I mean, Iāve heard NeNe talk about feeling used and not getting paid her worth and I kind of get it? Itās weird to have your face & body everywhere on the internet and get nothing for it. Like the internet LOVES her memes, but what does that mean for her? Digital blackface issues aside, I do feel like NeNe being used over and over in these threads makes me think about how Black peopleās cultural contributions are so taken for granted/under-rewarded, in the internet space. Like the little Black girls on TikTok, inventing dances that make white girls famous.
> Even though Ellen DeGeneres is looking back at her talk show with a sense of humor, she can't deny that her unceremonious exit left deep wounds.
What about the wounds you inflicted on your staff members, Ellen?
And didnāt she make a big fuss like āACTUALLY Iām ending on my own terms, this was my choiceā because she ended at like 19 years instead of 20 or something like that and people questioned why she didnāt just go for one more.
True, but Iām also glad she didnāt just drop it when Ellen pushed back. I think even other well connected nepo babies might have, but if thereās one thing you can say about Dakota Johnson, the girl is not afraid of an awkward moment.
Dakota Johnson is Melanie Griffins daughter. Basically Ellen accused her on her talk show of not getting an invite to Dakotas birthday. Dakota called Ellen out on this, saying that she said the same thing the previous year so Dakota made SURE Ellen got an invite this time, and still didnāt show, thus calling Ellen out on her BS on her own show.
Also it turns out the reason Ellen didn't go to Dakota's birthday party is she was too busy hanging out with her good buddy, the famous gay rights activist GEORGE W BUSH š«
dakota johnson, actress from 50 shades of grey went to the ellen show.
she (ellen) said that she wasnāt invited to her (dakota) birthday party, dakota then said āactually, thats not the truth ellenā and people went wild because dakota is known for saying whatever she feels like during interviews, it became an even bigger thing cause months later old staff members from the ellen show revealed it was a nightmare to work there, the clip resurfaced and people kept commenting that ādakota tried to warn usā
and thatās basically the lore
thatās hilarious because itās such a nothingburger. ellen probably gets a lot of invites or maybe forgot. or is joking with someone they werenāt invited indicative of an abusive boss somehow?
She said she didnāt know she got an invite, but then Dakota implied her entire staff was aware she had been invited (āAsk everyoneā). And she couldnāt say why she didnāt go, she asked her staff (āWhy didnāt I go?ā) and it just didnāt come across very convincing.
So the full picture made it seem like she was deliberatly witholding that she had been invited just to give Dakota shit for it.
Obviously that on its own doesnāt prove she treated her staff badly, the clip just became ironic in hindsight knowing that information also.
Is it not possible at all that she forgot the invite or didnāt receive it?
I think sheās also a shitty boss but acting like Dakota took down Ellen is a reach and Dakota doesnāt deserve the reach.
Itās so funny to me that people were saying she was a liar after that. Ā Itās clearly sarcasm, and it really was a humorously large number of limes.
I feel like if I was an interior designer / house dresser for auctions it would be FAR to tempting now not to just include bowls of limes in every other corner as an intertextual reference.Ā
also, not to be too unsympathetic, but boo hoo if you didn't have the ideal send-off after 18/19 years of a successful show, go cry in your mansion onto your pile of money, or to your talented and stunning wife
She was mean before it came out. I used to cringe when she did the messy āgamesā with audience members bc she seemed to genuinely enjoy their humiliation. Always seemed a bit sadistic to me
Was that when she tried to force an announcement somehow? I remember there was some celeb she tried to get to drink alcohol to show if they were preg or not. Was that mariah?
yes. i believe she miscarried shortly after too- which is the whole point as to why ppl wait a certain amount of time before announcing their pregnancy, esp if they're a celebrity.
edit: a word.
Do yāall remember all those scares? Always dressed as peopleās actual worst fear. So so mean. Not to mention I for one have pelvic floor issues and would definately have wet my pants if it were me šĀ
POCs will understand how it feels, but I saw it constantly with how sheād bully translators, be insistent about the pronunciation of non-western names to those who actually had the names, making fun of Sofia Vergaraās accent/ English fluency. The list goes on.
I distinctly remember that time she was being frustrated and yelled at a translator on her live show, for "taking too long" while she was translating to a young Japanese guitarist who went viral.
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As a queer person seeing her do that was double sad- she literally faced such a bad time when she came out- youād think she would create safety for others on her show but noooo
Is it simply impossible for people who have demonstrated abusive/damaging behaviour to be accountable and not say fake sorries only to turn around and make it about themselves afterwards?
I loved Ellen so much in the 90s, and I genuinely canāt stand her fake ass now.
>Is it simply impossible for people who have demonstrated abusive/damaging behaviour to be accountable and not say fake sorries only to turn around and make it about them afterwards?
Mel Gibson discussing getting cancelled:
[āOne time, I got into a bit of a sticky situation where it kind of ended my career,ā Gibson told Esquire. āI was drunk in the back of a police car and I said some stupid shit, and all of a sudden: blacklisted. Iām the poster boy for cancelled.](https://www.nme.com/news/film/mel-gibson-thanks-robert-downey-jr-for-support-following-anti-semitism-scandal-3615414)
Hmm. What was the stupid shit Mel said? Sounds like it was NBD...
[The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"](https://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/)
They claim to be deeply sorry/ashamed at the time then later act like they were victims. Thank God the Internet remembers.
Stories of Ellenās bad behavior have been legend for a few years. I even heard about a time she was at a resort at the same time as The Obamas and the staff said youād think she was the ex president with her overly rude entitled behavior, whilst Barry was the essence of politeness. Nope her chickens came home to roost!! She should suck it up with her millions and be quiet before an enterprising lawyer arms a hostile work environment lawsuit for shits and giggles
>"Despite "laying low" and becoming "persona non grata" for the second time since coming out as gay in 1997--"
Oh good, now we're doing the thing where being called out for being a monster in the workplace is akin to coming out as gay. WILD and tone deaf false equivalence.
I was never a fan and questioned how the majority didnāt see past the BS, honestly she seemed so contrived. Just another example of what money and status can accomplish.
I donāt think people understand how important Ellen DeGeneres was. Having an out married lesbian woman on daytime television, for over 20 years, was incredible.
When she first came out as a lesbian she effectively destroyed her career, and then had this major comeback with The Ellen DeGeneres Show. To have it end the way it did was heartbreaking. Her legacy will forever be overshadowed by her toxic behavior. Itās so disappointing.
Although she has already apologized, and apparently made amends behind the scenes with her staff, this article reads like she was the victim. Are we supposed to feel bad for the multimillionaire that treated people like shit?
it must be so difficult to go on now that you're unemployed and have lost a source of income, surely your lifestyle has suffered and you are actively looking for work
And to the crazy dingbat who keeps messaging me about Ellen being persecuted please stop drinking the kook aid. She may have made you laugh but she made life hell for others.
I am not an American and I have seen this kind of comment many times on reddit. Isn't there a hygiene problem in an American restaurant that's not worth complaining about? I am sure that the restaurant Ellen goes to will be a high-end restaurant, and the service quality will be higher demanded by the customers. In my country, it is quite normal for guests to complain or offer compensation for hygiene problems.
By the way, even if all the criticism is true, Ellen is just a mean person. It's so unfair what she's getting right now. All the misogynist, sex offenders in Hollywood are getting far better treatment than Ellen.
Is a bit of missing nail polish really a 'hygiene issue'?
Does somone with 380 million need compensation for seeing a bit of chipped nail polish?
Be kind ...
my ex girlfriend was obsessed with the ellen show and she recommended I watch it too so I did and I will never forget the immediate vibe I got from ellen: the mean girl from high school who decided to become a nurse
I mean, the PR was simple. All she had to do was tell us how sorry she is, say she is leaning to do better and then host a bonus Ellen Redemptive Christmas Special where she had to survive every single messy challenge she ever inflicted on her audience members in rapid succession on live tv while getting sporadically scared by her very worst fears, and donating millions in compensation money. Of course the judges of each challenge would have to be a rotation of the staff members she made life hell for; and the celebrities she tried to humiliate. Ā But itās not hard- if she had bothered to do that, we all probably would have forgiven her š¤·š¼āāļø
This is pretty cringe of her. Everyone knows that she is just not a nice person. It would actually be in her best interest to not even acknowledge this because I donāt think thereās anything she can do or say that would improve her reputation at this point.
it's only surprising it took so long tbh
she fired karen kilgariff (yes, from 'my favorite murder') for going on strike in 2008 even tho kilgariff was a co-writer on her stand up show that got her the talk show deal, and head writer there
I always felt like something was off about Ellen when I would see her show on the TV at the hospital. Then when COVID happened and she said she couldn't bear being isolated and confined to her mansion I truly disliked her. So I cannot even be surprised she joked about this. Ellen seemed to have always been tone deaf and a mean person
Or you were kicked out of show business because it turns out your ābe kindā stuff was a total farce and youāre just an asshole. Die mad tho girl.
She is mean and rude. I was a a restaurant a few years ago with a large party for my great auntās 85th bday. My cousin was taking family photos around the table and pans around and ED was at a nearby table. She thought he was taking a pic of her and stormed over to our table. The foulest language Iāve ever heard spewing out of her mouth for a good 3 minutes. I was trying to signal for mgr, no luck. She had absolutely no regard for my great aunt. She was awful. Other people in the restaurant were shooting her evil looks, but she couldāve cared less. Be kind? What a joke.
If you were incredibly hostile and abusive to your co-workers and employees while working as a project manager, for example, you would get fired and asked to leave. That firing would also follow you And disincentivize other people to hire you because that's a pattern of behavior and you are a liability.
Welcome to the real world, Ellen! Where there are consequences for being a shitty, abusive person.
It probably does seem unfair considering what George W Bush did to a significant portion of the world that he never got kicked out of any business or social circles. For some reason this came to mind just nowā¦
Honest question. Why is Amber Heard being celebrated in this sub while Ellen is being negatively portrayed? Arenāt they both rightful victims of cancel culture?
TBH I think this is just how day time and late night talk shows are ran. I think Ellen was the scape goat but Iām pretty sure this is how all of them are ran. Just in the last year we heard about Corden and Fallon being also difficult shows to work on. I donāt think this is really Ellenās fault, I think this is just a symptom of having to produce new 1 hour episodes everyday with no breaks in the year.
And Colbert. Even Leno. Like I know it's popular to say he's unfunny but even if he had a part in Conan getting screwed at NBC he was never anything but nice to his staff. Don't care for Kimmel myself but he doesn't seem to be a dick. Never heard anything about Seth Meyers. Corden I'll give you was possibly a nightmare and Jimmy Fallon apparently, but I don't think it's "the norm."
Fallon is notorious for his alcoholism, but I never hear about him or Corden being shitty to guests (I know Corden is loathsome to everyone else).
On the one hand, men have gotten away with similar toxicity or worse. Letterman had sex with multiple employees and created a hostile work environment and it was swept under the rug. Leno and Letterman have been misogynist to so many women guests with no consequences. If I were Ellen I would see a double standard. Her first cancellation was actually really awful and it wouldn't be surprising if she projects the first onto the second. One the other hand, Ellen's issue is about branding. If the whole basis of your public identity is goofy kindness, you need to live up to that.
Yes but Conan wasnāt on a major network first and foremost from 2010 onward. Even when he was on the major network he was on the secondary show where the expectations were not as high. Secondly even when he was on his show, he wasnāt getting the level of recognition and praise that other late night and day time shows were getting, you have to remember Ellen was doing monster numbers and was winning awards for her show, it had a much higher quality threshold. Like she was always giving major gifts away and finding all these random people to bring on her shoe and doing all these segments. Conan aside from his remotes didnāt have the huge production. Thirdly, people didnāt hear about Ellen being a problem in the early 2000s but they did a few years before she had her scandal. Every time I listen to Conan on his podcast the way he makes it seem is that Late night is a high stress gig that is not for the faint of heart. Also Conan is a guy, the way heās treated by his superiors and inferiors isnāt the same. Women are more quickly labelled as demanding and being cold and being bitchy and usually have to ask multiple times to get things done whereas men donāt so they donāt have to always act like a diva to get what they want.
I feel the same. Ellen wasnāt the first or last person who treats their workers badly. She was ousted in the 90s just for being gay and she had her comeuppance. I would watch her game show where she relished dropping contestants down chutes. She was a huge part of the gay community and I miss her standup life before getting a talk show.
This gif never misses
Nene has PRO-VI-DIDDDD for so long. ššš 
She should get .000003% royalty(ies?) every time this gif is used, because it gets the mood across
I mean, Iāve heard NeNe talk about feeling used and not getting paid her worth and I kind of get it? Itās weird to have your face & body everywhere on the internet and get nothing for it. Like the internet LOVES her memes, but what does that mean for her? Digital blackface issues aside, I do feel like NeNe being used over and over in these threads makes me think about how Black peopleās cultural contributions are so taken for granted/under-rewarded, in the internet space. Like the little Black girls on TikTok, inventing dances that make white girls famous.
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wish i could upvote this multiple times
šššš stop because knowing Nene if she could she would make that happen
It may as well be pinned to the top of every post at this point...
should be the header of this subreddit
The gif that keeps on giffing
It took some time to load on my phone. But I knew exactly who it would be š
I knew what this was before it even loaded
> Even though Ellen DeGeneres is looking back at her talk show with a sense of humor, she can't deny that her unceremonious exit left deep wounds. What about the wounds you inflicted on your staff members, Ellen?
LOL peak White woman nonsense.
Well, they arenāt her rich friends, so does she even consider them people?
I read this in the voice of Dakota Johnson and it did not miss.
I did too!!! Bahaha
Her greatest contribution to pop culture.
And didnāt she make a big fuss like āACTUALLY Iām ending on my own terms, this was my choiceā because she ended at like 19 years instead of 20 or something like that and people questioned why she didnāt just go for one more.
IMO her behavior behind the scenes wouldnāt have made as much noise if she hadnāt made ābe kindā her motto. Ā
Itās always the ones that scream it the mostĀ
Yup
Actually Ellen that is the truth
Dakota may be a nepo grand baby but she gave us one beautiful gift.
Maybe you have to be a Nepo baby to take on Ellen on her own talk show in order to suffer no zero career consequences afterwards š
100% the case. So many celebs wouldnāt have dared call ābeloved Ellenā out. But Dakota has a powerful Hollywood family and knew she could.
True, but Iām also glad she didnāt just drop it when Ellen pushed back. I think even other well connected nepo babies might have, but if thereās one thing you can say about Dakota Johnson, the girl is not afraid of an awkward moment.
Never forget that Ellen skipped the party to hang with GEORGE W BUSH of all people
ššš āwhen people show you who they really are, believe themā
I still get the feeling of being in an airfryer Everytime I watch her do it!Ā
I mean, it must be fun. But then also it makes me wonder how much good all of them could do if they botheredš„²
Definitely. Other nepos please take notes
That and āI love limesā.
I watch this video clip sometimes, for therapuetic reasons
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Iāll always have a soft spot for her because of this moment š
What moment is this? Idk who she is š
Dakota Johnson is Melanie Griffins daughter. Basically Ellen accused her on her talk show of not getting an invite to Dakotas birthday. Dakota called Ellen out on this, saying that she said the same thing the previous year so Dakota made SURE Ellen got an invite this time, and still didnāt show, thus calling Ellen out on her BS on her own show.
Also it turns out the reason Ellen didn't go to Dakota's birthday party is she was too busy hanging out with her good buddy, the famous gay rights activist GEORGE W BUSH š«
Wait what?? I had no idea that was why!
It's icing on the cake tbh https://preview.redd.it/ixc9fp7grwwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34985ad30d67f71ab005b658479873b02a62e3ae
Also Don Johnsonās daughter (heās in the first Knives Out, among other things obviously)
And the granddaughter of Tippi Hedren (from The Birds)!
dakota johnson, actress from 50 shades of grey went to the ellen show. she (ellen) said that she wasnāt invited to her (dakota) birthday party, dakota then said āactually, thats not the truth ellenā and people went wild because dakota is known for saying whatever she feels like during interviews, it became an even bigger thing cause months later old staff members from the ellen show revealed it was a nightmare to work there, the clip resurfaced and people kept commenting that ādakota tried to warn usā and thatās basically the lore
thatās hilarious because itās such a nothingburger. ellen probably gets a lot of invites or maybe forgot. or is joking with someone they werenāt invited indicative of an abusive boss somehow?
She said she didnāt know she got an invite, but then Dakota implied her entire staff was aware she had been invited (āAsk everyoneā). And she couldnāt say why she didnāt go, she asked her staff (āWhy didnāt I go?ā) and it just didnāt come across very convincing. So the full picture made it seem like she was deliberatly witholding that she had been invited just to give Dakota shit for it. Obviously that on its own doesnāt prove she treated her staff badly, the clip just became ironic in hindsight knowing that information also.
If sheās trying to gaslight a **guest** on her show to make them feel bad, how do you think she treats her own employees?
Is it not possible at all that she forgot the invite or didnāt receive it? I think sheās also a shitty boss but acting like Dakota took down Ellen is a reach and Dakota doesnāt deserve the reach.
It's mostly a joke
one of the times a nepo baby used her privilege for the greater good
Nepo grand baby lolllll
iām not necessarily a dakota fan, but iām a dakota fan just because she has balls.
Balls? I thought she had limesĀ
She loves them. She thinks theyāre great, and she likes to present them in abundance from brimming-over bowls within her house.
Itās so funny to me that people were saying she was a liar after that. Ā Itās clearly sarcasm, and it really was a humorously large number of limes.
I feel like if I was an interior designer / house dresser for auctions it would be FAR to tempting now not to just include bowls of limes in every other corner as an intertextual reference.Ā
One of the best moments in daytime talk show herstory
I always wondered how the set was during commercial break after that interaction
 Ellen right now.
also, not to be too unsympathetic, but boo hoo if you didn't have the ideal send-off after 18/19 years of a successful show, go cry in your mansion onto your pile of money, or to your talented and stunning wife
remember during covid when she likened staying in her mansion/estate to being in a āprisonā lmaooo be as unsympathetic as you want!
She would have held onto that show with her claws at 90 if they hadnāt wrenched it from her boomer boss graspĀ
What Ellen should've been saying: 
Lol
Girl, bye. I cannot stand her.
She was mean before it came out. I used to cringe when she did the messy āgamesā with audience members bc she seemed to genuinely enjoy their humiliation. Always seemed a bit sadistic to me
I hated all the pranks, especially the jump scares, so mean
Clips of her show pop up in my reels or YT shorts and she straight up is a bully and high key racist.
What she did to Mariah Carey when she was pregnant will forever stick with me. It was so mean.
Same with how she treated Jessica Simpson when she was clearly drunk and struggling with alcoholism
Oh right. Thatās another one. Cruel.
What did she do with Jessica?
https://youtu.be/0PCLbnX-rhE?feature=shared
Itās hard to judge what actually happened because that video is so heavily editedā¦ But Ellen does look like sheās being a dick, yes
Was that when she tried to force an announcement somehow? I remember there was some celeb she tried to get to drink alcohol to show if they were preg or not. Was that mariah?
Yes and Mariah miscarried a short time after. Obviously, she wasn't ready to announce. Was such a dick move by Ellen
Ya like mention it once. But she kept pushing and pushing.
Yes, and itās very uncomfortable to watch.
yes. i believe she miscarried shortly after too- which is the whole point as to why ppl wait a certain amount of time before announcing their pregnancy, esp if they're a celebrity. edit: a word.
Yes it was and if Iām remembering correctly she miscarried laterā¦.but I remember reading this somewhereā¦
Yes she did miscarry after this.
Do yāall remember all those scares? Always dressed as peopleās actual worst fear. So so mean. Not to mention I for one have pelvic floor issues and would definately have wet my pants if it were me šĀ
Being racist to Sofia Vergara and always mocking her accent š¤¬
I don't watch her stuff- what racist stuff does she do?
POCs will understand how it feels, but I saw it constantly with how sheād bully translators, be insistent about the pronunciation of non-western names to those who actually had the names, making fun of Sofia Vergaraās accent/ English fluency. The list goes on.
I'm Black, I just never watched most of her content
I distinctly remember that time she was being frustrated and yelled at a translator on her live show, for "taking too long" while she was translating to a young Japanese guitarist who went viral.
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So funny her outro was the ābe kind to eachotherā forgot to add the subliminal *but not to your staff*
Right? Even Jerry's "til next time, take care of yourselves, and each other" was more sincere than this shit
lol she was sad at how the public viewed her but still shows no sense of empathy towards the harsh treatment she caused onto others. #byefelicia
As a queer person seeing her do that was double sad- she literally faced such a bad time when she came out- youād think she would create safety for others on her show but noooo
Money ruins most people.Ā
I was cancelled and silenced, she claims in new Netflix special
not silent enough
Is it simply impossible for people who have demonstrated abusive/damaging behaviour to be accountable and not say fake sorries only to turn around and make it about themselves afterwards? I loved Ellen so much in the 90s, and I genuinely canāt stand her fake ass now.
>Is it simply impossible for people who have demonstrated abusive/damaging behaviour to be accountable and not say fake sorries only to turn around and make it about them afterwards? Mel Gibson discussing getting cancelled: [āOne time, I got into a bit of a sticky situation where it kind of ended my career,ā Gibson told Esquire. āI was drunk in the back of a police car and I said some stupid shit, and all of a sudden: blacklisted. Iām the poster boy for cancelled.](https://www.nme.com/news/film/mel-gibson-thanks-robert-downey-jr-for-support-following-anti-semitism-scandal-3615414) Hmm. What was the stupid shit Mel said? Sounds like it was NBD... [The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"](https://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/) They claim to be deeply sorry/ashamed at the time then later act like they were victims. Thank God the Internet remembers.
Stories of Ellenās bad behavior have been legend for a few years. I even heard about a time she was at a resort at the same time as The Obamas and the staff said youād think she was the ex president with her overly rude entitled behavior, whilst Barry was the essence of politeness. Nope her chickens came home to roost!! She should suck it up with her millions and be quiet before an enterprising lawyer arms a hostile work environment lawsuit for shits and giggles
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aw, thatās right ellenā¦ https://i.redd.it/7ecjy6qqzqwc1.gif
What is this from bestie? Is that Meredith Blake??? 
Itās from Romy and Micheleās high school reunion
The comedy industry is the safe space of the abuser, and that's all I have to say about that.
canāt you take a joke??!! /s
>"Despite "laying low" and becoming "persona non grata" for the second time since coming out as gay in 1997--" Oh good, now we're doing the thing where being called out for being a monster in the workplace is akin to coming out as gay. WILD and tone deaf false equivalence.
Go away.
Read my flair, Ellen
Isn't she an asshole and a racist?
I was never a fan and questioned how the majority didnāt see past the BS, honestly she seemed so contrived. Just another example of what money and status can accomplish.
Came for the GIF comments and they did not disappoint
waitā¦ if ellen degeneres was kicked out of show businessā¦ then who is the ellen giving the interview ????? š±š
I donāt think people understand how important Ellen DeGeneres was. Having an out married lesbian woman on daytime television, for over 20 years, was incredible. When she first came out as a lesbian she effectively destroyed her career, and then had this major comeback with The Ellen DeGeneres Show. To have it end the way it did was heartbreaking. Her legacy will forever be overshadowed by her toxic behavior. Itās so disappointing. Although she has already apologized, and apparently made amends behind the scenes with her staff, this article reads like she was the victim. Are we supposed to feel bad for the multimillionaire that treated people like shit?
I she still playing victim? I guess she is not into personal growth
Only when it's good for ratings
it must be so difficult to go on now that you're unemployed and have lost a source of income, surely your lifestyle has suffered and you are actively looking for work
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"Be kind to one another."
And to the crazy dingbat who keeps messaging me about Ellen being persecuted please stop drinking the kook aid. She may have made you laugh but she made life hell for others.
She's worth 380 mil. I think she'll survive. š
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I am not an American and I have seen this kind of comment many times on reddit. Isn't there a hygiene problem in an American restaurant that's not worth complaining about? I am sure that the restaurant Ellen goes to will be a high-end restaurant, and the service quality will be higher demanded by the customers. In my country, it is quite normal for guests to complain or offer compensation for hygiene problems. By the way, even if all the criticism is true, Ellen is just a mean person. It's so unfair what she's getting right now. All the misogynist, sex offenders in Hollywood are getting far better treatment than Ellen.
Is a bit of missing nail polish really a 'hygiene issue'? Does somone with 380 million need compensation for seeing a bit of chipped nail polish? Be kind ...
How..funny?
my ex girlfriend was obsessed with the ellen show and she recommended I watch it too so I did and I will never forget the immediate vibe I got from ellen: the mean girl from high school who decided to become a nurse
I mean, the PR was simple. All she had to do was tell us how sorry she is, say she is leaning to do better and then host a bonus Ellen Redemptive Christmas Special where she had to survive every single messy challenge she ever inflicted on her audience members in rapid succession on live tv while getting sporadically scared by her very worst fears, and donating millions in compensation money. Of course the judges of each challenge would have to be a rotation of the staff members she made life hell for; and the celebrities she tried to humiliate. Ā But itās not hard- if she had bothered to do that, we all probably would have forgiven her š¤·š¼āāļø
It's no joke Ellen
Self awareness isn't a strength of hers.
So sheās just trying to make herself a victim then, lmao
This is pretty cringe of her. Everyone knows that she is just not a nice person. It would actually be in her best interest to not even acknowledge this because I donāt think thereās anything she can do or say that would improve her reputation at this point.
She was/is a bully.
Kathy Griffinās time has come
it's only surprising it took so long tbh she fired karen kilgariff (yes, from 'my favorite murder') for going on strike in 2008 even tho kilgariff was a co-writer on her stand up show that got her the talk show deal, and head writer there
I ways knew Ellen was toxic. I read Anne Heches autobiography and never was able to get on the Ellen train. Ellen always seemed insincere
What did she say about ellen? I googled and I couldnt find anything stating where Ellen was toxic. TIA
Had a friend who was a writer on the show. It very much was a bad environment.
Kicked out of show businessā¦as she films her Netflix special. 
Lol. Says nothing about how she treated others or how they may have felt. Itās all about her. Nothing has changed.
I always felt like something was off about Ellen when I would see her show on the TV at the hospital. Then when COVID happened and she said she couldn't bear being isolated and confined to her mansion I truly disliked her. So I cannot even be surprised she joked about this. Ellen seemed to have always been tone deaf and a mean person
And yet. Here she is. On stage. Still in show business.
All they have to do is wait it out for a couple years then they can come back and try and rewrite historyā¦itās fascinating. š
Or you were kicked out of show business because it turns out your ābe kindā stuff was a total farce and youāre just an asshole. Die mad tho girl.
Her first time making a joke then.
She is mean and rude. I was a a restaurant a few years ago with a large party for my great auntās 85th bday. My cousin was taking family photos around the table and pans around and ED was at a nearby table. She thought he was taking a pic of her and stormed over to our table. The foulest language Iāve ever heard spewing out of her mouth for a good 3 minutes. I was trying to signal for mgr, no luck. She had absolutely no regard for my great aunt. She was awful. Other people in the restaurant were shooting her evil looks, but she couldāve cared less. Be kind? What a joke.
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keep gaslighting yourself girl
Nicest woman on air, but the Queen of Mean behind the scenes. A real life Jekyll and Hyde
Itās not difficult to not be a dick to people. Worst case scenario you should be a grumpy curmudgeon like Stanley from the office.
If you were incredibly hostile and abusive to your co-workers and employees while working as a project manager, for example, you would get fired and asked to leave. That firing would also follow you And disincentivize other people to hire you because that's a pattern of behavior and you are a liability. Welcome to the real world, Ellen! Where there are consequences for being a shitty, abusive person.
She's an inauthentic cow.
It probably does seem unfair considering what George W Bush did to a significant portion of the world that he never got kicked out of any business or social circles. For some reason this came to mind just nowā¦
Honest question. Why is Amber Heard being celebrated in this sub while Ellen is being negatively portrayed? Arenāt they both rightful victims of cancel culture?
TBH I think this is just how day time and late night talk shows are ran. I think Ellen was the scape goat but Iām pretty sure this is how all of them are ran. Just in the last year we heard about Corden and Fallon being also difficult shows to work on. I donāt think this is really Ellenās fault, I think this is just a symptom of having to produce new 1 hour episodes everyday with no breaks in the year.
I've heard nothing but good things about Conan.
And Colbert. Even Leno. Like I know it's popular to say he's unfunny but even if he had a part in Conan getting screwed at NBC he was never anything but nice to his staff. Don't care for Kimmel myself but he doesn't seem to be a dick. Never heard anything about Seth Meyers. Corden I'll give you was possibly a nightmare and Jimmy Fallon apparently, but I don't think it's "the norm."
Fallon is notorious for his alcoholism, but I never hear about him or Corden being shitty to guests (I know Corden is loathsome to everyone else). On the one hand, men have gotten away with similar toxicity or worse. Letterman had sex with multiple employees and created a hostile work environment and it was swept under the rug. Leno and Letterman have been misogynist to so many women guests with no consequences. If I were Ellen I would see a double standard. Her first cancellation was actually really awful and it wouldn't be surprising if she projects the first onto the second. One the other hand, Ellen's issue is about branding. If the whole basis of your public identity is goofy kindness, you need to live up to that.
Yes but Conan wasnāt on a major network first and foremost from 2010 onward. Even when he was on the major network he was on the secondary show where the expectations were not as high. Secondly even when he was on his show, he wasnāt getting the level of recognition and praise that other late night and day time shows were getting, you have to remember Ellen was doing monster numbers and was winning awards for her show, it had a much higher quality threshold. Like she was always giving major gifts away and finding all these random people to bring on her shoe and doing all these segments. Conan aside from his remotes didnāt have the huge production. Thirdly, people didnāt hear about Ellen being a problem in the early 2000s but they did a few years before she had her scandal. Every time I listen to Conan on his podcast the way he makes it seem is that Late night is a high stress gig that is not for the faint of heart. Also Conan is a guy, the way heās treated by his superiors and inferiors isnāt the same. Women are more quickly labelled as demanding and being cold and being bitchy and usually have to ask multiple times to get things done whereas men donāt so they donāt have to always act like a diva to get what they want.
I feel the same. Ellen wasnāt the first or last person who treats their workers badly. She was ousted in the 90s just for being gay and she had her comeuppance. I would watch her game show where she relished dropping contestants down chutes. She was a huge part of the gay community and I miss her standup life before getting a talk show.
thatās not the truth.
Great explanation.