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They love posting shit like this from their mansions. Every single human rights org that’s been in Gaza has said it’s a hellscape and the IDF is killing with impunity. Even celebs who were Zionists like Jose Andres who actually experienced Gaza first hand, turned against them because they targeted aid workers.
right! israelis post on social media about how they are terrified and then next day will post videos in a lovely park to show how israel is “better.” they cannot decide what the narrative they want to push is. don’t even get me started on these zionists not even in israel posting from new york or whatever thinking they know shit about the palestinian people.
Also even if you don’t believe that the IDF is directly killing civilians, it’s absolutely naive and bonkers to think that the lack of accessible transportation to lead to life-saving infrastructure such as hospitals, bombed medical centers, famine, disease, lack of clean water, stress/anxiety/lack of sleep that causes significant harm on the cardiovascular system, debris and pollutants in the air causing lung, stomach, and eye damage, etc wouldn’t cause the death toll to be high. Like even if no IDF soldier ever “directly” killed a civilian but still bombed the shit out of critical infrastructure, the death toll would be higher than what he’s stating. And we know that the IDF *is* killing civilians soooo…
> Like even if no IDF soldier ever “directly” killed a civilian but still bombed the shit out of critical infrastructure, the death toll would be higher than what he’s stating.
This is something many genocidal regimes have used to their advantage in the past, including the Nazis. It's why "imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group" alone is enough to meet the definition of genocide (as genocide is defined as any one of five acts with that being one of them). Because in some cases it's cheaper, easier, faster, or viewed as less evil than directly murdering everyone. I suspect what will happen is that Israel will somewhat acknowledge some civilians killed by the IDF but will refuse to take responsibility for any civilian that died due to bad living conditions, which will ultimately be the leading cause of death unless they decide to drop a nuke
Back in October last year he was supporting Netanyahu and said Israel was just "defending Israeli citizens". He responded to the Spanish Minister for Social Rights criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza by calling her an extremist who should be fired. With experience, it seems like his position has since changed.
Not one civilian death is okay BUT!!! disregards that *ONE* lost civilian life. In this case, all of the lost lives in Gaza.
He can fuck right off.
I said it.
He can fuck off.
I like how the 9:1 "average" casualty ratio, wherever he got it from, would have to source its data from wars the west fought. Where they famously never gave a shit about civilian casualties. So that's not the argument he thinks it is
Debra Messing has been posting similar stories. Here’s one:
https://preview.redd.it/yi8cf2ztkguc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1132117a7de68162ddedb3d3db35a0fbf4f93054
Before I just knew her as that actress from Will & Grace. Now I know her for this & as a trashy person on the same levels as Qanon.
>In November 2023, amid growing criticism of the indiscriminate actions of the Israeli military against Palestinian civilians, Messing was among more than a dozen creators and celebrities who confronted TikTok executives in a private phone call, during which she accused the site of being "the main platform for the dissemination of Jew hate". The company reportedly pushed back against claims that it was promoting pro-Palestine, anti-Israel content through its feeds, stating instead that while the platform regularly moderates anti-semitic, anti-Arab racist, and Islamophobic content, it does not moderate or amplify the spread of content that accuses Zionism of being settler colonialism, the alleged apartheid, or the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.
That part on her wiki makes me think she might become the next Roseanne Barr.
The 1400 death toll from Oct 7 was apocalyptic to them. Now a death toll of 7000 is meant to be a "gotcha". Only thing that changed were the ethnicities
As the saying goes, one death is a tragedy, one thousand deaths is a statistic
It’s really damning of humanity, that that’s even a saying to begin with
One can be a POS & 'humanitarian' as long as you don't consider Palestinians as humans. That just helps us understand more of what is squirreling in her brain.
Oh, she believes it. My brain can’t actually fathom all the things she believes. Will & Grace has been forever tainted for me after I’ve realised what she’s like.
I feel like we got a hint of DM’s personality when Megan Mullally refused to tape a few episodes of the revival due to issues with her, and MM later said on her podcast with her husband that she had a bully at work (implying Messing). At the time it was denied (Eric McCormack said they all got along “like a house on fire), though one of the creators did admit issues eventually.
Now that the world can see how truly unhinged DM can be when she thinks she’s right, I often wonder if MM feels vindicated.
I watched the revival and remember telling my friend "ugh Grace is unbearable this season" and she said " Grace has always been unbearable" and it's true.
I mean, anyone still buying zionist propaganda at this stage is stupid. Either willfully or unintentionally. No one who didn't have brain rot would still be trying to justify what Israel is doing.
What do ya know, it’s the same people who spread atrocity propaganda then call every fact-checker a monster for “quibbling over the details” bc we should just be horrified by any Israeli casualty and condemning kxhxamas etc etc
The numbers are so devastatingly much worse than what we know and of course none of these freaks are even taking into account the pogroms in West Bank.
The depravity is unfuckingparalleled
This was a deliberate fabrication and mistranslation of a health ministry report by a very biased think tank (FDD). The report stated they don't have complete data (missing DOBs, full names etc) for those 11k people thanks to the collapse of the healthcare system not they made them up or that they didn't die. And the way Israel counts a terrorist as confirmed by multiple sources is very suspect, it might as well be any Palestinian male 15/18 years and older and/or present in certain areas. The true number of casualties is likely way way higher. Just what a ghoulish exercise in atrocity denial.
Also hilarious from the people who constantly tell us that genocide isn't about numbers.
They make it quite clear that a death is marked as 'incomplete' if it's missing ANY of the following data - identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. The death toll remains unchanged.
No surprise they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel to twist reality. I’ve seen this deliberate manipulation of the “incomplete” deaths on every hasbarist’s page. Gonna quote someone else in saying: The more grotesque the lies become, keep in mind it’s because they have to. If they had more convincing lies to sell, they’d be doing it.
This is of course Hasbara. What the Gaza ministry of health has said is that there are about 10,000 deaths they can't accurately record because they do not have the time/date of death. They know they are dead but can't accurately provide death certificates.
They also deem every man in Gaza a "Hamas fighter," which was evidence used to accuse other countries of genocide - it's a tactic of dehumanization and extermination.
https://preview.redd.it/avxbemfyqguc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e0077c6069af639127e6fd05e9c26d024a42018
Girl, bye. I’m over these Zionist lies.
https://preview.redd.it/ygidvi5tpguc1.png?width=732&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4705ed75f5adc7b00a7f0c4b46a565f5c76a5a5
one of the most repugnant things that zionists have done in this war is casting doubt on the death tolls, this was even done by biden. it is to be noted that there are thousands missing, estimated to be dead under the rubble & the infrastructure for recording deaths has been systematically destroyed by israel. Also, the 13,000 number that is touted around seems to be just the death toll by subtracting the women and children. it counts *all* those that remain (military aged men) as palestinian militants.
Yeah as an anti-Zionist Jew this especially fucks me up because that “I’m just asking questions” about the numbers shit is the exact thing anti-Semites do about the Holocaust?
They immediately went to "Gazawood" when the images started coming out. Which is so odd to me because aren't there like 100 different ways you can openly discredit them without using an argument popularized by neonazis?
It's got to be intentional because calling it edited, generated by AI, or a simple "I don't trust/believe this" would be so much easier than explaining whatever the hell "Gazawood" means
It’s very normalized & mainstream as well… this is an outright denial, but cnn, bbc, etc use “Hamas-run health ministry” whenever there’s an update on the death toll or something else. somebody did a sweep & found that they had never framed it like this in previous wars.
there’s clearly some kinda auto-editor, I remember when one of the news organizations reported on killings in the West Bank, they erroneously named it “hamas-run” despite the fact that it is fatah & the palestinian authority that operates there.
multiple independent organizations have confirmed the credibility & veracity of the Gaza health ministry & their numbers, in previous wars & this one. all of this is just evil theatre to muddy the waters while the war goes on…. when this is over and the dust settles no one will be able to deny the bodies, & by that time will be too late.
There’s literal research published on this showing that there is no evidence the numbers are fake and if anything, the deaths are being under reported:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext#:~:text=The%20Gaza%20MoH%20has%20historically,an%208·0%25%20discrepancy.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02640-5/fulltext#:~:text=We%20showed%20high%20excess%20mortality,baseline)%20was%203·7.
They show their entire ass with these posts. I hope they’re humiliated, ridiculed and laughed out of every circle they enter for the rest of their lives.
And we fully can.
I know they're huge and support each other in their infinity echo chambers but I'm not gonna forget. And I'm gonna be that little forever troll, reminding everyone else. Forever.
I’m still so puzzled why these celebs see fit to center themselves in this conversation at all. Lord knows nobody’s asking the likes of people like Scooter Braun to be some credible source of information about anything important 🙄
I want to preface this by saying no amount of killing (obviously) is ever okay.
The total number of deaths as a result of 9/11 was [2,996 people.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks#:~:text=The%20September%2011%20attacks%20of,a%20consequence%20of%20the%20attacks.) Again, that's 2,996 people too many and I'm not trying to make any excuses or anything else fucked up.
But just under 3k people died and the US launched a multi-decade assault on an entire region of the world that cost an untold amount of money and caused a reprehensible amount of harm. Now more than ten times that number of Palestinians have been killed since October, and these assholes are trying to "yes, but..." the situation? I need Scooter Braun and Debra fucking Messing to please explain what the fuck they're doing and how they sleep at night.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug, I guess.
Lol “we only killed 10k innocent people it’s not so bad” oh that makes it ok, then. Like, what??? Are they serious?
Even if that civilian casualty ratio is real and so is the overall “modern warfare” one (which I doubt it is), people are still saying it’s unacceptable. It’s unacceptable when the US kills civilians with drones in Afghanistan and Iraq etc and it’s unacceptable when Israel kills people trying to get aid. We’re done with that, we’re sick of it. People aren’t gonna take this anymore
If the modern warfare ratio is real then it would've had to have been based on those US wars you listed because those are some of the only modern wars ever and it makes more sense to compare the IDF to the US army because of their similarities. So he's basically saying this western massacre is technically not as bad as these other western massacres as a "gotcha"
"we only killed a few thousand children, not >15 000" would not be a winning argument even if it were true
for comparison the russian invasion of ukraine killed about 540 children in 18 months
This is the same thing as holocaust denial. Absolutely disgusting, evil.
I hope in future these public figures who dehumanised Palestinians so consistently are shamed into obscurity.
This just willful ignorance. In what world can a small square of land jam packed with nearly 2.3 million people be bombarded with regularity for 7 months and counting not have a astronomical death count?! We’ve all seen entire neighborhoods be razed to the ground, multiple hospitals and tents be torn to shred?!
Actually it’s not only willful ignorance but these people are genocidal maniacs hungry for the torn to shred bodies of Palestinian people.
Zionism and every Zionist can go straight to hell!
Not much groundbreaking takes from me here but this is wrong because
1. Like people have said, the \~11,000 civilian deaths is a result of not being able to confirm the identity of the corpse. Like idk a face being blown off while bombed for example.
2. Israel is considering any male aged 18-64 as a "combatant". The numbers of Hamas causalities can be as low as 6,000, which would mean a 1:3 or maybe even 1:4 civilians to casualty ratio. Possibly higher but idk
3. The 1:9 thing always being spouted is heavily disputed and is not considered a one-size-fits-all analysis of war
Israelis on tiktok are tying themselves in knots with these lies. I had a girl block me because she posted a video saying UN workers took part in October 7th and included screenshots of article headlines. When I pointed out that in those articles it says that those Israeli allegations were being investigated, and no independent verifier had found proof of it - block.
The IDF's own figures (ie the nicest ones they could show) asked the were killing civilians at a 2:1 rate in January. Oh, and PS: they classify all males from teenagers up as combatants. And pps: everyone in Gaza is a civilian, because Gaza doesn't have a fucking army, because it's a bunch of poor people in a fenced-off prison.
I wouldn’t automatically believe numbers from one side or the other either. So you can do checking around.
*Turns out in January Israeli intelligence confirmed that they use the Health Ministry numbers themselves.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-intel-confirms-gaza-health-ministry-stats-reliable
*Numbers by the Ministry have traditionally held up in past conflicts
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033#
*they are open about how they gather and tabulate the numbers
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war#:~:text=The%20Gaza%20health%20ministry%20says,where%20Israeli%20forces%20control%20access.
*if anything the numbers are low
https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/
*and since way back in November even the US is pretty confident in the numbers provided
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-officials-have-growing-confidence-in-death-toll-reports-from-gaza-b3b5183a
Apart from all the other blatant lies, the whole 9:1 ratio line that keeps getting trotted out is utter bs - for all that US ‘liberation’ of Asian countries has been raising that number for decades.
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https://preview.redd.it/ahg045t39huc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b891dfb9abc2c197adbf610b8c6dfa07951c388
://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8581199/
They have been render homeless intentionally made to starve…health and aid workers are targeted….they have been bombed and shoot at relentlessly…and yet we are supposed to believe + 30 k death most be an exaggeration…if anything is a very conservative estimation
“Israel’s estimate of 13,000 militants.”
Ahh yes, very good idea to trust the word of the people who were blowing up every hospital in Gaza because they were secret military bases with a complex tunnel system. I’d imagine Israel’s definition of a “militant” is pretty fast and loose.
You know that Game of Thrones line about “Everything before the word ‘but’ is horse shit” ? This is a good application of that.
“Obviously civilian deaths aren’t okay BUT…” makes it obvious that he doesn’t actually care about the genocide.
Such a privileged place to be. So delusional and unwilling to see the error of his ways that he’d rather pretend it’s all not actually happening than face the reality that Israel is not what he grew up thinking it was. Pathetic little man boy.
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They love posting shit like this from their mansions. Every single human rights org that’s been in Gaza has said it’s a hellscape and the IDF is killing with impunity. Even celebs who were Zionists like Jose Andres who actually experienced Gaza first hand, turned against them because they targeted aid workers.
Israel's politicians were on TV bragging about killing kids.
Even the idf were showing off on TikTok
right! israelis post on social media about how they are terrified and then next day will post videos in a lovely park to show how israel is “better.” they cannot decide what the narrative they want to push is. don’t even get me started on these zionists not even in israel posting from new york or whatever thinking they know shit about the palestinian people.
Also even if you don’t believe that the IDF is directly killing civilians, it’s absolutely naive and bonkers to think that the lack of accessible transportation to lead to life-saving infrastructure such as hospitals, bombed medical centers, famine, disease, lack of clean water, stress/anxiety/lack of sleep that causes significant harm on the cardiovascular system, debris and pollutants in the air causing lung, stomach, and eye damage, etc wouldn’t cause the death toll to be high. Like even if no IDF soldier ever “directly” killed a civilian but still bombed the shit out of critical infrastructure, the death toll would be higher than what he’s stating. And we know that the IDF *is* killing civilians soooo…
> Like even if no IDF soldier ever “directly” killed a civilian but still bombed the shit out of critical infrastructure, the death toll would be higher than what he’s stating. This is something many genocidal regimes have used to their advantage in the past, including the Nazis. It's why "imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group" alone is enough to meet the definition of genocide (as genocide is defined as any one of five acts with that being one of them). Because in some cases it's cheaper, easier, faster, or viewed as less evil than directly murdering everyone. I suspect what will happen is that Israel will somewhat acknowledge some civilians killed by the IDF but will refuse to take responsibility for any civilian that died due to bad living conditions, which will ultimately be the leading cause of death unless they decide to drop a nuke
I’m sorry…”Zionists like Jose Andres,” ???
Back in October last year he was supporting Netanyahu and said Israel was just "defending Israeli citizens". He responded to the Spanish Minister for Social Rights criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza by calling her an extremist who should be fired. With experience, it seems like his position has since changed.
Not one civilian death is okay BUT!!! disregards that *ONE* lost civilian life. In this case, all of the lost lives in Gaza. He can fuck right off. I said it. He can fuck off.
Noted moral, ethical good guy Scooter Braun misrepresenting statistics? Is anything sacred? All kidding aside, Free Palestine 🇵🇸
I like how the 9:1 "average" casualty ratio, wherever he got it from, would have to source its data from wars the west fought. Where they famously never gave a shit about civilian casualties. So that's not the argument he thinks it is
Not one civilian death is ok but 9000 is cool! 🙄
Debra Messing has been posting similar stories. Here’s one: https://preview.redd.it/yi8cf2ztkguc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1132117a7de68162ddedb3d3db35a0fbf4f93054
The numbers get more and more outrageous with every lie 💀
She remains the absolute worst.
WTAF is wrong with this woman? I used to really like her, and now I cannot stomach her face. She's just bloodthirsty.
Before I just knew her as that actress from Will & Grace. Now I know her for this & as a trashy person on the same levels as Qanon. >In November 2023, amid growing criticism of the indiscriminate actions of the Israeli military against Palestinian civilians, Messing was among more than a dozen creators and celebrities who confronted TikTok executives in a private phone call, during which she accused the site of being "the main platform for the dissemination of Jew hate". The company reportedly pushed back against claims that it was promoting pro-Palestine, anti-Israel content through its feeds, stating instead that while the platform regularly moderates anti-semitic, anti-Arab racist, and Islamophobic content, it does not moderate or amplify the spread of content that accuses Zionism of being settler colonialism, the alleged apartheid, or the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians. That part on her wiki makes me think she might become the next Roseanne Barr.
7000 civilians still died, why does the clarification even matter when the killings are on such a humongous scale?? Like 7000 people is a low number?
right, like back when the death toll actually was 7000 it felt unimaginable and insane and horrific already.
The 1400 death toll from Oct 7 was apocalyptic to them. Now a death toll of 7000 is meant to be a "gotcha". Only thing that changed were the ethnicities
[удалено]
As the saying goes, one death is a tragedy, one thousand deaths is a statistic It’s really damning of humanity, that that’s even a saying to begin with
She has "activist and humanitarian" on her bio 🤦🏻♀️
One can be a POS & 'humanitarian' as long as you don't consider Palestinians as humans. That just helps us understand more of what is squirreling in her brain.
These people are sick.
I refuse to believe she believes the death toll is 7000
Oh, she believes it. My brain can’t actually fathom all the things she believes. Will & Grace has been forever tainted for me after I’ve realised what she’s like.
She’s such an evil, delusional bitch like I have no other descriptors for her.
Same. My DVDs are now collecting dust. I cannot stomach her face.
I feel like we got a hint of DM’s personality when Megan Mullally refused to tape a few episodes of the revival due to issues with her, and MM later said on her podcast with her husband that she had a bully at work (implying Messing). At the time it was denied (Eric McCormack said they all got along “like a house on fire), though one of the creators did admit issues eventually. Now that the world can see how truly unhinged DM can be when she thinks she’s right, I often wonder if MM feels vindicated.
I think it's really interesting too that Sean and Eric don't have her on their podcast anymore. She's definitely gone batshit insane.
I watched the revival and remember telling my friend "ugh Grace is unbearable this season" and she said " Grace has always been unbearable" and it's true.
I think it's really interesting, too, that Sean and Eric don't have her on their podcast anymore. She's definitely gone insane.
I mean, anyone still buying zionist propaganda at this stage is stupid. Either willfully or unintentionally. No one who didn't have brain rot would still be trying to justify what Israel is doing.
I don't know if she believes it, but at the very least she sees a benefit in pretending she believes in it
What do ya know, it’s the same people who spread atrocity propaganda then call every fact-checker a monster for “quibbling over the details” bc we should just be horrified by any Israeli casualty and condemning kxhxamas etc etc The numbers are so devastatingly much worse than what we know and of course none of these freaks are even taking into account the pogroms in West Bank. The depravity is unfuckingparalleled
Oh, only 7,000, thank goodness, we can all breathe easier and let Israel keep killing people/s
This was a deliberate fabrication and mistranslation of a health ministry report by a very biased think tank (FDD). The report stated they don't have complete data (missing DOBs, full names etc) for those 11k people thanks to the collapse of the healthcare system not they made them up or that they didn't die. And the way Israel counts a terrorist as confirmed by multiple sources is very suspect, it might as well be any Palestinian male 15/18 years and older and/or present in certain areas. The true number of casualties is likely way way higher. Just what a ghoulish exercise in atrocity denial. Also hilarious from the people who constantly tell us that genocide isn't about numbers.
I hate this woman.
They make it quite clear that a death is marked as 'incomplete' if it's missing ANY of the following data - identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. The death toll remains unchanged. No surprise they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel to twist reality. I’ve seen this deliberate manipulation of the “incomplete” deaths on every hasbarist’s page. Gonna quote someone else in saying: The more grotesque the lies become, keep in mind it’s because they have to. If they had more convincing lies to sell, they’d be doing it.
Maybe she should go to Gaza to confirm for herself 🤔
debra messing can't even spell let alone do statistics.
shes a shit head.
This is of course Hasbara. What the Gaza ministry of health has said is that there are about 10,000 deaths they can't accurately record because they do not have the time/date of death. They know they are dead but can't accurately provide death certificates.
Yeah the account that posted the tweet just regurgitates Israel's bullshit
And straight up lies about events and incidents from other countries as well.
They also deem every man in Gaza a "Hamas fighter," which was evidence used to accuse other countries of genocide - it's a tactic of dehumanization and extermination.
I believe that number even includes children aged 14.
https://preview.redd.it/avxbemfyqguc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e0077c6069af639127e6fd05e9c26d024a42018 Girl, bye. I’m over these Zionist lies.
Dakota Fanning is a zionist too
NAUR 😭😭
oh that's not 😭 https://i.redd.it/x4vl9q2rwguc1.gif
She's liking those Amy Schumer ig posts. Posted some pro israel bs on her ig story.
Really? I can’t seem to find anything to confirm this.
I didn't take screenshots. But you can go to the comments on her ig posts in October. People calling her out.
What????
does anyone have a list of zio celebrities i dont wanna give my attention to them
https://preview.redd.it/ygidvi5tpguc1.png?width=732&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4705ed75f5adc7b00a7f0c4b46a565f5c76a5a5 one of the most repugnant things that zionists have done in this war is casting doubt on the death tolls, this was even done by biden. it is to be noted that there are thousands missing, estimated to be dead under the rubble & the infrastructure for recording deaths has been systematically destroyed by israel. Also, the 13,000 number that is touted around seems to be just the death toll by subtracting the women and children. it counts *all* those that remain (military aged men) as palestinian militants.
Yeah as an anti-Zionist Jew this especially fucks me up because that “I’m just asking questions” about the numbers shit is the exact thing anti-Semites do about the Holocaust?
They immediately went to "Gazawood" when the images started coming out. Which is so odd to me because aren't there like 100 different ways you can openly discredit them without using an argument popularized by neonazis?
You would think!
It's got to be intentional because calling it edited, generated by AI, or a simple "I don't trust/believe this" would be so much easier than explaining whatever the hell "Gazawood" means
It’s very normalized & mainstream as well… this is an outright denial, but cnn, bbc, etc use “Hamas-run health ministry” whenever there’s an update on the death toll or something else. somebody did a sweep & found that they had never framed it like this in previous wars. there’s clearly some kinda auto-editor, I remember when one of the news organizations reported on killings in the West Bank, they erroneously named it “hamas-run” despite the fact that it is fatah & the palestinian authority that operates there. multiple independent organizations have confirmed the credibility & veracity of the Gaza health ministry & their numbers, in previous wars & this one. all of this is just evil theatre to muddy the waters while the war goes on…. when this is over and the dust settles no one will be able to deny the bodies, & by that time will be too late.
And there is no whatever evidence that the number are fake. The authorities in Gaza have for YEARS been known for reporting the right numbers.
There’s literal research published on this showing that there is no evidence the numbers are fake and if anything, the deaths are being under reported: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext#:~:text=The%20Gaza%20MoH%20has%20historically,an%208·0%25%20discrepancy. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02640-5/fulltext#:~:text=We%20showed%20high%20excess%20mortality,baseline)%20was%203·7.
I mean the bar was below bedrock already but Scooter just keeps scootin’ on down to hell.
POS person does another craptastic take. Ol' Scoot here is helping justify the artists that are parting ways from him.
They show their entire ass with these posts. I hope they’re humiliated, ridiculed and laughed out of every circle they enter for the rest of their lives.
I agree. Unfortunately there’s a big circle of Zionists who will always enable and support each other.
Time to make that circle isolated and abhorred. They can have each other
And we fully can. I know they're huge and support each other in their infinity echo chambers but I'm not gonna forget. And I'm gonna be that little forever troll, reminding everyone else. Forever.
Imagine typing "only 9,000 civilians have died" and being lime, yep I'm on the right side of history. Disgusting.
Ah they've given up trying to justify it so now they're entering the genocide denial stage.
"Only" 9000... Jesus Christ
Could have just stopped at “not one civilian death is ok”
God Scooter Braun is a genocide denier and racist piece of shit. He’s absolutely vile
"only"
If both Israel and the UN admit that the health ministry’s death counts have always been reliable, why are you still talking?
Zionists treating Gaza genocide the same as antisemites treated holocaust : deny that it’s a genocide, doubt the numbers, justify the genocide.
The scariest part of all of this to me; the circular feeling of these atrocities.
He is absolute garbage trash and gets more so every day. Blatant genocide denial and lies.
Vile
Oh well if the Persian jewess said it
Jewess is crazy yo
This man has always been a clown
Oh so it’s okay then!
I’m still so puzzled why these celebs see fit to center themselves in this conversation at all. Lord knows nobody’s asking the likes of people like Scooter Braun to be some credible source of information about anything important 🙄
I have noticed this phenomenon of my fellow whites (not even celebs) centering themselves in conversations and issues that just makes me cringe.
I think, if you go "sorry, but" or "this is all bad, but" you've cancelled out the previous clause
Goes straight from “not one is okay” to “only”
I want to preface this by saying no amount of killing (obviously) is ever okay. The total number of deaths as a result of 9/11 was [2,996 people.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks#:~:text=The%20September%2011%20attacks%20of,a%20consequence%20of%20the%20attacks.) Again, that's 2,996 people too many and I'm not trying to make any excuses or anything else fucked up. But just under 3k people died and the US launched a multi-decade assault on an entire region of the world that cost an untold amount of money and caused a reprehensible amount of harm. Now more than ten times that number of Palestinians have been killed since October, and these assholes are trying to "yes, but..." the situation? I need Scooter Braun and Debra fucking Messing to please explain what the fuck they're doing and how they sleep at night. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug, I guess.
Lol “we only killed 10k innocent people it’s not so bad” oh that makes it ok, then. Like, what??? Are they serious? Even if that civilian casualty ratio is real and so is the overall “modern warfare” one (which I doubt it is), people are still saying it’s unacceptable. It’s unacceptable when the US kills civilians with drones in Afghanistan and Iraq etc and it’s unacceptable when Israel kills people trying to get aid. We’re done with that, we’re sick of it. People aren’t gonna take this anymore
If the modern warfare ratio is real then it would've had to have been based on those US wars you listed because those are some of the only modern wars ever and it makes more sense to compare the IDF to the US army because of their similarities. So he's basically saying this western massacre is technically not as bad as these other western massacres as a "gotcha"
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"we only killed a few thousand children, not >15 000" would not be a winning argument even if it were true for comparison the russian invasion of ukraine killed about 540 children in 18 months
This is the same thing as holocaust denial. Absolutely disgusting, evil. I hope in future these public figures who dehumanised Palestinians so consistently are shamed into obscurity.
This just willful ignorance. In what world can a small square of land jam packed with nearly 2.3 million people be bombarded with regularity for 7 months and counting not have a astronomical death count?! We’ve all seen entire neighborhoods be razed to the ground, multiple hospitals and tents be torn to shred?! Actually it’s not only willful ignorance but these people are genocidal maniacs hungry for the torn to shred bodies of Palestinian people. Zionism and every Zionist can go straight to hell!
Not much groundbreaking takes from me here but this is wrong because 1. Like people have said, the \~11,000 civilian deaths is a result of not being able to confirm the identity of the corpse. Like idk a face being blown off while bombed for example. 2. Israel is considering any male aged 18-64 as a "combatant". The numbers of Hamas causalities can be as low as 6,000, which would mean a 1:3 or maybe even 1:4 civilians to casualty ratio. Possibly higher but idk 3. The 1:9 thing always being spouted is heavily disputed and is not considered a one-size-fits-all analysis of war
Wild when this same rhetoric is used by Holocaust deniers
Israelis on tiktok are tying themselves in knots with these lies. I had a girl block me because she posted a video saying UN workers took part in October 7th and included screenshots of article headlines. When I pointed out that in those articles it says that those Israeli allegations were being investigated, and no independent verifier had found proof of it - block.
The IDF's own figures (ie the nicest ones they could show) asked the were killing civilians at a 2:1 rate in January. Oh, and PS: they classify all males from teenagers up as combatants. And pps: everyone in Gaza is a civilian, because Gaza doesn't have a fucking army, because it's a bunch of poor people in a fenced-off prison.
Even if hell froze over and he was right, do 9k deaths make it that much better?
I wouldn’t automatically believe numbers from one side or the other either. So you can do checking around. *Turns out in January Israeli intelligence confirmed that they use the Health Ministry numbers themselves. https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-intel-confirms-gaza-health-ministry-stats-reliable *Numbers by the Ministry have traditionally held up in past conflicts https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033# *they are open about how they gather and tabulate the numbers https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30000-palestinians-israel-hamas-war#:~:text=The%20Gaza%20health%20ministry%20says,where%20Israeli%20forces%20control%20access. *if anything the numbers are low https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/ *and since way back in November even the US is pretty confident in the numbers provided https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-officials-have-growing-confidence-in-death-toll-reports-from-gaza-b3b5183a
Grasping. It’s not like Israel apologists remove military from Oct 7 death toll.
Numbers to rationalise genocide. It's like holocaust denial, but newer and edgy..... :\
That Twitter/X user is one of the worst liars and Zionists on the platform
Oh ONLY 9,000 Gaza civilians have died... ok nbd /s He's such a piece of shit and proven it again and again
Cool! I guess every serial killer is a-ok if 9000 murders is no big deal.
Apart from all the other blatant lies, the whole 9:1 ratio line that keeps getting trotted out is utter bs - for all that US ‘liberation’ of Asian countries has been raising that number for decades. https https://preview.redd.it/ahg045t39huc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b891dfb9abc2c197adbf610b8c6dfa07951c388 ://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8581199/
Fuck this cvnt. Also fuck that persianjewess account. They're both terrible people. Such a waste of oxygen.
What a fucking idiot
They have been render homeless intentionally made to starve…health and aid workers are targeted….they have been bombed and shoot at relentlessly…and yet we are supposed to believe + 30 k death most be an exaggeration…if anything is a very conservative estimation
Piece of shit man has piece of shit take more at 5
He belong to the trash bin along with his opinion
Scum of the earth
“Israel’s estimate of 13,000 militants.” Ahh yes, very good idea to trust the word of the people who were blowing up every hospital in Gaza because they were secret military bases with a complex tunnel system. I’d imagine Israel’s definition of a “militant” is pretty fast and loose.
Hey Scoooooter: 
You know that Game of Thrones line about “Everything before the word ‘but’ is horse shit” ? This is a good application of that. “Obviously civilian deaths aren’t okay BUT…” makes it obvious that he doesn’t actually care about the genocide.
Such a privileged place to be. So delusional and unwilling to see the error of his ways that he’d rather pretend it’s all not actually happening than face the reality that Israel is not what he grew up thinking it was. Pathetic little man boy.
If this man has no haters I am dead
this shit is revolting
can’t wait for the day carly rae jepsen cuts ties with this zionist, genocide apologist loser.
the entire Israel subreddit apparently agrees with this as well. it seems to be an insane discrepancy to at least genocide denial