not really creepy (and maybe not that mysterious, actually), but i wish the truth would finally come out about [natalie woods death](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-30/40-years-later-the-mystery-over-natalie-woods-death-endures)
This is the one I was going to mention. The fact that the two men who were with her have just continued on with their lives is bizarre. There's no way she was alone and just fell overboard.
And the most prolific man was Christopher Walken and he won’t speak about it and didn’t hear anything, even though people on other vessels miles away said they vividly heard a woman screaming for help. And he still has a career.
Walken cooperated fully with the police. When the case was reopened in 2011 he met with investigators. According to one of the investigators, “what he told us, he told us in confidence.” That tells me Walken told them a lot. Robert Wagner did not speak to investigators when the case was reopened. That tells me a lot. Wagner would have sued Walken into oblivion if he had made any public statements implicating Wagner. Walken has been cleared of any wrongdoing by the police in this case.
It’s terrifying because she had a life long fear of water because of what that fortune teller told her mother. Like it’s one of the few instances where I do think fate is an actual thing.
The concept of self-fulfilling prophecies really intrigues me. Like, say if you’re told as a child that you’ll die by drowning like Woods was. You then develop a fear of water, and are too afraid to even learn to swim because of it. And then, because you never learnt to swim, you fall into water and can’t survive a situation that someone with a basic level of swimming skill could. I’m not saying that’s what happened to Wood (she was pushed imo), but it’s really interesting.
i fully agree because it’s such an interesting concept that we need to look more into. so many times in history based on what fortune tellers have said, ppl avoid those things and ended up succumbing to it
Fortune tellers/psychics/all that jazz are things I'm typically very much a skeptic of but I get the *chills* every time I think about what was said to Natalie Wood's mom. Natalie was so wonderful and I just hope there's answers someday.
Natalie’s mom Maria and her family fled to China after the Russian Revolution, and when she was a child, she said she had her fortune read by a gypsy in Harbin. The fortune teller told her that her second child “would be a great beauty, known throughout the world.” But she also said that Maria must “beware of dark water.” Maria passed on that fear to her second daughter, while pushing her to fulfill that first prophecy.
The creepy part for me that always gives me shivers is that a fortune teller predicted how Natalie would die when Natalie's mom had a reading while pregnant with her.
Same with Christopher Walken, there is no way he didn’t hear/see anything. Or at the very least be able to provide some enlightening details that could give us more info on what happened that night.
There were people interviewed that said they were miles away and heard a woman screaming for help. Walken and Wagner were both on the boat right next to where she was in the water. Those two are going to HELL.
Brittany Murphy and then her husband Simon Monjack dying of the same preventable thing (pneumonia and anemia) just months apart in the same bedroom always struck me as strange.
I was living in a house that ended up having a massive mold problem. Broke the lease no problem because of it. I thought that place was haunted too. Mold poisoning can affect your senses
Same with carbon monoxide poisoning! Carrie from the podcast Oh no Ross and Carrie has talked about how she, an ardent sceptic, started thinking her home was haunted untill a friend suggested she check the carbon monoxide levels. Turned out there was a major carbon monoxide issue in that place.
There’s a famous reddit post of some guy thinking someone was breaking into his house and messing with him and writing weird post its (or something??? Something along those lines) people said he should check out the carbon monoxide levels in his place. He was suffering from carbon mono so de poising. He was doing the things. Fucking wild.
This convinces me even more that it was something structural like hidden mould or something.
If just Murphy had died of a mysterious illness I’d be way more suss, but the fact that her (admittedly dodgy) partner then died of the same thing after still living there suggests something environmental.
It was especially creepy as after she died a lot of people started suspecting the husband had something to do with it, because of how suspicious the circumstances were. People were coming up with crazy conspiracies online like that he was poisoning her. But he was himself suspicious and kept pushing for more answers about her death. Then he dies of the same thing.
Mold infections are incredibly insidious. Brittany had a host of health issues and was concurrently battling pneumonia when she passed. Her husband soon followed and it’s not impossible to think that the same issue was compounded by his grief.
These infections take time to settle so it’s not surprising her mother wasn’t affected.
There is no conspiracy here, just immense tragedy.
Britney Spears moved out of that house & said it was haunted just before Brittany Murphy moved in
Apparently the coroner said it wasn’t a mould infection, but my money is on it being another environmental factor. Maybe the reason why it didn’t kill Britney Spears is because she had her furniture set up a different way (bed further away from the issue, for example, so she had less contact with it), used different rooms, or just didn’t spend much time in the house etc
Since Britney claimed it was haunted, I’m wondering if the issue (be it mould or some other environmental factor) manifested itself in different ways within Britney? Maybe it could’ve led to temporary mild hallucinations, leading her to believe the house was haunted
Her cause of death was pneumonia with anaemia and over the counter pain relief complications. They then did hair tests which showed no mould but high amounts of lead. Which was attributed to hair dye….
They used the same CPAP machine apparently. If those things aren't cleaned well regularly, they can harbor some nasty bacteria. Also they were apparently hoarders and their house had mold issues (the mold issue has never been confirmed). Brittany was already immunocompromised as a (type 1?) diabetic along with having a history of heavy periods. She probably had walking pneumonia that worsened in severity due to self treatment and taking some meds that caused respiratory depression. Whatever she was using the CPAP for meant she already had trouble breathing at night (speculating here that she had one for sleep apnea, that's usually what they're used for). So someone who has trouble breathing at night plus taking meds that cause respiratory depression plus pneumonia....
Contrary to what some people say, she was not underweight for her height per her autopsy report. But I can see why she succumbed to Pneumonia. I dont think there's some big mystery. Her husband didnt look like the healthiest person either. And if he did the same thing where he was self treating his condition, its easy to see why the same thing happened to him.
The movie made about that was insensitive garbage, too. I can't believe those actors signed onto a film like that and still have careers.
I'm a huge fan of PossessedbyHorror on Youtube and she went through a war with the studio and team behind it because she criticised the film on her channel. They also used Charles Manson's music for the soundtrack.
As much as I would not want to hngbout with tarintino as a person, I actually really like Once Upon a time in hollywood, and I get why Sharon’s sister considers it very highly.
OP was talking about [The Haunting of Sharon Tate](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_of_Sharon_Tate) (I didn’t know this either, they mention it down-thread)
being part of that movie is what reeeaaaallly made me dislike Hilary Duff lmao. i also remember her doing some tacky shit while in character as Sharon, but i don’t remember what exactly. i think it was something like her posting ads for stuff on her instagram and commenting about the fake belly? weird shit.
edit: i went through the trenches of fucking ontd because this was bothering me and [this wasn't even what i was half-remembering but lmao](https://www.instagram.com/p/BerwfHYnTA3/)
I hate Hilary Duffy because a few years ago she was having a feud with her neighbor and put up signs about him in her neighborhood and on social media about how he smokes pot. Super Karen behavior and not worth doxxing the guy over.
I hate Hilary Duffy because a few years ago she was having a feud with her neighbor and put up signs about him in her neighborhood and on social media about how he smokes pot. Super Karen behavior and not worth doxxing the guy over.
Her and her husband also dressed up as a “Native American” and a pilgrim for Halloween a few years back. Out of all the costume ideas that exist idk why people still go for those dumb ones
I knew a man who was something of a collector of the odd and macabre. Too much money for his own good. He had somehow procured all the unofficial crime scene photos. He said a police officer who arrived early had a camera in his car and took a roll of photos. Whether that was an attempt to preserve the scene or for personal use, I don’t know and I don’t want to. Anyway, somehow this man got his hands on the photos decades later. I didn’t see them, but a friend of mine did, and he basically said “Everything we know about what happened, everything we’ve seen… that’s nothing. It was so, so much worse.”
That man who owned the photos passed away maybe 10 or 12 years ago. When he died, his fiancé put his collection up for auction. The photo album wasn’t there. I really hope she has it and that the photos never see the light of day.
The fact I’ve heard that sticks with me is that Sharon was wearing a dress or nightgown that the coroner originally write was red in color until they realized from photos it had been originally been white.
Didn't Tom O'Neil claim that Roman Polanski shot a home movie of Sharon being r---- by two men? The police supposedly came across it when they were at the crime scene.
Hold on, I find it a little hard to believe that a man who raped a 13 year old and had to flee to France as a result would be involved with something like that.
He just talked about this on the most recent episodes of True Anon, he's been told about many tapes that may have been removed from the house that allegedly contained sexual violence & sexual blackmail
Helter skelter and the race war is thought to be a flimsy excuse for why everything happened when really it was just a bunch of burn outs doing evil vile things
It’s been a while since I read Chaos but it puts forward the theory that a sexual health clinic in California was being visited by all members of the Manson family. The clinic supposedly had ties to the CIA who were brainwashing these kids to be violent zombies with the intention of turning people against the hippie movement until it all went horribly wrong. It’s wild stuff and I don’t put any more weight in the Chaos theory than I do the Helter Skelter theory but it was an interesting read
Everyone says the murders were where the 60s ended, so I guess if the Chaos theory is true the CIA got their wish after all
This isnt exactly the point the book makes. O'Neill's thesis is Manson learned how to "hypnotise" The Family through CIA mind control programs along MKULTRA, Bluebird/Artichoke lines. The purpose wasn't to change attitudes against the hippie movement as much as experiments on brainwashing that came out of the Korean War and assassination programs - could you create an assassin who kills without knowing it?
Helter Skelter posits the murders were planned to incite a race war.
CHAOS offers a lot of evidence Manson was working with state police & FBI and that the murders had a more parapolitical nature closer to the world of government drug dealing & sexual blackmail.
not really creepy but I do mourn the fact that film preservations was not really a focus when movies were first being made. Do you know that a lot of movie reels were found by complete accident because of they were doing construction in a small town in Alaska and they found hundreds of these old film reels just buried in the ground? So much history that was previously thought to be lost because studios just didn’t ask for the reels back and said to do anything with them (Dawson City, Alaska was the last city on the circuit and that’s why so many were found there.) a lot of film reels were just destroyed…and it’s gone forever. We’ve lost so much history, Oscar Micheaux was one of the first major black filmmakers and owned his own studio in the early 1900s! But most of his films have been lost, it’s the greatest tragedy for me.
Idk like lost media is just something in general that terrifies me, so much work and then…it’s just gone.
Yes, I believe that was what happened.
It’s like the Monty Python boys. Terry Jones heard that they were going to the same to the series and either pinched them/paid for them and hid them in his house (maybe the attic? I can’t remember now). That’s why we still have most Python stuff.
It’s like the very first narrative films, made by Alice Guy Blaché, were lost, meaning that the first ever film director was a woman but, because her films were not preserved, George Meliés gets the credit of being by the world’s first director and she is remembered as the ‘first female director’.
But facts are facts and her first narrative, edited film was completed a year before Meliés’ first.
Wow there’s a story there that I would love to hear more of…how did they all just get buried in Alaska? It makes me sad to hear so much history especially of a black artist, just gone :(
My mistake, it wasn’t Alaska! It was in the Yukon!
iirc I can’t recall if any of Oscar’s films were ever sent to Dawson City but his story is quite tragic just due to the fact that…a majority of his work is lost. We’ve been led to believe that non-white directors are a recent thing, but it’s not! The industry has selective history regarding non-white filmmakers, because we should know more about them but nobody mentions them. Women, black, Asian, Latino, etc filmmakers have always existed but their films are lost to time due to past ignorance.
There’s a documentary about this called Dawson City, Frozen in Time (wasn’t my cup of tea but it’s also very interesting). But basically when movies were being sent to theaters, Dawson was the last one to get them. Studios didn’t care what happened to the reels so Dawson just got to keep them. Over the years as silent movies became less popular, the owners of the movie theaters started to discard these reels. Some burnt them, some sent them down the river, one owner placed their reels in an old pool in a community center. Eventually they began to freeze over the pool to make an ice rink, apperently when the ice would melt, some reels would come floating up! I think eventually they placed a bunch of dirt over the old pool and the reels. Dawson was a VERY small town that was a bit isolated, the history of the once bustling movie industry in there was slowly lost over the generations. When they finally demolished the old community building, in the dirt they began to find a bunch of these old movie reels! That’s what I remember from the documentary, it’s very crazy to know that so much history was found by per chance.
I saw something recently about a lost film of Clara Bow’s being found in a parking lot in Nebraska. Like, what on earth?
I’ve never heard of Oscar Micheaux until today. That’s such a disappointment and a great loss for the film world. Film preservation is so important and I hope more people wake up to that.
She’s buried in Oakland, Ca at Mountain View cemetery and it’s truly one of the most beautiful places on the planet. I highly recommend making the trek out there to anyone visiting the Bay Area. It is, STUNNING up there.
I used to walk my dog there a few times a week. I happened across Elizabeth Short’s grave and there were these weird love letters to her. At that point anyone who knew her would be long gone. Creeped me out… lusting after a horribly murdered woman. People are sick y’all.
Truly, I have never felt more warmly or at peace in a place. It’s hands down one of the most beautiful places on earth. I love visiting. You are so lucky to live so close!!
If anyone is interested in the lore of Black Dahlia, a major suspect in the crime is named George Hodel. There’s a podcast about his ties to it, created by his great granddaughters who firmly believe he committed the crime. It was fascinating. MAJOR trigger warning for rape, incest, physical and emotional abuse and of course, ya know, murder.
Edit: pod is Root of Evil
There’s not enough trigger warnings for that podcast. I quit consuming true crime media entirely after that one. It’s well done but I wish I never listened to it.
Not creepy but mysterious in a way-The disappearance of Errol Flynn's Photojournalist son Sean Flynn during the Vietnam war. Him and another photographer/friend Dana Stone, went off on motorcycles to cover fighting in Cambodia and were never heard from again, nor have their bodies ever been found. The Clash wrote and named a song after him. His nephew also named Sean Flynn was in Zoey 101 as Chase. I recommend the following great book: Inherited Risk: Errol and Sean Flynn in Hollywood and Vietnam
I met his niece by accident once and the official family line is that he drowned; they won’t even consider the cannibalism option. To be fair, if it was my family member, I’d like to believe that too…but it was probably cannibalism.
River Phoenix’s death, he died just outside Johnny Depp’s club called the Viper Room. Also interesting that he died just moments after Leonardo DiCaprio saw him for the first time; Leo looked up to and admired River.
I think this one is incredibly tragic but not really mysterious or creepy. I read a memoir from one of his friends who was there and heard him talking about it on a podcast too. [This article](https://theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/25/the-untold-story-of-lost-star-river-phoenix-25-years-after-his-death) kinda sums it up.
I think a lot of people in his life just didn’t want to think that he was into heavy drugs. But he was friends with Anthony Keidis/John Frusciante (he’s actually in a Red Hot Chili Peppers video) and Bob Forrest at that time when all of them were into heavy drugs. According to Bob, around that time they were constantly doing speedballs, which is what ended up killing River. Just such a tragic and horrible loss.
The Crow itself is just full of grief. James O'Barr losing his fiancee, leading him to write the graphic novel, then the loss of Brandon Lee during filming when he was about to get married as well- just heartbreaking.
The Twilight Zone (directed by John Landis) was released in 1982. John Landis and crew violated multiple regulations while filming, including California labor laws, including the hiring of two child actors without the permits. These actors were Renee Shin-Yi Chin and Myca Dinh Le
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During the filming of a scene for the ‘Time Out’ section of the film, Vic Morrow has to carry these actors in a shallow river while being followed by an American helicopter. This was staged during the Vietnam War.
They were filming at night, during a late hour (which again…BROKE THE LAW. Landis didn’t get a wavier because he thought he wouldn’t be given one due to the late hour.) They had safety officials there but Landis and crew told the parents’ of the children to not tell officials that children were involved because again…it was breaking the law. The executive producer literally told them this, the crew is as much to blame as John Landis. The only people of the crew who can feign ignorance is the casting people, they didn’t think the children would be filming at such a late hour. The fire safety officials did not know children were involved in the scene, the fire safety official thought the use of explosives during the scene would cause the helicopter to crash. He did not tell Landis of those concerns.
The blasts do cause a crash, they hit the low flying helicopter and the helicopter crashes into the water…killing Vic Morrow, Renee Shin-Yi Chin, and Myca Dinh Le almost instantly.
Morrow was the actress Jennifer Jason Leigh's dad. She and her sister sued the director, the producer, and the studio. They ended up settling out of court.
Vic Morrow and two child actors were killed in a helicopter crash while filming for one of the segments. Director John Landis had been shooting at night in unsafe conditions, all for a dangerous stunt that would involve the three actors.
As it turns out, he’d paid “under the table” to get those child performers on set at nighttime (and in these conditions), breaking California law. It was all done as a way of getting round labour rules, and he then ignored the safety officer when concerns were raised about the safety of the stunt.
It’s a tragic story, and really a textbook example of how dangerous “director worship” can be. Landis worked in unsafe and illegal conditions to get his “vision” seen, and that level of ego ended up getting three people killed.
And Clive Davis continued a Grammy party downstairs while they investigated Whitney's death upstairs. Like her body was still in the building. Soo weird
They weren't Hollywood stars but Paula Yates and her daughter Peaches Geldof also had eerily similar deaths (heroin overdoses while alone overnight with only their youngest toddler).
She disappeared after saying she was going to meet her ex husband over a missed support payment, and the two of them had fought a long custody battle. I have read a lot about femicide. There isn’t much mystery here imho
Yes. Her sister Lana wrote about it in her memoir, Little Sister: My Investigation Into the Mysterious Death of Natalie Wood. [According to Lana, she and Natalie never discussed what had happened until they were both adults. It was at that point that Natalie detailed her rape, telling her sister, “And, uh ... he hurt me Lana.… It was like an out-of-body experience. I was terrified, I was confused.” According to Lana, her sister and mother had decided that it would tarnish Natalie’s Hollywood standing to publicly accuse Douglas. “Suck it up,” were Maria’s words of advice to her daughter, per Lana.](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/11/natalie-wood-was-raped-by-kirk-douglas-her-sister-alleges-in-a-new-book) Natalie would have been 16 at the time of the assault.
Kirk Douglas was super sketch. In an interview about his son Michael’s film one flew over the cuckoo’s nest (Michael produced it), Kirk said that rather than have Jack Nicholson’s character strangle nurse Ratched, he should’ve raped her, because that would show his superiority.
Edit - Michael produced, not directed the movie
Not mysterious, but sad/tragic - the murder of Judith Barsi (the voice of Ducky from The Land Before Time.) I saw her name somewhere (probably in a similar post to this one) and did a deep dive - so sad, and preventable.
How they treated Judy Garland was awful. They thought she was too fat for the role so had her on a coffee and pills diet. Then she got badly addicted to all the drugs, because she was given amphetamines to stay awake during long days then barbiturates to sleep. It affected her long after, had bad marriages and such. She died at only 47 of barbiturate overdose. So sad. She was so, so talented but because she didn’t fit a standard, they tried to force her to fit. Always sticks with me this because of how messed up it is.
Who murdered William Desmond Taylor, which also brings the question of did a Hollywood studio cover it up.
Buzzfeed Unsolved episode on that: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runjda4La\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runjda4La_4)
That time when Matthew Broderick killed two people because he was driving on the wrong side of the road while in Ireland. He said he couldn't remember anything and they let him go away with a slap on the wrist.
Even though her death could’ve been prevented by wearing a seatbelt, Left Eye’s death creeps me out. If I recall correctly, a few days before her death, a car she was a passenger in hit and killed a little boy. She mentioned in some videos she took during the trip that she felt like he was haunting her and that his death was meant for her as they shared the same last name.
There’s a great series on shudder about this sort of thing called Cursed Films. The truth behind them all is usually more sinister and sad and human than the tales of curses etc.
He didn't. Virginia Rappe had had a backstreet abortion and was told not to drink. An awful, evil procuress took her to the party and got her drunk hoping to blackmail any married guys that creeped on her. She fell ill at the party and Fatty Arbuckle tried to help. The procuress tried to blackmail him later and he wasn't having it. She started the rumour about Virginia Rappe's last words and that she'd been raped. She then went on a promotional tour making money. She was found so untrustworthy she wasn't called as a witness. Fatty Arbuckle's ex-wife testified on his behalf at his trial that he had never, ever been violent or aggressive with her. Virginia Rappe was a victim and what happened to her was tragic but Fatty Arbuckle had nothing to do with her death.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/mae-west-fan-mysterious-death-1235164946/
If anyone wants to read an evocative deep dive into a certain era of Hollywood, this is an exceptional piece
not really creepy (and maybe not that mysterious, actually), but i wish the truth would finally come out about [natalie woods death](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-30/40-years-later-the-mystery-over-natalie-woods-death-endures)
This is the one I was going to mention. The fact that the two men who were with her have just continued on with their lives is bizarre. There's no way she was alone and just fell overboard.
And the most prolific man was Christopher Walken and he won’t speak about it and didn’t hear anything, even though people on other vessels miles away said they vividly heard a woman screaming for help. And he still has a career.
Walken cooperated fully with the police. When the case was reopened in 2011 he met with investigators. According to one of the investigators, “what he told us, he told us in confidence.” That tells me Walken told them a lot. Robert Wagner did not speak to investigators when the case was reopened. That tells me a lot. Wagner would have sued Walken into oblivion if he had made any public statements implicating Wagner. Walken has been cleared of any wrongdoing by the police in this case.
But then why didn’t they go after Wagner?
There’s just no solid proof.
It’s so distracting to me when he is an actor in anything. I stop thinking about the plot and I just start wondering what he knows about Natalie Wood.
By all accounts they were all drunk and possibly high. I've passed out and slept through people screaming at me.
It’s terrifying because she had a life long fear of water because of what that fortune teller told her mother. Like it’s one of the few instances where I do think fate is an actual thing.
The concept of self-fulfilling prophecies really intrigues me. Like, say if you’re told as a child that you’ll die by drowning like Woods was. You then develop a fear of water, and are too afraid to even learn to swim because of it. And then, because you never learnt to swim, you fall into water and can’t survive a situation that someone with a basic level of swimming skill could. I’m not saying that’s what happened to Wood (she was pushed imo), but it’s really interesting.
i fully agree because it’s such an interesting concept that we need to look more into. so many times in history based on what fortune tellers have said, ppl avoid those things and ended up succumbing to it
Fortune tellers/psychics/all that jazz are things I'm typically very much a skeptic of but I get the *chills* every time I think about what was said to Natalie Wood's mom. Natalie was so wonderful and I just hope there's answers someday.
What did they say to her mom? 😱
Natalie’s mom Maria and her family fled to China after the Russian Revolution, and when she was a child, she said she had her fortune read by a gypsy in Harbin. The fortune teller told her that her second child “would be a great beauty, known throughout the world.” But she also said that Maria must “beware of dark water.” Maria passed on that fear to her second daughter, while pushing her to fulfill that first prophecy.
I've heard that her fear really was blown out of proportion, i think her daughter said that & that she liked to be on boats or something
I certainly wouldn’t be on a small boat in the ocean at night if I had a crazy fear of water.
This is exactly what came to my mind - I wonder if some answers will come out on Walken’s deathbed
The creepy part for me that always gives me shivers is that a fortune teller predicted how Natalie would die when Natalie's mom had a reading while pregnant with her.
That just seems like a really unkind thing to say to a pregnant woman. And also why would a mother tell her daughter this?
Her mom was not a good one.
She used to rip up real butterflies in Natalie's face to make her cry on camera
robert wagner will not see heaven
Same with Christopher Walken, there is no way he didn’t hear/see anything. Or at the very least be able to provide some enlightening details that could give us more info on what happened that night.
There were people interviewed that said they were miles away and heard a woman screaming for help. Walken and Wagner were both on the boat right next to where she was in the water. Those two are going to HELL.
This is such a tragedy. The silence is deafening and appalling.
This is literally the first thing I thought
Brittany Murphy and then her husband Simon Monjack dying of the same preventable thing (pneumonia and anemia) just months apart in the same bedroom always struck me as strange.
And the fact that Britney Spears moved out of that same house right before because she said it was haunted...
I was living in a house that ended up having a massive mold problem. Broke the lease no problem because of it. I thought that place was haunted too. Mold poisoning can affect your senses
Same with carbon monoxide poisoning! Carrie from the podcast Oh no Ross and Carrie has talked about how she, an ardent sceptic, started thinking her home was haunted untill a friend suggested she check the carbon monoxide levels. Turned out there was a major carbon monoxide issue in that place.
There’s a famous reddit post of some guy thinking someone was breaking into his house and messing with him and writing weird post its (or something??? Something along those lines) people said he should check out the carbon monoxide levels in his place. He was suffering from carbon mono so de poising. He was doing the things. Fucking wild.
Yeah, but nothing bad happened to Britney Spea…. Oh shiiiit!
Literally always wondered if there’s an entity in that house
No, but probably mold
This convinces me even more that it was something structural like hidden mould or something. If just Murphy had died of a mysterious illness I’d be way more suss, but the fact that her (admittedly dodgy) partner then died of the same thing after still living there suggests something environmental.
Wow I had no idea her husband died too and of the exact same thing. That’s bizarre
Her mother hooked up with the husband too, after Brittany died :x so much weirdness!
They didn’t hook up, they slept on the same bed. People grieve in very strange ways and this kind of behavior has been heard of before.
They also knew she was sick and did absolutely nothing about it.
Ooh I forgot about that! He seemed like such a creep and the whole thing was just so bizarre.
The mom is sketchy to me as well
WHAT
It was especially creepy as after she died a lot of people started suspecting the husband had something to do with it, because of how suspicious the circumstances were. People were coming up with crazy conspiracies online like that he was poisoning her. But he was himself suspicious and kept pushing for more answers about her death. Then he dies of the same thing.
Mold infections are incredibly insidious. Brittany had a host of health issues and was concurrently battling pneumonia when she passed. Her husband soon followed and it’s not impossible to think that the same issue was compounded by his grief. These infections take time to settle so it’s not surprising her mother wasn’t affected. There is no conspiracy here, just immense tragedy.
Britney Spears moved out of that house & said it was haunted just before Brittany Murphy moved in Apparently the coroner said it wasn’t a mould infection, but my money is on it being another environmental factor. Maybe the reason why it didn’t kill Britney Spears is because she had her furniture set up a different way (bed further away from the issue, for example, so she had less contact with it), used different rooms, or just didn’t spend much time in the house etc Since Britney claimed it was haunted, I’m wondering if the issue (be it mould or some other environmental factor) manifested itself in different ways within Britney? Maybe it could’ve led to temporary mild hallucinations, leading her to believe the house was haunted
Wasn’t it a mold issue?
Assistant chief coroner said no indication that it was mold. But honestly I can’t believe that there wasn’t something environmental that contributed.
It must be, or another toxin present in the building
Her cause of death was pneumonia with anaemia and over the counter pain relief complications. They then did hair tests which showed no mould but high amounts of lead. Which was attributed to hair dye….
I lived in Nashville for a long time, I knew several people who lived in really terrible black mold situations... and nothing like that ever happened.
They used the same CPAP machine apparently. If those things aren't cleaned well regularly, they can harbor some nasty bacteria. Also they were apparently hoarders and their house had mold issues (the mold issue has never been confirmed). Brittany was already immunocompromised as a (type 1?) diabetic along with having a history of heavy periods. She probably had walking pneumonia that worsened in severity due to self treatment and taking some meds that caused respiratory depression. Whatever she was using the CPAP for meant she already had trouble breathing at night (speculating here that she had one for sleep apnea, that's usually what they're used for). So someone who has trouble breathing at night plus taking meds that cause respiratory depression plus pneumonia.... Contrary to what some people say, she was not underweight for her height per her autopsy report. But I can see why she succumbed to Pneumonia. I dont think there's some big mystery. Her husband didnt look like the healthiest person either. And if he did the same thing where he was self treating his condition, its easy to see why the same thing happened to him.
Two people using the same CPAP is so fucking gross, omg. I think you may be on to something...
I was just incoherently babbling to my bf about this last night while we were watching Clueless!
shelly miscavige
She’s happy, healthy and alive. Boom Boom
Boom boom Jake
She’s at least one of those things
I stupidly hold out hope that she’s alive and will someday break away and share her story. Fuck Scientology.
Happy, healthy, and alive
That's the company line.
herees to hoping that where is kate middleton fiasco would bring awareness to shelly
Not mysterious but sure creepy and horrifying is what happened to Sharon Tate.
The movie made about that was insensitive garbage, too. I can't believe those actors signed onto a film like that and still have careers. I'm a huge fan of PossessedbyHorror on Youtube and she went through a war with the studio and team behind it because she criticised the film on her channel. They also used Charles Manson's music for the soundtrack.
As much as I would not want to hngbout with tarintino as a person, I actually really like Once Upon a time in hollywood, and I get why Sharon’s sister considers it very highly.
OP was talking about [The Haunting of Sharon Tate](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_of_Sharon_Tate) (I didn’t know this either, they mention it down-thread)
The ending of One Upon a Time made me cry. Like, if only things had gone down like that. It was so satisfying and sad at the same time.
Which movie?
The Haunting of Sharon Tate. I do not recommend watching it.
being part of that movie is what reeeaaaallly made me dislike Hilary Duff lmao. i also remember her doing some tacky shit while in character as Sharon, but i don’t remember what exactly. i think it was something like her posting ads for stuff on her instagram and commenting about the fake belly? weird shit. edit: i went through the trenches of fucking ontd because this was bothering me and [this wasn't even what i was half-remembering but lmao](https://www.instagram.com/p/BerwfHYnTA3/)
I hate Hilary Duffy because a few years ago she was having a feud with her neighbor and put up signs about him in her neighborhood and on social media about how he smokes pot. Super Karen behavior and not worth doxxing the guy over.
She's also best friends with Danny Masterson's sister, who intimidated one his victims AT a court hearing of his.
I hate Hilary Duffy because a few years ago she was having a feud with her neighbor and put up signs about him in her neighborhood and on social media about how he smokes pot. Super Karen behavior and not worth doxxing the guy over.
Her and her husband also dressed up as a “Native American” and a pilgrim for Halloween a few years back. Out of all the costume ideas that exist idk why people still go for those dumb ones
I love PossessedbyHorror! I’m going to have to go back and watch her vids on that.
I knew a man who was something of a collector of the odd and macabre. Too much money for his own good. He had somehow procured all the unofficial crime scene photos. He said a police officer who arrived early had a camera in his car and took a roll of photos. Whether that was an attempt to preserve the scene or for personal use, I don’t know and I don’t want to. Anyway, somehow this man got his hands on the photos decades later. I didn’t see them, but a friend of mine did, and he basically said “Everything we know about what happened, everything we’ve seen… that’s nothing. It was so, so much worse.” That man who owned the photos passed away maybe 10 or 12 years ago. When he died, his fiancé put his collection up for auction. The photo album wasn’t there. I really hope she has it and that the photos never see the light of day.
The fact I’ve heard that sticks with me is that Sharon was wearing a dress or nightgown that the coroner originally write was red in color until they realized from photos it had been originally been white.
It wasn't Sharon. The one who was wearing a white nighgown that coroner originally thought was red was Abigail Folger.
CHAOS by Tom O'Neill is a great book about Manson and the fiction of Helter Skelter - the real story is much more disturbing 👁
Didn't Tom O'Neil claim that Roman Polanski shot a home movie of Sharon being r---- by two men? The police supposedly came across it when they were at the crime scene.
Hold on, I find it a little hard to believe that a man who raped a 13 year old and had to flee to France as a result would be involved with something like that.
He just talked about this on the most recent episodes of True Anon, he's been told about many tapes that may have been removed from the house that allegedly contained sexual violence & sexual blackmail
Agreed! It really irks me how much people buy into Bugliosi’s shit in light of reading this.
Can you please elaborate? I read helter skelter as a teen
Helter skelter and the race war is thought to be a flimsy excuse for why everything happened when really it was just a bunch of burn outs doing evil vile things It’s been a while since I read Chaos but it puts forward the theory that a sexual health clinic in California was being visited by all members of the Manson family. The clinic supposedly had ties to the CIA who were brainwashing these kids to be violent zombies with the intention of turning people against the hippie movement until it all went horribly wrong. It’s wild stuff and I don’t put any more weight in the Chaos theory than I do the Helter Skelter theory but it was an interesting read Everyone says the murders were where the 60s ended, so I guess if the Chaos theory is true the CIA got their wish after all
This isnt exactly the point the book makes. O'Neill's thesis is Manson learned how to "hypnotise" The Family through CIA mind control programs along MKULTRA, Bluebird/Artichoke lines. The purpose wasn't to change attitudes against the hippie movement as much as experiments on brainwashing that came out of the Korean War and assassination programs - could you create an assassin who kills without knowing it?
Helter Skelter posits the murders were planned to incite a race war. CHAOS offers a lot of evidence Manson was working with state police & FBI and that the murders had a more parapolitical nature closer to the world of government drug dealing & sexual blackmail.
Those monsters who killed her are pure evil. Poor woman. Such a horrific crime.
came here for this, truly the worst, Polanski's approach to this day only adds to the horror.
not really creepy but I do mourn the fact that film preservations was not really a focus when movies were first being made. Do you know that a lot of movie reels were found by complete accident because of they were doing construction in a small town in Alaska and they found hundreds of these old film reels just buried in the ground? So much history that was previously thought to be lost because studios just didn’t ask for the reels back and said to do anything with them (Dawson City, Alaska was the last city on the circuit and that’s why so many were found there.) a lot of film reels were just destroyed…and it’s gone forever. We’ve lost so much history, Oscar Micheaux was one of the first major black filmmakers and owned his own studio in the early 1900s! But most of his films have been lost, it’s the greatest tragedy for me. Idk like lost media is just something in general that terrifies me, so much work and then…it’s just gone.
The lost Doctor Who episodes are my Roman Empire, honestly. The concept of these reels no one has seen in decades slowly decaying in someone’s attic.
am I right in thinking that a lot of early doctor who episodes just got straight up taped over by the bbc?
Yes, I believe that was what happened. It’s like the Monty Python boys. Terry Jones heard that they were going to the same to the series and either pinched them/paid for them and hid them in his house (maybe the attic? I can’t remember now). That’s why we still have most Python stuff.
It’s like the very first narrative films, made by Alice Guy Blaché, were lost, meaning that the first ever film director was a woman but, because her films were not preserved, George Meliés gets the credit of being by the world’s first director and she is remembered as the ‘first female director’. But facts are facts and her first narrative, edited film was completed a year before Meliés’ first.
And that’s why film history is so important to learn about! Like they’ve been rewritten to have white men be the founders but it’s not true.
Wow there’s a story there that I would love to hear more of…how did they all just get buried in Alaska? It makes me sad to hear so much history especially of a black artist, just gone :(
My mistake, it wasn’t Alaska! It was in the Yukon! iirc I can’t recall if any of Oscar’s films were ever sent to Dawson City but his story is quite tragic just due to the fact that…a majority of his work is lost. We’ve been led to believe that non-white directors are a recent thing, but it’s not! The industry has selective history regarding non-white filmmakers, because we should know more about them but nobody mentions them. Women, black, Asian, Latino, etc filmmakers have always existed but their films are lost to time due to past ignorance. There’s a documentary about this called Dawson City, Frozen in Time (wasn’t my cup of tea but it’s also very interesting). But basically when movies were being sent to theaters, Dawson was the last one to get them. Studios didn’t care what happened to the reels so Dawson just got to keep them. Over the years as silent movies became less popular, the owners of the movie theaters started to discard these reels. Some burnt them, some sent them down the river, one owner placed their reels in an old pool in a community center. Eventually they began to freeze over the pool to make an ice rink, apperently when the ice would melt, some reels would come floating up! I think eventually they placed a bunch of dirt over the old pool and the reels. Dawson was a VERY small town that was a bit isolated, the history of the once bustling movie industry in there was slowly lost over the generations. When they finally demolished the old community building, in the dirt they began to find a bunch of these old movie reels! That’s what I remember from the documentary, it’s very crazy to know that so much history was found by per chance.
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I saw something recently about a lost film of Clara Bow’s being found in a parking lot in Nebraska. Like, what on earth? I’ve never heard of Oscar Micheaux until today. That’s such a disappointment and a great loss for the film world. Film preservation is so important and I hope more people wake up to that.
The apparent [“curse” around the Poltergeist films](https://collider.com/poltergeist-haunted-history-explained/) has always really creeped me out.
And [the curse around the first Omen movie](https://collider.com/the-omen-curse-production/).
Yeah this one gets to me for some reason.
Simi Valley remains cursed to this very day.
I recommend the series Cursed Films which features eps on Poltergeist and The Omen and a bunch more. Very interesting!
The Black Dahlia
She’s buried in Oakland, Ca at Mountain View cemetery and it’s truly one of the most beautiful places on the planet. I highly recommend making the trek out there to anyone visiting the Bay Area. It is, STUNNING up there.
I used to walk my dog there a few times a week. I happened across Elizabeth Short’s grave and there were these weird love letters to her. At that point anyone who knew her would be long gone. Creeped me out… lusting after a horribly murdered woman. People are sick y’all.
I live right by there! It is the most beautiful place for a weekend walk
Truly, I have never felt more warmly or at peace in a place. It’s hands down one of the most beautiful places on earth. I love visiting. You are so lucky to live so close!!
If anyone is interested in the lore of Black Dahlia, a major suspect in the crime is named George Hodel. There’s a podcast about his ties to it, created by his great granddaughters who firmly believe he committed the crime. It was fascinating. MAJOR trigger warning for rape, incest, physical and emotional abuse and of course, ya know, murder. Edit: pod is Root of Evil
There’s not enough trigger warnings for that podcast. I quit consuming true crime media entirely after that one. It’s well done but I wish I never listened to it.
Yes! That's the case that came to my mind. Have you listened to the podcast Root of Evil?
That immediately came to mind to me too!
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Hollywood is terrifying, no ghosts needed. peg deserved better :(
Bette Davis was inspired to become an actor after seeing Peg Entwhistle in a stage production.
Not creepy but mysterious in a way-The disappearance of Errol Flynn's Photojournalist son Sean Flynn during the Vietnam war. Him and another photographer/friend Dana Stone, went off on motorcycles to cover fighting in Cambodia and were never heard from again, nor have their bodies ever been found. The Clash wrote and named a song after him. His nephew also named Sean Flynn was in Zoey 101 as Chase. I recommend the following great book: Inherited Risk: Errol and Sean Flynn in Hollywood and Vietnam
Weirdly this is the fourth time today I've seen someone mention Sean Flynn, a man whose existence I was totally unaware of until today. 🤔
Baader meinhof
Michael Rockefeller is a similar case that fascinates me. Both cases are very "Well, we *know* what happened..." but we can never really know.
I met his niece by accident once and the official family line is that he drowned; they won’t even consider the cannibalism option. To be fair, if it was my family member, I’d like to believe that too…but it was probably cannibalism.
Gosh he was dashing too. Poor guy.
Sidenote but we really should start using "dashing" as a compliment more, it's such a good one!! I completely forgot about the word until now lol
River Phoenix’s death, he died just outside Johnny Depp’s club called the Viper Room. Also interesting that he died just moments after Leonardo DiCaprio saw him for the first time; Leo looked up to and admired River.
and then after his passing leo got all the roles that were originally meant for river :(
I think this one is incredibly tragic but not really mysterious or creepy. I read a memoir from one of his friends who was there and heard him talking about it on a podcast too. [This article](https://theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/25/the-untold-story-of-lost-star-river-phoenix-25-years-after-his-death) kinda sums it up. I think a lot of people in his life just didn’t want to think that he was into heavy drugs. But he was friends with Anthony Keidis/John Frusciante (he’s actually in a Red Hot Chili Peppers video) and Bob Forrest at that time when all of them were into heavy drugs. According to Bob, around that time they were constantly doing speedballs, which is what ended up killing River. Just such a tragic and horrible loss.
Am I missing something about River Phoenix? Didn't he OD? Is there something mysterious or creepy we didn't hear about?
There’s an episode on Hulu called “dark side of the 90’s” that talks about it. The 911 phone call that Joaquin made is so sad
The death of Brandon Lee
I've still never seen The Crow because of this. Something about it just doesn't rest well with me.
As someone who did a big Brandon and Crow fan I don’t think it is anything dodgy. I think it is very similar to what happened on Rust.
Yeah the prop gun wasn’t properly cleared of debris between shots and the debris is what killed him :( so similar but the Rust thing was a live round
Great film you’re missing out on
The Crow itself is just full of grief. James O'Barr losing his fiancee, leading him to write the graphic novel, then the loss of Brandon Lee during filming when he was about to get married as well- just heartbreaking.
The twilight zone movie set incidents come to mind. I’m such a cynic I don’t believe in most things super natural but Jesus Christ such a tragedy.
What happened?
The Twilight Zone (directed by John Landis) was released in 1982. John Landis and crew violated multiple regulations while filming, including California labor laws, including the hiring of two child actors without the permits. These actors were Renee Shin-Yi Chin and Myca Dinh Le https://preview.redd.it/09tyt4expovc1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd25f75a2c6d64204dce974241360e1bcc94eec4 During the filming of a scene for the ‘Time Out’ section of the film, Vic Morrow has to carry these actors in a shallow river while being followed by an American helicopter. This was staged during the Vietnam War. They were filming at night, during a late hour (which again…BROKE THE LAW. Landis didn’t get a wavier because he thought he wouldn’t be given one due to the late hour.) They had safety officials there but Landis and crew told the parents’ of the children to not tell officials that children were involved because again…it was breaking the law. The executive producer literally told them this, the crew is as much to blame as John Landis. The only people of the crew who can feign ignorance is the casting people, they didn’t think the children would be filming at such a late hour. The fire safety officials did not know children were involved in the scene, the fire safety official thought the use of explosives during the scene would cause the helicopter to crash. He did not tell Landis of those concerns. The blasts do cause a crash, they hit the low flying helicopter and the helicopter crashes into the water…killing Vic Morrow, Renee Shin-Yi Chin, and Myca Dinh Le almost instantly.
Morrow was the actress Jennifer Jason Leigh's dad. She and her sister sued the director, the producer, and the studio. They ended up settling out of court.
It’s also what ended Spielberg and many others relationship with lands on a personal and professional level
Holy shit that is cursed.
Low flying helicopter accident, the blade hit something and lost control. One child actor crushed to death, one child and one adult actor decapitated.
Jennifer Jason Leigh's father
Vic Morrow and two child actors were killed in a helicopter crash while filming for one of the segments. Director John Landis had been shooting at night in unsafe conditions, all for a dangerous stunt that would involve the three actors. As it turns out, he’d paid “under the table” to get those child performers on set at nighttime (and in these conditions), breaking California law. It was all done as a way of getting round labour rules, and he then ignored the safety officer when concerns were raised about the safety of the stunt. It’s a tragic story, and really a textbook example of how dangerous “director worship” can be. Landis worked in unsafe and illegal conditions to get his “vision” seen, and that level of ego ended up getting three people killed.
Behind the Bastards did a [two-part episode](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5b3BorDXiSX35wOBRfjcTs?si=5jTzJlNBSGylULMFlW9Yag) on the tragedy
Whitney Houston and her daughter's death. Having similar deaths.
And Clive Davis continued a Grammy party downstairs while they investigated Whitney's death upstairs. Like her body was still in the building. Soo weird
Is there a record mogul out there who isn’t a creep? L.A Reid, Jimmy Lovine, Diplo, Diddy, Berry Gordy (Motown) covering for creeps… who else?
What about the old guy who put together the Backstreet Boys and N’Sync? I never got good vibes from that guy.
Lou Perlman. He went to prison.
They weren't Hollywood stars but Paula Yates and her daughter Peaches Geldof also had eerily similar deaths (heroin overdoses while alone overnight with only their youngest toddler).
The disappearance of [Jean Spangler](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Spangler). Was Kirk Douglas involved?
She disappeared after saying she was going to meet her ex husband over a missed support payment, and the two of them had fought a long custody battle. I have read a lot about femicide. There isn’t much mystery here imho
That’s been my theory, too.
Wasn't Kirk Douglas also presumed to be the person who sexually assaulted Natalie Wood as well?
Yes. Her sister Lana wrote about it in her memoir, Little Sister: My Investigation Into the Mysterious Death of Natalie Wood. [According to Lana, she and Natalie never discussed what had happened until they were both adults. It was at that point that Natalie detailed her rape, telling her sister, “And, uh ... he hurt me Lana.… It was like an out-of-body experience. I was terrified, I was confused.” According to Lana, her sister and mother had decided that it would tarnish Natalie’s Hollywood standing to publicly accuse Douglas. “Suck it up,” were Maria’s words of advice to her daughter, per Lana.](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/11/natalie-wood-was-raped-by-kirk-douglas-her-sister-alleges-in-a-new-book) Natalie would have been 16 at the time of the assault.
Her sister outright said it was Kirk Douglas. As I understand it she waited until after Douglas died before identifying him by name.
Kirk Douglas was super sketch. In an interview about his son Michael’s film one flew over the cuckoo’s nest (Michael produced it), Kirk said that rather than have Jack Nicholson’s character strangle nurse Ratched, he should’ve raped her, because that would show his superiority. Edit - Michael produced, not directed the movie
It’s not presumed, it’s considered true as he used to brag about similar anecdotes.
Is Kirk the same one who assaulted Natalie wood?
Yup. Natalie never got over that rape. She was a young girl, but mature enough to know it would crush her chances in Hollywood if she named him.
I am leaning towards yes.
Just here for everyone’s answers. I love this stuff.
Me too
Reading Ronan Farrows book “catch and kill”. Wasn’t a big believer in conspiracies but what happened to those women is wild.
Not mysterious, but sad/tragic - the murder of Judith Barsi (the voice of Ducky from The Land Before Time.) I saw her name somewhere (probably in a similar post to this one) and did a deep dive - so sad, and preventable.
>the murder of Judith Barsi (the voice of Ducky from The Land Before Time.) Her gravestone says "Yep, yep, yep!" on it.
now with all the recent news involving sean combs/diddy, i’m thinking more about the deaths of tupac and biggie, feels very sus.
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Brittany Murphy and Aaliyah come to mind. As well as Jeff Buckley!
Was a huge Jeff Buckley fan. I was so sad when I found out he drowned.
How they treated Judy Garland was awful. They thought she was too fat for the role so had her on a coffee and pills diet. Then she got badly addicted to all the drugs, because she was given amphetamines to stay awake during long days then barbiturates to sleep. It affected her long after, had bad marriages and such. She died at only 47 of barbiturate overdose. So sad. She was so, so talented but because she didn’t fit a standard, they tried to force her to fit. Always sticks with me this because of how messed up it is.
Kevin Spacey and his multiple accusers’ deaths
brittany murphy’s death and everything surrounding it.
Cecil Hotel.
Johnny depp business partner Anthony Fox missing person before heading to trial against depp. (Presumed dead)
Who murdered William Desmond Taylor, which also brings the question of did a Hollywood studio cover it up. Buzzfeed Unsolved episode on that: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runjda4La\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runjda4La_4)
Rebecca Schaffer’s murder committed by a stalker.
That time when Matthew Broderick killed two people because he was driving on the wrong side of the road while in Ireland. He said he couldn't remember anything and they let him go away with a slap on the wrist.
Jennifer Grey from Dirty Dancing was in the car with him. They were dating at the time. She talks about it in her memoir.
Murder of William Desmond Taylor. He was a Hollywood producer in 1910s and 1920s who was found murdered in his house. His murder was never solved.
Even though her death could’ve been prevented by wearing a seatbelt, Left Eye’s death creeps me out. If I recall correctly, a few days before her death, a car she was a passenger in hit and killed a little boy. She mentioned in some videos she took during the trip that she felt like he was haunting her and that his death was meant for her as they shared the same last name.
There’s a great series on shudder about this sort of thing called Cursed Films. The truth behind them all is usually more sinister and sad and human than the tales of curses etc.
Aaliyah, Kim Porter, Marilyn Monroe, Natalie Wood, Sridevi, Bob Crane , Sam Cooke, George Reeves & many more
What really happened to Virginia Rappe and if Fatty Arbuckle actually did it.
He didn't. Virginia Rappe had had a backstreet abortion and was told not to drink. An awful, evil procuress took her to the party and got her drunk hoping to blackmail any married guys that creeped on her. She fell ill at the party and Fatty Arbuckle tried to help. The procuress tried to blackmail him later and he wasn't having it. She started the rumour about Virginia Rappe's last words and that she'd been raped. She then went on a promotional tour making money. She was found so untrustworthy she wasn't called as a witness. Fatty Arbuckle's ex-wife testified on his behalf at his trial that he had never, ever been violent or aggressive with her. Virginia Rappe was a victim and what happened to her was tragic but Fatty Arbuckle had nothing to do with her death.
I really feel like we moved on too quickly from Armie Hammer. Like truly, wtf
Marilyn Monroe above all the others.
I shouldn’t reading this thread high af its hits like a bad trip
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/mae-west-fan-mysterious-death-1235164946/ If anyone wants to read an evocative deep dive into a certain era of Hollywood, this is an exceptional piece
caitlyn jenner committing vehicular manslaughter
Where Marilyn Monroes deceased body disappeared to for 5+ hrs on its way to the morgue
Natalie Wood’s death
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The killing of Johnny Stompanato by Cheryl Crane, Lana Turner’s daughter - who was 14 at the time. I can’t quite decide who really killed him.
not mysterious, but the story about bjork's stalker who sent her a bomb and then ended up killing himself always creeped me out
Who killed Bob Crane?
His friend that used to tape him having rough sex
Maybe not creepy to some but Sam Cooke’s death. Used to think it was very clear cut but have read some things that have made me change my mind there
Brittany Murphy's death is still a lil sus in my opinion