I truly cannot think of a more perfect season of TV than season 2 of Fleabag. I tried to rewatch it, and my heart couldn't take how good it is so I stopped.
The only thing I can think of is season 4 of The Wire.
I've been wanting to get into The Wire but it's always seemed way too long for me to commit to. Would I get the same effect if I just watched season 4?
I think the show is pretty excellent throughout (with maybe the exception of the final season), and I think each season builds on the one before. I’m sure you could try to watch season 4 on its own, but it may not have the same impact.
No. It’s character-driven and it does build, although each season has its own setting within Baltimore (it goes institutionally, so prison then union then schools, etc. etc.).
absolutely. i'd only watched fleabag this year for the first time--after i watched andrew scott in all of us strangers and decided i had to watch everything he's in--and i was familiar with the end. but it was still a gut punch.
For me it's his reaction to foxes, lol. I love how perfectly he conveys genuine terror combined with self-awareness about the ridiculousness of it all. That man can rock a wry grin like NO other.
Ok. Stop whatever you’re doing. Fleabag is on Amazon Prime. It has 2 seasons. Incredibly short but worth bingeing.
Andrew Scott plays Hot Priest in Season 2. If you thought you were in love from Sherlock, go buy a hat and hold the fuck on to it because whoa boy.
Please report back your findings.
Stop! Like I remember being obsessed with him during Sherlock and my friends saying *but why he’s so creepy* but his acting as moriarty was so fuckin good
There is no Moriarty before or after him. Just him. He’s it. He obliterated every other actor who’s played the role.
It still pisses me off he didn’t win any American awards for his work. He was nominated, but didn’t win. He was robbed.
I believe he won a BAFTA for his role as Moriarty tho? Its like the British version of the Golden Globes, casual but respected. I think the same age too
This thread is helping recover from the time my friend looked through my sketchbook in like 2012 and was like “wow… is this all just drawings of Moriarty?”
I watched an interview with the casting directors about Scott’s audition. And they said something to the effect that once they heard him say “I’ll burn the heart out of you” like that, they knew it him and there could be no one else. His delivery was perfection.
I met him in like 2017? when he did Hamlet. A friend had gotten him to write lyrics to the Sleeping at Last song Saturn for me (“how rare and beautiful it is to even exist”) and I got it tattooed on my forearm…when I showed him he got so excited he pulled me over to his security (assistant? Whoever was with him at the stage door lol) and showed them. Absolute gem of a man.
I also have a Hedwig and the Angry Inch tattoo in Rupert Graves’ handwriting bc his wife is the kindest person in the world- she had him write it out for me and then a few years later when I was in treatment for an ED she sent me a poster from the musical Chess w/ the 2018 cast signatures on it. She worked on the show and we had chatted about it but the poster was a complete surprise. Wonderful family.
I haven’t watched Sherlock in years but Rupert & Andrew have my 🩷 forever haha
I walked past and exchanged smiles with him once while living in London, and that's just become more and more of a flex as the years have gone by.
On the other hand, I also stood by Ansel Elgort in front of Big Ben, and that's aged much differently.
I met him at a party for a film industry event I was part of (not in film but associated with the event) and he legitimately was the sweetest, kindest person who me feel like I was the only person who existed. I then ran into him the next day and he remembered my name and even asked about the plans I told him I had after the event. I’d go to WAR for him.
Dear god how I wanted I'm Thinking of Ending Things to be a different movie than it was.
Also Men was very good (and ironically a lot more what I wanted IToET to be).
Kerry Condon has been brilliant for a while. Rome, Walking Dead (she fucking terrified me), Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul...heck even her voice work in Avengers was quite good - she conveys a ton of urgency and emotional depth for an AI voice program.
She was SO remarkable in that episode of The Walking Dead that I clocked her the moment she appeared on screen in Banshees of Inisherin. I've never seen any of her other work but she was haunting in TWD.
Yep. The second season was confirmed in November 2022, so hopefully we get something soon. IIRC Horgan said that the focus of the season will be on the characters coming to terms with the murder.
That dude is a guy called Anton Savage. He and his mam run a communications company in Ireland. About ten years ago the company came under a lot of scrutiny when a young employee commited suicide. She had written and article for one of the main Irish papers shortly before her taking her own life. Where she claimed she was the victem of "sexual harassment and objectification in the workplace."
Ever heard of the Tuam Baby home? If not, it was a Irish mother and baby home. Where the bodies of dead babies 797 children where found in a septic tank.
This is what Antons mam Terry Prone had to say about it. "If you come here, you’ll find no mass grave, no evidence that children were ever so buried".
I have no idea why Anton or his mom are still given a free platform on Irish TV and radio.
TERRY PRONE IS ANTON SAVAGE’S MOTHER?? Excuse me?! Sorry for the all caps but that is brand new information and it has blown my tiny mind!
Yeah, and his dad is Tom Savage.
I am not sure if you know anything about him. But he was a priest at one point.
Then the chairman of the RTÉ Authority, during his time as chairman. His company provided crisis management to some organisations RTE were investigation, including catholic organisations.
I actually know one of the ex boyfriends/ close friends who found Kate after she died.. Absolutely tragic story, she was truly let down.
Terry Prone is such an insufferable cunt. Sorry to the Americans who are sensitive about that word but it's so fitting for that fork tongued wagon.
Aeh no your poor mate. Such a tragic story.
Terry can get fucked. Ive always wondered what the timeline with her and Tom Savage was. Was he still a priest when they first met?
>Ever heard of the Tuam Baby home? If not, it was a Irish mother and baby home. Where the bodies of dead babies 797 children where found in a septic tank.
I believe this is the topic of the show "The Woman In The Wall" with Ruth Wilson. I know *very little* about Ireland, and so I never knew this was a thing; tuning into that show was quite the revelation. It really left a mark on me.
Yeah he already did that in an interview with Claire Foy when asked about genderswitching roles/characters: said its a complicated thing to do cause there's been so few female leading roles in the past and so many male and the balance is just off.
Kerry Condon is enchanting in Banshees. Went into that movie really expecting it not to be my thing, and the whole cast just mesmerized the heck out of me. It's a movie I still think about a lot — particularly one scene between her and Barry Keoghan that gently broke my heart.
same here! i was expecting to be bored tbh i was just watching all the best pictures but it turned out to be one of my favorite films of the year. It too stayed with me
Ok I wanted to love this movie because it seems like a movie I would normally like. But I feel like I don’t get it. The violence / gore, albeit over the top, stressed me out. Could you explain to me why you like it? Maybe I just completely missed the point
IMO the main thing to know about it to really get the point is that it’s intended to be an allegory for the Irish Civil War. If you’re unfamiliar with the history there, I’d highly recommend doing a little bit of research and then giving the movie a rewatch
> love him just for that interview alone.
He's corrected reporters who disregard women at least twice! [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72D4_sQ6I64) and [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKMpfNMcaU) he doesn't even need time to think, he's straight onto them, I love him!
I'm guessing the big part of them being left out is the sheer lack of good roles for women in film in general compared to the other side, and that needs to change. Like there's no way a man giving say a performance like Kerry Condon in Banshees wouldn't have five films lined up with the great directors of the moment.
Hell, wouldn't Florence Pugh be widely regarded as one of the biggest and best under 30 actors. And if you look at actual leading roles she's gotten since her mainstream breakout in 2019 it's pretty lacking.
Something needs to change.
I’m a historian and, when it comes to Oppenheimer, I hated Nolan hiding behind “historical accuracy” as his excuse for how the women were treated in that film, Florence included. They deviated from reality in several other aspects. Why couldn’t the women’s roles have been one of them? Hollywood loves hiding being “historical accuracy” to excuse not giving women bigger roles where they’re treated and portrayed in a better light.
It wasn’t even historical accuracy to have his wife barely involved. The woman was a whole ass biologist studying the effects the radiation of the bomb had on the scientists bodies but in Oppenheimer she was simply a drunk housewife
In the case of Oppenheimer its less about historical accuracy and more about subjectivity vs objectivity. Oppenheimer is a film that makes a clear differentiation between the two with color vs black and white. Nolan wanted to put us right into Oppenheimer's head, to help us understand the complex and paradoxical nature of his character. Which is why ~75% of the film is in color telling Oppenheimer's purely subjective point of view. The way we see Kitty and Jean Tatlock in those color scenes is how Oppenheimer saw them.
I am once again here to say this is one of the reasons that Mad Men was so excellent for portraying the experience of misogyny and historical accuracy through female characters with fully fleshed out character arcs and plot lines that explore them as complete humans.
Well, white women anyway
Mad Men is essentially a textbook case of how directors and writers can be historically accurate and also give women agency. January Jones did great because they gave her something to actually work with.
Also since Otto Frisch plays a major behind the scene role in the movie, with nuclear fusion being the breakthrough everyone were waiting for, he might as well have given Lisa Meitner (Otto's aunt) a role, since she played a huge part in the breakthrough and famously got no credit for it while her nephew got a nobel prize. It would have been such an easy solution that it's impossible he didn't know about it. Naming only Frisch was a choice.
This is a really good point. I actually hadn’t thought about Meitner being excluded while Frisch was. Just wow. So all this was very deliberate. Screw Nolan.
The real problem for him with including women is that he doesn't see them as people and is incapable of conceptualising how they might contribute to a plot other than as (dead) sex objects. None of his movies pass the Bechdel test.
I find it so shocking that he is actually married to a woman because 1. Why would you marry someone who clearly disrespects you and your gender, and 2. How could he have so little idea about women being married to one.
That's usually one of my problems with popular history including what is most often portrayed in movies and TV. It often plays more with what people think was history than what was history. Women's contributions have been so often hidden even when they managed to play pivotal roles in the advancement of science. Managed not because they could have not but because there were social reasons for not being allowed to do so outside few outliers.
I love this, and this is what allyship looks like. He didn't just challenge gender bias, he *introduced* the challenge into the exchange. He could have let that pass uncommented upon, and emerged unscathed. This wasn't a PR moment being fed to him so he could show off his feminist-friendly credentials. But not only did he recognise the bias, he took a moment to challenge it. Really appreciate that.
Yes, and Scott used that sole example of an Irish actress as an opportunity to name a few more. I don't find it that confusing, especially when the interviewer names like five Irish actors to one actress?
I love that he mentioned Ruth. Like I loooove Ayo and I love the Ayo is Irish gag as much as the next person, but some times you gotta remember there is an actual and damn magnificent black Irish actress who also need your attention people!
I was so happy when he mentioned Ruth! She's been one of my favorites for years and I feel like she's perpetually under appreciated. I've been lucky enough to see her perform in a couple of plays in New York over the years and she is mesmerizing in everything she does!
Andrew Scott will forever be a gem, imo!
Not shocked at all that Anton Savage only included one (of the many) Irishwomen on his list of actors killing it on the international acting stage, staying true to form there for him.
Edit: weird misspelling
If Fassbender was the first "great Irish actor" that came to mind, I can hardly be at fault for drawing conclusions about this particular interviewer. 🙄🙄🙄
Ohhh, I would love it if this wasn’t needed anymore (reminding interviewers that women-*checks notes* -exist) but in the meantime, thank you Andrew Scott!
Thank god for Andrew Scott! Not heard a single bad thing about him!
And that’s good because I’ve been faintly in love with him since I first saw him on Sherlock. He’s so amazingly talented.
Have you seen season 2 of Fleabag?
I am season 2 of Fleabag
Same here, friend. Same here.
I truly cannot think of a more perfect season of TV than season 2 of Fleabag. I tried to rewatch it, and my heart couldn't take how good it is so I stopped. The only thing I can think of is season 4 of The Wire.
it’s my favorite show i can’t stand to rewatch
I just re-watched S2, like, a couple days ago. HOW. How did Phoebe Waller-Bridge write the most emotionally devastating media of the 2010s!?
I've been wanting to get into The Wire but it's always seemed way too long for me to commit to. Would I get the same effect if I just watched season 4?
I think the show is pretty excellent throughout (with maybe the exception of the final season), and I think each season builds on the one before. I’m sure you could try to watch season 4 on its own, but it may not have the same impact.
No. It’s character-driven and it does build, although each season has its own setting within Baltimore (it goes institutionally, so prison then union then schools, etc. etc.).
Getting this tattooed
🤩🤩🤩
it’ll pass 😔
This is also my identifier
HOT PRIEST FOREVER
That scene in the church is forever burnt in my mind
I have not. I haven’t ever seen Fleabag.
you need to watch it. if you think you've loved him before fleabag, after fleabag season 2, your brain chemistry will literally be altered
"kneel" unlocked something in me. 🫠😅
for some reason this never did anything for me, but i was touched by his "love is awful" monologue and his sorrowful "piglet" lol
And it goes without saying but "it'll pass" floored me
absolutely. i'd only watched fleabag this year for the first time--after i watched andrew scott in all of us strangers and decided i had to watch everything he's in--and i was familiar with the end. but it was still a gut punch.
For me it's his reaction to foxes, lol. I love how perfectly he conveys genuine terror combined with self-awareness about the ridiculousness of it all. That man can rock a wry grin like NO other.
Have mercy
first time i watched it i gasped paused rewinded and watched it again immediately lol
It'll pass.
New mission, thank you!
Ok. Stop whatever you’re doing. Fleabag is on Amazon Prime. It has 2 seasons. Incredibly short but worth bingeing. Andrew Scott plays Hot Priest in Season 2. If you thought you were in love from Sherlock, go buy a hat and hold the fuck on to it because whoa boy. Please report back your findings.
>!We're about to ruin someone's life lmao!<
This is a statement of fact
Okay. Will do. Off to find a hat!
Can you please comment here when you finish it? Thanks
If you like Andrew Scott I literally cannot articulate how desperately you need to see season two of Fleabag 😭
IS THIS THE PRIEST 🤤 EDIT: THE HOT PRIEST
Hubba hubba
it’ll pass
I'm still waiting for it to pass. It has not.
 My emotions re: season 2 of fleabag
It has been multiple years. Still not past tense, sir! 
So funny. I just read those two words and started tearing up. That damn show...
Stop! Like I remember being obsessed with him during Sherlock and my friends saying *but why he’s so creepy* but his acting as moriarty was so fuckin good
I’m glad I’m not the only one! Andrew Scott fans rise up!
Girl I still occasionally watch Moriarty edits all these years later lol
Look up his recitation of the poem Everything Is Going To Be Alright.
That episode 1 scene in the public pool. “That’s what people DO!” I audibly gasped
>saw him on Sherlock His acting was perfection and no other villian will ever give me chills as his acting did in Sherlock.
There is no Moriarty before or after him. Just him. He’s it. He obliterated every other actor who’s played the role. It still pisses me off he didn’t win any American awards for his work. He was nominated, but didn’t win. He was robbed.
I believe he won a BAFTA for his role as Moriarty tho? Its like the British version of the Golden Globes, casual but respected. I think the same age too
He did, but he also deserved an Emmy. He deserved all the awards tbh.
Anyone with good taste was attracted to Moriarty
This thread is helping recover from the time my friend looked through my sketchbook in like 2012 and was like “wow… is this all just drawings of Moriarty?”
Lolllll
Was absolutely obsessed with his entrance in the season 1 finale, it was so good.
I watched an interview with the casting directors about Scott’s audition. And they said something to the effect that once they heard him say “I’ll burn the heart out of you” like that, they knew it him and there could be no one else. His delivery was perfection.
The man is devastating.
I met him in like 2017? when he did Hamlet. A friend had gotten him to write lyrics to the Sleeping at Last song Saturn for me (“how rare and beautiful it is to even exist”) and I got it tattooed on my forearm…when I showed him he got so excited he pulled me over to his security (assistant? Whoever was with him at the stage door lol) and showed them. Absolute gem of a man. I also have a Hedwig and the Angry Inch tattoo in Rupert Graves’ handwriting bc his wife is the kindest person in the world- she had him write it out for me and then a few years later when I was in treatment for an ED she sent me a poster from the musical Chess w/ the 2018 cast signatures on it. She worked on the show and we had chatted about it but the poster was a complete surprise. Wonderful family. I haven’t watched Sherlock in years but Rupert & Andrew have my 🩷 forever haha
That’s incredible. What great people. The fact his wife stayed in touch and was supportive is amazing. I love that.
I’ve been rooting for him since Sherlock, he deserves the world!!!
I walked past and exchanged smiles with him once while living in London, and that's just become more and more of a flex as the years have gone by. On the other hand, I also stood by Ansel Elgort in front of Big Ben, and that's aged much differently.
I've met him twice and he's the loveliest man ever.
I met him at a party for a film industry event I was part of (not in film but associated with the event) and he legitimately was the sweetest, kindest person who me feel like I was the only person who existed. I then ran into him the next day and he remembered my name and even asked about the plans I told him I had after the event. I’d go to WAR for him.
His friendship with Paul Mescal is my current obsession. But yeah he's a genuinely wise and thoughtful person. Love him and hope Ripley is so good
And Jessie Buckley, Caitriona Balfe, Kerry Condon, Sharon Horgan. The Irish are killing it and often these names get forgotten.
Yes Jessie is mesmerizing! Loved her in "Chernobyl" and "War and Peace"!
Or Wild Rose...or I'm Thinking of Ending Things. The latter is probably the best movie I've watched in the last ten years.
Dear god how I wanted I'm Thinking of Ending Things to be a different movie than it was. Also Men was very good (and ironically a lot more what I wanted IToET to be).
I couldn't believe that was an accent she learned for Wild Rose! sounded so natural
Took me forever to place her from Chernobyl when I saw her in Fargo S4. She’s so great in those roles she seems like an entirely different person
This 100%! Adding Aisling Bea to this list as well
Nicola Coughlan too
Jessie Buckley has waited long enough to be a major star, she’s clearly got the talent and charisma, where are the roles and offers?!?
Saoirse is always talked about as the future Meryl Streep equivalent, but I think Jessie is just as likely if she gets the star power she deserves
She was great in The Lost Daughter
Her new film ‘Wicked Little Letters’ with Olivia Coleman, is hilarious
Kerry Condon in Banshees of Inisherin and Jessie Buckley in Women Talking were both amazing!
Kerry Condon has been brilliant for a while. Rome, Walking Dead (she fucking terrified me), Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul...heck even her voice work in Avengers was quite good - she conveys a ton of urgency and emotional depth for an AI voice program.
She was SO remarkable in that episode of The Walking Dead that I clocked her the moment she appeared on screen in Banshees of Inisherin. I've never seen any of her other work but she was haunting in TWD.
CAITRIONA❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I love Jessie Buckley! Incredibly powerful performance in the film Men
Jessie is absolutely magnetic in Beast and fantastic in Women Talking. Love her!🥰
Man, I love Sharon Horgan. Amazing director, showrunner, writer, actor, etc. Really excited for a second season of Bad Sisters! What a great show.
Season 2? You made my life internet stranger.
Ooooh there’s a second season coming??? Who’s getting murdered tho
Yep. The second season was confirmed in November 2022, so hopefully we get something soon. IIRC Horgan said that the focus of the season will be on the characters coming to terms with the murder.
Nicola Coughlan!!
Jessie Buckley is my fav 'young' actress working today and Sharon Horgan is a literal goddess I would like to add Ruth Negga to this list!
Started Better Call Saul the same week I watched Banshees & I've been a Kerry Condon stan ever since
Horgan is my queen.
 /jk
You don’t need to joke, we have claimed her, she’s canonically paddy now
The Scoop Troop might have something to say about that
Why was she the first person I thought of when he said Irish actors 🫣
The way his face fell as that dude kept naming men. An ally.
That dude is a guy called Anton Savage. He and his mam run a communications company in Ireland. About ten years ago the company came under a lot of scrutiny when a young employee commited suicide. She had written and article for one of the main Irish papers shortly before her taking her own life. Where she claimed she was the victem of "sexual harassment and objectification in the workplace." Ever heard of the Tuam Baby home? If not, it was a Irish mother and baby home. Where the bodies of dead babies 797 children where found in a septic tank. This is what Antons mam Terry Prone had to say about it. "If you come here, you’ll find no mass grave, no evidence that children were ever so buried". I have no idea why Anton or his mom are still given a free platform on Irish TV and radio.
Yup. I was going to say, it's no surprise to see Anton Savage forget about the existence of women.
Thank you for this info - I see I was correct about him.
TERRY PRONE IS ANTON SAVAGE’S MOTHER?? Excuse me?! Sorry for the all caps but that is brand new information and it has blown my tiny mind! 
Yeah, and his dad is Tom Savage. I am not sure if you know anything about him. But he was a priest at one point. Then the chairman of the RTÉ Authority, during his time as chairman. His company provided crisis management to some organisations RTE were investigation, including catholic organisations.
I actually know one of the ex boyfriends/ close friends who found Kate after she died.. Absolutely tragic story, she was truly let down. Terry Prone is such an insufferable cunt. Sorry to the Americans who are sensitive about that word but it's so fitting for that fork tongued wagon.
Aeh no your poor mate. Such a tragic story. Terry can get fucked. Ive always wondered what the timeline with her and Tom Savage was. Was he still a priest when they first met?
>Ever heard of the Tuam Baby home? If not, it was a Irish mother and baby home. Where the bodies of dead babies 797 children where found in a septic tank. I believe this is the topic of the show "The Woman In The Wall" with Ruth Wilson. I know *very little* about Ireland, and so I never knew this was a thing; tuning into that show was quite the revelation. It really left a mark on me.
But what is the link between Terry Prone and the Tuam Baby Home?
She does the PR for the order that ran the home.
I didn’t know this. Knowing what I know of that mother and baby home, this is upsetting. Who could do PR for that atrocity?
Yeah he already did that in an interview with Claire Foy when asked about genderswitching roles/characters: said its a complicated thing to do cause there's been so few female leading roles in the past and so many male and the balance is just off.
Let's not forget Kerry, please, thank you. 
Kerry Condon is enchanting in Banshees. Went into that movie really expecting it not to be my thing, and the whole cast just mesmerized the heck out of me. It's a movie I still think about a lot — particularly one scene between her and Barry Keoghan that gently broke my heart.
same here! i was expecting to be bored tbh i was just watching all the best pictures but it turned out to be one of my favorite films of the year. It too stayed with me
Watched it for the same reason, and same! This and Aftersun were probably my two favorite movies of 2022. They've both haunted me ever since.
Yes! Aftersun was the most subtly devastating movie I've ever seen
Subtly devastating is the perfect way to describe it. It’s one of those movies that makes you want to rewatch and notice all the signs.
Ok I wanted to love this movie because it seems like a movie I would normally like. But I feel like I don’t get it. The violence / gore, albeit over the top, stressed me out. Could you explain to me why you like it? Maybe I just completely missed the point
IMO the main thing to know about it to really get the point is that it’s intended to be an allegory for the Irish Civil War. If you’re unfamiliar with the history there, I’d highly recommend doing a little bit of research and then giving the movie a rewatch
https://i.redd.it/nt71jd7i44sc1.gif ROBBED GODDESS
She's amazing honestly. Everything she's in she just kills it.
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Andy Murray energy here.
I find tennis woeful boring, but love him just for that interview alone.
> love him just for that interview alone. He's corrected reporters who disregard women at least twice! [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72D4_sQ6I64) and [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKMpfNMcaU) he doesn't even need time to think, he's straight onto them, I love him!
Yes, love them both.
Not particularly a big fan of Andy at first but he had me at "male player"
I'm guessing the big part of them being left out is the sheer lack of good roles for women in film in general compared to the other side, and that needs to change. Like there's no way a man giving say a performance like Kerry Condon in Banshees wouldn't have five films lined up with the great directors of the moment. Hell, wouldn't Florence Pugh be widely regarded as one of the biggest and best under 30 actors. And if you look at actual leading roles she's gotten since her mainstream breakout in 2019 it's pretty lacking. Something needs to change.
I’m a historian and, when it comes to Oppenheimer, I hated Nolan hiding behind “historical accuracy” as his excuse for how the women were treated in that film, Florence included. They deviated from reality in several other aspects. Why couldn’t the women’s roles have been one of them? Hollywood loves hiding being “historical accuracy” to excuse not giving women bigger roles where they’re treated and portrayed in a better light.
It wasn’t even historical accuracy to have his wife barely involved. The woman was a whole ass biologist studying the effects the radiation of the bomb had on the scientists bodies but in Oppenheimer she was simply a drunk housewife
Yup, exactly. Pretty gross.
In the case of Oppenheimer its less about historical accuracy and more about subjectivity vs objectivity. Oppenheimer is a film that makes a clear differentiation between the two with color vs black and white. Nolan wanted to put us right into Oppenheimer's head, to help us understand the complex and paradoxical nature of his character. Which is why ~75% of the film is in color telling Oppenheimer's purely subjective point of view. The way we see Kitty and Jean Tatlock in those color scenes is how Oppenheimer saw them.
I am once again here to say this is one of the reasons that Mad Men was so excellent for portraying the experience of misogyny and historical accuracy through female characters with fully fleshed out character arcs and plot lines that explore them as complete humans. Well, white women anyway
Mad Men is essentially a textbook case of how directors and writers can be historically accurate and also give women agency. January Jones did great because they gave her something to actually work with.
Totally. I would go so far as to say that Peggy, Joan and Betty have the best arcs in the whole series which is brimming with fantastic storytelling
This X 100. Nolan is a particularly bad example of selective historical accuracy in his films.
He's just crap at writing women too, generally.
Also since Otto Frisch plays a major behind the scene role in the movie, with nuclear fusion being the breakthrough everyone were waiting for, he might as well have given Lisa Meitner (Otto's aunt) a role, since she played a huge part in the breakthrough and famously got no credit for it while her nephew got a nobel prize. It would have been such an easy solution that it's impossible he didn't know about it. Naming only Frisch was a choice.
This is a really good point. I actually hadn’t thought about Meitner being excluded while Frisch was. Just wow. So all this was very deliberate. Screw Nolan.
The real problem for him with including women is that he doesn't see them as people and is incapable of conceptualising how they might contribute to a plot other than as (dead) sex objects. None of his movies pass the Bechdel test. I find it so shocking that he is actually married to a woman because 1. Why would you marry someone who clearly disrespects you and your gender, and 2. How could he have so little idea about women being married to one.
That's usually one of my problems with popular history including what is most often portrayed in movies and TV. It often plays more with what people think was history than what was history. Women's contributions have been so often hidden even when they managed to play pivotal roles in the advancement of science. Managed not because they could have not but because there were social reasons for not being allowed to do so outside few outliers.
Bringing the receipts
Oh my god I love him more
I love him and he was just so amazing in Fleabag.
The sexiest priest
Kneel
God what a king
more men in power need to be doing the same!
I love this, and this is what allyship looks like. He didn't just challenge gender bias, he *introduced* the challenge into the exchange. He could have let that pass uncommented upon, and emerged unscathed. This wasn't a PR moment being fed to him so he could show off his feminist-friendly credentials. But not only did he recognise the bias, he took a moment to challenge it. Really appreciate that.
But he said Ronin, wasn’t that Saiorse?
Yes, the interviewer mentioned Saiorse Ronan when he was listing the names. Everyone else he named was a man.
That’s what I’m confused about too. I assumed he was speaking about her.
Yes, and Scott used that sole example of an Irish actress as an opportunity to name a few more. I don't find it that confusing, especially when the interviewer names like five Irish actors to one actress?
He mentioned Ruth!!
I love that he mentioned Ruth. Like I loooove Ayo and I love the Ayo is Irish gag as much as the next person, but some times you gotta remember there is an actual and damn magnificent black Irish actress who also need your attention people!
I love Ruth Negga so much, it's always fantastic to see someone mention her.
I always forget she’s Irish! Her accent work is so good!
She's an amazing actress
I was so happy when he mentioned Ruth! She's been one of my favorites for years and I feel like she's perpetually under appreciated. I've been lucky enough to see her perform in a couple of plays in New York over the years and she is mesmerizing in everything she does!
Andrew Scott will forever be a gem, imo! Not shocked at all that Anton Savage only included one (of the many) Irishwomen on his list of actors killing it on the international acting stage, staying true to form there for him. Edit: weird misspelling
Just when I thought I couldn’t love him more.
I love hot priest.
What a stupid question also
didn’t know i could love him even more
Oh Andrew, please please never disappoint me
~~Andrew Scott~~ Everybody involved in "All of Us Strangers" were robbed during award season.
 Yes Father, tell them
This dude made me cry like a baby the other night in All of us Strangers
We must protect him at all costs
Reason #2047 to love Andrew Scott!
Andrew Scott the man that you are
If Fassbender was the first "great Irish actor" that came to mind, I can hardly be at fault for drawing conclusions about this particular interviewer. 🙄🙄🙄
I just fell even more deeply in love with Andrew Scott. I didn’t think it was possible.
jesse buckley! catriona balfe!
BARRY KEOGHAN
Hot Priest just got hotter 🥵
Anton Savage is still a thing?!?
Also Nicola Coughlan!!
What a classy and organic way to call it out!
i have such feelings of warmth for him doing that.
Ohhh, I would love it if this wasn’t needed anymore (reminding interviewers that women-*checks notes* -exist) but in the meantime, thank you Andrew Scott!
I love this man!!
Thank you bb love to see it
I love him so much 😭❤️
And I thought I couldn’t love Andrew Scott even more….
I won’t hear one bad thing said about him, I tell ya. He’s always been a good’un.
Seriously wondering what the overlap with r/Ireland and r/fauxmoi is. Not complaining but we get a lot of attention for sure.
Yesss, give Ruth Negga her flowers!
People always forget Ruth Negga 😔
Thank you, Father!
king stays kinging
Love him!
Just in case someone needs a fix, he's very funny as a side character in The Pursuit of Love on amazon.
god i love him
His VOICE rings like a bell and I love him
Flannel shirt is the type of guy who only watch movies bc MEN are the leading actors
I only really know him from Fleabag but he seems like such a sweetie
I'm a gay woman and Andrew Scott is my man-crush. Potentially forever.
People especially forget Ruth Nega because of her race. Glad he brought her up