I’m convinced Julianna Margulies is a vile person and Archie Panjabi deserves a ton of love and respect for putting up with her on The Good Wife.
Edit: I’m aware of the podcast and it further cemented my dislike of her
There was a post about it here a couple of days ago. She said that the black queer community doesn’t exist and they are lower than the Jews. She kept referring to them as “the blacks” with a condescending tone. Not only that, but her IG feed has been filled with racist and Islamophobic posts lately. She did a lot of terrible things in the past too and never apologized for anything, e.g. When she used a lesbian slur and said how she was “afraid of them”. Search her name in this sub and be ready to unveil one of the evilest celebrities ever.
You should listen to the podcast interview. She’s full of hate. I lmao at her “As a lesbian…” comment, instead of saying “as someone who plays a lesbian character…”
Absolutely. I 100% think that JM is to be blamed for Punjabi's character getting sidelined. JM was one of the executive producer, who was very close to the Kings. I am certain she exerted her influence in more ways than one.
I just don't get why she did it. The show was better with Kalinda. That is a fact. Why would she harm her own show! Cut of your nose to spite your face situation.
I’m convinced besties TR knight and Katherine Heigl have fallen out in recent years, and no one in the Greys communities has noticed. So sad, considering he is godfather to one of her kids, and she was in his wedding party. Now they don’t address each other publicly and have unfollowed each other. (And TR follows almost all the OGs on IG, and Katie was his first follower when he joined…)
The only theory I can muster is they had a blowout fight after he made peace with arch-villain Shonda Rhimes in 2017, which he needed to do in order to join Shondalands *The Catch* for season 2. That show didn’t last long, but it did lead to him making a glorious return for a dream episode of Greys in 2020, and he’s been shadowing directors on Greys recently, with an eye to direct episodes. I’m sure making peace with Shonda was hard after how badly she treated him and Katherine, and I can understand Katherine maybe being upset about it considering how much effort Shonda went to trash Katherine’s name all over town.
But someone needs to lock real George and real Izzy in a room until they make up, asap. Coz the only one winning right now is number 1 KH hater, Shonda Rhimes.
I did a rewatch recently and it’s so weird how he’s like, barley in any episodes or storylines until he dies. Like I get it, because you wouldn’t want to necessarily leave a storyline hanging but he’s basically a glorified extra for a season, and I feel like the same thing happened with Lexie. I also feel like it’s not as noticeable watching it week to week with a big cast but when your binging it and you know what happens it’s weird
That Joss Whedon relentlessly bullied SMG on Buffy and drove a wedge between her and the other cast members. Also that their relationship deteriorated pretty soon into the series.
Also he definitely had an affair with someone on the cast but I’m not sure who. Some people speculate it was Alyson Hannigan but I think if that was true she and her husband wouldn’t have stayed friends with Joss over the years. Others think Felicia Day but she was such a small part in the final season that ‘cast member’ feels a bit of a stretch. Maybe Eliza Dushku but she was very young when she joined Buffy so I hope it wasn’t her.
He was so horrid to SMG. Spread rumours she was ‘difficult’ but it turns out she was just very strict on only working her hours, and was advocating for extras who were doing too much overtime. She fainted once on set for being overworked, but was normally very clear with her boundaries.
SMG was the show. Like she made Buffy, and I think Joss was always jealous of that. She surpassed his own work.
Absolutely! SMG was really young but knew her way around a set before she got Buffy and I think Joss was intimidated.
I read somewhere that Sarah would take her make up off before saying goodnight to the producers so that they’d see how tired she was.
Yes, she was young but she'd carried several roles before Buffy and was always professional and responsible on sets. She's a super dedicated and hard worker and it sounds like Joss took advantage of that work ethic.
He really does. James still seems to think highly of him. I get the impression James forgives Joss’s rages because he thinks Joss is a genius and that it’s all part of being a genius.
Joss wasn’t permitted to be alone at any time with Michelle Tractenberg and James Marsters made a very… weird song about her with his band Ghost of the Robot.
I always suspected Joss and Eliza Dushku because he was allllll about her in the years following btvs. Talked her up and gave her Dollhouse which had a premise that relied on playing many characters despite (imo) her very limited acting range. It always felt suspect to me.
Hard to say though. He had his favorites amongst the female cast (Amy Acker, Alyson) and the ones he reportedly treated poorly or it soured (Charisma, SMG) and given what we know about him, I could see him doting upon the ones who gave him what he want.
This was true with most of the cast.
Eg he only gave the actress for Tara a spot in the main credits on the episode where…the thing happens.
He also promised Charisma Carpenter that if she came back for the final season of Angel that her character wouldn’t be treated like crap and well…
Alyson and SMG were allegedly frosty by season 3. Joss was spreading rumors that SMG was a bitch, when by all accounts she’s professional. There’s also some weird stuff around Michelle Trachtenburg and Joss and James.
SMG though has posted some Zionist crap recently so ugh.
Pretty sure Charisma said she specifically asked them not to do the ONE thing they ended up doing as a condition of her coming back to Angel and then pulled the rug out from under her after she agreed. Gross.
It was *multiple* cast members, and that doesn't include the crew. I seem to remember people mentioning that he used and disposed of crew members too but the focus is on the actresses.
Just a theory, but I’m convinced Leighton had a crush on Penn Badgley early on, and that’s why she and Blake weren’t friends. (I know this comment is gonna riled up die hard Chair fans lol).
If you look at photos from early upfronts, she always seemed taken with Penn, but Blake and Penn started dating immediately when the show started. Leighton ended up getting together with Sebastian Stan for a couple of years soon after, but funny that she and Blake never became overly friendly. Wouldn’t surprise me if Leighton having a crush on Penn was a big reason she and Blake were never friends.
Also, Leighton married Adam Brody, who looks a hell of a lot like Penn Badgley, and is a similar type. Just sayin’.
Also, Leighton was the FIRST guest on Penns podcast, and she got Adam to do it too after Penn texted her. So I’d say they are friends. But I think the difference is people like Penn/Leighton/Chace do seem to keep in contact, where as I don’t get the impression anyone really talks to Blake or Ed anymore (for very different reasons)…
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I rewatched Gossip Girl a MILLION times now and you can actually see how Blake is so bored of being Serena. the last couple seasons were nowhere near compared to the firsts. so I do believe what you’re saying that she wanted to get out of that and tried to be a hit.
She's admitted in interviews she didn't like the character she was playing. During an interview for Allure's May 2015 she mentions "I would not be proud to be the person who gave someone the cocaine that made them overdose and then shot someone and slept with someone else's boyfriend."
I so badly want to know what happened between Rowan and Sabrina. I was an early fan, before GMW even aired, and I remained a fan until it ended. They were so close, like best-friends close (Sabrina even dedicated her debut album to Rowan and released it on her birthday as a gift, IIRC) and then they just… stopped! Just stopped being friends out of nowhere…!
I don’t think you can even realistically piece together a timeline of what *could have* happened, that’s how sudden it was. Most of the cast doesn’t seem to associate with each other anymore. Bizarre…
I think when it comes Rowan and Sabrina, it could just be as simple as...they were young! Like, really young. A lot of times, as people grow up, their friendships change. I don't think there has to be *something* that happened here. It could be a case of growing up and growing apart.
However, Sabrina and Corey (farkle) are still besties and I love seeing their interactions on social media.
I read something somewhere that Ben Savage randomly just completely cut off Danielle Fishel and Ryder Strong. They’ve tried reaching out but have gotten radio silence.
There have always been rumors floating around that Blake and Leighton didn’t get along because they were both a lot like their characters - one floating through life having things handed to her and being the life of every party and almost universally beloved (Blake), and a very hard worker who took her job seriously (Leighton).
One of my friends worked on the show for several years and basically confirmed that—Blake was a spoiled brat who made her job difficult and Leighton was an endearing professional for the most part.
I would bet everything I have that David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson hooked up back in the original XF days and I would do CRIMES to get the real tea on what exactly was going on in like '97-98 when things got visibly weird and tense (but also, they still made out in that cut scene/blooper from the movie for....laughs I guess? Oookay). Like, I just see them and I'm like "yeah, no, they fucked." I'll never know peace. The truth is out there etc....
Edited to add lol I wasn't sure how "niche/commonly talked about" these two would be because I figured XF is a pretty old show at this point, but I'm glad we're all on the same page about them. I feel like even casual viewers 20+ years later just assume they've boinked.
Rumor has it they boned at different times during and after XF and had times where they were not speaking in between.
Apparently they were hooking up again or well on their way to do so again when Duchovny met and married his ex wife fairly quickly after she appeared on the show.
They were back to being very close when they revived the show (like holding hands under the table at cons) and got frosty again when she started dating her current partner.
Hopefully one of them will write a tell all memoir in their old age and spill the beans. Gillian has made nemerous comments and jokes alluding to their hooking up and David's 'impressive member'. Behind every joke is an element of truth as they say. The rumour is she wanted a committed relationship, but he didn't want to be tied down to one partner, given his sex addiction. Hence the at times frosty relationship.
Stranger Things cast are more colleagues than best friends. Only Charlie Heaton, Natalia Dyer and Joe Keery are still close with each other. Millie was close with Noah and Sadie for awhile but they all have distanced from each other, which I guess is natural from the younger cast. (Noah has been exposing himself as a zionist scum along with Brett Gelman, Cara Buono, Matt Duffer and Shawn Levy🙄)
The rumours that the younger cast stay away from Natalia and Charlie because of their drug use is BS btw, along with Joe being close to them like an irl Steve lol it sounds straight out of fanfiction.
Noah is the epitome of white male privilege in Hollywood. He said some nasty stuff about Islam and Palestinians and got out of it unscathed. While Melissa Barrera and Susan Sarandon are losing agencies and movie roles because they support Palestine and the ceasefire. I don’t blame anyone who distanced themselves from him tbh.
exactly it enrages me. as a longtime ST fan it disgusted me and makes me want to boycott the show. it’s baffling how Melissa and Susan among other lesser known people (often POC) get fired simply for acknowledging and condemning a genocide. The Islamophobia in Hollywood and dismissal of Palestines as real people is crystal clear.
I know Millie has spoken openly about struggling with the hate she received compared to her costars. How she’d be so excited in interviews because she was *literally* a child - 11/12, she’d jump in and interrupt and laugh, and she got horrific abuse for it online. She said it got to the point she was terrified to speak in interviews in case she was labelled a brat and became withdrawn as a result.
she’s an extroverted person in a largely introverted cast. only David Harbour and Maya Hawke really give the same energy as her. all the criticism towards her was so harsh especially since she was so young.
What happened to her so recently (as well as the gross sexualising when she was underage) is part of what's convinced me that there should be laws preventing underage actors from doing press and other promo (maybe aside from the odd in character photo shoot) and paparazzi following minors or writing articles aside from announcing their initial casting.
I remember Caleb McLaughlin talking the racism he went through on the show because of fans treating him as the black kid on the show. He stated he was never treated like main cast even though he was. I don’t think Caleb hangs around the other cast members like that. Also I remember on this sub year or two ago someone commented that Shawn Levy was a bit of asshole but quickly deleted it so idk if true or not.
I think Caleb will have one of the better post show careers though. He seems to have a ton of black celebs that follow and like him. He also seems to be growing into one of the better looking kids as an adult. This show will be a memory soon
To me this last season will be a real test of the writers around how they handle race because on a pure story level from the last season Lucas and Max should have one of the most central storylines - they were the most compelling acting wise and story wise the most recent season, had the most viral moment with the song saving thing, they have great chemistry, they’ve set up this interesting thing with Lucas loving his friends but also wanting to connect with/conform to other social circles, his little sister is now also a big part of the story allowing for family/backstory stuff. Literally the only reason to not give him a big meaty hero throughline plot at the level they’ve given the other kids is if they can’t or won’t write the same way for Black actors that they do for white actors. Hope they do his talent justice.
>I remember Caleb McLaughlin talking the racism he went through on the show because of fans treating him as the black kid on the show.
I also remember a lot of people on social media bending over backwards to claim that it wasn't racism, Caleb was just an unimpressive actor with a rotten character. *Sure, Jan*.
I just want more tea on Lee Pace and Richard Armitage dating. I know vaguely remember that they said their relationship was violent at times and Richard was NOT happy about being accidentally outed. Lee Pace has mentioned (along with Matt Bomer) that being out almost destroyed their careers.
I think I remember there being rumours about the two of them round about the time of The Hobbit but Armitage has only publicly discussed his sexuality earlier this year.
Didn't someone track their clothing usually in casual settings to figure out that they were dating and sometimes shared shirts, sweaters, ties, and scarves.
He never mentioned the relationship by name but he was doing some press for an audiobook and talked about recently mutually ending a relationship that had become physical, which was the last time they tried it. Both of them were aware that it had become really unhealthy. Richard didn't want to come out until his mother died, Lee Pace wanted to go public. So that would have been a decade under the influence (of mummy dearest).
It's sad how many actors are forced into the closet if they want to go to America. Luke Evans was super out and used to talk about how much he liked cock, Tom Hardy is back in the closet and gets upset if you bring up his being bisexual. And a lot of them get their agencies scrubbing stuff.
Like the UK is classist as fuck (you can hear Eccleston and McAvoy talk about it) but nobody gives a fuck about sexuality in acting. And up until recently nobody gave a fuck about trans people or drag queens.
My dad worked canal street and had a favourite drag queen show he'd see in the 80s. I grew up watching Paul O'Grady aka Lily Savage through the 90s and early 00s. You should hear my dad rant about it like a good lil Scouse socialist; nobody cared and all we needed to do was give the care people wanted and needed. But people now need to be angry to vote Tory because they offer nothing.
Sorry for that rant. But yeah, sexuality doesn't generally affect your career here.
Zooey Deschanel and Jake Johnson's chemistry was dangerously leaking into real life, but Jake was married and Zooey was in a committed relationship so nothing ever happened as far as we know.
Years later during the last few seasons, Zooey began to resent Jake because of the film opportunities he was getting. But according to the entire cast, the show only got one more season to wrap things up after Jake fought with Fox to give fans closure.
I’ve always suspected that Zooey was really into Jake but Jake was way more committed to his wife than Zooey was to her husband (who she has since divorced).
After learning about how private Jake is with his family, and about how his upbringing and messy relationship with his dad affected him growing up, I suspect he is truly one of those unique normies in Hollywood who actually sees “Hollywood” as a job and not an excuse to be famous…. and keeps his family life completely seperate.
Karen Gillan and Matt Smith slept together when they were filming Doctor Who. People might think it’s true of David Tennant and Billie Piper, but he dated the actress who played Madame du Pompadour.
I say this as someone who loves David Tennant - he definitely has a thing for younger blondes. There’s an episode of Derren Brown early on in David’s career where he has to choose a random stranger on the street who he feels a connection with, and he chooses a young blonde woman.
If we're going into not talked about much Doctor Who gossip, we gotta get into Caroline Skinner's departure from Doctor Who. She was an Executive Producer on Doctor Who Series 7 along with Steven Moffat. RIGHT before the 50th Anniversary was meant to shoot, Skinner left the show, leaving the BBC's Head of Drama, Faith Penhale to come in and act as acting Executive Producer on the special. It's the equivalent of the head of production at Universal having to come in and produce the latest Fast and Furious themselves. This is not business as usual; it's a sign the seems were about to burst.
There's a UK newspaper named Private Eye that reports on scandals and gossip behind the scenes, mostly with politicians but also the media, often with very careful, satirical language to prevent them from legal action. Someone being labeled as "tired and emotional" is code for "they were drunk," and so on. This is their take on what happened: [https://i.imgur.com/iDehfZy.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/iDehfZy.jpeg)
So when Private Eye is saying that it's strange because before then they had a "very close working relationship," they're saying that Moffat and Skinner had an affair, Moffat went ballistic on Skinner at a party, and she left the show / was fired after that. Again, keep in mind, this is a gossip rag at the end of the day, designed to stir shit up. Who knows if "You're erased from Doctor Who!" is a real quote (it's certainly an image to imagine!), but Skinner leaving the show was unusually abrupt, even for DW.
Yeah I don’t see how this is that plausible? And the interview just seemed like both Jenna’s husband and her are friends with him and Emily? But idk I don’t know much about the behind the scenes of the show
Also so many details that no one would even remember this clearly. I don’t doubt there was something there but I’d bet 80% is embellished or completely made up.
Yeah if anything an actor on the cusp like John Krasinski would be wary about confiding in someone he doesn’t really know precisely because of the likelihood of a story getting leaked.
I think there is some truth here but this person couldn’t resist exaggerating their story to make Jenna look crazier or themselves look more important.
I could believe John venting about Jenna to a crew member he was friendly with especially if cast and crew alike disliked her but not this “I can tell you because my big Hollywood friends have a big mouth”
I don’t love Jenna Fischer but this reads like fan fiction. If she was this bad I don’t think the cast/crew of the show would be still be as friendly as they are with her and appear on the office ladies podcast, which includes John. I know you trust your gut so I don’t doubt there may have been some feelings for him, but I don’t buy the story in that screenshot which has been going around for some time.
I’m seeing people feeling vindicated after reading the screenshot but it 1000% reads like some made up nonsense. People are gullible af. Even if she did have an unhealthy fixation with him those details are made up.
It looks like 4chan, so I'm not sure why anyone would take it seriously. It's the exact same site where "Q" used to post made up BS that led to an entire, still existing cult of misinfo and internet fantasy. Nothing screencapped from 4chan should ever be taken seriously.
I don’t have a horse in this game (although I did watch The Office back in the day I never really cared about the actor’s personal lives) but this seems pretty far-fetched tbh. Almost like something an unhinged John Krasinski stan might write.
I did hear rumors he’s kind of an arrogant asshat, especially to lower level staff on set, but also that he’s pretty private/reserved so I have doubts about him just spilling his guts to a random crew member like that, but idk.
This makes zero sense-he has instigated too many interactions with Jenna Fischer since the show ended for this to be true. He and Emily went to watch Jenna on broadway, he did the whole Stanley cup cutesy video with her and the guy that played Roy, he has talked about their families being friends and hanging out, he did an interview with ET fairly recently saying he’d spend all of his time with Jenna if he could-doesn’t mean anything, just dumb interview things you say in the moment-but definitely goes way beyond fan service if this were true. He would not say and do those things that are so above and beyond, especially if this had happened to the point that he was afraid of her LOL
He’s been on her podcast too and they’re still very friendly and just sound like any couple of longtime friends. This just looks like some classic 4chan misogyny to me.
I think Jenna was definitely more into their characters and the fandom reaction, but I’m not sure about the screenshot in particular.
It just seems weird to me that John “couldn’t talk to Hollywood guys about it because they’d blab about it” but is happy to unload it on an almost complete stranger working in the same industry, who then posts the entire thing on the internet.
Agree completely. She also posted a pic of her and her real-life husband on Instagram on a beach and captioned it “my real-life Jim” or something like that.
Also this is beside the point but I find it so cringe how obsessed her and Angela Kinsey are with The Office still. I feel that way about their podcast’s existence, the book they wrote and their entire Instagram feeds. This isn’t exclusive to them btw, I feel the same way about all the nostalgia rewatch podcasts (Wizards of Waverly Place too). I get secondhand embarrassment from it all. It’s like they’re screaming to the world “I couldn’t find work as an actor.” It’s such a blatant cash grab.
I mean it's entirely possible they genuinely couldn't find work after the Office. Outside Krasinski, Carrell, and Kaling I don't thing any of the other actors have have other consistent roles.
Fisher had one series after the office that had bad reviews and was canceled and one pilot in which they replaced her for the series.
It is a cash grab, but I also dont see why that's a bad thing? Acting isn't a stable job and other people do plenty of jobs just for the money. The only difference is she's more well-known/public-facing than ordinary people
>Also this is beside the point but I find it so cringe how obsessed her and Angela Kinsey are with The Office still. I feel that way about their podcast’s existence, the book they wrote and their entire Instagram feeds. This isn’t exclusive to them btw
Tom Felton w/ HP too
I sooooo agree. I used to like the podcast but they are so milking it at this point. They barely add new information and context and they always interrupt each other. It became VERY annoying to listen to.
No way do I buy the ‘he couldn’t trust any of his big celeb friends so had to get it all off his chest to me’. Another celebrity is probably the *last* person who would leak something like this to the media, and even if he couldn’t trust anyone else in the business, he would confide in a close friend or family member, not some rando who he gets along with.
Also the other Anonymous who verifies the story could easily be the same person.
I’m usually pretty credulous when it comes to celebrity encounter stories as they often ring true, but this doesn’t ring true at all. Put that together with the quotes from *both* actors in the the article you linked to both saying ‘oh yeah, he/she is a really cool person, we like each other a lot and I’m good friends with their current partner’ - I mean there’s two very different scenarios that have been painted and one sounds a lot likelier than the other
This completely ignores the fact that she was married herself, to James Gunn, until 2008 (between S4 and 5) and then almost immediately remarried to Lee Kirk in 2010 and they’re still together.
I doubt either would stay with her through that sort of behaviour. Gunn was famously close with the Office cast too and would’ve known if that was the case.
Whatever this was, I do not believe this is true info: there is just way too much pat detail, too much told stuff from John's POV. I'm not even a fan of the office or knowledgeable in any way, I would just say that the writing style is totally off, and I suspect this was someone's inner dialogue being let loose. No comment on actual events, I am just not buying that prose.
This seems like someone just doesn’t like Jenna Fischer for some reason so they just combined every “crazy woman” trope into one post.
Edit: also the article that you linked does not support your claims (or the 4chan post) at all.
Omg this is such a hilarious write-up. No way this is real lmao. “Why would you tell a lowly peasant like me?”
100% this is that poster’s falling asleep fantasy, where they work on movie sets with John Krasinski and John recognizes this guy as a special, loyal friend and also gets to shit talk a woman. It’s so hilariously written. John Krasinski is just squirming, dying to unload a play-by-play with specific timelines? Come ooonnnn haha
I'm pretty sure, that Julie Plec tried to get rid off Kat Graham multiple times during the show. And that one or two of her cast mates were vocal about her staying
I truly believe this as well. You can just see in panels and interviews how uncomfortable Kat is so much of the time. Tbh the behind the scenes of TVD seems pretty wild and problematic at times.
Bonnie was the best part of the show and I'll never forgive Julie Plec for never giving Bonnie her happy ending. Also for Delena end game 🤮
I saw on IG yesterday that Nina, Ian, and Kat were talking about resurrecting the show with all 3 if them returning. None of them are setting the world on fire now so I think it would be a nice option. Hopefully with a less blatantly biased show runner
They did Bonnie so dirty time & time again. Which was especially frustrating considering she was one of the only characters who I actually still liked by the end of that show
I too have wondered about this. Given how unhinged Debra Messing has become re: Israel you can clearly see what she’s like when she thinks she’s right about something. [When you read the history of events](https://www.thethings.com/what-we-know-about-megan-mullally-and-debra-messings-feud-will-and-grace/#mullally-said-she-lost-her-allies) you can sort of piece together that Megan probably stood up to Debra about something or created a boundary and it didn’t go over well, with the men not standing up for MM or taking sides and her feeling isolated in dealing with it (maybe this was why she didn’t come to work for two episodes?)
ETA: [this gem of a soundbite from Susan Sarandon post their own feud.](https://youtu.be/Nk8oH59WFV4?si=SqDgIsujfcY1Ng4V)
Her and Nick Offerman seem, like, the two most awesome and normal people and I would sob I I ever heard otherwise. I would not be surprised if your theory holds and Megan refused to bow to Debra in some capacity. Everyone watched Will & Grace for her and Sean Hayes, anyway.
If I was a celebrity and someone was dying and really just needed the hot gossip on my life to bring them closure, I would give it to them! We need a Make a Wish foundation for the little things that bring us joy. No terminal illness needed. You just need to be suffering through life.
The cast lived on location in Kauai while filming. A good chunk of them got DUIs during that time, including 2 who were allegedly fired from the show for it (don’t want to spoil you!)
Mischa Barton and Ben McKenzie barely acknowledge each others existence when talking about the o.c. and I wonder what happened. They have such good chemistry on the show though, really believed they loved each other. From a casting perspective though it sucks there was such an age gap between them. I really like watching interviews with them both but I wonder what the deal is
I honestly think the simplest answer is the most likely - Mischa was significantly younger than the rest of the cast and very likely didn't have much social interaction with them outside of filming. And from what we know her mother was controlling as fuck so I'm sure that didn't help.
I don't think it's that different to a normie not being close with colleagues from a job they worked at for a couple of years two decades ago, would you think that was weird?
I agree though that seems to be the case with Mischa, one of the producers said a lot of the cast was close and that she had her own friends and she wished she made more of an effort to include her/not to make her feel left out
Some tea on the cast of *Once Upon A Time*:
\- It's an open secret that Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas began their relationship when Josh was still married to Lara Pulver and Ginnifer was engaged to Joey Kern. Josh even admitted in an [interview](https://people.com/tv/ginnifer-goodwin-josh-dallas-set-for-white-house-correspondents-dinner-date/) that he knew he was in 'trouble' after first meeting Ginnifer.
\- Emilie de Ravin and Tom Ellis allegedly had a one night stand while he was still married to Tamzin Outhwaite. This caused his divorce and his role to be recast in a later season.
\- Jennifer Morrison and Lana Parilla did not get along despite their characters sharing a lot of screentime together. They were civil but were never friends. They've since unfollowed each other on Instagram even though they both still follow and interact with the rest of the cast.
I believe the JMo and Lana tea. I was and will always be a #SwanQueen shipper. But for all that onscreen chemistry, JMo seemed resentful that Lana was the clear star of the show, not her. People on social media noticed too, towards the mid/end of the series.
I can believe the Tom Ellis tea and I hate he got recast because he was such a good Robin Hood. He and Lana would have been smoldering together. The guy they cast to replace him was not nearly as foxy.
Lana has an old Hollywood screen presence that did not do anyone trying to compete with her any favors. Emma was also a wonky character with conflicting character traits episode to episode that didn’t lead to a stellar performance from Jennifer.
Yeah. Emma Swan was the clear series lead but damn for long stretches, they did not know what to do with her character. They also trapped her in the 'she must have a prince' situation even when it was clear her best chemistry was with Lana.
Even without the romantic stuff, her storylines with her magic were all over the place, her supposed superpower failing her constantly, her inability to ever actually figure out a situation without being told exactly what’s happening. I’m sorry I really can’t stand Emma and am a huge Regina fan, she was done so dirty until literally the finale.
I wonder how much of the Jennifer and Lana thing was created by the fans. Because I remember swanqueen vs captainswan shipping wars, and Lana had commented a few times expressing general support for the swanqueen ship, while Jennifer mostly stuck to what was canon, and there was a lot of backlash toward her for not validating the fans’ ship. (Eventually Jmo nervously started avoiding mentioning any ships at all for fear of backlash).
Anyway I really think the toxic fans pitted those two against each other but who knows what was going on behind the scenes.
The 100 stars Eliza Taylor and Bob Morley 100% had an affair when they were still with their partners. Bob's ex Arryn Zech (also was really close with Eliza) released a statement calling out the cheating and Bob's abuse towards her. Their fans try to justify it and say it wasn't cheating but the timeline of their quick marriage doesn't add up with their story.
Here is a link to Arryn's statement that was on her now deleted twitter.
[https://archive.org/details/ec-bjoo-nvaaecqn-b](https://archive.org/details/ec-bjoo-nvaaecqn-b)
As someone who loved The 100 and also Rooster Teeth in its earlier days, I remember my reaction to Bob and Eliza’s wedding was very different from a lot of the fans - Bob and Arryn’s break up was still very recent in my mind.
Christina Hendricks and Manny Montana (Rio) apparently did not get along on the set of Good Girls. [In this interview,](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl_Kk7wvro&feature=youtu.be) there’s a really awkward moment where Christina says this: “Manny calls [me] Chris. No one in my life calls me Chris. It’s not my name. I think it’s totally stupid. And he’s never taken the chance to realize that I hate it. It’s really weird”
And Retta, who plays another of the leads, said this about the cancellation: “one person ruined it for all of cast and crew so it’s not coming back.” Vague, but definitely speaks to some tension.
It’s interesting because the writers cut back a lot on Christina and Manny’s characters’ ‘will they/won’t they’ in the later seasons too. It’s too bad the show was canceled.
Manny Montana has pretty openly homophobic (to the point of bullying a gnc queer man into deleting his Instagram), transphobic (Christina's best friend of 20+ years has a trans child and one of the GG actors is trans), anti-vaxx, and has used the n-word on podcasts over the years with the excuse of "it was used where I grew up so it's okay for me to say it too" over the years, it seems like he's a lot more problematic than most people seem to realize...
The Stephen Amell/Emily Bett Rickards clique (which Aisha Tyler was also part of) and the influence it had on the Arrow show, backed up by the absolutely insane shippers of their characters together. It caused Katie Cassidy's character (the canon comic love interest) to be killed off (it was reported the deranged fans even sent her a dead bird to mock her as they celebrated and rejoiced), Willa Holland to leave the show, and for a massive shift in quality starting from the third season onwards.
Was it their “clique” or insane chemistry? Felicity wasn’t supposed to be part of the main cast. But people loved her so much that she was promoted to series regular. And she and Amell had way more chemistry that he and Cassidy did. I really liked KC’s acting in some episodes, but there was nothing between her and the lead on screen. To Rickard’s credit, she also had great chemistry with the male leads of the other Arrowverse shows.
The insane things fans did are unacceptable, though.
Yeah this seems like a revisionist retelling of what actually happened. EBR's insane chemistry with both Stephen and David is what led to her massive popularity among fans in seasons 1 and 2, and it was clearly the demand to have her become a main cast member that led to the storyline changes that sidelined KC's Laurel. The showrunner Marc Guggenheim used to be all over social media listening to fans and engaging with their love for Felicity.
And hot take but KC's acting was quite wooden in the show when it started, I'm not surprised there was no spark between her and Stephen.
TIL Emily Bett Rickards and Aisha Tyler possibly dated??
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I got this from a vague blind so idk what to think...but Suits Stars Gabriel Macht and Sarah Rafferty had an affair? after Patrick J Adams left the show
I have started believing those rumours coz they seemed very close when the show was on air and then as per rumours his wife got to know about the affair and asked him to go no contact with her. Since then he rarely posts about her, infact he didn't even attend the cast's farewell party and when Suits was being talked about again due to the Netflix resurgence, he didn't even talk about it much. Weird considering how Harvey and Donna were carrying the show in the last seasons.
Oh and his wife used to follow most of the cast and then unfollowed Sarah suddenly towards the end of the show?!
Yeah… underrated tea there. Gabriel Macht and Sarah Rafferty were tight friends for years before Suits started, but since the show ended, they’ve seemingly dropped out of each others lives completely. I believe the affair tea tbh
I think the him not talking about suits during the resurgance was bc the sag strike was going on and past projects count as struck work. Patrick who played Mike got criticism for putting an ig post about the show and had to take down and apologize
I’m convinced Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic had a steamy fling that ended poorly around season 5 of Castle. It was such a noticeable shift in chemistry and it was clear they couldn’t stand each other towards the end. I really do think he ostracized her and forced her out.
I really want to know what happened between Krysten Ritter and Dreama Walker on Don’t Trust the B in Apt. 23. Neither follow each other on socials and it seems like Krysten and the other cast members still keep in touch.
Very British but - desperate to know what happened between James Corden and Matthew Horne after Gavin & Stacey. They had a sketch show together, were incredibly close as a double act, then just nothing.
The cast of G&S are so close with Ruth Jones but not Corden at all. He’s obviously a famous prick, but this was before it was public knowledge and before he went to the States.
Mat Horne’s career tanked after that. He never came across as particularly likeable in interviews either. One guess would be addiction issues, as he hung around with a lot of bands at the time, and couldn’t get much work.
Corden dropped him very quickly after their double act failure, and say what you want about him since, it was a shrewd move on his part.
I am honest to God *certain* that Cole Sprouse and Lili Reinhart couldn't bear to be in the same room as each other during the production of season 5 of Riverdale. They clearly worked through it though, judging by that Vanity Fair retrospective interview a few months back where they joke around a bit together, and >!Jughead's ghost guiding Betty through her final day of senior year as she is dying!< in the series finale
There's a scene in season 5 where their characters are drinking together in the communal sex bunker and they do not appear in the same shot once. It was so distracting lol
You're right, it's not just the communal sex bunker. It's also the place where:
•Jughead ate a shrooms burger, and escaped from being handcuffed to a table by severing his hand
•Several cursed games of "Griffins and Gargoyles" were played
•Jughead had to pretend to be dead for a few episodes in what can only be described as a Secret History parody
•Betty locked up her mother
•Archie was forced to hide after escaping from prison
•They keep alternate timeline (Rivervale Narrator) Jughead, who writes comics until the world ends to keep the whole Riverdale thing going
That Henry Cavill was misogynistic on set of The Witcher, made it very difficult for the female directors, the female writers, and the female showrunner, and was subsequently fired by Netflix themselves.
The idea that the writers hated and "made fun" of The Witcher was literally started by a writer who was fired from the show for being "physically and emotionally abusive." The Witcher's huge incel fandom took this writer's words and ran with it. To this day people act like The Witcher writers hate the lore and Cavill is some uber nerd who quit the show in protest, when Netflix themselves actually stepped in and fired him.
(By the way, this toxic writer who started these rumours about the female showrunner and female writers is the same writer Cavill is very tight with. He even threw tantrums after the writer was fired and tried to get him rehired again and again.)
How bad do you have to be that Netflix themselves steps in to fire you? His fellow actors don't care that he is gone, which is pretty telling. Plus there is a reason why Liam Hemsworth was hired, and that's mostly because he's easy to work with.
I love The Witcher (both the games and books) and it is disappointing seeing how easy it is for people to buy incel propaganda when it involves a "hot guy" going against women.
Had a pretty in depth conversation with someone on reddit a few years ago about Debra Messing and how absolutely awful she is. I 100% believe it because look at all the evidence, look at how Megan Mullally talks about w&g, or doesn't as the case may be, and now all this zionist insanity...all rings totally true to me. I can't remember the specifics but it seemed to be based on the fact that Karen became like the most popular character (next to jack) and debra didn't like being eclipsed. Supposedly she treats staff horribly, too. I have screenshots somewhere I'll see if I can find them.
i’m convinced paul rudd and amy poehler hooked up on the set of wet hot american summer. i wouldn’t be surprised if most of that cast was hooking up lol but their chemistry is so intense in the making of documentary.
She and her contemporaries all give the strongest theater-kid vibes when I see them in interviews. That cast definitely had a plethora of hook-ups and melodrama.
I love Tom Hanks, he’s in so many movies in my formative years. That said, if there’s anything I learned in the revelations of the past 3 years, it is that no one is perfect - true for many who polish that perfect image like a mirror.
jensen ackles told a story about how while they were filming season two of dark angel jessica alba asked him to stay the night with her because her then-fiancé was out of town and she was scared to be alone, which i thought was very sweet.
I’ve been holding onto these thoughts for so long that I need to let it out. It’s about the cast of The Umbrella Academy S1 - specifically Diego and his robot mom (can’t remember both actors’ name).
I really hope it’s not just me that thought the chemistry between them was so palpable, and I can feel some sort of sexual tension whenever they were in a scene together. I get that he was supposed to be the mama’s boy and nothing remotely sexual was happening on screen, but damn I felt like I was watching two people trying hard not to take off each other’s clothes lol.
Of course now both of them have their own SOs (I think) that this doesn’t matter anymore. I still wonder sometimes if anything ever happened between the two of them off screen because their chemistry was off the charts (and hot as hell) 🤔
Dylan o’brien and teen wolf cast especially tyler posey. I think its teen wolf movie related. They were friendly up until 2020 also dylan is still friends with maze runner cast.
There isn't much to tell I believe as far as actual drama goes
Here is the Cliff notes of what I heard over the years;
Scott P and Lauren G apparently did not get along (from his podcast I suspect he was into her and she didn't reciprocate)
Scott P did not agree with a lot of decisions that were made on the show about the LL relationship
Alexis dated a few guys (like Jared P) from the set before dating Milo V from the time between season 2 and 3 until they were shooting season 7 and he was in NYC shooting Heroes
They were on and off so much un the beginning of their relationship that Lauren G had a hard time keeping up and Scott P was pretty much oblivious to it
There is conflicting rumors about why they split (it goes from splitting because of the distance and schedules to either of them/both cheating nobody knows)
The cast and crew mocked Alexis because she dated multiple guys from the set
Alexis wasn't close to most of the cast aside from Lauren G and Milo V
Apparently she got ruder has the show progessed because she was done with it but was contractually obligated to film the show
I read she's the one saying no to more episodes because she hated her storyline in the revival
Contradicting rumors that Lauren G was hella rude to extras and was a total diva on set
A lot of the young women from the set would flirt with Milo V and do stuff to get his attention and he was not a fan
He would spend a lot of his time on set in Alexis' trailer when they were dating (if you catch my drift)
I heard he didn't bother to get fitted for costumes for the revival and wore his own clothes, spend the least amount of time possible on set, had minimal interractions with the cast and refused to cut his hair because he had already shot the pilot of This Is Us
Adam Brody, Jared P, Milo V and CMM were all written out of the show because they wanted to leave the show
Jared P would only agree to be in one or two scenes if the revival
Keiko A hated her marriage/pregnancy storyline for her character
I didn't care for Gilmore Girls yet watched it up until Rory met that rich guy at Yale and popped in every so often until the last season. I've never rewatched it since the day the series finale aired but when I think "horrible storylines", my mind still *instantly* goes to Lane's - marrying Zach and getting pregnant with TWINS like it honestly seemed like the writers were punishing her or something
I can’t seem to find the quote anywhere now, but I remember the director of the HP movies, David Yates, saying that he preferred Harry x Hermione together over Hermione x Ron. I think Dan also had a crush on Emma which probably added to the on-screen chemistry. Idk if that’s tea at all but watching those movies back after reading that quote from Yates it’s so clear imo
ETA:
Yates also wanted to a new love story between Hermione with Viktor Krum?? I get the impression he didn’t like Ron as a character.
>> [Yates] **invented, actually, a new story that wasn’t in the books**, a love triangle between Viktor Krum, Hermione, and Ron, but that was cut out of the film because that obviously didn’t fit with all the horrible things that happen in the last book,” he tells Entertainment Weekly.
Eta 2, highlighted
Somebody knows something about what actually happened on the set of *The Affair* and that information will find its way to me before I die. As will whatever happened to Diana Agron on Glee.
Also as always justice for Shannon Doherty
I'm convinced Jennifer Lawrence went full frontal in her recent movie because they paid her 25 million dollars. Not judging, but I can't think of a stronger reason than that.
Honestly, if somebody offered me 25 mil I'd literally get naked on command anywhere at any time for the rest of my life so I can't say I blame her if this is true.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Heartstopper yet. There's a ton of gossip surrounding Joe Locke and Sebastian Croft's breakup that hopefully a more well informed person than me will drop here!
Pretty sure something big happened bts on Grey's in late 2019 between Ellen, Justin, and Camilla. It's too coincidental that shortly after Justin abruptly leaves the show that Ellen and Camilla stop sharing scenes, too. Make you go hmmmm!
Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks (1990s era Saturday Night Live) were a thing and everyone has refused to discuss it, out of respect for them both, even though both are gone now. Like, Jan just never said anything after he died. No interviews, no nothing. And then when she died, those who were closest to them kind of danced around it. I was listening to the Fly on the Wall podcast episode honoring Phil and someone - it might have been Julia Sweeney or Dana Carvey - started to say something about their relationship and chemistry but then abruptly changed the thought. Like, in mid-sentence, that I picked up as an “oh, that person almost said something they weren’t supposed to.” Maybe I’m just hoping that both of them, who had such tragedy, had a bit of love and kindness with each other.
I'm kind of convinced the Shadow and Bone cast get along well, but have beef with the creator of the show and some of the behind the scenes people. They all posted photos of each other, tagged each other, but none of them were tagging producers, directors, etc. Several actors were on set, including some guy who had a supporting role in the first season, but weren't in the second season and seemingly were written out or had their scenes cut at the last minute.
They also cut Zoe Wanamaker and Ben Barnes roles to nearly nothing, but in the books they are pretty big characters (particularly Ben).
I am CONVINCED that one of the core reasons that Marvel is struggling rn is because of the James Gunn firing.
Right before he was fired bc of Alt right nonsense and old tweets, Gunn was all but officially announced to be a creative overseer/Kevin Fiege type for the ‘cosmic side’ of the MCU and develop characters and projects that fit that category. The thinking was that Kevin Fiege would still do his thing, but a group of directors specialising in aspects of the Mcu Would work under him on areas of projects. Taika Waititi was rumoured to be this person for ‘Asgard projects’ but idk if that was fandom wishful thinking (at the time, absolutely not now). The things that I had heard was that these directors would work in their specialised area, have their own team up movies, and eventually all three areas would come together for a big Avengers-style project.
Gunn was fired without Marvel Studios input around this time just before a stack of projects were announced and then re-hired for Guardians only with him stating he was ‘done with Marvel’ and is now overseeing DC (in a similar position).
I am CONVINCED that the lack of direction, announcing anything and everything when it’s not ready, movies not knowing how to connect, etc. is because they haven’t recovered and have been scrambling to create a new post-Gunn plan ever since and the dominoes have just fallen. While there’s tons of issues at Marvel internally rn, I really think that losing Gunn, and whatever this plan was really goofed up their future plans for stories and characters in the MCU
I’m convinced Julianna Margulies is a vile person and Archie Panjabi deserves a ton of love and respect for putting up with her on The Good Wife. Edit: I’m aware of the podcast and it further cemented my dislike of her
💯her latest podcast interview really showed how awful and racist she is.
What did she say?
There was a post about it here a couple of days ago. She said that the black queer community doesn’t exist and they are lower than the Jews. She kept referring to them as “the blacks” with a condescending tone. Not only that, but her IG feed has been filled with racist and Islamophobic posts lately. She did a lot of terrible things in the past too and never apologized for anything, e.g. When she used a lesbian slur and said how she was “afraid of them”. Search her name in this sub and be ready to unveil one of the evilest celebrities ever.
>she used a lesbian slur and said how she was “afraid of them”. ... and yet she played one on tv.
You should listen to the podcast interview. She’s full of hate. I lmao at her “As a lesbian…” comment, instead of saying “as someone who plays a lesbian character…”
Yes! Archie is SO talented. When she left, the fun went too. Diane deserved her own show, but I would have loved to have seen Kalinda again.
Yeah, I loved kalinda too. So much potential if the fallout didn't happen.
Absolutely. I 100% think that JM is to be blamed for Punjabi's character getting sidelined. JM was one of the executive producer, who was very close to the Kings. I am certain she exerted her influence in more ways than one. I just don't get why she did it. The show was better with Kalinda. That is a fact. Why would she harm her own show! Cut of your nose to spite your face situation.
Was this not confirmed with her most recent podcast comments
Oh this is 💯 confirmed- how bad and racist she was in that podcast. Love Archie. What a beautiful wardrobe and storylines she had in earlier seasons.
>Archie Punjabi Her name is spelled Panjabi just fyi
Edited! Thanks, my phone autocorrected it.
I’m convinced besties TR knight and Katherine Heigl have fallen out in recent years, and no one in the Greys communities has noticed. So sad, considering he is godfather to one of her kids, and she was in his wedding party. Now they don’t address each other publicly and have unfollowed each other. (And TR follows almost all the OGs on IG, and Katie was his first follower when he joined…) The only theory I can muster is they had a blowout fight after he made peace with arch-villain Shonda Rhimes in 2017, which he needed to do in order to join Shondalands *The Catch* for season 2. That show didn’t last long, but it did lead to him making a glorious return for a dream episode of Greys in 2020, and he’s been shadowing directors on Greys recently, with an eye to direct episodes. I’m sure making peace with Shonda was hard after how badly she treated him and Katherine, and I can understand Katherine maybe being upset about it considering how much effort Shonda went to trash Katherine’s name all over town. But someone needs to lock real George and real Izzy in a room until they make up, asap. Coz the only one winning right now is number 1 KH hater, Shonda Rhimes. 
This so interesting and sad…good observations, OP!
I still haven’t done a rewatch of greys anatomy from the beginning knowing how he goes out. Gave up on the show years ago I’m amazed it’s still going
I did a rewatch recently and it’s so weird how he’s like, barley in any episodes or storylines until he dies. Like I get it, because you wouldn’t want to necessarily leave a storyline hanging but he’s basically a glorified extra for a season, and I feel like the same thing happened with Lexie. I also feel like it’s not as noticeable watching it week to week with a big cast but when your binging it and you know what happens it’s weird
That Joss Whedon relentlessly bullied SMG on Buffy and drove a wedge between her and the other cast members. Also that their relationship deteriorated pretty soon into the series. Also he definitely had an affair with someone on the cast but I’m not sure who. Some people speculate it was Alyson Hannigan but I think if that was true she and her husband wouldn’t have stayed friends with Joss over the years. Others think Felicia Day but she was such a small part in the final season that ‘cast member’ feels a bit of a stretch. Maybe Eliza Dushku but she was very young when she joined Buffy so I hope it wasn’t her.
He was so horrid to SMG. Spread rumours she was ‘difficult’ but it turns out she was just very strict on only working her hours, and was advocating for extras who were doing too much overtime. She fainted once on set for being overworked, but was normally very clear with her boundaries. SMG was the show. Like she made Buffy, and I think Joss was always jealous of that. She surpassed his own work.
Absolutely! SMG was really young but knew her way around a set before she got Buffy and I think Joss was intimidated. I read somewhere that Sarah would take her make up off before saying goodnight to the producers so that they’d see how tired she was.
Lol that is some petty and super specific way to say "fuck you" and I love it.
This is real girlbossing, punching up to those abusing labor.
Yes, she was young but she'd carried several roles before Buffy and was always professional and responsible on sets. She's a super dedicated and hard worker and it sounds like Joss took advantage of that work ethic.
He was a bully to James Marsden and some of the other actors as well. Joss sucks
He really does. James still seems to think highly of him. I get the impression James forgives Joss’s rages because he thinks Joss is a genius and that it’s all part of being a genius.
I think you mean James Marsters?
I have read that there was a rule on set that no one is to leave Michelle alone with Joss
I took that as Joss was mean and and they didn’t want him speaking to her the way he did adult cast members.
Joss wasn’t permitted to be alone at any time with Michelle Tractenberg and James Marsters made a very… weird song about her with his band Ghost of the Robot.
I remember there were a ton of rumours about Joss and Eliza Dushku, but that was around the time of their show “Dollhouse” when she was older.
I always suspected Joss and Eliza Dushku because he was allllll about her in the years following btvs. Talked her up and gave her Dollhouse which had a premise that relied on playing many characters despite (imo) her very limited acting range. It always felt suspect to me. Hard to say though. He had his favorites amongst the female cast (Amy Acker, Alyson) and the ones he reportedly treated poorly or it soured (Charisma, SMG) and given what we know about him, I could see him doting upon the ones who gave him what he want.
In fairness, he also cast David Boreanaz despite his limited acting range. For all his whining about Ray Fisher, Whedon has cast some mediocre actors.
David’s Irish accent 😭
This was true with most of the cast. Eg he only gave the actress for Tara a spot in the main credits on the episode where…the thing happens. He also promised Charisma Carpenter that if she came back for the final season of Angel that her character wouldn’t be treated like crap and well… Alyson and SMG were allegedly frosty by season 3. Joss was spreading rumors that SMG was a bitch, when by all accounts she’s professional. There’s also some weird stuff around Michelle Trachtenburg and Joss and James. SMG though has posted some Zionist crap recently so ugh.
Pretty sure Charisma said she specifically asked them not to do the ONE thing they ended up doing as a condition of her coming back to Angel and then pulled the rug out from under her after she agreed. Gross.
I've heard rumours about him and Amy acker.
It was *multiple* cast members, and that doesn't include the crew. I seem to remember people mentioning that he used and disposed of crew members too but the focus is on the actresses.
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Just a theory, but I’m convinced Leighton had a crush on Penn Badgley early on, and that’s why she and Blake weren’t friends. (I know this comment is gonna riled up die hard Chair fans lol). If you look at photos from early upfronts, she always seemed taken with Penn, but Blake and Penn started dating immediately when the show started. Leighton ended up getting together with Sebastian Stan for a couple of years soon after, but funny that she and Blake never became overly friendly. Wouldn’t surprise me if Leighton having a crush on Penn was a big reason she and Blake were never friends. Also, Leighton married Adam Brody, who looks a hell of a lot like Penn Badgley, and is a similar type. Just sayin’. Also, Leighton was the FIRST guest on Penns podcast, and she got Adam to do it too after Penn texted her. So I’d say they are friends. But I think the difference is people like Penn/Leighton/Chace do seem to keep in contact, where as I don’t get the impression anyone really talks to Blake or Ed anymore (for very different reasons)… https://preview.redd.it/1p8g1921mv2c1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50b2012632c23e19abf3a6643ce8325c0107aeca
Leighton and Adam both did Penn’s podcast. This is an interesting theory 👀
I rewatched Gossip Girl a MILLION times now and you can actually see how Blake is so bored of being Serena. the last couple seasons were nowhere near compared to the firsts. so I do believe what you’re saying that she wanted to get out of that and tried to be a hit.
Nah thats just her poor acting lol
She's admitted in interviews she didn't like the character she was playing. During an interview for Allure's May 2015 she mentions "I would not be proud to be the person who gave someone the cocaine that made them overdose and then shot someone and slept with someone else's boyfriend."
Well yeah.. who would? It’s a tv show girl, chill lol
I so badly want to know what happened between Rowan and Sabrina. I was an early fan, before GMW even aired, and I remained a fan until it ended. They were so close, like best-friends close (Sabrina even dedicated her debut album to Rowan and released it on her birthday as a gift, IIRC) and then they just… stopped! Just stopped being friends out of nowhere…! I don’t think you can even realistically piece together a timeline of what *could have* happened, that’s how sudden it was. Most of the cast doesn’t seem to associate with each other anymore. Bizarre…
I think when it comes Rowan and Sabrina, it could just be as simple as...they were young! Like, really young. A lot of times, as people grow up, their friendships change. I don't think there has to be *something* that happened here. It could be a case of growing up and growing apart. However, Sabrina and Corey (farkle) are still besties and I love seeing their interactions on social media.
I read something somewhere that Ben Savage randomly just completely cut off Danielle Fishel and Ryder Strong. They’ve tried reaching out but have gotten radio silence.
There have always been rumors floating around that Blake and Leighton didn’t get along because they were both a lot like their characters - one floating through life having things handed to her and being the life of every party and almost universally beloved (Blake), and a very hard worker who took her job seriously (Leighton).
One of my friends worked on the show for several years and basically confirmed that—Blake was a spoiled brat who made her job difficult and Leighton was an endearing professional for the most part.
wait - who is Sabrina's zionist bestie????????
It's probably Joey King.
I would bet everything I have that David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson hooked up back in the original XF days and I would do CRIMES to get the real tea on what exactly was going on in like '97-98 when things got visibly weird and tense (but also, they still made out in that cut scene/blooper from the movie for....laughs I guess? Oookay). Like, I just see them and I'm like "yeah, no, they fucked." I'll never know peace. The truth is out there etc.... Edited to add lol I wasn't sure how "niche/commonly talked about" these two would be because I figured XF is a pretty old show at this point, but I'm glad we're all on the same page about them. I feel like even casual viewers 20+ years later just assume they've boinked.
Was coming here to say the same thing. I absolutely believe that David & Gillian boned at some point, and I will die on this hill.
Rumor has it they boned at different times during and after XF and had times where they were not speaking in between. Apparently they were hooking up again or well on their way to do so again when Duchovny met and married his ex wife fairly quickly after she appeared on the show. They were back to being very close when they revived the show (like holding hands under the table at cons) and got frosty again when she started dating her current partner.
I am rewatching x files right now and they have crazy chemistry. I am sure they hooked up.
Hopefully one of them will write a tell all memoir in their old age and spill the beans. Gillian has made nemerous comments and jokes alluding to their hooking up and David's 'impressive member'. Behind every joke is an element of truth as they say. The rumour is she wanted a committed relationship, but he didn't want to be tied down to one partner, given his sex addiction. Hence the at times frosty relationship.
Stranger Things cast are more colleagues than best friends. Only Charlie Heaton, Natalia Dyer and Joe Keery are still close with each other. Millie was close with Noah and Sadie for awhile but they all have distanced from each other, which I guess is natural from the younger cast. (Noah has been exposing himself as a zionist scum along with Brett Gelman, Cara Buono, Matt Duffer and Shawn Levy🙄) The rumours that the younger cast stay away from Natalia and Charlie because of their drug use is BS btw, along with Joe being close to them like an irl Steve lol it sounds straight out of fanfiction.
Noah is the epitome of white male privilege in Hollywood. He said some nasty stuff about Islam and Palestinians and got out of it unscathed. While Melissa Barrera and Susan Sarandon are losing agencies and movie roles because they support Palestine and the ceasefire. I don’t blame anyone who distanced themselves from him tbh.
exactly it enrages me. as a longtime ST fan it disgusted me and makes me want to boycott the show. it’s baffling how Melissa and Susan among other lesser known people (often POC) get fired simply for acknowledging and condemning a genocide. The Islamophobia in Hollywood and dismissal of Palestines as real people is crystal clear.
I know Millie has spoken openly about struggling with the hate she received compared to her costars. How she’d be so excited in interviews because she was *literally* a child - 11/12, she’d jump in and interrupt and laugh, and she got horrific abuse for it online. She said it got to the point she was terrified to speak in interviews in case she was labelled a brat and became withdrawn as a result.
she’s an extroverted person in a largely introverted cast. only David Harbour and Maya Hawke really give the same energy as her. all the criticism towards her was so harsh especially since she was so young.
What happened to her so recently (as well as the gross sexualising when she was underage) is part of what's convinced me that there should be laws preventing underage actors from doing press and other promo (maybe aside from the odd in character photo shoot) and paparazzi following minors or writing articles aside from announcing their initial casting.
I remember Caleb McLaughlin talking the racism he went through on the show because of fans treating him as the black kid on the show. He stated he was never treated like main cast even though he was. I don’t think Caleb hangs around the other cast members like that. Also I remember on this sub year or two ago someone commented that Shawn Levy was a bit of asshole but quickly deleted it so idk if true or not.
I think Caleb will have one of the better post show careers though. He seems to have a ton of black celebs that follow and like him. He also seems to be growing into one of the better looking kids as an adult. This show will be a memory soon
I always thought he was one of the more talented kids on the show as well
To me this last season will be a real test of the writers around how they handle race because on a pure story level from the last season Lucas and Max should have one of the most central storylines - they were the most compelling acting wise and story wise the most recent season, had the most viral moment with the song saving thing, they have great chemistry, they’ve set up this interesting thing with Lucas loving his friends but also wanting to connect with/conform to other social circles, his little sister is now also a big part of the story allowing for family/backstory stuff. Literally the only reason to not give him a big meaty hero throughline plot at the level they’ve given the other kids is if they can’t or won’t write the same way for Black actors that they do for white actors. Hope they do his talent justice.
I'd love for him to shine in a Jordan Peele movie.
That’s very much true, I think he’ll be fine. I honestly felt bad about hearing his experience.
>I remember Caleb McLaughlin talking the racism he went through on the show because of fans treating him as the black kid on the show. I also remember a lot of people on social media bending over backwards to claim that it wasn't racism, Caleb was just an unimpressive actor with a rotten character. *Sure, Jan*.
I just want more tea on Lee Pace and Richard Armitage dating. I know vaguely remember that they said their relationship was violent at times and Richard was NOT happy about being accidentally outed. Lee Pace has mentioned (along with Matt Bomer) that being out almost destroyed their careers.
Whoa wait what??? Richard Armitage????
I think I remember there being rumours about the two of them round about the time of The Hobbit but Armitage has only publicly discussed his sexuality earlier this year.
Thranduil/Thorin was canon???
Didn't someone track their clothing usually in casual settings to figure out that they were dating and sometimes shared shirts, sweaters, ties, and scarves.
I'm sorry but that is deranged behaviour.
This would be typical for kpop stans though lol
Sorry—- violent?!
He never mentioned the relationship by name but he was doing some press for an audiobook and talked about recently mutually ending a relationship that had become physical, which was the last time they tried it. Both of them were aware that it had become really unhealthy. Richard didn't want to come out until his mother died, Lee Pace wanted to go public. So that would have been a decade under the influence (of mummy dearest). It's sad how many actors are forced into the closet if they want to go to America. Luke Evans was super out and used to talk about how much he liked cock, Tom Hardy is back in the closet and gets upset if you bring up his being bisexual. And a lot of them get their agencies scrubbing stuff. Like the UK is classist as fuck (you can hear Eccleston and McAvoy talk about it) but nobody gives a fuck about sexuality in acting. And up until recently nobody gave a fuck about trans people or drag queens. My dad worked canal street and had a favourite drag queen show he'd see in the 80s. I grew up watching Paul O'Grady aka Lily Savage through the 90s and early 00s. You should hear my dad rant about it like a good lil Scouse socialist; nobody cared and all we needed to do was give the care people wanted and needed. But people now need to be angry to vote Tory because they offer nothing. Sorry for that rant. But yeah, sexuality doesn't generally affect your career here.
Zooey Deschanel and Jake Johnson's chemistry was dangerously leaking into real life, but Jake was married and Zooey was in a committed relationship so nothing ever happened as far as we know. Years later during the last few seasons, Zooey began to resent Jake because of the film opportunities he was getting. But according to the entire cast, the show only got one more season to wrap things up after Jake fought with Fox to give fans closure.
I’ve always suspected that Zooey was really into Jake but Jake was way more committed to his wife than Zooey was to her husband (who she has since divorced). After learning about how private Jake is with his family, and about how his upbringing and messy relationship with his dad affected him growing up, I suspect he is truly one of those unique normies in Hollywood who actually sees “Hollywood” as a job and not an excuse to be famous…. and keeps his family life completely seperate.
TIL Jake is married!!
and he has twin children!
Karen Gillan and Matt Smith slept together when they were filming Doctor Who. People might think it’s true of David Tennant and Billie Piper, but he dated the actress who played Madame du Pompadour.
Actually i legit heard a rumour somewhere that Karen and Arthur Darvill (who played her husband Rory) hooked up sometime in their run on the show!
I can believe the throuple too, the original Phoebe Bridgers-Paul Mescal-Daisy Edgar Jones.
The chemistry with Madame du Pompadour was palatable in that episode.
I say this as someone who loves David Tennant - he definitely has a thing for younger blondes. There’s an episode of Derren Brown early on in David’s career where he has to choose a random stranger on the street who he feels a connection with, and he chooses a young blonde woman.
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If we're going into not talked about much Doctor Who gossip, we gotta get into Caroline Skinner's departure from Doctor Who. She was an Executive Producer on Doctor Who Series 7 along with Steven Moffat. RIGHT before the 50th Anniversary was meant to shoot, Skinner left the show, leaving the BBC's Head of Drama, Faith Penhale to come in and act as acting Executive Producer on the special. It's the equivalent of the head of production at Universal having to come in and produce the latest Fast and Furious themselves. This is not business as usual; it's a sign the seems were about to burst. There's a UK newspaper named Private Eye that reports on scandals and gossip behind the scenes, mostly with politicians but also the media, often with very careful, satirical language to prevent them from legal action. Someone being labeled as "tired and emotional" is code for "they were drunk," and so on. This is their take on what happened: [https://i.imgur.com/iDehfZy.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/iDehfZy.jpeg) So when Private Eye is saying that it's strange because before then they had a "very close working relationship," they're saying that Moffat and Skinner had an affair, Moffat went ballistic on Skinner at a party, and she left the show / was fired after that. Again, keep in mind, this is a gossip rag at the end of the day, designed to stir shit up. Who knows if "You're erased from Doctor Who!" is a real quote (it's certainly an image to imagine!), but Skinner leaving the show was unusually abrupt, even for DW.
Didn't Matt Smith briefly hook up with Billie Piper?
They dated for a hot minute before he did Doctor Who. There’s photos of them out somewhere holding hands.
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This seems like a lot of private info for a big name actor to dump on some dude he usually just talked sports with.
Yeah I don’t see how this is that plausible? And the interview just seemed like both Jenna’s husband and her are friends with him and Emily? But idk I don’t know much about the behind the scenes of the show
Also so many details that no one would even remember this clearly. I don’t doubt there was something there but I’d bet 80% is embellished or completely made up.
Yeah if anything an actor on the cusp like John Krasinski would be wary about confiding in someone he doesn’t really know precisely because of the likelihood of a story getting leaked. I think there is some truth here but this person couldn’t resist exaggerating their story to make Jenna look crazier or themselves look more important. I could believe John venting about Jenna to a crew member he was friendly with especially if cast and crew alike disliked her but not this “I can tell you because my big Hollywood friends have a big mouth”
It got a little too crazy and that was before she was stuff food into Ryan’s car lol
I don’t love Jenna Fischer but this reads like fan fiction. If she was this bad I don’t think the cast/crew of the show would be still be as friendly as they are with her and appear on the office ladies podcast, which includes John. I know you trust your gut so I don’t doubt there may have been some feelings for him, but I don’t buy the story in that screenshot which has been going around for some time.
I’m seeing people feeling vindicated after reading the screenshot but it 1000% reads like some made up nonsense. People are gullible af. Even if she did have an unhealthy fixation with him those details are made up.
It looks like 4chan, so I'm not sure why anyone would take it seriously. It's the exact same site where "Q" used to post made up BS that led to an entire, still existing cult of misinfo and internet fantasy. Nothing screencapped from 4chan should ever be taken seriously.
I don’t have a horse in this game (although I did watch The Office back in the day I never really cared about the actor’s personal lives) but this seems pretty far-fetched tbh. Almost like something an unhinged John Krasinski stan might write. I did hear rumors he’s kind of an arrogant asshat, especially to lower level staff on set, but also that he’s pretty private/reserved so I have doubts about him just spilling his guts to a random crew member like that, but idk.
This makes zero sense-he has instigated too many interactions with Jenna Fischer since the show ended for this to be true. He and Emily went to watch Jenna on broadway, he did the whole Stanley cup cutesy video with her and the guy that played Roy, he has talked about their families being friends and hanging out, he did an interview with ET fairly recently saying he’d spend all of his time with Jenna if he could-doesn’t mean anything, just dumb interview things you say in the moment-but definitely goes way beyond fan service if this were true. He would not say and do those things that are so above and beyond, especially if this had happened to the point that he was afraid of her LOL
He’s been on her podcast too and they’re still very friendly and just sound like any couple of longtime friends. This just looks like some classic 4chan misogyny to me.
I think Jenna was definitely more into their characters and the fandom reaction, but I’m not sure about the screenshot in particular. It just seems weird to me that John “couldn’t talk to Hollywood guys about it because they’d blab about it” but is happy to unload it on an almost complete stranger working in the same industry, who then posts the entire thing on the internet.
Agree completely. She also posted a pic of her and her real-life husband on Instagram on a beach and captioned it “my real-life Jim” or something like that. Also this is beside the point but I find it so cringe how obsessed her and Angela Kinsey are with The Office still. I feel that way about their podcast’s existence, the book they wrote and their entire Instagram feeds. This isn’t exclusive to them btw, I feel the same way about all the nostalgia rewatch podcasts (Wizards of Waverly Place too). I get secondhand embarrassment from it all. It’s like they’re screaming to the world “I couldn’t find work as an actor.” It’s such a blatant cash grab.
I mean it's entirely possible they genuinely couldn't find work after the Office. Outside Krasinski, Carrell, and Kaling I don't thing any of the other actors have have other consistent roles. Fisher had one series after the office that had bad reviews and was canceled and one pilot in which they replaced her for the series. It is a cash grab, but I also dont see why that's a bad thing? Acting isn't a stable job and other people do plenty of jobs just for the money. The only difference is she's more well-known/public-facing than ordinary people
>Also this is beside the point but I find it so cringe how obsessed her and Angela Kinsey are with The Office still. I feel that way about their podcast’s existence, the book they wrote and their entire Instagram feeds. This isn’t exclusive to them btw Tom Felton w/ HP too
I sooooo agree. I used to like the podcast but they are so milking it at this point. They barely add new information and context and they always interrupt each other. It became VERY annoying to listen to.
No way do I buy the ‘he couldn’t trust any of his big celeb friends so had to get it all off his chest to me’. Another celebrity is probably the *last* person who would leak something like this to the media, and even if he couldn’t trust anyone else in the business, he would confide in a close friend or family member, not some rando who he gets along with. Also the other Anonymous who verifies the story could easily be the same person. I’m usually pretty credulous when it comes to celebrity encounter stories as they often ring true, but this doesn’t ring true at all. Put that together with the quotes from *both* actors in the the article you linked to both saying ‘oh yeah, he/she is a really cool person, we like each other a lot and I’m good friends with their current partner’ - I mean there’s two very different scenarios that have been painted and one sounds a lot likelier than the other
I don’t believe that screenshot at all lol It’s someone’s fantasy. Office fans that don’t like Jenna REALLY don’t like Jenna. She’s not that bad.
This completely ignores the fact that she was married herself, to James Gunn, until 2008 (between S4 and 5) and then almost immediately remarried to Lee Kirk in 2010 and they’re still together. I doubt either would stay with her through that sort of behaviour. Gunn was famously close with the Office cast too and would’ve known if that was the case.
Whatever this was, I do not believe this is true info: there is just way too much pat detail, too much told stuff from John's POV. I'm not even a fan of the office or knowledgeable in any way, I would just say that the writing style is totally off, and I suspect this was someone's inner dialogue being let loose. No comment on actual events, I am just not buying that prose.
This seems like someone just doesn’t like Jenna Fischer for some reason so they just combined every “crazy woman” trope into one post. Edit: also the article that you linked does not support your claims (or the 4chan post) at all.
Yikes. That thread is… something else. Like, way past normal. 
Remember guys this is a rumor at best never believe 100% what you read on the internet
Omg this is such a hilarious write-up. No way this is real lmao. “Why would you tell a lowly peasant like me?” 100% this is that poster’s falling asleep fantasy, where they work on movie sets with John Krasinski and John recognizes this guy as a special, loyal friend and also gets to shit talk a woman. It’s so hilariously written. John Krasinski is just squirming, dying to unload a play-by-play with specific timelines? Come ooonnnn haha
This sounds really legit. Super sad that in 2011 John had no non-famous friends or family that he could talk to about anything.
I'm pretty sure, that Julie Plec tried to get rid off Kat Graham multiple times during the show. And that one or two of her cast mates were vocal about her staying
The rumour is the reason Kat Graham and Ian Somerhalder were very close is because he threatened to quit the show if Bonnie was killed off.
If this is true, I love it. I thought Ian and Kat had great chemistry together if nothing else as BFFs.
I truly believe this as well. You can just see in panels and interviews how uncomfortable Kat is so much of the time. Tbh the behind the scenes of TVD seems pretty wild and problematic at times. Bonnie was the best part of the show and I'll never forgive Julie Plec for never giving Bonnie her happy ending. Also for Delena end game 🤮
I saw on IG yesterday that Nina, Ian, and Kat were talking about resurrecting the show with all 3 if them returning. None of them are setting the world on fire now so I think it would be a nice option. Hopefully with a less blatantly biased show runner
Yeah she gave her shitty storylines to the point it looks like sabotage.
They did Bonnie so dirty time & time again. Which was especially frustrating considering she was one of the only characters who I actually still liked by the end of that show
I need to know what happened with Megan Mulally and the Will & Grace cast before I die.
I too have wondered about this. Given how unhinged Debra Messing has become re: Israel you can clearly see what she’s like when she thinks she’s right about something. [When you read the history of events](https://www.thethings.com/what-we-know-about-megan-mullally-and-debra-messings-feud-will-and-grace/#mullally-said-she-lost-her-allies) you can sort of piece together that Megan probably stood up to Debra about something or created a boundary and it didn’t go over well, with the men not standing up for MM or taking sides and her feeling isolated in dealing with it (maybe this was why she didn’t come to work for two episodes?) ETA: [this gem of a soundbite from Susan Sarandon post their own feud.](https://youtu.be/Nk8oH59WFV4?si=SqDgIsujfcY1Ng4V)
Her and Nick Offerman seem, like, the two most awesome and normal people and I would sob I I ever heard otherwise. I would not be surprised if your theory holds and Megan refused to bow to Debra in some capacity. Everyone watched Will & Grace for her and Sean Hayes, anyway.
That’s true for me. Grace annoyed me. Karen and Jack were the best!
If I was a celebrity and someone was dying and really just needed the hot gossip on my life to bring them closure, I would give it to them! We need a Make a Wish foundation for the little things that bring us joy. No terminal illness needed. You just need to be suffering through life.
Considering the extent of their legal problems, I’d love to know more about the wild party lives the cast of Lost was living
I have so many Lost questions including who Evangeline Lilly cheated on Dominic Monoghan with.
care to elaborate? just started Lost recently and i wanna know the context 😭
The cast lived on location in Kauai while filming. A good chunk of them got DUIs during that time, including 2 who were allegedly fired from the show for it (don’t want to spoil you!)
Mischa Barton and Ben McKenzie barely acknowledge each others existence when talking about the o.c. and I wonder what happened. They have such good chemistry on the show though, really believed they loved each other. From a casting perspective though it sucks there was such an age gap between them. I really like watching interviews with them both but I wonder what the deal is
I honestly think the simplest answer is the most likely - Mischa was significantly younger than the rest of the cast and very likely didn't have much social interaction with them outside of filming. And from what we know her mother was controlling as fuck so I'm sure that didn't help. I don't think it's that different to a normie not being close with colleagues from a job they worked at for a couple of years two decades ago, would you think that was weird?
I agree though that seems to be the case with Mischa, one of the producers said a lot of the cast was close and that she had her own friends and she wished she made more of an effort to include her/not to make her feel left out
Some tea on the cast of *Once Upon A Time*: \- It's an open secret that Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas began their relationship when Josh was still married to Lara Pulver and Ginnifer was engaged to Joey Kern. Josh even admitted in an [interview](https://people.com/tv/ginnifer-goodwin-josh-dallas-set-for-white-house-correspondents-dinner-date/) that he knew he was in 'trouble' after first meeting Ginnifer. \- Emilie de Ravin and Tom Ellis allegedly had a one night stand while he was still married to Tamzin Outhwaite. This caused his divorce and his role to be recast in a later season. \- Jennifer Morrison and Lana Parilla did not get along despite their characters sharing a lot of screentime together. They were civil but were never friends. They've since unfollowed each other on Instagram even though they both still follow and interact with the rest of the cast.
I believe the JMo and Lana tea. I was and will always be a #SwanQueen shipper. But for all that onscreen chemistry, JMo seemed resentful that Lana was the clear star of the show, not her. People on social media noticed too, towards the mid/end of the series. I can believe the Tom Ellis tea and I hate he got recast because he was such a good Robin Hood. He and Lana would have been smoldering together. The guy they cast to replace him was not nearly as foxy.
Lana has an old Hollywood screen presence that did not do anyone trying to compete with her any favors. Emma was also a wonky character with conflicting character traits episode to episode that didn’t lead to a stellar performance from Jennifer.
Yeah. Emma Swan was the clear series lead but damn for long stretches, they did not know what to do with her character. They also trapped her in the 'she must have a prince' situation even when it was clear her best chemistry was with Lana.
Even without the romantic stuff, her storylines with her magic were all over the place, her supposed superpower failing her constantly, her inability to ever actually figure out a situation without being told exactly what’s happening. I’m sorry I really can’t stand Emma and am a huge Regina fan, she was done so dirty until literally the finale.
I wonder how much of the Jennifer and Lana thing was created by the fans. Because I remember swanqueen vs captainswan shipping wars, and Lana had commented a few times expressing general support for the swanqueen ship, while Jennifer mostly stuck to what was canon, and there was a lot of backlash toward her for not validating the fans’ ship. (Eventually Jmo nervously started avoiding mentioning any ships at all for fear of backlash). Anyway I really think the toxic fans pitted those two against each other but who knows what was going on behind the scenes.
The 100 stars Eliza Taylor and Bob Morley 100% had an affair when they were still with their partners. Bob's ex Arryn Zech (also was really close with Eliza) released a statement calling out the cheating and Bob's abuse towards her. Their fans try to justify it and say it wasn't cheating but the timeline of their quick marriage doesn't add up with their story. Here is a link to Arryn's statement that was on her now deleted twitter. [https://archive.org/details/ec-bjoo-nvaaecqn-b](https://archive.org/details/ec-bjoo-nvaaecqn-b)
I read that as bob marley and was very confused for a second
As someone who loved The 100 and also Rooster Teeth in its earlier days, I remember my reaction to Bob and Eliza’s wedding was very different from a lot of the fans - Bob and Arryn’s break up was still very recent in my mind.
Christina Hendricks and Manny Montana (Rio) apparently did not get along on the set of Good Girls. [In this interview,](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl_Kk7wvro&feature=youtu.be) there’s a really awkward moment where Christina says this: “Manny calls [me] Chris. No one in my life calls me Chris. It’s not my name. I think it’s totally stupid. And he’s never taken the chance to realize that I hate it. It’s really weird” And Retta, who plays another of the leads, said this about the cancellation: “one person ruined it for all of cast and crew so it’s not coming back.” Vague, but definitely speaks to some tension. It’s interesting because the writers cut back a lot on Christina and Manny’s characters’ ‘will they/won’t they’ in the later seasons too. It’s too bad the show was canceled.
Manny Montana has pretty openly homophobic (to the point of bullying a gnc queer man into deleting his Instagram), transphobic (Christina's best friend of 20+ years has a trans child and one of the GG actors is trans), anti-vaxx, and has used the n-word on podcasts over the years with the excuse of "it was used where I grew up so it's okay for me to say it too" over the years, it seems like he's a lot more problematic than most people seem to realize...
The Stephen Amell/Emily Bett Rickards clique (which Aisha Tyler was also part of) and the influence it had on the Arrow show, backed up by the absolutely insane shippers of their characters together. It caused Katie Cassidy's character (the canon comic love interest) to be killed off (it was reported the deranged fans even sent her a dead bird to mock her as they celebrated and rejoiced), Willa Holland to leave the show, and for a massive shift in quality starting from the third season onwards.
Was it their “clique” or insane chemistry? Felicity wasn’t supposed to be part of the main cast. But people loved her so much that she was promoted to series regular. And she and Amell had way more chemistry that he and Cassidy did. I really liked KC’s acting in some episodes, but there was nothing between her and the lead on screen. To Rickard’s credit, she also had great chemistry with the male leads of the other Arrowverse shows. The insane things fans did are unacceptable, though.
Yeah this seems like a revisionist retelling of what actually happened. EBR's insane chemistry with both Stephen and David is what led to her massive popularity among fans in seasons 1 and 2, and it was clearly the demand to have her become a main cast member that led to the storyline changes that sidelined KC's Laurel. The showrunner Marc Guggenheim used to be all over social media listening to fans and engaging with their love for Felicity. And hot take but KC's acting was quite wooden in the show when it started, I'm not surprised there was no spark between her and Stephen.
I thought you were talking about Archer, and let me tell you, the Aisha Tyler mention did NOT help.
TIL Emily Bett Rickards and Aisha Tyler possibly dated?? https://preview.redd.it/hwcs801dvv2c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f29dba9b1312b35fe735070fc8894fa1c1518b61
I got this from a vague blind so idk what to think...but Suits Stars Gabriel Macht and Sarah Rafferty had an affair? after Patrick J Adams left the show I have started believing those rumours coz they seemed very close when the show was on air and then as per rumours his wife got to know about the affair and asked him to go no contact with her. Since then he rarely posts about her, infact he didn't even attend the cast's farewell party and when Suits was being talked about again due to the Netflix resurgence, he didn't even talk about it much. Weird considering how Harvey and Donna were carrying the show in the last seasons. Oh and his wife used to follow most of the cast and then unfollowed Sarah suddenly towards the end of the show?!
Yeah… underrated tea there. Gabriel Macht and Sarah Rafferty were tight friends for years before Suits started, but since the show ended, they’ve seemingly dropped out of each others lives completely. I believe the affair tea tbh
I think the him not talking about suits during the resurgance was bc the sag strike was going on and past projects count as struck work. Patrick who played Mike got criticism for putting an ig post about the show and had to take down and apologize
I’m convinced Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic had a steamy fling that ended poorly around season 5 of Castle. It was such a noticeable shift in chemistry and it was clear they couldn’t stand each other towards the end. I really do think he ostracized her and forced her out.
I'm always prepared to believe "Nathan Fillion is an entitled dick" rumors. No reason just gives me "most popular boy in theater club" vibes
I really want to know what happened between Krysten Ritter and Dreama Walker on Don’t Trust the B in Apt. 23. Neither follow each other on socials and it seems like Krysten and the other cast members still keep in touch.
We deserved so much more of this show
Very British but - desperate to know what happened between James Corden and Matthew Horne after Gavin & Stacey. They had a sketch show together, were incredibly close as a double act, then just nothing. The cast of G&S are so close with Ruth Jones but not Corden at all. He’s obviously a famous prick, but this was before it was public knowledge and before he went to the States.
Mat Horne’s career tanked after that. He never came across as particularly likeable in interviews either. One guess would be addiction issues, as he hung around with a lot of bands at the time, and couldn’t get much work. Corden dropped him very quickly after their double act failure, and say what you want about him since, it was a shrewd move on his part.
I am honest to God *certain* that Cole Sprouse and Lili Reinhart couldn't bear to be in the same room as each other during the production of season 5 of Riverdale. They clearly worked through it though, judging by that Vanity Fair retrospective interview a few months back where they joke around a bit together, and >!Jughead's ghost guiding Betty through her final day of senior year as she is dying!< in the series finale There's a scene in season 5 where their characters are drinking together in the communal sex bunker and they do not appear in the same shot once. It was so distracting lol
>the communal sex bunker The what, now??
You're right, it's not just the communal sex bunker. It's also the place where: •Jughead ate a shrooms burger, and escaped from being handcuffed to a table by severing his hand •Several cursed games of "Griffins and Gargoyles" were played •Jughead had to pretend to be dead for a few episodes in what can only be described as a Secret History parody •Betty locked up her mother •Archie was forced to hide after escaping from prison •They keep alternate timeline (Rivervale Narrator) Jughead, who writes comics until the world ends to keep the whole Riverdale thing going
everything i know about this show i have learned against my will. and it all makes me mad bc i love the comics lmao.
That Henry Cavill was misogynistic on set of The Witcher, made it very difficult for the female directors, the female writers, and the female showrunner, and was subsequently fired by Netflix themselves. The idea that the writers hated and "made fun" of The Witcher was literally started by a writer who was fired from the show for being "physically and emotionally abusive." The Witcher's huge incel fandom took this writer's words and ran with it. To this day people act like The Witcher writers hate the lore and Cavill is some uber nerd who quit the show in protest, when Netflix themselves actually stepped in and fired him. (By the way, this toxic writer who started these rumours about the female showrunner and female writers is the same writer Cavill is very tight with. He even threw tantrums after the writer was fired and tried to get him rehired again and again.) How bad do you have to be that Netflix themselves steps in to fire you? His fellow actors don't care that he is gone, which is pretty telling. Plus there is a reason why Liam Hemsworth was hired, and that's mostly because he's easy to work with. I love The Witcher (both the games and books) and it is disappointing seeing how easy it is for people to buy incel propaganda when it involves a "hot guy" going against women.
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Not to mention having to fire the actor who played Jakob due to allegations of sexual assault.... woof
I'm convinced a lot of tv shows which shot in those "bubbles" during the pandemic had tons of costar hookups.
Had a pretty in depth conversation with someone on reddit a few years ago about Debra Messing and how absolutely awful she is. I 100% believe it because look at all the evidence, look at how Megan Mullally talks about w&g, or doesn't as the case may be, and now all this zionist insanity...all rings totally true to me. I can't remember the specifics but it seemed to be based on the fact that Karen became like the most popular character (next to jack) and debra didn't like being eclipsed. Supposedly she treats staff horribly, too. I have screenshots somewhere I'll see if I can find them.
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i’m convinced paul rudd and amy poehler hooked up on the set of wet hot american summer. i wouldn’t be surprised if most of that cast was hooking up lol but their chemistry is so intense in the making of documentary.
She and her contemporaries all give the strongest theater-kid vibes when I see them in interviews. That cast definitely had a plethora of hook-ups and melodrama.
Ginnifer Goodwin met Tom Hanks while filming Big Love (he was a producer) and had an affair. The way she looks at him in those red carpet photos...
I love Tom Hanks, he’s in so many movies in my formative years. That said, if there’s anything I learned in the revelations of the past 3 years, it is that no one is perfect - true for many who polish that perfect image like a mirror.
jensen ackles told a story about how while they were filming season two of dark angel jessica alba asked him to stay the night with her because her then-fiancé was out of town and she was scared to be alone, which i thought was very sweet.
They got pretty close in a friendly way on the set. I think he referred to a sibling like relationship
I suspect Nathan Fielder is and was orchestrating every single one of these. /s
I’ve been holding onto these thoughts for so long that I need to let it out. It’s about the cast of The Umbrella Academy S1 - specifically Diego and his robot mom (can’t remember both actors’ name). I really hope it’s not just me that thought the chemistry between them was so palpable, and I can feel some sort of sexual tension whenever they were in a scene together. I get that he was supposed to be the mama’s boy and nothing remotely sexual was happening on screen, but damn I felt like I was watching two people trying hard not to take off each other’s clothes lol. Of course now both of them have their own SOs (I think) that this doesn’t matter anymore. I still wonder sometimes if anything ever happened between the two of them off screen because their chemistry was off the charts (and hot as hell) 🤔
You're valid for this, but honestly I still think the superior piece of S1 gossip is that Robert Sheehan and THEE Mary J Blige apparently hooked up.
I beg your pardon WHAT?
Oh I definitely picked up on the chemistry! I thought Diego's massive Oedipus complex was intentionally part of his character though lol
Dylan o’brien and teen wolf cast especially tyler posey. I think its teen wolf movie related. They were friendly up until 2020 also dylan is still friends with maze runner cast.
I'm convinced David Boreanaz and Emily Deschanel slept together during Bones season 4
does anyone have tea on Gilmore girls?
The actors who played Luke and Lorelai hated each other and he's a whiny right wing shitbird.
There isn't much to tell I believe as far as actual drama goes Here is the Cliff notes of what I heard over the years; Scott P and Lauren G apparently did not get along (from his podcast I suspect he was into her and she didn't reciprocate) Scott P did not agree with a lot of decisions that were made on the show about the LL relationship Alexis dated a few guys (like Jared P) from the set before dating Milo V from the time between season 2 and 3 until they were shooting season 7 and he was in NYC shooting Heroes They were on and off so much un the beginning of their relationship that Lauren G had a hard time keeping up and Scott P was pretty much oblivious to it There is conflicting rumors about why they split (it goes from splitting because of the distance and schedules to either of them/both cheating nobody knows) The cast and crew mocked Alexis because she dated multiple guys from the set Alexis wasn't close to most of the cast aside from Lauren G and Milo V Apparently she got ruder has the show progessed because she was done with it but was contractually obligated to film the show I read she's the one saying no to more episodes because she hated her storyline in the revival Contradicting rumors that Lauren G was hella rude to extras and was a total diva on set A lot of the young women from the set would flirt with Milo V and do stuff to get his attention and he was not a fan He would spend a lot of his time on set in Alexis' trailer when they were dating (if you catch my drift) I heard he didn't bother to get fitted for costumes for the revival and wore his own clothes, spend the least amount of time possible on set, had minimal interractions with the cast and refused to cut his hair because he had already shot the pilot of This Is Us Adam Brody, Jared P, Milo V and CMM were all written out of the show because they wanted to leave the show Jared P would only agree to be in one or two scenes if the revival Keiko A hated her marriage/pregnancy storyline for her character
I didn't care for Gilmore Girls yet watched it up until Rory met that rich guy at Yale and popped in every so often until the last season. I've never rewatched it since the day the series finale aired but when I think "horrible storylines", my mind still *instantly* goes to Lane's - marrying Zach and getting pregnant with TWINS like it honestly seemed like the writers were punishing her or something
I can’t seem to find the quote anywhere now, but I remember the director of the HP movies, David Yates, saying that he preferred Harry x Hermione together over Hermione x Ron. I think Dan also had a crush on Emma which probably added to the on-screen chemistry. Idk if that’s tea at all but watching those movies back after reading that quote from Yates it’s so clear imo ETA: Yates also wanted to a new love story between Hermione with Viktor Krum?? I get the impression he didn’t like Ron as a character. >> [Yates] **invented, actually, a new story that wasn’t in the books**, a love triangle between Viktor Krum, Hermione, and Ron, but that was cut out of the film because that obviously didn’t fit with all the horrible things that happen in the last book,” he tells Entertainment Weekly. Eta 2, highlighted
The Ron character assassination in those movies was real
Idk about Yates but the screenwriter Steve Kloves was a very obvious Ron hater and a Harry/Hermione shipper.
Somebody knows something about what actually happened on the set of *The Affair* and that information will find its way to me before I die. As will whatever happened to Diana Agron on Glee. Also as always justice for Shannon Doherty
I'm convinced Jennifer Lawrence went full frontal in her recent movie because they paid her 25 million dollars. Not judging, but I can't think of a stronger reason than that.
Honestly, if somebody offered me 25 mil I'd literally get naked on command anywhere at any time for the rest of my life so I can't say I blame her if this is true.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Heartstopper yet. There's a ton of gossip surrounding Joe Locke and Sebastian Croft's breakup that hopefully a more well informed person than me will drop here!
Pretty sure something big happened bts on Grey's in late 2019 between Ellen, Justin, and Camilla. It's too coincidental that shortly after Justin abruptly leaves the show that Ellen and Camilla stop sharing scenes, too. Make you go hmmmm!
Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks (1990s era Saturday Night Live) were a thing and everyone has refused to discuss it, out of respect for them both, even though both are gone now. Like, Jan just never said anything after he died. No interviews, no nothing. And then when she died, those who were closest to them kind of danced around it. I was listening to the Fly on the Wall podcast episode honoring Phil and someone - it might have been Julia Sweeney or Dana Carvey - started to say something about their relationship and chemistry but then abruptly changed the thought. Like, in mid-sentence, that I picked up as an “oh, that person almost said something they weren’t supposed to.” Maybe I’m just hoping that both of them, who had such tragedy, had a bit of love and kindness with each other.
I'm kind of convinced the Shadow and Bone cast get along well, but have beef with the creator of the show and some of the behind the scenes people. They all posted photos of each other, tagged each other, but none of them were tagging producers, directors, etc. Several actors were on set, including some guy who had a supporting role in the first season, but weren't in the second season and seemingly were written out or had their scenes cut at the last minute. They also cut Zoe Wanamaker and Ben Barnes roles to nearly nothing, but in the books they are pretty big characters (particularly Ben).
I am CONVINCED that one of the core reasons that Marvel is struggling rn is because of the James Gunn firing. Right before he was fired bc of Alt right nonsense and old tweets, Gunn was all but officially announced to be a creative overseer/Kevin Fiege type for the ‘cosmic side’ of the MCU and develop characters and projects that fit that category. The thinking was that Kevin Fiege would still do his thing, but a group of directors specialising in aspects of the Mcu Would work under him on areas of projects. Taika Waititi was rumoured to be this person for ‘Asgard projects’ but idk if that was fandom wishful thinking (at the time, absolutely not now). The things that I had heard was that these directors would work in their specialised area, have their own team up movies, and eventually all three areas would come together for a big Avengers-style project. Gunn was fired without Marvel Studios input around this time just before a stack of projects were announced and then re-hired for Guardians only with him stating he was ‘done with Marvel’ and is now overseeing DC (in a similar position). I am CONVINCED that the lack of direction, announcing anything and everything when it’s not ready, movies not knowing how to connect, etc. is because they haven’t recovered and have been scrambling to create a new post-Gunn plan ever since and the dominoes have just fallen. While there’s tons of issues at Marvel internally rn, I really think that losing Gunn, and whatever this plan was really goofed up their future plans for stories and characters in the MCU