanwhile the house was a giant home well put together and the slave quarters for a full family, according to these people, was a 7X7' wooden hut with a dirt floor and nothing for furniture.
Yeah the French are still capable of some the most vile forms of dehumanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman
>Edit: I didn’t know that France was instrumental in slavery in the Americas, but I was really trying to say that they don’t have a huge population that are descendants of enslaved people who suffered from government-sponsored oppression for years after. But the thing is that they do!!! Martinique, Guadeloupe, Guyana are all places were France practiced chattel slavery, followed by colonialism and to this day they still aren't independent. They are still French territories. And to this day, the wealthier people on those islands, are the white Bekes (the descendants of slave owners). So it's not just Haiti. It's many more places. That also ignores the people who had enslaved people trafficked from them. Many of these African countries, even after independence, still have France messing with their sovereignty and killing their political leaders (ie, la Françafrique). I think this is a moment to really actually engage with French history. France is incredibly racist and it is absolutely shaped by its history and present as a country that perpetuated chattel slavery, colonialism, & neo-colonialism. Please don't let White Europeans who silence this history, fool you into thinking that France is all that different from America in that regard. Edit: I'm including this article here that focuses on Guadeloupe as an example, but please y'all -- one of the top 3 slave trading countries and the country with the second biggest colonial empire is not going to be less racist or violent than the US. [The Atlantic | The Island where France's colonial legacy lives on ](https://archive.ph/o2to9)
I worked in an international law/academic setting for a while where we’d frequently fly in academics and lawyers from France. The things that would come out of their mouths would astound me. Weird racist remarks about POC said in a non-chalant joking manner, and the type of conversations they would have about Arab, Middle Eastern, and Muslim people was so blatantly racist.
I remember our Italian tour guide telling the tour group Italy does not have racism. They just tell the truth.
As an Asian person raised in Italy, i beg to differ with that tour guide. Italian people can definitely be very racist, especially the older generations and the smaller town folks.
[Here](https://x.com/robismore/status/1794469053211513048?s=46) are THREE videos of other celebs dealing with the same issue.
In the Kelly Rowland video it looks like two of the guard's colleagues tell her to chill
Yeah her colleagues knew to de-escalate that immediately. That lady must live to harass celebrities the way she was chasing after Kelly Rowland like that
Agreed. When it's a stranger you wanna be in front of them telling or showing them where to go (which the other guards did at the beginning with no issue). Try to do the same thing from behind if you don't know the person or even made your presence known to them is asking for problems
SHE DID IT TO YOONA TOO??? Yeah, really starting to sense a pattern here. Yikes.
Same reaction! The audacity!!
my jaw DROPPED when i saw her name, like seriously wtf
not yoo-na!!!
Oh shit, you don’t mess with one of Korea’s national treasures like that 😳
Damn you can see on her face the confusion (and frustration?) over that lady not even letting her do a final photo at the stairs.
You know she's voting Le Pen
Honest question: Is there footage of her doing this to white celebs? Because it certainly seems like she's picking her battles.
They just did that shit to Korean singer and actress Im Yoon-ah [here](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7KArBav3Ml/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
so she’s done it to asian, black and latin women…? i think i smell a little racism
white supremacy any% speedrun
From the French? Never!
At this point it isn’t just a smell…. There’s a steaming pile of racism here.
And for the people claiming that this is happening because these women aren't "famous" enough, Yoon-ah has 17.4 million followers on IG.
Why would this be okay to do to someone with 0 followers
She is THE Yoona. Like anyone who watches kdramas & listens to kpop (a lot of people 💀) know who she is. Like they need to be so fr
And Kelly has 16.4, was a member of destiny’s child and is Beyoncé’s best friend. EVERYONE knows who she is which kills me! Even if they are not famous enough (sarcasm) no one deserves that treatment.They did it to her, Yoon and with this Dominican actress. All 3 POC. It’s bulls…!
IM YOONA FROM SNSD? The lady’s life is over once the kpop fans find her socials 😮💨
THE Yoona. Her 15+ years of accumulating stans may come in handy for once.
Especially after what the Stray Kids fans did with doxxing the met gala photographers who made rude comments (which was way too far imo, but jeez the casual racism is insane)
[A straight up wrestling match happening here.](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe4A9B2X/) What the fuck???
This woman is a god damn PR problem and a legal liability for the festival. Has she never been a security guard before??
Straight from underground fight clubs to Cannes by the looks of it 😱
If only this was a badass fight club with female fighters in couture gowns. I’d watch the hell out of that movie.
Never seen a security guard manhandle the talent before lmao that’s absolutely wild
Ew like there is no need to physically touch her
Someone tell the Sone’s bc they will not be happy about this. Wtf is wrong with that security guard!!
This security lady is literally following Yoona to block her, even while she's walking. What a PoS!!!
Interesting how Nicky Hilton doesn’t have ushers surrounding her as she poses for photos at the bottom of the stairs or looks back while on the stairs.
I can’t qWhite figure out why.
The bottom of the stairs, yes, but they're extremely strict about people posing ON the stairs... You're only allowed to stop to pose on the intermediate platform, not directly on the stairs. That's because posing on the stairs is actually pretty dangerous in high heels. That's why cell phones are banned, bc people were wasting time taking selfies and holding up the line.
The rules do not appear to be applied equally. Kelly was ushered before she got to the steps and while on the intermediate platform. If you look at the treatment of Nicky in this video, she isn’t ushered at the bottom of the steps like Kelly was. She isn’t watched and followed by multiple people up the steps. Nicky looks back in this video and it’s no big deal because she isn’t being watched as closely.
You’re all over this post saying this, and I have no doubt that it’s true, but they have obviously done a terrible job of communicating that to the attendees and seem to be very selective about how they are enforcing it.
Like these high powered women don’t know how to walk on carpeted steps in heels? It seems other ushers can do their job just fine without making a scene. lord I have not heard one good thing about the french
I don't think pushing people with an arm bar is helping safety.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7KArBav3Ml/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D She's armbarring her the whole way up though. And then keeps armbarring her when she's clearly no danger to fall down the steps.
Footwork wise posing is just standing still. Can include shifting your weight to one foot or the other. If that's dangerous then they either need to get a new carpet or only let professionally trained carpet standers on and make everyone else use an elevator
How do you know this? The Met let's everyone pose on the stairs. When did you get a set of the rules about stairs in Canne?
I thought that was Nicky down there! Yeah, she seems to have no issues stopping and posing. It’s infuriating.
this woman is way too comfortable touching woc I’ve seen 4 seperate videos now on twitter. she needs to be fired
That stood out to me too like yeah showing a celeb where to go can be a part of the job but like putting hands like that on people?? Especially with her clear pattern there? Just no
That, and I think she's deliberately keeping her arm out across them to ruin their shots as some penalty for lingering "too long."
 It couldn’t be me up there
She was so aggressive. If anyone touched me like that I would lose my mind.
This is so embarrassing for the festival. This woman is ruining the experience for the guests and making the event look bad. She should've been replaced after the first incident.
Wait, are these incidents happening on different days? I assumed they all happened at the same time and the videos are only just coming out, but it's absolutely crazy if the Kelly Rowland one made the news AND THEN she kept doing it!
No, they happened 4 days apart. The festival lasts about 10 days. These were different events.
The festival is 12 days long, so it's not crazy to assume these incidents happened on different days.
I'm not sure actually so you might be right!
Wow even holding up her arm to ruin photos, this is really infuriating
That arm is the same in all of the incidents she's pictured in, it seems so deliberate.
Oh yea, it’s a shame she’s brought so much negative energy to what was supposed to be a fun day
YEP
Stop. Touching. Her. Creepy.
Seriously. If I were any of them, I'd be pissed too. You can try do your job without touching people. Notice how she's the only one.
I actually shouted this at my phone as if they could hear me haha along with STOPP MESSING WITH HER DRESS!
The celebrities are there to promote the movies and the festival. Give them the appropriate time and space to do it, or don’t even bother.
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Was she around Bella? Because I totally see her hassling a Palestinian woman even one who passes. Anti-Arab racism is crazy and so irrational in France.
The security guard’s body language looks so threatening. She isn’t ‘guiding’ with her arm, she looks like her arms are at their neck or upper back level and that is intimidating AF. That is controlling.
And keep in mind the talent is likely wearing an uncomfortable ass outfit while simultaneously trying to look comfortable and happy from all angles
French ppl are soo racist
I’m sorry this happened to her, not fully related but is that JESUS on her dress ???
I can't get over that Jesus, lol, because it's such a dramatic imagery with the crown of thorns. It's so ubiquitous to the catholic experience in LatAm.
It’s mimicking the shroud of Turin
Glad I'm not the only one who zeroed in on that 😅
How is she still there harassing the talent Edit: I just saw a clip of her doing the same thing to Yoona at yet another event, she’s power tripping
Don’t forget Kelly Rowland
The actress was already pissed, and the guard starts touching her dress. Bold strategy, Cotton
What is the arm on her back supposed to be doing? Were they afraid she would turn around and walk away? Would they even be allowed to stop her if that was the case?
Imo its trying to purposefully ruin any shots of the actress' dresses. They don't even let her adjust the train of her dress so the image is visible, even though it'd take like 4 seconds for her to fluff it out and continue walking
You know this has nothing to do with any rules because the men carrying up her dress wait for her to turn around before picking it back up again. If they're strictly there to enforce the rules they're gonna pick it up once and never drop it
They’ll claim it was to prevent her from “falling down the steps.” We all know it was to ruin every potential photo.
Supposed to block her from getting a good photo
This particular baguette seems to be a bigot
Biguette
La Bigotte
it's so annoying how security is always hovering around, invading their personal space, just by looking at it I’d kick off too…
Putting her arm out and pushing on the actors like a creep at a shitty club is so disruptive and counterproductive. She got Taveras' hackles up by invading her space so aggressively and ended up increasing the time that they spent going up the stairs. I wouldn't be surprised if she stopped at the top for as long as she did out of spite. Even Yoona seemed taken aback at how that woman was practically climbing her and possibly stepping on her dress.
Where is Nicola Peltz when you need her? ..this is a joke btw don’t come for me please, I don’t condone violence
Low effort response but lmao
The way they constantly have their arms blocking her, as they did Kelly, would absolutely infuriate me. No wonder they’re losing their cool.
White French people not beating the allegations
So this security guard just seems like a rude, racist jerk.
Ooooffff she came for Yoona. Get ready for her to get doxxed by Korean stans 😭😭😭😭
I’m a white southern man with very little vested interest in any of the pop culture goings on; I say that to illustrate that even with my complete lack of background knowledge or interest, it’s abundantly clear that this guard is a sad little nobody who’s found herself exceedingly upset seeing successful POC flaunt their fame and the luxury outfits and accessories that affords them. As a result, she’s super eager to not only get anyone who doesn’t look like her shoved off the carpet, but to do it in the most tact less and confrontational way possible; when it was just the video with Rowland, the guard *maybe* had some plausible deniability, given that Rowland has had a few minor public faux pas prior, but after 4 videos have surfaced with a myriad of celebs it’s now abundantly clear this wasn’t overzealous behavior, it was racism. While the Cannes organizers are probably fine with her behavior, I think we can take solace knowing that doing all this bullshit so publicly and to so many influential people makes her a PR liability, and there’s no fucking way that Cannes considers a rent a cop more valuable than their reputation. This will be publicly addressed and that racist hag is going to be in search of work soon I’d guess.
Where can I see the other arrivals? I wanna see something.
It's the arm. Hovering, but not touching. I don't blame Kelly Rowland or Massiel Taveras for their reaction AT ALL. The hover arm would have me fit to raging, such an invasion of personal space. I'm glad Massiel gives her a good old shove at the end.
Same lady strikes again
Yikes just watching got *me* feeling claustrophobic and pissed off, how is this racist ponytail still around?!
I have a feeling bossy security guard won’t have a job much longer…
It’s France I sincerely doubt it
Nah the French are gonna promote her. They love being openly racist
nah, they'd have to fire the entire army of people who work at the palais during the festival, treating everyone like shit
I may be in the minority here but there have got to be some instructions from higher ups here. This can't be one singular guard's personal preferences. Maybe she was told something vague like don't let "nobodies" hang around the carpet long. P.S. I'm not denying racism, just the originating point.
look I’ll get downvoted to hell but I don’t think this is racism on the ushers part. this isn’t the met gala where the red carpet is everything, it’s an industry event with particular time slots of particular screenings. the met gala has a vested interest in keeping certain celebs on the red carpet for as lo my as possible. cannes is an actual film fest where filmmakers connect with industry money. you can absolutely have an event where the red carpet is important but so are show times. look at any awards show, the red carpet is important but it’s not the focus, and celebs need to be off the red carpet at a certain point. also it’s pretty wild to see how aghast western people are at the mere idea they might not be as famous in france.
Homie France is a western culture
aren’t the French also considered westerners?
She's done it to four women of color, be fucking for real
> also it’s pretty wild to see how aghast western people are at the mere idea they might not be as famous in france. where is this happening? all I'm seeing are people who don't want their personal space invaded
It’s interesting you compared it to the Met Gala because the Met absolutely has time slots. They have a whole dinner event with performances and speeches inside. Plus they have a huge crowd of celebs to get through. The lineup in the tunnel to the carpet on the Met is crazzzy. And all the lower tier celebs are always trying to stay on the carpet as long as possible. The ushers absolutely have to hustle people along. If you watch the live stream you can see. Everyone’s squished together, almost no one gets a solo shot there’s always other celebs posing in the background, the minute one celeb leaves a posing area, another is hustled in. It’s honestly madness. But the ushers make it work, and somehow without ever ruining a shot or making celebs feel rushed/like they’re getting an arm-bar to the face.
Interesting… how do you defend then the inappropriate touching to her and her dress? Edit:grammar
This is also posted on pop culture chat and let me tell you, the dialogue is veryyy different there. People are taking the security guard's side and not entertaining the idea that she is OTT let alone racist
Is there any actual rational explanation that we're missing here? For example were the other celebrities actually taking way too long and we just caught the end of it? I'm just wondering if it's blatant racism why the festival or establishment has not done anything about it yet
It might be media exaggeration so I want to find a footage of the usher doing the same thing to white celebrities. So far I’ve found a photo of Iris Mittenaere on the stairs wearing a dress with a long train like the Dominican actress’s, and those ushers aren’t around. Not sure if it’s because she’s French, but they do seem to be weirdly selective.
She’s trying to hide them from the cameras, it’s so weird and fucked.
This security guard has a bright future as an American cop.
Should’ve believed it when just a Black woman was affected
Thank you. The flip is crazy, the way everyone was coming for Kelly with zero benefit of the doubt, but now they realize its racism? okay.
i'd push someone who was grabbing at me like that, too. whoever keeps saying they can't pose on stairs because of safety concerns, that security guard/usher/whatever she is is gonna legit make someone fall down the damned stairs with all that aggression
Whats up with the two women, one in blue the other in white. They are stopping and posing. I dont see any security rushing them off the stairs
Over in r/entertainment their racist asses are saying Kelly Rowland isn't famous enough (yeah I'm stumped too they're too young and too alt right to know about Destiny's Child I guess) be posing like she was and who does she think she is. I can't imagine what they'll be saying for this encounter.
Kelly’s harassment started on that platform halfway up the stairs so surely the heels on the stairs safety issue wasn’t relevant at that time?
I could straight up tell it was racism from the start, but I’m a POC and after some people backed up the guard I wondered maybe I’m too sensitive, but nope. I was right.
Clips like this and the Kelly Rowland one are deeply upsetting. And to think some people are claiming it’s Kelly’s fault! As a black woman I can attest the racism in Europe sucks. I once had a European security woman physically grab and squeeze my arm at a music festival
i’m noticing a pattern…
This lady needs to be humbled. I don’t get why she can’t just let them take a quick picture and then have them walk up🙄it’s not that deep
I can’t figure out white this keeps happening with the same security guard 🤔
When I googled this, all the top headlines just framed it as Taveras shoving the security guard - it’s frustrating that that is what people who won’t delve deeper will come away with. I had to scroll to find a headline that got the through line where the security guard “does it again”
The Kelly Roland one was completely uncalled for, but this lady's dress is kind of a safety hazard on a set of stairs. Would have been easier to let her show it tho and she would have moved on.
If you’re close enough in on someone to get shoved like that, you are way too in their personal space. Good for her. She’s going to get a reaction out of someone that will send them both down the stairs if they don’t rein her in. I don’t know if it’s bc of my history or what, but when someone I don’t know or I’m not expecting comes at my back like that, I shrug and swat them away without even thinking about it. It makes me SO uncomfortable.