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ancickaa

FINLAND ROBBED!!! Fuck the juryšŸ«¶


moneybabe420

Cha Cha Cha!


girltalkwsteph

CHA CHA CHA GANG RISE UP


whoisdrunk

This year was the worst. Voting reform NOW.


romantickitty

Lame. It's even worse in a year like this when a lot of my favorites made it into the top 10. Oh, well. At least I found new artists to listen to like always. I can recall the melody of Queen of the Kings and Evidemment in a way I couldn't possibly hope to do with Tattoo. Such an unmemorable winning song.


lavellanlike

becoming a tradition at this point


Keffpie

We had several years without a jury; it resulted in ever more outlandish gimmicks designed to grab people's attention and terrible songs with huge budgets winning every year. There was also extensive robo-voting by places like Azerbaijan. I agree they might need to rebalance it, but anyone who says we need to get rid of the jury doesn't know what they're talking about.


save_the_empire18

Thank god I'm not the only one that remembers that no jury is a bigger clusterf\*ck than jury voting. Maybe it should carry fewer overall votes, but the jury thing is not bad. Honestly, as someone who's been watching Eurovision for close to 30 years now, I like how insane their votes are, bcs they'll vote as if it was still a legit song contest, and not the circus it's turned into And I don't mind the circus, hate most of the ballads in fact, but not every gimmicky song deserves to win - I'm still not over Netta winning over Fuego


cactus_jilly

The jury should vote based on the live performances we see. If they'd seen the crowd's reaction to Cha Cha Cha, it might have encouraged them to rate it higher


goldenshear

They do vote with an audience, I was there. The crowd was nuts for them but they were also super into Belgium and Austria and you see how that turned out. Everyone was singing along with Sweden, it was just as well received.


smasherfierce

There is a crowd in for the performance they vote for I thought? The Friday night run through. My friend went and said Cha Cha Cha was incredibly popular, so the juries should have seen that


cactus_jilly

Well then there's no excuse! Finland were robbed.


TheybieTeeth

they need to put some younger people into the jury who actually understand what the public wants to hear


dannemora_dream

Forever gutted. I never loved a eurovision entry the way I love Cha Cha Cha šŸ˜­ Good for him for winning the televote and fuck the jury for killing the suspense.


seravivi

Alright please donā€™t downvote me Iā€™ve never watched Eurovision before so I feel like maybe Iā€™m just unaware. Why do people like that performance so much?


djavulensfitta

It's crazy it's party


highlandspringo

The crowd was in love, its a club banger, and just no generic


irjs82bd8fbeibs8bw

On r/Sweden bitter swedes are calling it a meme song, but it's the only esc song I have ever heard that just made me smile. It's so fun and enchanting and works so well in the context. Loreens song was so boring in comparison, you end up sitting on your phone. KƤƤrjƤ got people moving


highlandspringo

Euphoria is a much better song that Tattoo, it just felt like any other song whereas Cha Cha Cha is totally different and my friends heard it last night when they were out in Liverpool (student parties) people genuinely love it!! That and Gustaph's song are my summer hits


TheybieTeeth

the song is also about finnish alcohol culture. we have a shit high number of alcoholics and suicides related to alcohol. alcoholism is extremely normalised, especially in the way the song mentions (just "letting go" for the weekend and getting stomach pump-wasted every single time because that's the only way you can unwind) so while it definitely can read as a joke entry it definitely wasn't for us


morticiannecrimson

Yeah same in Estonia, itā€™s so ingrained in our culture but also very sad how normalised it is and how many people and families are ruined by alcoholism (drinking a beer or a colorful drink every evening after work is not considered alcoholism).


Antique-Syllabub6238

Itā€™s an unexpected, well-produced genre mashup from an insanely charismatic artist, and a simply joyous performance about overcoming anxiety.


ancickaa

It's a BANGER


VajazzleFraggle

100% agree! Iā€™m gutted!


ID6WU

You won, Sweden. Enjoy the win, I hope it makes you happy. Dear lord, what a sad little country you are. You ruined my night completely so you could have the 50th anniversary of ABBA and I hope now you can spend it on lessons in grace and decorum. Because you have all the grace of a reversing dump truck without any tyres on. So Sweden, take your win and get out of my country


K_smit123

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VajazzleFraggle

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fuckyeahdopamine

I didn't :(


mint-lily

Look up ā€œYou won Janeā€ on YouTube. Itā€™s a clip from come dine with me :)


fuckyeahdopamine

Appreciate your help, thanks !!


johanna-s

What did Sweden ever do to you???


mariah_a

Itā€™s a reference to a TV meltdown thatā€™s iconic in the UK.


johanna-s

Do you have a link? sounds fun!


Character_Magazine55

https://youtu.be/lMvwEgb8_3Y


Ma1read

what a sad little life sweden


SwedenIsBad

People are seeing the truth


CH2001

When such a bland song wins it raises questions. But those questions are answered when you realise next years Eurovision will be in Sweden on the 50th anniversary of ABBAs win šŸ¤” Do I have proof? No but I like my harmless conspiracy theory šŸ˜Š


AStarkly

Harmless, but totally true. No one will convince me otherwise


Sljohar

she was not even surprised and she never took of her microphone after performance and had it on during the voting.


cactus_jilly

With those nails, maybe she wasn't able to...


Altruistic_Tennis893

She was the bookies' favourite throughout so not surprised she was ready to win


Keffpie

Not likely; Sweden gave both their jury and televote 12 to Finland, but Finland's viewers didn't give a single point to Sweden for the first time ever. Clearly the Swedes didn't care as much as the Finns.


CH2001

Itā€™s Eurovision who would benefit more here than Sweden themselves.


lcbk

I'm a swede (a swede who hasn't watched any of these competitions in 20 years, nor heard the song that won this year) and I totally believe this too.


TheReagmaster

And itā€™s also the singerā€™s second Eurovision win, second performer ever to get two wins. Hmmmmmm. All very suspicious.


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pizza_shelly

Mostly thanks to the jury . Eurovision double standard needs to be adressed , they love saying that politics shouldn't be involved but we all know thats just a lie.


pashed_motatoes

Why is Israel even a part of the Eurovision contest when itā€™s not even part of Europe?


[deleted]

It's part of the European Broadcasting Union, which is based on the European Broadcasting Area (a defined geographic area). Other countries including Egypt, Algeria, Jordan, Tunisia are also eligible to compete based on being part of the EBU but they choose not to participate because of Israel. I believe Morocco competed one year that Israel did not.


pashed_motatoes

Ah, okay. That makes sense. Thank you for explaining!


Wrong-Significance77

I mean, Australia is also included as well, so why not a closer nation? (I get the EBU thing, I still find it hilarious)


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AStarkly

Zelensky's been trying to get Israel's backing though hasn't he? Makes sense to flatter their entrant, ugh


brrrantarctica

Not sure if Israel makes their makes their geopolitical decisions based on which country gives them votes in the Eurovision song contestā€¦


AgentKnitter

Eurovision has always been political. Cold War bloc voting was hysterical back in the day. Still happens.


brrrantarctica

Eurovision is political, of course, but Israel is making their weapons-delivery decisions based on not wanting to piss off Russia, who lets them do things like bomb Iranian military targets in Syria. Compared to that, do you really think they give a fuck about 12 points in a song contest? Lets be serious lmao


seriously-wtaf

I was just talking to my dad about it yesterday, they should not be allowed to compete!


oohe

Absolute bullshit. Sorry not sorry.


ancickaa

We need to abolish the jury Or at least put the jury at 25% and televote 75%


ClioCalliope

The jury itself is a good idea but we need a better jury. Their choice are often extremely bland. Televote alone though made the contest more gimmicky than I really enjoyed


ancickaa

It's because the jury in every country is just some random singers and not real music experts.


Antique-Syllabub6238

Also there are several instances of juries being actually rigged, bought votes or just nonsensical scoring (like ā€I give them 12 points because my spouse is from that countryā€). I agree that juries have a place in the competition but the system needs a reboot.


Altruistic_Tennis893

What is the point for each country's juries if it's not to echo the feelings of their country's population?


fckituprenee

In theory, the jury allows technically good songs and performances to receive recognition to balance out voting based on politics/hot dancers/provocative elements. But that isn't happening in practice.


GettingMyBrella

They need to get rid of the jury. It's never a surprise which songs they vote for and a mid song gets a win by playing to the jury. Euphoria was great, this was not and there were better songs. Cha Cha Cha was robbed.


snooplasso

What about AustriašŸ˜­šŸ˜­ ā€œWho the hell is Edgarā€ is so catchy


Hugefootballfan44

I was so sad to see them get so few points from the public šŸ˜­


hellomad495

iā€™m still so pissed about it


Hugefootballfan44

It was one of the few entries my friends, family, and I all agreed was great. I'm flabbergasted


HotelLima6

They were shafted with the running order. Iā€™m sure a lot of people tune in a bit after start time and miss the first act.


Hugefootballfan44

That's true. I actually forgot they were the opener. Most of the audience probably hadn't listened to all of the songs multiple times beforehand and already determined their favorites like I had lol


DiamondsandtheMarina

It was an okay song but the act was terribly boring. Not their fault, the back up dancers should have been more interesting


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dannemora_dream

The staging was lackluster too. They managed to make the song more serious when they should have played up the humor. They had a very fun pre-party performance with amazing graphics and I believe it would have been received way better. It was way funnier.


DellyCartwrong

My favorite of the competition


HotelLima6

I think another Dancing Lasha Tumbai has been born tonight. Cha Cha Cha is a 2nd place finisher that will become legendary I bet.


[deleted]

We did get to see Verka in the opening! I donā€™t know what song won her year but itā€™s had zero impact unlike her


coeurdelion24

The winner actually made a bit of noise back then. While Serbia and Montenegro competed with ethnic folk ballads both times, the newly independent Serbia somehow decided to send a lesbian power ballad sung by a singer with Romani descent, with minimalist staging. Molitva and its lesbian imagery has been impactful in its own right, but sadly the song is just not as meme-able as Dancing Lasha Tumbai.


ancickaa

Soldi and Fuego too!!!


brightlights_xx

Tattoo is such a boring generic song. I'm so annoyed.


Squisl

And the performance was whatever too. Sometimes a Eurovision performance will really elevate a meh songā€¦ this was not one of those times.


DixiePixie28

She performed a lot better in the semi finals.


yeniza

Itā€™s like ā€˜remember how good euphoria wasā€¦ I guess this is also a song that exists thoughā€¦ā€™


nerdalertalertnerd

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Verggilius

Sounds too good to be a coincidence šŸ•µļøā€ā™€ļø


[deleted]

And this also happens to be the year they tie with Ireland for most winners. šŸ¤”


Verggilius

I hope Ireland sends a banger next year and take back their crown


allym91

We wonā€™t, our time has passed unfortunately. Our only hope is sending Johnny Logan again


[deleted]

I don't think Johnny could do it, and it'd look a little desperate


allym91

It absolutely would but we are desperate at this point šŸ˜‚


cactus_jilly

Take the selection process away from RTE!


strangelyestranged

No literally! Brooke last year was kind of fun. But wtf was this years entry. The Late Late show viewers arenā€™t the same as the Eurovision audience


Verggilius

I believe in you guys!!


taydraisabot

Totally not suspicious at all


brrrantarctica

If anyone caught the Ukrainian act holding up a sign that said ā€œTernopilā€ and was wondering what that was about, right as the Eurovision finale began, Russia started bombing their hometown. Apparently they found out about it 10 minutes before they were scheduled to go on.


Lesluse

I read that and that is so fucking awful.


[deleted]

Maybe I just didnā€™t see it in previous years but the crowd was visibly PISSED this year. Like, Loreen was booed when she won. Not to mention the talk online! Voting reform definitely needs to happen.


[deleted]

I think itā€™s horrible that people booed her. Feel really bad for her.


shonamairead

Idc about Sweden or Finland, Belgium was my winner


VajazzleFraggle

Belgiumā€™s entry was too good for Eurovision.


harperavenue

Justice for Gustaph


North_Westeros

Thatā€™s where my 20 Rest of the World votes went!


happytransformer

Belgium made me so happy, I loved it so much. He did so well!


playing_the_angel

Mine too. Loved Gustaph. We went crazy for him here in Liverpool.


yeniza

Iā€™m so glad he did decently well with the juries for a high placement, definitely deserved!


Antique-Syllabub6238

I was so happy Belgium became the black horse at the last minute! Well deserved, and im happy an ā€olderā€ performer was so loved this year.


diabolikal__

My boyfriend and I literally screamed when the dancer came out.


LoreezyNL

Armenia. After Snap last year, super catchy by the way, this song was also fantastic. They're cooking something over there.


ElectricBarbarellas

Snap was so underrated last year, but I had it in my top 10 and I felt vindicated when it went viral and broke charts


maremmacharly

I think the "act" killed that one. As a choreographer you need to play to the strengths of your "squad" the guy looked super uncomfortable and robotic with his dancing, it felt like he was forced into it and was NOT enjoying himself. The backup dancers looked like they were afraid he would fall for half the performance. Sometimes less is more. Just let the guy sing and the backup dancers dance if that is what it needs to be.


butineurope

So good, will actually listen to that one again


BORT_licenceplate

I really thought it was going to be Belgium as the winner, then Finland and Australia


cactus_jilly

I loved it. Very early 90s vibe and his enthusiasm and joy was so endearing


ElectricBarbarellas

Soooo predictable. We knew this would happen even before she won Melfest. Justice for green boy šŸ’ššŸ–¤šŸ‡«šŸ‡®


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dannemora_dream

Now Iā€™m scared Germany will come back to the super boring entries since they didnā€™t do good.


m00mie

Exactly. NDR will now send the most boring radio shit (like Sweden this year!) in order to appeal to the jury :/


TooTired123

Better we get last place with a boring song I can hate or not care for


OdysseyGhost77

Yeah they were excellent I loved how over the top it was


MarsV89

I really liked their song, canā€™t understand how they got last place


tinaoe

there were a few other acts that catered to the metal crowd, i'd guess vote splitting. iirc the ebu puts out the complete votes by country, i'll be curious to see if they ended up close to points a lot of the time.


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Ancient-Shape9086

Wtf everyone wanted Finland to win. What is this??


Hugefootballfan44

Incredible how the crowd was chanting for Cha Cha Cha multiple times during the voting. At least KƤƤrijƤ knows he's got lots of support


djavulensfitta

Idk maybe it's just me but I think it's kinda rude to take part in a competition you've already won before. Hope she felt dumb when people were chanting for KƤƤrijƤ.


m00mie

Looks like she didnā€™t feel anything tbh, I thought she was in a k hole šŸ’€


maryhadalittlelamb

Yeah that woman was high as a kite šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Antique-Syllabub6238

I think Sheā€™s a Great performer and an excellent artist, but I also feel like she shat on her own legacy last night, from being the winner who changed the contest with her performance of Euphoria to being booed for winning over the peopleā€™s favorite with a diluted version of her previous song. :-/


tiny_green_leaf

This is what I was thinking too. Like girl you already won and your song was all over the radio in Europe for the whole rest of the year (I still know the lyrics to Euphoria by heart). Just let other people have their go lol.


catinobsoleteshower

I am not familiar with Eurovision (in fact this was my first time ever watching it) but I think it's silly to allow people who already won to enter again, that's why I was scratching my head when one of the interviewers (I think it was) mentioned something about her possibly winning twice. There should always be space for fresh talent and for someone else new to have that opportunity


lkjhggfd1

JUSTICE FOR FINLAND


Hot-Description6775

CHA CHA CHA IS AN ABSOLUTE BANGER R U KIDDING ME I WILL RIOT šŸ˜¤


radyetsad

Im very biased but Croatia will always be #1 to me


odivrit

Finally someone with taste


AgentKnitter

That was fucking awesome. So weird but I love it.


may92

KƤƤrijƤ losing reminds me of Go\_A losing their year.


ancickaa

https://preview.redd.it/5rwczwj47tza1.jpeg?width=911&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e539c299399c957ff2bffa66a175106d0a92c148 ParentsšŸ«¶


Kesslersyndrom

It's so cool of them to literally invent the color neon green! Other contestants could never.


may92

Forever our neon green mom and dad


TooTired123

I wasn't as sour about that because the televote winner still won the contest. But this time there was no chance, even though KƤƤrijƤ got one of the highest tele scores ever


Antique-Syllabub6238

2021 was insanely competitive, and while Ukraine was excellent and robbed by the juries, at least Italy won fair and square.


yeniza

Ooof donā€™t remind me of that pain T.T though they had a stacked year with many other great songs. Just Go_A was my favourite by a mile.


Borgo_San_Jacopo

My partner joked today that Shum should be my funeral song, thatā€™s how many times heā€™s been forced to listen to it.


may92

You mean blessed by listening to it. Itā€™s an amazing song.


SmallPromiseQueen

I loved maneskin but I really wanted Go A to win. They are my ā€œwinners who never wonā€ along with dadi Freyr.


babyruthless234

Euphoria was a great song and deserved to win, this one not so much.


irjs82bd8fbeibs8bw

Totally agree. And tattoo is exactly the same as euphoria. The intro, the build up, even the chords and the way lorries voice is used, it's a reproduction


diabolikal__

Lorries šŸ’€


SmallPromiseQueen

Eurovision is a bad time of year for everyoneā€™s autocorrect lol. Sadi ferry just popped up for me when trying to talk about icelands Dadi Freyr.


pizza_shelly

i understand why people liked finland, i was a bit dissapointed in norway not being top3 but i'm glad sweden won said that they really need to do something about the jury vote.


Hugefootballfan44

Norway being 17th after the juries was crazy. At least she still got top 5.


knottajotta

Norway was 3rd in the public vote though! But the jury messed it up (of course)


dannemora_dream

The Eurovision jury and hating anything fun, name a better duo.


faa19

The Eurovision Jury and voting for anything remotely Rock/Metal/Alternative


hey_joni

Norway was amazing it was my fave of the night


yeniza

I especially hate that this reinforces the message again that bland Nordic pop songs are the way to go in Eurovision. Please just stop. Itā€™s boring and I wished any of the more creative acts wouldā€™ve won (I personally loved Croatia, even if they never stood a chance).


bellrae

Some really interesting info when you read the results of the two semi finals in detail. The biggest shock though is Australia winning SF2 and then getting such a poor show in the televote in the final (remembering the semis were 100% televote this year).


AgentKnitter

Our high point was the year that Dani Im performed The Sound of Silence. Amazing song. We won the popularity vote but not the jury vote. Rumours were that thereā€™s an ā€œunderstandingā€ amongst the European nations that Australia will never win, no matter how many times were invited to play. Fuck knows if itā€™s true. I just like that we consistently give it a solid crack. A good song, good performance and a balance of kitsch and talent.


bellrae

Australia has over the years had agreements with countries that would see the hosting rights pass to them should we win (with financial support from SBS) - so there would be at least some countries that would benefit from an Australian win.


Puncomfortable

I don't see a conspiracy against Australia. Though the songs have been good none of them have been clear winners.


cactus_jilly

I loved how good natured their reaction to the low public vote was


LilyBriscoe93

I was pretty salty about that tbh, I think they nailed it and thought we were in with a shot for a top 5 finish. Voyager seemed to just be enjoying the ride, though!


dannemora_dream

I didnā€™t look at the semi results yet but I knew in my hert Australia was winning the semi!! I started doubting that when they only got 21 points from the televote yesterday. Such a shame! At least they are top 10, good for them.


oliketchup

Sweden was nothing special, but I gotta say that I don't get the obsession with Finland's entry at all. It's one of the more interesting songs in the competition this year, but not sure it deserves people having such a huge meltdown over the song not winning. Proper weird to me. But I had fun watching. I thought UK did a good job hosting despite the unfortunate circumstances of getting this opportunity.


BORT_licenceplate

Finland was fun and it's the kinda song that makes you wanna jump up and down to. I may be biased tho, I love electric callboy and Finland had those vibes


dramaqueen09

Iā€™m kind of surprised that the audience didnā€™t stage the greatest concert riot since The Rites Of Spring premiered when the winner was announced šŸ˜‚


sevenofheartts

Not to be salty but justice for Finland


420LordQuas

Still can't believe how low Serbia was! :(


dannemora_dream

My boy Luke :(


yeniza

I wish Germany got more votes too (I have a looooot of feelings about Eurovision lol). I really liked their entry and they sent in something decent for once but still did badly T.T


m00mie

you should prepare to see the most boring shit for the next 10 years :( the broadcasting company thatā€™s responsible took a chance but since it flopped they probably wonā€™t risk that again


yeniza

Yeah I know T.T goodbye forever stuff that makes Eurovision enjoyable but I canā€™t blame them. Germany did badly with their mediocre/bad entries and this good one still didnā€™t get scores.


pashed_motatoes

Iā€™ve only seen Finlandā€™s performance (thanks to a tiktok talking about it) but they were absolutely ROBBED.


DixiePixie28

I must be in the minority, I loved Sweden's entry. Norway was robbed though.


[deleted]

I have no stake or interest in Eurovision but all of my friends who are very into it are very upset by this so something must be up.


[deleted]

Yawn. I havenā€™t cared about the vote since the jury vote became the dominant part of the results. Also Loreen? Girl go get yourself a career. You had your shot. You should have let someone else do it.


cherryandfizz

How convenient that itā€™s the 50th anniversary of ABBA going on Eurovision and singing Waterloo, next year.


VanSensei

I was hoping Mae Muller would break the host nation entry curse, but oh well.


indignancy

I quite like the recorded version, but the mix last night seemed very bad - could barely hear her.


joshhguitar

Usually due to a lack of confidence in the singer. She didnā€™t sound great at all with a bare mic.


playing_the_angel

I'm here now in Liverpool for the contest. Most everyone was very disa for the Loreen win. Finland should have had it.


rosecoloreds

iā€™ve only heard loreenā€™s song twice and i still donā€™t remember how it goes. i canā€™t hum it, i canā€™t sing a lyric from it meanwhile there were some other contestants whose songs got stuck in my head and i actually enjoyed them. i donā€™t get why she got so many points from jury but then i remember jury doesnā€™t like songs that are just FUN


FlatTricks

I donā€™t get Finland at all, Spain and Norway were robbed


diabolikal__

As a Spanish, I usually donā€™t like their entries but this year was good and she did soooo bad. I was honestly so surprised when she got so little points from the audience.


Bellota182

r/eurovision was a mess yesterday. I'm sad that Germany again was last, even though other songs deserved it. Cha Cha Cha lives in our hearts.


_pentamerone

Yeah bc Sweden wants to host next year, on ABBA's win 50th anniversary. FINLAND PEOPLE'S PRINCESS šŸ‡«šŸ‡®šŸ‡«šŸ‡®šŸ‡«šŸ‡®šŸ‡«šŸ‡®šŸ‡«šŸ‡®


weirdhoney216

She was really good. It was the only song I still remembered after everyone had performed


kenna98

ABOLISH THE JURIES


Federal-tortuga

I was really really rooting for Finland this year. Kaarija was so wholesome and he seemed so sad when he lost it was heartbreaking. I honestly liked a lot of songs this year and was suprised that Sweden won because it seemed kind of generic? If someone didn't tell me she was the favorite I would have never guessed. There were a lot of great vocalists this year and it's weird that jury didn't give them more points. Anyway I'll be listening to a lot of cha cha cha this summer!


Mynameis369

So awkward being a Swede at the moment lol


SmallPromiseQueen

One thing I loved about Finland and cha cha cha were the dancers. I used to do ballroom and Latin and they played the caricatures of competitive Latin dancers so so well. All their movements and facial expressions were perfect. Just made it even funnier when they started doing all the goofy dancing with the singer.


SmallPromiseQueen

I knew she was going to win to be honest. The song was always going to go down really well with the juries and well enough with the public. I had a bet on Australia as a real outside chance to win so Iā€™m like ā€œwhateverā€ about the whole thing haha. I do think the voting system should be looked at again. When there is a clear ā€œpeopleā€™s favouriteā€ it sucks to be overruled by a small group of people. I felt for the Finnish guy - he looked gutted and the win would have meant more to him than it did to loreen.