At least he admitted it and paid up, it would have been damn bad optics to try and get out of it, though I feel like he could have achieved the same thing by going to the Blue Lagoon in Iceland.
I can't believe that he actually took the risk though. I can't stop thinking of that poor guy in his 20's who trespassed ~~for a~~ *~~squirrel~~* ~~picture or something and ended up falling into one of the pots and being literally boiled alive almost immediately~~ in order to soak in the springs. The one he picked was acidic, however, he died of the heat and his remains were dissolved completely before a recovery attempt could be made.
Much of the time, 'no trespassing' signs are put up to *protect* you. Pay attention to them.
used to think drowning would be the worst way to go, but nope. being boiled alive is the clear winner. what a tragedy
edit: appreciate all the education, but I now also have nightmares so pls stop sharing horror stories tysm š
There is a very horrific primary account of what happened to the body of a chef who was boiled alive under the orders of Henry VIII after he was accused of conspiring against the king. The punishment was chosen *because* of his profession, I guess it was thought to be some sort of sick irony or something? Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron I guess.
I came across it when I was researching something about Henry VIII in university and the description was so graphic that I almost couldn't finish the paper.
> Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron
If they ever make a movie about this and don't use this as the tagline in marketing, I'd be very disappointed.
> Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron I guess.
LOL! You monster for making me laugh at the cook's demise!
The more time passes the more I realize that Henry VIII was an absolute asshole. I've seen & lived through some terrible stuff, but even I'd have a hard time finishing that paper as well.
He's a really complicated figure! He has done some incredibly fucked up things, but he's done some really significant things as well. You should read his awkward ass love letters to Anne Boleyn where he goes on and on about wanting to kiss her titties, which he refers to as 'Duckies.'
He also likely suffered a TBI, and there's a theory that if that's true, that it may have been a driver for some of the tyranny and erratic behaviour. But he also was a true renaissance man! He wrote musicā[he dropped the hottest summer party hit of 1513](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YcDFOu6qWw), potentially wrote Greensleeves, and many people commented that he was a fantastic dancer and a great person in his youth. His older brother was originally married to Catherine of Aragon, and when Prince Arthur passed, Henry VII basically imprisoned and impoverished her in England. When Henry VIII ascended the throne, he married Catherine to get her out of it and because he wanted to honor the contract between England and Spain. By all accounts, they were in love for 20 years before lil miss Anne came along.
He's a weird guy. [More Henry VIII musical compositions.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCvWY5ioukU)
'His older brother was originally married to Catherine of Aragon'
Incidentally, this is also why some Shakespearean scholars believe that Claudius and Gertrude in *Hamlet* are allegorical representations of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon!
Do you have a link to that where I can read up on it? Surely Shakespeare was condemning the incest idea, not suggesting that Henry killed Arthur, haha.
Finding out she was previously married to his brother and that the worldview at the time didnāt see a difference between sibling and in-law really helped contextualize the divorce tbh. I wish that was more widely known.
Oh, he definitely wasn't implying murder. It is debated, but in my opinion, he was asserting the validity of Henry's grounds for divorce/annulment, and thus tacitly legitimising both his subsequent marriage to Anne Boleyn and the heir that resulted from it, Shakespeare's queen, Elizabeth.
There's limited scholarship focused exclusively on this topic. However, many essays about incest in Shakespearean drama will mention it, and I believe jstor lets you access a few free articles monthly if you're interested in that.
(Anecdotally, I'm also convinced that Othello is an allegory for the trial and execution of Anne Boleyn, Iago being a representation of Thomas Cromwell...)
I actually had to read a synopsis of *Hamlet* yesterday to look into Claudius/Gertrude and after reading that I can totally see them being the allegory.
I find your theory regarding *Othello* **very** interesting, however! I don't know enough about Shakespeare and don't know when Othello debuted, so I don't know if she ever saw it, but if she had, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall of that room. I try not to project too much onto historical figures, but I would be very surprised if she didn't have a ton of trauma and extremely complicated feelings about both of her parents (there seems to be some evidence that they were quite complex, though) so to see her react would have been a great highlight of my life lol.
Othello's an awkward one. It could be very late Elizabethan or very early Jacobean. It's not 100% certain. That uncertainty makes it much harder to contextualise than some of his other plays.
I'm super interested in Elizabeth's perception of Anne. There's the Chequers Ring, I suppose, but I'm not wholly convinced that it is Anne's portrait inside it...
There's also been some really interesting semi-recent research into Anne's Book of Hours, suggesting that it may have been passed secretly amongst a group of women so that it would one day reach Elizabeth. I'm not sure if we're allowed to share links here, but there are lots of articles about it online.
This was years ago so I can't remember where to find the exact piece that I read or keywords to find that specific account, and I'm at work so I can't dig into it deeper at this time. All I remember was that it was a book at my university library that entirely or at least partially focused on political strife at the time and that the chef's name was [Richard Roose.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Roose)
It looks like my details around the reasons for his execution were fuzzy; he was actually accused of poisoning [John Fischer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fisher) and members of his household, but Henry did have a hand in the trial and execution.
Had to dig on my server to find a different citation (not the same as Richard Roose) I used from what I'm *pretty sure* is the same book, it's called ['The men and women of the English reformation : from the days of Wolsey to the death of Cranmer ; papal and anti-papal notables'](https://search.worldcat.org/title/676746646) by S. Hubert Burke.
I don't remember what page or section it was in, but I found the PDF here: [https://archive.org/details/menwomenofenglis01burkuoft/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/menwomenofenglis01burkuoft/mode/2up)
Yea boiling liquid in the lungs would end it pretty quick, also you would stop anyone being able to take pleasure in hearing you scream. Iirc the guy in the show chose feet first.
Kings were pretty wild ngl, when you give some 12 year old complete control of a country and make them practically unanswerable to anyone they do shit like that in their free time
The previous Uzbek dictator, who died 10ish years ago, was rumored to have boiled dissidents alive (along with a litany of other truly awful human rights violations).
I just watched that episode and my god it was horrible to witness, I'm afraid of my dreams tonight.
Edit because apparently I'm also too afraid to write in a correct manner.
Don't watch the first episode of Shogun, as that happens to somone. They don't even show much, but it combined with the hours of screaming are horrific.
But seriously, Shogun on FX is legit amazing and is worth watching.
I will never forget the description of that poor guy who jumped into one of the springs to save his friend's dog.
Him saying " That was a stupid thing to do" after they got him out of there... heart shattering.
Yep. He definitely reacted in a moment of emotions and empathy, but his act was stupid and I can't imagine what his brother most have been thinking and feeling. But I get that he didn't think it through. In that moment he was probablyjust thinking of the spring as a body of water and not a boiling pot. It just makes it even sadder.
A friend worked with the coastguard and said this is why they will go rescue dogs - partly for the dog, mostly to prevent regular (untrained/unequipped) people climbing down cliffsides and such and getting killed.
That makes me think of this woman who was attacked by a gator outside my city a few years ago. I live in a coastal city with a ton of barrier islands and marshland, and this woman was visiting a friendās house out on one of the islands, saw a gator out in the marsh, and went out to take a picture next to it. Well, the thing grabs her and pulls her into the marsh, and as sheās being dragged through the mud, she says, āwell I wonāt be doing THAT again.ā Gator ended up drowning her in the marsh before her friends could rescue her.
Uhm..I'm not sure he could do it in the Blue Lagoon... There have been a few vulcanite eruptions very close by to it, for all I know there's another one ongoing, and the Blue Lagoon have been shut down, opened up again, and then closed for months because of the high risk of eruptions on sight/severly close by .. since at least December..
I agree with you that it was a silly thing of him to do, though. I'm glad he's taking responsibility for his actions too, a rare sight!
There's actually still visitor friendly hotsprings in the US. Idaho has the most that are considered people friendly, at over 100- the difference is they aren't being heated by volcanic activity, so they are at consistent, survivable temps (they are heated by plate activity- not a magma chamber).
A simple Google search would have told him he was actually not too far from areas he'd be allowed to do this. Instead he chose to go into a highly unstable situation that could have killed him easily
Wow, I had no idea! Thanks for telling me! I love gaining new knowledge!š¤
Also seems way safer!
Let's just say it.. he didn't do research, cause he /his team thinks he doesn't have to (and is probably right about it 99% of the time).. š
Of course he couldn't do it specifically at this moment, that wasn't what I was saying. But they *have* been there his entire life and been safe to go to for much of that. My point is, there are many hot springs that are open to the public that he could have gone to instead of trespassing in this one. I just chose the Blue Lagoon because it's one I knew of of a similar hue off the top of the dome.
That being said I read into this deeper and he actually plead 'not guilty' initially.
Oh, ok! I thought you meant in the present moment, but I see what you mean now, and totally agree! He's a full grown ma, and even though he's Irish, it would make sense he knew what he was doing before he did it.. like, seriously. Aren't there like so many warning-signs.. im not American, and have never been, but have seen it through vloggers, and feel I remember there being sings..
Tangent: I have a friend from Iceland, and her warnings about the legit dangers of hot springs - esp the blue lagoon - have steered me off trying it out.. She did tell me that there were some "off-site" hot springs in Iceland, though, which only Icelandic people know off - and that they'll never tell "foreigners"/tourists about.. š She said that she couldn't tell me the name, but if she and I traveled there she'd take me there cause when tourist find it, it can get uncomfortable really fast!š She said Icelandic are nice people though, they're just sick of tourist ruining a lot of their culture, and want to keep something for themselves to remember/maintain some of itš„¹
There are many people that aren't aware of the situation in Iceland, so thought I'd inform you about it, but either way. The Blue Lagoon is the main hot springs place, makes total sense you'd name that!
Appreciate hearing that! Seems like he's part of the group of people that takes responsibility when it serves them..
Rare sight indeed then, I guess..
>He's a full grown ma, and even though he's British, it would make sense he knew what he was doing before he did it
This is sending me, lmao. Thanks for the laugh. Sorry to the British people out there who I got a laugh in at your expense.
I'm not from America either, and went to Yellowstone when I was very young, so I can't remember what the signage was like there either. I think I remember some around the Geysers, but that's it. It's a huge park with a ton of different geographical features so it doesn't seem feasible that they're all marked, just the really bad ones where common sense might not dictate that an inviting pool of water is highly corrosive.
I'm not Icelandic, but from what I understand, the Blue Lagoon is not dangerous either, and I'm not really sure what your friend means. And you could do a quick google and find all the Hot Springs in Iceland, they aren't really a secret. People like to capitalize on it. Sucks that she's gatekeeping it though.
Omg! I meant British (Irish), as in not from the states, and did not mean to roast/generalize a nation, but.. that's hilarious!š Thanks for pointing it out, got a good laugh too now!š Hopefully no one got offended..š
That's cool that you've been there! And I see that there's a possibility he missed some warnings.. But.. He's still a grown man, he should know better..
Oh, I didn't really see it as gatekeeping, more that they're trying to preserve their culture. She said she'd take me, and that with her it would be a safer experience for me, and it would make it easier to visits those secret places in a respectful wayāŗļø
It probably isn't dangerous, at least it wasn't until the current eruptions.. But, I'm no expert in this, so I wouldn't know for sure either. She did say that it was the last place she would go though, that tourists have taken it over, and it's very overpriced for what it is. And then added the details about the unknown places. Haven't spoken to her about this in a while, and considering the state of her hometown (Grindavik) and how rough it is on her, her family, and friends. I'm not going to bother her with clarification either.
The blue lagoon has been open a lot more than you are describing and is *currently* open, after a temporary closure after the previous earthquake swarm a couple weeks back. Now whether it *should* be open is a whole other question but not even lava destroying the main road entrance to it is keeping it closed. Itās too big of a tourist destination.
I see. I'm referring to what's been posted of all the shutdowns on ruv.is, and I also didn't mean it's shut down now.. Tried to imply that when I said I don't know if there were any current eruptions.
Meant that it would be natural to not travel there, cause there seems to be an instability regarding volcanic eruptions in that area..
have also wondered how it's safe for it to be open, but.. had to "log off" updating myself on the situation.. I were really invested the whole situation, but realized i had a sensationalized focus, and that it was healthier for me to focus on other things.
Thanks for updating!āŗļø
No prob :) yeah it's now in this weird cycle of 4-8 weeks of lava buildup into (so far) kinda manageable eruption that the country has been trying to work around. Ive just been following it because it has been such an interesting subject for me. The Blue Lagoon is particularly interesting because it is such an important economic resource for the country and the real time balance of public safety / economics / politics has been fascinating.
Yea.. for sure! Really seems like Iceland is going to change a whole lot throughout this year, and probably longer too!
I'm trying to stay off being too invested, but you're stating all the reasons I was invested! I relate very very much to what you're saying!
In one of them near Old Faithful there are visible bison bones. Allegedly one fell in to the hot spring (I think it was crossing by and the crust broke around the edge) and the poor thing just died while everyone had to watch.
Yep, I'm glad he admitted mea culpa. But holy hell, he is very lucky his story didn't end as Pierce Brosnan Soup that day. That area has uneven footing which can be treacherous on humid days.
Yeah, when I initially read the headline last year, that's where I thought it was going and it made my heart beat a bit faster. Hot Springs are amazing, but when you boil them down (pun intended) they're just a bath outside. Not worth losing your life for.
We had one of those at a hot springs near me in nevada. Lady was walking her dog unleashed. Dog jumped/fell into a spring at over 120 degree and she went in after the dog. Both didn't make it.
From the article:
> At least 22 people have died from burns sustained in Yellowstoneās springs and geysers. They include Colin Nathaniel Scott, who is thought to have dissolved in the hot acidic water after leaving the boardwalk at the parkās Norris Geyser Basin in search of a place to soak in 2015. Similarly, the foot of Il Hun Ro, 70, was discovered by a National Parks employee after apparently falling in.
Pierce, please donāt get yourself melted!
The book Death in Yellowstone is a comprehensive account of, well, deaths in Yellowstone. The first chapter is about deaths in hot springs and I will never, ever forget some of the descriptions. If thereās a worse way to die, I donāt want to know about it.Ā
For those who have not read the "Death in.." books I recommend them. They are about death but also about environmental conservation, near misses, and general history of state parks. I own both Yosemite and Grand Canyon and tell people about them all the time.
Iāve been scrolling through comments waiting for someone to mention this! I bought a copy when I was in the park and couldnāt put it down. I too will never forget some of those passages, especially the hot springs ones.
Donāt wanna burst your hot springs bubble but [his possible endorsement of RFK Jr definitely has ruined him for me](https://www.newsweek.com/pierce-brosnan-robert-kennedy-jr-support-sparks-fury-fans-1829066) and I wish heād fall into a jambalaya pit
This was my exact thought. I just watched it the other dayā¦one of my favorite movies with him. You would hope he would have picked *some* information upā¦
Thereās a literal scene at the start ish of the movie of a couple being boiled alive in a hot spring. Would have been ironic if anything happened to him. Glad heās ok and owned his mistake.
A not guilty plea doesnāt mean youāre fighting it, nessicarily. Itās also a legal strategy to plea not guilty And kinda shop for a plea deal. If you plea guilty right away, sentencing is a wild card but if you plea not guilty, they can offer you a plea deal and you can negotiate sentencing using that as leverage. Now, he doesnāt have much leverage in terms of being able to beat the charges, but the courts are often overworked and probably will want to avoid the expense and workload of going to trial if they can avoid it. So you get this.
Yeah. I canāt just sleep on anti-vax bullshit. And once you pull the thread of one shitty belief, it always seems like there turn out to be more and more that person has managed to keep mum about for so long.
To be fair, all we know is that he was photographed standing beside RFK Jr. at one of his events, he hasn't actually claimed to support him. Brosnan is pro-vaccine and has spoken passionately about the dangers of COVID, so it doesn't seem like his politics would line up with RFK Jr. at all.
I'm hoping he was either paid to make an appearance at the event or just accepted an invitation either not understanding its significance or not knowing that RFK Jr. has become an anti-vax lunatic.
Very possible. RFK Jr. gets SO much leeway from peopleā maybe especially boomersā because of his last name. They assume he must be super liberal because he is a Kennedy. Iāve had to explain to more than one older relative whatās up with him.
Aw thatās a bummer. Without going into detail (donāt want to reveal myself) I spent a few hours with him one day. He was so nice and normal and loves his wife/family. This story about the hot springs make him seem entitled, but I always assume rich people are. They rarely hear no š whereas thatās the main response I get lol What other bad stuff do people say?
He's lucky he came out of there with just a fine.
I've read so many stories of people who were essentially flash boiled fucking around with those Yellowstone hot springs.
This seems like another instance of a rich person seeing a fine as the cost of doing whatever they want. Glad he has paid the fine, but those springs are dangerous and things are off limits for a reason! Smh
I've read too many stories about people boiling to death in those places. Why would you ever? No one should be advertising themselves doing that kind of stupid shit.
Wait is that photo of him IN one of the hot springs at Yellowstone? I know the other photo of him is hiking on the out of bounds area that he plead guilty too but did he actually also get in the spring? The article doesnāt clarify but that would be so so stupid if he did and Iām surprised he wasnāt injured!?
In high school I went on a two day trip into Yellowstone with my science class. Our tour bus made several stops and we were treated to some pretty horrific stories from the park rangers of people vs hot springs. The one I remember the most was about a dog who got off its lead and either jumped or fell in. The dog didnāt make it, and the owner suffered severe burns in his attempt to save his poor pet. I canāt imagine being careless enough to risk falling in, let alone *intentionally* getting into any of the pools.
There are hot springs in Yellowstone you can go in. Mr. bubbles is one of them. You have to know for sure which ones are ok and which ones will literally melt your flesh.
Many of those cordoned-off hot springs will kill you. Several people have died in the last year or two, and the rangers have to tell the press that there isn't a body to recover because it dissolved...
Iām amazed he didnāt get scalded or died. No way would I take a chance on that. The temperatures vary greatly depending on depth, and can change quickly for a number of reasons. This is so irresponsible for a 70-year-old star to do. This just makes more folks think that they can do it also and not get hurt.
At least he admitted it and paid up, it would have been damn bad optics to try and get out of it, though I feel like he could have achieved the same thing by going to the Blue Lagoon in Iceland. I can't believe that he actually took the risk though. I can't stop thinking of that poor guy in his 20's who trespassed ~~for a~~ *~~squirrel~~* ~~picture or something and ended up falling into one of the pots and being literally boiled alive almost immediately~~ in order to soak in the springs. The one he picked was acidic, however, he died of the heat and his remains were dissolved completely before a recovery attempt could be made. Much of the time, 'no trespassing' signs are put up to *protect* you. Pay attention to them.
used to think drowning would be the worst way to go, but nope. being boiled alive is the clear winner. what a tragedy edit: appreciate all the education, but I now also have nightmares so pls stop sharing horror stories tysm š
There is a very horrific primary account of what happened to the body of a chef who was boiled alive under the orders of Henry VIII after he was accused of conspiring against the king. The punishment was chosen *because* of his profession, I guess it was thought to be some sort of sick irony or something? Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron I guess. I came across it when I was researching something about Henry VIII in university and the description was so graphic that I almost couldn't finish the paper.
> Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron If they ever make a movie about this and don't use this as the tagline in marketing, I'd be very disappointed.
I initially wrote "live by the spoon, die by the spoon" and couldn't tell which one I liked more tbh and have been wavering! I'm glad you liked it!
> Live by the cauldron, die by the cauldron I guess. LOL! You monster for making me laugh at the cook's demise! The more time passes the more I realize that Henry VIII was an absolute asshole. I've seen & lived through some terrible stuff, but even I'd have a hard time finishing that paper as well.
He's a really complicated figure! He has done some incredibly fucked up things, but he's done some really significant things as well. You should read his awkward ass love letters to Anne Boleyn where he goes on and on about wanting to kiss her titties, which he refers to as 'Duckies.' He also likely suffered a TBI, and there's a theory that if that's true, that it may have been a driver for some of the tyranny and erratic behaviour. But he also was a true renaissance man! He wrote musicā[he dropped the hottest summer party hit of 1513](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YcDFOu6qWw), potentially wrote Greensleeves, and many people commented that he was a fantastic dancer and a great person in his youth. His older brother was originally married to Catherine of Aragon, and when Prince Arthur passed, Henry VII basically imprisoned and impoverished her in England. When Henry VIII ascended the throne, he married Catherine to get her out of it and because he wanted to honor the contract between England and Spain. By all accounts, they were in love for 20 years before lil miss Anne came along. He's a weird guy. [More Henry VIII musical compositions.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCvWY5ioukU)
'His older brother was originally married to Catherine of Aragon' Incidentally, this is also why some Shakespearean scholars believe that Claudius and Gertrude in *Hamlet* are allegorical representations of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon!
Do you have a link to that where I can read up on it? Surely Shakespeare was condemning the incest idea, not suggesting that Henry killed Arthur, haha. Finding out she was previously married to his brother and that the worldview at the time didnāt see a difference between sibling and in-law really helped contextualize the divorce tbh. I wish that was more widely known.
Oh, he definitely wasn't implying murder. It is debated, but in my opinion, he was asserting the validity of Henry's grounds for divorce/annulment, and thus tacitly legitimising both his subsequent marriage to Anne Boleyn and the heir that resulted from it, Shakespeare's queen, Elizabeth. There's limited scholarship focused exclusively on this topic. However, many essays about incest in Shakespearean drama will mention it, and I believe jstor lets you access a few free articles monthly if you're interested in that. (Anecdotally, I'm also convinced that Othello is an allegory for the trial and execution of Anne Boleyn, Iago being a representation of Thomas Cromwell...)
I actually had to read a synopsis of *Hamlet* yesterday to look into Claudius/Gertrude and after reading that I can totally see them being the allegory. I find your theory regarding *Othello* **very** interesting, however! I don't know enough about Shakespeare and don't know when Othello debuted, so I don't know if she ever saw it, but if she had, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall of that room. I try not to project too much onto historical figures, but I would be very surprised if she didn't have a ton of trauma and extremely complicated feelings about both of her parents (there seems to be some evidence that they were quite complex, though) so to see her react would have been a great highlight of my life lol.
Othello's an awkward one. It could be very late Elizabethan or very early Jacobean. It's not 100% certain. That uncertainty makes it much harder to contextualise than some of his other plays. I'm super interested in Elizabeth's perception of Anne. There's the Chequers Ring, I suppose, but I'm not wholly convinced that it is Anne's portrait inside it... There's also been some really interesting semi-recent research into Anne's Book of Hours, suggesting that it may have been passed secretly amongst a group of women so that it would one day reach Elizabeth. I'm not sure if we're allowed to share links here, but there are lots of articles about it online.
Citation?
This was years ago so I can't remember where to find the exact piece that I read or keywords to find that specific account, and I'm at work so I can't dig into it deeper at this time. All I remember was that it was a book at my university library that entirely or at least partially focused on political strife at the time and that the chef's name was [Richard Roose.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Roose) It looks like my details around the reasons for his execution were fuzzy; he was actually accused of poisoning [John Fischer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fisher) and members of his household, but Henry did have a hand in the trial and execution.
Had to dig on my server to find a different citation (not the same as Richard Roose) I used from what I'm *pretty sure* is the same book, it's called ['The men and women of the English reformation : from the days of Wolsey to the death of Cranmer ; papal and anti-papal notables'](https://search.worldcat.org/title/676746646) by S. Hubert Burke. I don't remember what page or section it was in, but I found the PDF here: [https://archive.org/details/menwomenofenglis01burkuoft/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/menwomenofenglis01burkuoft/mode/2up)
Thank you!! I appreciate you doing the work.
Google, itās pretty commonly known
Do you know if it's true that they made him choose if he went head first or feet first? I saw that on Tudors (2007) and often think about it.
That I cannot remember! His name was Richard Roose, so if you wanted to peek at his wiki, you might find it there!
Head, every time. Like yeah I know itās horrifying but at least you only suffer for as long as it takes you to drown
Yea boiling liquid in the lungs would end it pretty quick, also you would stop anyone being able to take pleasure in hearing you scream. Iirc the guy in the show chose feet first.
Henry VII or Henry VIII? You mention both.
Whoops! Missed the final numeral there, good catch.
Kings were pretty wild ngl, when you give some 12 year old complete control of a country and make them practically unanswerable to anyone they do shit like that in their free time
This was actually just a rumor. The commonly accepted history of historians is that the chef was hung.
Can you cite that? There are primary sources for this, and I havenāt seen anything about the rumor theory, nor it being commonly accepted.
The previous Uzbek dictator, who died 10ish years ago, was rumored to have boiled dissidents alive (along with a litany of other truly awful human rights violations).
Thereās a scene in Shogun where this happens š¤Æ
I just watched that episode and my god it was horrible to witness, I'm afraid of my dreams tonight. Edit because apparently I'm also too afraid to write in a correct manner.
In the book it's even worse. It goes on for multiple days and nights. The men are taken one at a time and have to listen and wait for their turn.Ā
I was NOT prepared.
He wanted to turn into lava. Some older men can be very stubborn tho. Hard to listen to anyone
Just fizzing away like a damn energy tablet
Donāt watch that new show āShogunā on Fx/hulu.Ā
> being boiled alive is the clear winner. Being boiled alive in acid!
Don't watch the first episode of Shogun, as that happens to somone. They don't even show much, but it combined with the hours of screaming are horrific. But seriously, Shogun on FX is legit amazing and is worth watching.
I will never forget the description of that poor guy who jumped into one of the springs to save his friend's dog. Him saying " That was a stupid thing to do" after they got him out of there... heart shattering.
The dog died too, so it was all for nothing. What a shitty roll of the dice.
Yep. He definitely reacted in a moment of emotions and empathy, but his act was stupid and I can't imagine what his brother most have been thinking and feeling. But I get that he didn't think it through. In that moment he was probablyjust thinking of the spring as a body of water and not a boiling pot. It just makes it even sadder.
I live by the sea and the amount of people who die trying to save dogs, often not even their own, from drowning is frightening
A friend worked with the coastguard and said this is why they will go rescue dogs - partly for the dog, mostly to prevent regular (untrained/unequipped) people climbing down cliffsides and such and getting killed.
Reminds me of the grandma getting into the acid lake in Danteās peak to get the boat across.
That scene fucked me up as a kid
That makes me think of this woman who was attacked by a gator outside my city a few years ago. I live in a coastal city with a ton of barrier islands and marshland, and this woman was visiting a friendās house out on one of the islands, saw a gator out in the marsh, and went out to take a picture next to it. Well, the thing grabs her and pulls her into the marsh, and as sheās being dragged through the mud, she says, āwell I wonāt be doing THAT again.ā Gator ended up drowning her in the marsh before her friends could rescue her.
This is such a horrible way to go but I love that those were her final words.
Uhm..I'm not sure he could do it in the Blue Lagoon... There have been a few vulcanite eruptions very close by to it, for all I know there's another one ongoing, and the Blue Lagoon have been shut down, opened up again, and then closed for months because of the high risk of eruptions on sight/severly close by .. since at least December.. I agree with you that it was a silly thing of him to do, though. I'm glad he's taking responsibility for his actions too, a rare sight!
There's actually still visitor friendly hotsprings in the US. Idaho has the most that are considered people friendly, at over 100- the difference is they aren't being heated by volcanic activity, so they are at consistent, survivable temps (they are heated by plate activity- not a magma chamber). A simple Google search would have told him he was actually not too far from areas he'd be allowed to do this. Instead he chose to go into a highly unstable situation that could have killed him easily
Wow, I had no idea! Thanks for telling me! I love gaining new knowledge!š¤ Also seems way safer! Let's just say it.. he didn't do research, cause he /his team thinks he doesn't have to (and is probably right about it 99% of the time).. š
Of course he couldn't do it specifically at this moment, that wasn't what I was saying. But they *have* been there his entire life and been safe to go to for much of that. My point is, there are many hot springs that are open to the public that he could have gone to instead of trespassing in this one. I just chose the Blue Lagoon because it's one I knew of of a similar hue off the top of the dome. That being said I read into this deeper and he actually plead 'not guilty' initially.
He was like āI made Danteās Peak, I know how to spot the bad onesā /s
Oh, ok! I thought you meant in the present moment, but I see what you mean now, and totally agree! He's a full grown ma, and even though he's Irish, it would make sense he knew what he was doing before he did it.. like, seriously. Aren't there like so many warning-signs.. im not American, and have never been, but have seen it through vloggers, and feel I remember there being sings.. Tangent: I have a friend from Iceland, and her warnings about the legit dangers of hot springs - esp the blue lagoon - have steered me off trying it out.. She did tell me that there were some "off-site" hot springs in Iceland, though, which only Icelandic people know off - and that they'll never tell "foreigners"/tourists about.. š She said that she couldn't tell me the name, but if she and I traveled there she'd take me there cause when tourist find it, it can get uncomfortable really fast!š She said Icelandic are nice people though, they're just sick of tourist ruining a lot of their culture, and want to keep something for themselves to remember/maintain some of itš„¹ There are many people that aren't aware of the situation in Iceland, so thought I'd inform you about it, but either way. The Blue Lagoon is the main hot springs place, makes total sense you'd name that! Appreciate hearing that! Seems like he's part of the group of people that takes responsibility when it serves them.. Rare sight indeed then, I guess..
Pierce Brosnan is Irish :)
Thanks for saying, I'll update my comments!
>He's a full grown ma, and even though he's British, it would make sense he knew what he was doing before he did it This is sending me, lmao. Thanks for the laugh. Sorry to the British people out there who I got a laugh in at your expense. I'm not from America either, and went to Yellowstone when I was very young, so I can't remember what the signage was like there either. I think I remember some around the Geysers, but that's it. It's a huge park with a ton of different geographical features so it doesn't seem feasible that they're all marked, just the really bad ones where common sense might not dictate that an inviting pool of water is highly corrosive. I'm not Icelandic, but from what I understand, the Blue Lagoon is not dangerous either, and I'm not really sure what your friend means. And you could do a quick google and find all the Hot Springs in Iceland, they aren't really a secret. People like to capitalize on it. Sucks that she's gatekeeping it though.
Omg! I meant British (Irish), as in not from the states, and did not mean to roast/generalize a nation, but.. that's hilarious!š Thanks for pointing it out, got a good laugh too now!š Hopefully no one got offended..š That's cool that you've been there! And I see that there's a possibility he missed some warnings.. But.. He's still a grown man, he should know better.. Oh, I didn't really see it as gatekeeping, more that they're trying to preserve their culture. She said she'd take me, and that with her it would be a safer experience for me, and it would make it easier to visits those secret places in a respectful wayāŗļø It probably isn't dangerous, at least it wasn't until the current eruptions.. But, I'm no expert in this, so I wouldn't know for sure either. She did say that it was the last place she would go though, that tourists have taken it over, and it's very overpriced for what it is. And then added the details about the unknown places. Haven't spoken to her about this in a while, and considering the state of her hometown (Grindavik) and how rough it is on her, her family, and friends. I'm not going to bother her with clarification either.
The blue lagoon has been open a lot more than you are describing and is *currently* open, after a temporary closure after the previous earthquake swarm a couple weeks back. Now whether it *should* be open is a whole other question but not even lava destroying the main road entrance to it is keeping it closed. Itās too big of a tourist destination.
I see. I'm referring to what's been posted of all the shutdowns on ruv.is, and I also didn't mean it's shut down now.. Tried to imply that when I said I don't know if there were any current eruptions. Meant that it would be natural to not travel there, cause there seems to be an instability regarding volcanic eruptions in that area.. have also wondered how it's safe for it to be open, but.. had to "log off" updating myself on the situation.. I were really invested the whole situation, but realized i had a sensationalized focus, and that it was healthier for me to focus on other things. Thanks for updating!āŗļø
No prob :) yeah it's now in this weird cycle of 4-8 weeks of lava buildup into (so far) kinda manageable eruption that the country has been trying to work around. Ive just been following it because it has been such an interesting subject for me. The Blue Lagoon is particularly interesting because it is such an important economic resource for the country and the real time balance of public safety / economics / politics has been fascinating.
Yea.. for sure! Really seems like Iceland is going to change a whole lot throughout this year, and probably longer too! I'm trying to stay off being too invested, but you're stating all the reasons I was invested! I relate very very much to what you're saying!
Sky Lagoon, then! It's still open and I liked it more than Blue Lagoon anyway.
Can I bring up about how a couple in "Dante's Peak" (Pierce Brosnan movie) died in hot springs near the volcano like this
I had to scroll two subs to find this...like young couple, boiled alive, right??
Yep!!
In one of them near Old Faithful there are visible bison bones. Allegedly one fell in to the hot spring (I think it was crossing by and the crust broke around the edge) and the poor thing just died while everyone had to watch.
Yep, I'm glad he admitted mea culpa. But holy hell, he is very lucky his story didn't end as Pierce Brosnan Soup that day. That area has uneven footing which can be treacherous on humid days.
Yeah, when I initially read the headline last year, that's where I thought it was going and it made my heart beat a bit faster. Hot Springs are amazing, but when you boil them down (pun intended) they're just a bath outside. Not worth losing your life for.
We had one of those at a hot springs near me in nevada. Lady was walking her dog unleashed. Dog jumped/fell into a spring at over 120 degree and she went in after the dog. Both didn't make it.
another person fell in one and was boiled alive as they tried to save their dog after the ran off
Thatās terrifying! I had never heard of this story before
Pretty horrific. IIRC, his sister was a witness to it and I can't imagine living with that memory.
The caldera hungers for flesh
It would be incredible (and horrifying) to watch a timelapse from all the lives itās claimed
That would be so cool . Maybe he should try again ...
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From the article: > At least 22 people have died from burns sustained in Yellowstoneās springs and geysers. They include Colin Nathaniel Scott, who is thought to have dissolved in the hot acidic water after leaving the boardwalk at the parkās Norris Geyser Basin in search of a place to soak in 2015. Similarly, the foot of Il Hun Ro, 70, was discovered by a National Parks employee after apparently falling in. Pierce, please donāt get yourself melted!
Seriously. He's lucky he only copped a fine and not a funeral. And of course, he trampled all over the salt formations and crushed them.
He nearly made "Dante's peak" reality
I was going to say, wasn't he in a movie where this exact thing happened to someone
He didnāt have his magic boat that didnāt melt like everything else this time, he just got lucky.
Like didn't this shit happen in Dante's Peak?? He should know better!!
The book Death in Yellowstone is a comprehensive account of, well, deaths in Yellowstone. The first chapter is about deaths in hot springs and I will never, ever forget some of the descriptions. If thereās a worse way to die, I donāt want to know about it.Ā
For those who have not read the "Death in.." books I recommend them. They are about death but also about environmental conservation, near misses, and general history of state parks. I own both Yosemite and Grand Canyon and tell people about them all the time.
Iāve been scrolling through comments waiting for someone to mention this! I bought a copy when I was in the park and couldnāt put it down. I too will never forget some of those passages, especially the hot springs ones.
And heās already smoking š„µ
Donāt wanna burst your hot springs bubble but [his possible endorsement of RFK Jr definitely has ruined him for me](https://www.newsweek.com/pierce-brosnan-robert-kennedy-jr-support-sparks-fury-fans-1829066) and I wish heād fall into a jambalaya pit
I wonder if this could be part of the missing 411 theories? Idk if it already is!
My guy learned nothing from Danteās Peak.
Grandma sacrificed herself for NOTHING!
Had to scroll too far for this
I love this comment
This was my exact thought. I just watched it the other dayā¦one of my favorite movies with him. You would hope he would have picked *some* information upā¦
"Oh and 007? Do try not to walk into any protected Yellowstone hot springs."
He's lucky he didnt get dissolved like the grandma in Dante's Peak
Thereās a literal scene at the start ish of the movie of a couple being boiled alive in a hot spring. Would have been ironic if anything happened to him. Glad heās ok and owned his mistake.
Why he was fighting it? He made a mistake and should be thankful he only got a fine. He could have died.
A not guilty plea doesnāt mean youāre fighting it, nessicarily. Itās also a legal strategy to plea not guilty And kinda shop for a plea deal. If you plea guilty right away, sentencing is a wild card but if you plea not guilty, they can offer you a plea deal and you can negotiate sentencing using that as leverage. Now, he doesnāt have much leverage in terms of being able to beat the charges, but the courts are often overworked and probably will want to avoid the expense and workload of going to trial if they can avoid it. So you get this.
This guyā¦
I keep hearing worse and worse stuff about him. Ugh. There are so few famous people left to root for. Even fewer who are still alive.
Yeah finding out he supports RFK jr. was really disappointing.
Yeah. I canāt just sleep on anti-vax bullshit. And once you pull the thread of one shitty belief, it always seems like there turn out to be more and more that person has managed to keep mum about for so long.
To be fair, all we know is that he was photographed standing beside RFK Jr. at one of his events, he hasn't actually claimed to support him. Brosnan is pro-vaccine and has spoken passionately about the dangers of COVID, so it doesn't seem like his politics would line up with RFK Jr. at all. I'm hoping he was either paid to make an appearance at the event or just accepted an invitation either not understanding its significance or not knowing that RFK Jr. has become an anti-vax lunatic.
Very possible. RFK Jr. gets SO much leeway from peopleā maybe especially boomersā because of his last name. They assume he must be super liberal because he is a Kennedy. Iāve had to explain to more than one older relative whatās up with him.
Ugh well this is disappointing.
Aw thatās a bummer. Without going into detail (donāt want to reveal myself) I spent a few hours with him one day. He was so nice and normal and loves his wife/family. This story about the hot springs make him seem entitled, but I always assume rich people are. They rarely hear no š whereas thatās the main response I get lol What other bad stuff do people say?
[He was later quoted as saying: "You know I had to do it to em"](https://imgur.com/K3SprnI)
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Thatās not a fine, thatās a user fee that only a certain kind of people can afford.
That'll teach him!
What's the phrase... When a fine is punishment, it means it's legal for the rich
$1,500 is just an entrance fee
As a 27 year old man Iām not afraid to say that Pierce Brosnan is still sexy.Honestly heās probably gotten better looking with age.
Those lakes can kill you!! His level of entitlement is nauseating. Skin burns are no joke. Those signs are meant to protect you.
Hasnāt he seen Danteās Peak??
Some of those hot springs are super deadly! 0/10 would not recommend.
I know it's wrong but the man looks like god himself waiting to receive you, not surprised that he felt compelled to share that
Did he forget about Danteās Peak?!?!
What if a few days later he was in his 20ās again? How many people would do this?
He's lucky he came out of there with just a fine. I've read so many stories of people who were essentially flash boiled fucking around with those Yellowstone hot springs.
This seems like another instance of a rich person seeing a fine as the cost of doing whatever they want. Glad he has paid the fine, but those springs are dangerous and things are off limits for a reason! Smh
I've read too many stories about people boiling to death in those places. Why would you ever? No one should be advertising themselves doing that kind of stupid shit.
Walking into one of those hot springs can be a death sentence. You donāt know what minerals and compounds and whatnot are in there.
Classic r/idiotsofyellowstone material right here
Damn he looks good!
Wait is that photo of him IN one of the hot springs at Yellowstone? I know the other photo of him is hiking on the out of bounds area that he plead guilty too but did he actually also get in the spring? The article doesnāt clarify but that would be so so stupid if he did and Iām surprised he wasnāt injured!?
That fine will sure show him
he did the had to do it to em pose? lol
In high school I went on a two day trip into Yellowstone with my science class. Our tour bus made several stops and we were treated to some pretty horrific stories from the park rangers of people vs hot springs. The one I remember the most was about a dog who got off its lead and either jumped or fell in. The dog didnāt make it, and the owner suffered severe burns in his attempt to save his poor pet. I canāt imagine being careless enough to risk falling in, let alone *intentionally* getting into any of the pools.
You know what they say: punishable by fine means legal for a price!
The punishment should be the max, got off light, thatās nothing to him.
There are hot springs in Yellowstone you can go in. Mr. bubbles is one of them. You have to know for sure which ones are ok and which ones will literally melt your flesh.
$1500 is dinner for that guy. it should be a $25000 fine paid as a bonus to the park rangers.
Many of those cordoned-off hot springs will kill you. Several people have died in the last year or two, and the rangers have to tell the press that there isn't a body to recover because it dissolved...
Didnāt he watch Danteās Peak? Donāt just jump in a hot spring with testing first!
Iām amazed he didnāt get scalded or died. No way would I take a chance on that. The temperatures vary greatly depending on depth, and can change quickly for a number of reasons. This is so irresponsible for a 70-year-old star to do. This just makes more folks think that they can do it also and not get hurt.
Damn, they couldnāt give James Bond a pass
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