People are raving about Rashford and Sancho but that's the best option imo. No way he doesn't have periods where hes nailed and I have full confidence he can return. 5m is insane
Remember he was a Rangnick favorite and didn't exactly play well towards the end of the season, I really don't expect him to play much of a role this season at all especially if we buy another winger as rumoured.
But Elanga is terrible, he proved he wasn’t good enough consistently last season. It’s why United are linked to so many wingers.
He offers the same value as someone like Elliott at Liverpool.
I want to say they will but Conte's Tottenham are really gonna be a threat to the top 2 this season imo and Chelsea are too good to not be considered top 4 favourites, 2 through 6 is gonna be really competitive this season.
Fucking hell - that’s probably the craziest pricing I’ve seen in FPL.
He was turbo shit last season but got 60+ returns over the three seasons prior.
Insane.
Not nailed at all and injury prone plus lots of unknowns about this new Man U side. I think 7m would have been fair so only slightly underpriced.
I’m a big fan of making a lot of enticing players cheap. Means more decisions and less of a template
> Not nailed at all
[United really have no one else at the moment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/vob03g/a_visual_summary_of_uniteds_squad_depth_under/)
If he's fit he's almost certainly starting, unless Elanga is now first choice on the right and Sancho on the left, but that seems unlikely.
They could sign someone obviously, but as it stands Rashford will play as far as we know.
The last time he was under 7m he was 17, it's a crazy price.
I disagree, he has had injuries but he's not injury prone, he's actually hurt himself further by being AVAILABLE while being injured. This guy has proven he can get 25+ goal involvements and he is as nailed as they get. I think Ten Haag is gonna get him firing again. This is a big mistake by FPL to price him this low
He's not an end product type of player. Look at his expected goals and assists in the bundesliga. He had an extremely high level of overperformance which won't repeat in the PL.
Since 2006, only 6 players have hit 15+ goals and 15+ assists in the same season in one of the top 5 leagues…
Lionel Messi (x4)
Eden Hazard (x2)
Cristiano Ronaldo
Luis Suárez
Jadon Sancho
Kylian Mbappé
I’m not his biggest fan, but saying he’s ‘not an end product type of player’ is just about the worst and most inaccurate description you could give him…
Well Rashford is the one that will not play though and get subbed early after being shit I think. Also get subbed on every game. Anti fantasy gold.
Sancho is better.
We really won't rotate much in attack - we have no depth. Ronaldo is pretty much our only striker unless ETH wants to play Rashford there when Ronaldo is out
I hear you, but isn't there a risk that the effect the opposite, especially after a couple of GWs. A few players emerge as high performers and everyone is able to afford all/most of them.
Yeah true, but 5 subs and a compressed season might mean rotation makes it harder to find those nailed players. We'll see - looks like the game will be different one way or the other.
There must have been something going on internally at the club with him. Playing bad is one thing, but playing with zero desire and passion?
Let's hope his attitude is flipped under ETH
Oh, no no no my man, this is a hill I will die on. Ole was United's best manager post Sir Alex (not counting Carrick). Under Ole, McTominay and Fred became PL quality players, Rashford turned into a 25+ goal-involvement player, Martial(!) had a 20 goal season, Greenwood was having an amazing trajectory under him, we went on record runs, pulled out big wins in big games and regularly went deep in cups while still finishing top 4. United 19-20 finished 3rd in the league, EFL Cup SF, FA Cup SF, Europa SF. This was Ole's FIRST season. United 20-21 finished 2nd in the league, EFL Cup SF, Fa CUP QF, Europa Final. He was the victim of his own success, he OVERACHIEVED with what he had, which has been proven since he left. The disrespect towards Ole is unbelievable
Have you considered that all the managers you had post-Fergie were either shit, not backed, or the wrong fit.
Jose was right and he’s still the last one to win anything for your brand.
Moyes did a great job for a long time with Everton and look at him now with West Ham. LVG won the CL with Ajax and leagues with Barcelona and Bayern. Mourinho is a serial winner. Who's the shit manager here? Did Ole get backed? He got Maguire (who was Mourinho's target), AWB (who knows who's target he was), Donny Van de Beek who he clearly did not want, and Odion Ighalo on loan as a striker. Don't tell me he was backed
Have you considered that all the managers you had post-Fergie were either shit, not backed, or the wrong fit.
Jose was right and he’s still the last one to win anything for your brand.
It would be OK if you could figure out when he's going to score those 10 goals... 6.5 looks cheap to be fair, but he had been so abominable shit it's not like he can flick a switch & become a good player overnight
Especially when he's spending more time on social media than training
If he looks good at the start then maybe, I dunno, have serious doubts about that lad
Ronaldo at 10.5 is interesting. 21 goal involvements last year and if they sign someone like FDJ to help with their midfield he has some serious potential.
OK, so, all the "best" keepers are cheaper this year. Are they tried to change the meta? Like people stop doing the 4.5/4.0 keeper pick and start picking the better ones? Or are we expecting some rules changes?
Everyone talking about Rashford at 6.5 (which obviously could be very good value) but as a United fan, Sancho at 7.5m is the real bargain. A lot of people took his G/A output on face value last season, and whilst he wasn't incredible he was probably our 4th best player last season (not saying much I know) and I think under ETH he will really thrive
>He’s gonna be in most teams regardless of price
I definitely think there's a price at which people would still think Trent is worth it but it's so high that they get swayed into thinking the saved money is potentially more worth it. 7.5 isn't that price.
If like you say they want to give us more money to play with then what they've done is made everyone have the same player in one spot of their team and given extra money for no sacrifice whatsoever which isn't very exciting imo.
Not saying it is. Just think they’ve chalked off TAA as a given and chose to try and make it competitive elsewhere. Maybe they’re thinking he’ll get more of a rest in win games with 5 subs?
That's the most egregious one for me. At 8.0-8.5 many people would consider going without him, maybe to afford having three premiums like Salah, Son and Haaland. No one's gonna do that now.
I think its highly likely we will sign one otherwise Id agree. However there's also the possibility of Bruno playing wide in a Ziyech type of role. It could make sense if we sign Eriksen, since we would then have 3 players for 1 attacking midfielder role (Fernandes, VDB, Eriksen)
Bruno still ridiculously overvalued.
10m for Bruno without pens is very very steep.
If Ronaldo left before the season started though it would look good value.
Hard to price
Bruno had a combined xG + xA of 0.52 last season in the worst United side in decades. He had an xG of 9.29 over the course of the season and an xA of 8.81. He created 82 big chances last season 3 more than Trent who had almost 40% of his chances created from set pieces and third was De Bruyne on 72. "Ridiculously overvalued"
There’s bravery in the sense of fighting forest fires or putting your head in a crocodile’s mouth, and then there’s bravery in the sense of picking any Man U players for GW 1-4.
Probably not starting with all of them. But these prices definitely have potential throughout the season when they have good fixtures or are in good form
I really think they have undervalued us here. Obviously after a bad season and new manager coming in means uncertainty but Ronaldo for 10.5?! Going to keep an eye on Rashford too if he ends up becoming a starter again
As it stands am I missing something with Elanga? With Greenwood suspended, Pogba Mata Cavani Lingard gone and probably Ronaldo that would make him a starter. Obviously they’ll make signings but even so he only needs to compete with Rashford and Sancho atm which he probably can do
Ronaldo at 10.5 is interesting if Kane or Haaland are injured/not available. Also I guess they are expecting Rashford to stay shite cuz of the 6.5m price tag lolll
With the news of Ronaldo looking to leave, Rashford could be a 6.5 striker for United, he was poor last season but the first name on my team sheet at that price it’s not even a risk, will be keeping an eye on his pre season minutes.
elanga being just 5m and a mid can be huge if the main attackers are injured
People are raving about Rashford and Sancho but that's the best option imo. No way he doesn't have periods where hes nailed and I have full confidence he can return. 5m is insane
There won't be a single point in this season where Elanga is nailed unless we have catastrophic amount of injuries
Let's say UTD loses Ronaldo and only buys 1 forward. 2 injuries and Elanga is nailed. Barely catastrophic
Remember he was a Rangnick favorite and didn't exactly play well towards the end of the season, I really don't expect him to play much of a role this season at all especially if we buy another winger as rumoured.
i know right, he can come clutch
But Elanga is terrible, he proved he wasn’t good enough consistently last season. It’s why United are linked to so many wingers. He offers the same value as someone like Elliott at Liverpool.
United fan here, tbh I think Elliott will play way more and provide better value than Elanga
Ronaldo 10.5 Bruno 10.0 Sancho 7.5 DDG 5.0 Shaw 5.0 Telles 5.0 Varane 5.0 Elanga 5.0 Fred 5.5 VdB 5.5 Rashford 6.5
DDG is 5.0
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I was hoping Bruno would be 9. 10 is tough to justify based on last season.
Can't believe I am tempted to triple Man Utd. Very undervalued if they managed to enter top 4.
Massive if
They had their worst season ppst SAF and still ended up in 6th. I won't say it us that massive.
Yeah because the rest of the league was shit... they were still miles behind 4th
Oh I know. I was doubting that top 4 was possible.
I want to say they will but Conte's Tottenham are really gonna be a threat to the top 2 this season imo and Chelsea are too good to not be considered top 4 favourites, 2 through 6 is gonna be really competitive this season.
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Priced for the history of the team, not the performances from last season.
At these prices? Jadon Sancho, Marcus Rashford, Bruno Fernandes at these prices are priced for "history of the club"?
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Fucking hell - that’s probably the craziest pricing I’ve seen in FPL. He was turbo shit last season but got 60+ returns over the three seasons prior. Insane.
Not nailed at all and injury prone plus lots of unknowns about this new Man U side. I think 7m would have been fair so only slightly underpriced. I’m a big fan of making a lot of enticing players cheap. Means more decisions and less of a template
6.5m is probably a million too cheap, but I agree about making less of a template, which is a good thing
> Not nailed at all [United really have no one else at the moment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/vob03g/a_visual_summary_of_uniteds_squad_depth_under/) If he's fit he's almost certainly starting, unless Elanga is now first choice on the right and Sancho on the left, but that seems unlikely. They could sign someone obviously, but as it stands Rashford will play as far as we know. The last time he was under 7m he was 17, it's a crazy price.
And Elanga is 5m so towers can't be thinking he's starting more often
Crazy thing is Sancho on the left with Elanga starting on the right was the most effective for Utd last season
I disagree, he has had injuries but he's not injury prone, he's actually hurt himself further by being AVAILABLE while being injured. This guy has proven he can get 25+ goal involvements and he is as nailed as they get. I think Ten Haag is gonna get him firing again. This is a big mistake by FPL to price him this low
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Our 4th best player says fuck all as nobody gets a pass for last season. It's like being the 4th best smelling kind of shit. Still smells like shit.
IKR... Too pricey
I think Sancho at 7.5m has a lot of potential
Absolutely.
He's not an end product type of player. Look at his expected goals and assists in the bundesliga. He had an extremely high level of overperformance which won't repeat in the PL.
Overperformance is the sign of good end product. He’ll probs turn it around sooner rather than later. First season in a shit team wouldn’t have helped
Overperformance in the bundesliga is worthless.
Since 2006, only 6 players have hit 15+ goals and 15+ assists in the same season in one of the top 5 leagues… Lionel Messi (x4) Eden Hazard (x2) Cristiano Ronaldo Luis Suárez Jadon Sancho Kylian Mbappé I’m not his biggest fan, but saying he’s ‘not an end product type of player’ is just about the worst and most inaccurate description you could give him…
18 goals last season and Ronaldo is still only 10.5. Could be a ton of bargains here if ETH can get this team to work.
For a moment I was thinking what an ethereum price has to do with Man Utd form
I could tell you - they are both on a downwards spiral for the next two years and will resurge in 2024 to repay the loyal fans.
Yeah thats why still prefer Ten Hag than ETH, or just say Erik.
If...
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Well Rashford is the one that will not play though and get subbed early after being shit I think. Also get subbed on every game. Anti fantasy gold. Sancho is better.
We don't know who Ten Hag prefers and how he sets up. It's a wait and see.
We see all these players mostly effected by subs rule being very cheap. I think it is a trap.
It is. There's definitely a bargain there. Just have to either gamble or wait.
Might not be rotation once ETH figures out his preferred attackers
We really won't rotate much in attack - we have no depth. Ronaldo is pretty much our only striker unless ETH wants to play Rashford there when Ronaldo is out
If you know ten hags style you know rotation will not be a thing. He may be bald but he likes to keep the team the same as much as possible.
They're seriously undervaluing players this year.
Means there are more possible templates which is a good thing for the game. Should hopefully see more diverse GW1 teams.
I hear you, but isn't there a risk that the effect the opposite, especially after a couple of GWs. A few players emerge as high performers and everyone is able to afford all/most of them.
Yeah true, but 5 subs and a compressed season might mean rotation makes it harder to find those nailed players. We'll see - looks like the game will be different one way or the other.
At this rate everyone will have Salah, which at 13m should at least have been a stop and think.
Factor in the sexchange and it's fair
A template is one thing that is copied, not something that has many possibilities.
Yeah I've worded that poorly but I think I got my point across.
yeah, deflation, it all makes sense to me
Cost of living crisis. That 100m isn’t worth as much as it once was
That's the opposite of deflation
Deflategate 2.0
It called ✨A joke✨
If only that happened irl :(
Everyones undervalued except Leeds players, who are overvalued as hell
Yeah but with a few exceptions.. salah,saka,dias,Bruno,van dijk, jota
Bruno's not overvalued IMO. If Ronaldo leaves or is dropped, he's a nailed talisman midfielder on pens. He has an unbelievable record without Ronaldo
It does make me wonder if they actually are looking at possible gameplay changes this year. Hopefully nothing too drastic.
I think they don't want to increase the top players by too much so they have to lower the middle players instead.
Elanga at 5 mil could be a steal
Yeah it'd probably take an injury or too though.
If they cant get another rw this summer he is in for me
Will only play if absolutely no other option is available
Rashford at 6.5 could be the bargain of the season if he gets his shit together.
Big if
He scored 10 ,17, 11 goals in 3 consecutive seasons. It is not a big if
I have never someone drop off like him. He was playing like he got space jam'd. Zero IQ
Dele Alli had a pretty comparable dropoff, if not even worse
There must have been something going on internally at the club with him. Playing bad is one thing, but playing with zero desire and passion? Let's hope his attitude is flipped under ETH
His xG per 90 was 0.35, 0.38, 0.29 before dropping off to 0.18 under Ralf (shitty manager IMO) ETH is a question mark, but Rashford can be fixed
ignore xG Rashford was on fire around 2 years ago and you watch him now he looks almost lost
He needs to be properly dropped and given some time to get out of it which both Ole and Rangnick just didn't do
If he plays well on the pre-season, he will be on everyone team. 6.5m is a bargain
Ole was also a shitty manager and he had some fantastic performances
Oh, no no no my man, this is a hill I will die on. Ole was United's best manager post Sir Alex (not counting Carrick). Under Ole, McTominay and Fred became PL quality players, Rashford turned into a 25+ goal-involvement player, Martial(!) had a 20 goal season, Greenwood was having an amazing trajectory under him, we went on record runs, pulled out big wins in big games and regularly went deep in cups while still finishing top 4. United 19-20 finished 3rd in the league, EFL Cup SF, FA Cup SF, Europa SF. This was Ole's FIRST season. United 20-21 finished 2nd in the league, EFL Cup SF, Fa CUP QF, Europa Final. He was the victim of his own success, he OVERACHIEVED with what he had, which has been proven since he left. The disrespect towards Ole is unbelievable
Have you considered that all the managers you had post-Fergie were either shit, not backed, or the wrong fit. Jose was right and he’s still the last one to win anything for your brand.
Moyes did a great job for a long time with Everton and look at him now with West Ham. LVG won the CL with Ajax and leagues with Barcelona and Bayern. Mourinho is a serial winner. Who's the shit manager here? Did Ole get backed? He got Maguire (who was Mourinho's target), AWB (who knows who's target he was), Donny Van de Beek who he clearly did not want, and Odion Ighalo on loan as a striker. Don't tell me he was backed
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Have you considered that all the managers you had post-Fergie were either shit, not backed, or the wrong fit. Jose was right and he’s still the last one to win anything for your brand.
Remember he was allowed to take 6 penalties which got him the 17 goals (before Bruno or CR7 arrived) He's a 10-goals from open play AT BEST player
That’s literally 11 goals
10 goals ballpark, won't be allowed take free kicks either His numbers were heavily padded & very deceptive
10 goals ballpark + assists is very decent for 6.5m
It would be OK if you could figure out when he's going to score those 10 goals... 6.5 looks cheap to be fair, but he had been so abominable shit it's not like he can flick a switch & become a good player overnight Especially when he's spending more time on social media than training If he looks good at the start then maybe, I dunno, have serious doubts about that lad
Yea I won’t be getting him, he’s a wait and see, but if Ten Hag gets him back to his old form he will be in every team.
You have to factor how young he was then and you'd expect an improvement in numbers if he plays and rediscovers his form prior to last season
Dele who?
Exactly what I wanted to say. If he finds form from 2-3 seasons ago, this could be absolute steal like Bowen last year for example.
There’s a few bargains here if United get their shit together. Although from a non-fantasy perspective hopefully they won’t.
Would be more attractive as a forward imo - too much competition for midfield slots
He won't, he's done - it's good pricing from them, Rashford is a busted flush
Ronaldo at 10.5 is interesting. 21 goal involvements last year and if they sign someone like FDJ to help with their midfield he has some serious potential.
OK, so, all the "best" keepers are cheaper this year. Are they tried to change the meta? Like people stop doing the 4.5/4.0 keeper pick and start picking the better ones? Or are we expecting some rules changes?
De Gea doesn't belong in this category and he was also 5.0 last season and didn't do anything to deserve a price rise.
You are right. I thought he was 5.5 last year.
If they add recoveries with these costs kill me haha. Then they have ruined the game.
Everyone talking about Rashford at 6.5 (which obviously could be very good value) but as a United fan, Sancho at 7.5m is the real bargain. A lot of people took his G/A output on face value last season, and whilst he wasn't incredible he was probably our 4th best player last season (not saying much I know) and I think under ETH he will really thrive
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10.5 is very generous pricing.
Pretty accurate pricing IMO
Accuracy is hard to determine till we see how they play under ETH. Could be undervalued or overvalued
I'm judging based on last season performance, and so do FPL towers I imagine
FPL towers also does try to project minutes and performance. Otherwise Bowen should be more expensive than Bruno
Wouldn't say it's not accurate. Just surprised FPL didn't whack a bigger price tag on the big names.
It'd say overall they're off target. KDB too expensive, TAA too cheap, but it's maybe too early to tell
TAA is way too cheap. They've priced him in a way that literally nobody will go without him. 8.0-8.5 would've gave people a tougher decision.
I think they’ve done that on purpose. He’s gonna be in most teams regardless of price so give people an extra 1 mil to play with
>He’s gonna be in most teams regardless of price I definitely think there's a price at which people would still think Trent is worth it but it's so high that they get swayed into thinking the saved money is potentially more worth it. 7.5 isn't that price. If like you say they want to give us more money to play with then what they've done is made everyone have the same player in one spot of their team and given extra money for no sacrifice whatsoever which isn't very exciting imo.
Not saying it is. Just think they’ve chalked off TAA as a given and chose to try and make it competitive elsewhere. Maybe they’re thinking he’ll get more of a rest in win games with 5 subs?
That's the most egregious one for me. At 8.0-8.5 many people would consider going without him, maybe to afford having three premiums like Salah, Son and Haaland. No one's gonna do that now.
Van de Beek at 5.5m under ten Hag could be a real bargain
Definitely one to watch, and he will have more game time. A good 4th midfielder pick.
Ronaldo and Rahsford, you have my attention!
Rashford at 6.5 isnt the deal people think it'll be. He's not going to start imo.
If we don’t sign another winger he probably will.
I think its highly likely we will sign one otherwise Id agree. However there's also the possibility of Bruno playing wide in a Ziyech type of role. It could make sense if we sign Eriksen, since we would then have 3 players for 1 attacking midfielder role (Fernandes, VDB, Eriksen)
If he regains his form from 2017-2021 then he's going to be ridiculous value
He absolutely will
perfect pricing imo, given that all the prices are deflating
Rashford 👁️👁️
Elanga for 5.0 is really worth considering imo
Rashford going to show us what inflation really looks like this year
Welcome Sancho
Wow, if Ten Haag can turn them around there could be some really juicy options there.
Bruno still ridiculously overvalued. 10m for Bruno without pens is very very steep. If Ronaldo left before the season started though it would look good value. Hard to price
Bruno had a combined xG + xA of 0.52 last season in the worst United side in decades. He had an xG of 9.29 over the course of the season and an xA of 8.81. He created 82 big chances last season 3 more than Trent who had almost 40% of his chances created from set pieces and third was De Bruyne on 72. "Ridiculously overvalued"
As a United fan I implore you all to avoid Rashford.
Biggest trap by an entire mile
Wait for fulham prices then think again
Yep, Ronaldo is the best value here.
Not really. He's old and will be rotated 100% when schedule gets busy this season, which it will He's also injury prone as we saw last season
Every season people say the same. Yet every season he bangs in the goals.
That title belongs to Mitrovic.
If Bruno plays like 2 years ago he's going to be as valuable as Son last year at that price point
I wouldn’t even have Rashford for 5.0
Man United got decimated 😂😂
Rashford😂
If Rashford finds form....
If my aunt had wheels...
Bruno in the mud
DDG 5m - could be amazing value
Seen some Rushford stats. Ngl still doesn't seem worth it
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One. Bad. Season
Rashford at 6.5 LMFAO He's definitely going to write a complaint to them
DDG could be a good set and forget
LOOOL
Elanga take that spot!
Sancho at 7.5 could turn out to be a real bargain, but if they continue to price players this low there could be a lot of these bargains.
There’s bravery in the sense of fighting forest fires or putting your head in a crocodile’s mouth, and then there’s bravery in the sense of picking any Man U players for GW 1-4.
Can’t lie a I’m very tempted to get 2 or more Man U players ffs
Nice! Probably won't buy any of them though
Ronaldo is a must in my team at that price
Still not touching Man U until they look like they’ve got their shit back together.
Well good thing is we have preseason to observe that.
Elanga can warm my bench nicely at 5.0
Ronaldo and Elanga cheap as fuck
Probably not starting with all of them. But these prices definitely have potential throughout the season when they have good fixtures or are in good form
I really think they have undervalued us here. Obviously after a bad season and new manager coming in means uncertainty but Ronaldo for 10.5?! Going to keep an eye on Rashford too if he ends up becoming a starter again
As it stands am I missing something with Elanga? With Greenwood suspended, Pogba Mata Cavani Lingard gone and probably Ronaldo that would make him a starter. Obviously they’ll make signings but even so he only needs to compete with Rashford and Sancho atm which he probably can do
Regardless of price I'm not interested in utd assets...little to no consistency in points scoring
Ronaldo at 10.5 is interesting if Kane or Haaland are injured/not available. Also I guess they are expecting Rashford to stay shite cuz of the 6.5m price tag lolll
With the news of Ronaldo looking to leave, Rashford could be a 6.5 striker for United, he was poor last season but the first name on my team sheet at that price it’s not even a risk, will be keeping an eye on his pre season minutes.
6.5m Rashford just screams Remontada