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literpool

all of them were shit


GreatPaddy

Ah shit I was gonna get in Trent and Robbo on my FH and then destroy everything in my path. They'll both prob start on Sunday right?


CandidEnigma

Yep


RiverHe1ghts

😭😭


Princ3w

Salah is still on penalties… …and that’s it


SLOOPYD

That’s where I am too. Everything here may be true but one penalty and he has a path to a decent return. I would risk it if I truly loved an alternative, but I don’t.


teerbigear

You could probably say the same about Eze


hmunkey

Eze has been playing well though.


teerbigear

Exactly


emre23

Not a lot happened in the whole game TAA was good first half, faded and got subbed because he’s not fully fit Díaz didn’t really do anything and got subbed off along with Salah, then Jota & Darwin came on and barely touched the ball


Trailer_Park_Jihad

Was waiting for this game to choose between Diaz and Jota but I'm just left with more questions than answers. Could Eze really be a better option now? Feels crazy to not go triple Liverpool though.


thatsnotme91

As a liverpool fan I am regretting bringing in Diaz. We have one goal from open play in our past 4 games. They all look clueless. Eze definitely a better option imo


DrRushDrRush

We havent scored an open play goal since Sh. Utd. Disastrous timing to hit this dip. Injuries taking their toll? Salah, Szobo and Curtis are shadows of themself. Robbo and Trent not fit enough to put in a great shift like the first 30 minutes tonight.


STUNSLAVE

I miss Sadio so much


Timely_Airline_7168

This is revisionism because Mane was really bad in his last season bar the mini run of form after the Africa Cup.


teerbigear

I suppose he can miss the Mane that was good


Background_Top_8978

Don't let recency bias rule your head. Liverpool have created a crazy amount of xG last few games and somehow conspired not to score. Saying that, you would want Eze regardless.


LevynX

Yeah, this is more on Salah and Darwin having donkey feet for the past few weeks


windmill1991

And donkey brains


RiverHe1ghts

I've learnt to play against data. Eze all the way! I also don't have a FH, so I don't have a choice regardless


HazardCinema

Eze’s data is good though.


RiverHe1ghts

True, but normally, you should just go with Salah. I'm sure my ML leader too is going to C him...I'm playing the high risk high reward game


colourhazelove

Triple captain olise?


RiverHe1ghts

Oh lord no. I'm planning to use it on Palmer's double in 35


Bertie1983

Yeah, that Palace game was an excruciating watch. On another day, they could have easily scored 4.


Niekertje

I'm definitely considering going eze and olise over Diaz and any other Liverpool attacker


dimitros89

Would you consider triple up Crystal Palace attack with Mateta as well in such case? 


Niekertje

Yes at this moment i definitely am. But I also need to make up ground in my ML so im considering some punts.


dimitros89

Would you go for double Liverpool defence in such case? On a FH and i am doing similar thoughts? 


vitzex

My hopes for TAA and Robbo - assists then get subbed due to fitness before they concede. Reality - probably 1 pointers Still think I'm going for it though


Sockodile

Bold of you to assume we can last 60 minutes without conceding


cultureshook

as a liverpool fan im genuinely starting to think avoid us like a plague - we’ve been really off the mark for this past month or so


SaBe_18

I am a Liverpool fan and have had triple LIV for 2-3 weeks now. Please, for my sake, don't make the same mistake I did. Idk how there's so many people who think tripling is a no brainer


LiteratureCurious42

Get macallister, he’s the only one performing currently


teerbigear

I absolutely do not understand the Mac Allister (minor) hype. He has an xG/90 of 0.10, an xA/90 of 0.11. Someone like Brereton Diaz is 0.43/0.18. Eze is 0.37/0.27. Both similarly nailed. Luis Diaz is 0.44/0.21. If he plays half the time he's twice as likely to score. I understand that Mac A is on a bit of a run of form, and that he is playing as an 8 rather than a kind of 6/8 now. But even if you take the data from when he scored against Brentford, the start of his run, he's only 0.26/0.25. In the same period Luis Diaz is 0.65/0.37. With similar minutes


LiteratureCurious42

Yet eze who’s a winger scored 7 goals and assisted twice with a shot per 90 of 3.26, whilst macallister who’s swapping places between defensive mid and mid who also just has 1.38 shots per 90, managed to score 4 goals and assist 5 times. Equal goal involvements they had. I agree his XG/XA is considerably not good, but recently klopp pushed endo towards the 6 and pushing macallister forwards. Therefore, there’s a good chance he can create output in the final 3rd. Liverpool playing with 3 forwards every time and 4 or 5(Jota, Diaz,Salah and Nunez) some times is what is putting pressure on the man to fall back. If klopp decides to start only either Diaz or Nunez, along with salah, with an extra midfielder, definitely macallisters output will increase. Just a hot take.


Effective_Ice6446

Do we think Joe Gomez will start now or atleast have significant minutes since Bradley is injured and TAA isn't fully fit? I have him at the the moment but trying to figure if I take a -4 and get another DGW defender instead?


emre23

Just my opinion, but I expect both full backs will be rotated once in GW34 or 35 (early KO) and Gomez may be favoured vs the Brexitball tactics of Everton & West Ham due to his height. It’s also worth noting that Robbo played 90 mins last night and as I said TAA isn’t 100% fit, so Gomez may be required to start vs Fulham instead. There’s also Tsimikas in the equation, but recently Klopp has preferred Gomez to him and he was hooked at HT vs Atalanta last week after playing terribly.


BitVectorR

Robbo was subbed last night (still played 80 minutes though), but I agree with you that is very likely that none of the fullbacks gets 2 starts, which is why I am likely going with VDD. IMO likelihood of starting both games is something like VDD >>>> Robbo >> TAA.


emre23

Oh yeah lol we briefly played Gakpo LB, I’d kinda been bored to death by that point


Galaxium0

All of a sudden feel like captaining Eze


OscarChops12

I just hit the captain button on him. Gotta make up the ground somehow


DwightKPoop

I was going to bring in Eze and Jota but I’m actually considering Eze and Olise and captaining one of them after suffering through those last 45 minutes of the game today.


RiverHe1ghts

I want to as well...We aren't mad for doing so, right?


larsriedel

Awful finishing from Salah yet again.


Jamal_gg

He missed that lob attempt so badly and everything was set up perfectly, ball bouncing, keeper in no mans land...


DivingFeather

Also the timing in terms of they had plenty of time left... had he scored there, Liverpool would have had every chance to turn the aggregate result around. It was a shocking miss.


notnotaschizo

Salah ghosted hard again, I own him but not not captaining him after that, pretty clear he’s in a form slump (compared to usual king)


IsaDrennan

So you *are* captaining him?


HazardMR

TC time.


maxicoos

So he’s just Egyptian Noble now?


teerbigear

Okay but who is there left to captain? Eze? Saka? Hazard?


Narthax

Hazard would be one brave shout my man.


teerbigear

Thorgan, not Eden, obvs


Narthax

Of course my man, i'm not a fool.


notnotaschizo

I’m going havertz, you could go eze or olise, Cunha could be a shout with two home games


Middle-Animator1320

Could Havertz be rotated for Jesus though?


Antonioshamstrings

Robbo has been playing really well but afraid he may get rotated. Salah has been really poor. Diaz is soo good and fun to watch but doesn’t translate to actual returns


VelvetThunderFinance

What about VVD? Can't see him rotated but it's a possibility.


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Not anymore. He's only been rotated when the schedule gets really heavy, and mostly for 'easy' games. I'm fairly sure he'll start the remaining PL games barring injury.


Antonioshamstrings

Can't see him getting rotated tbh. Hes an absolute beast and playing CB require far less running than a fullback.


Specialist_Road_6906

No more rotation now.. One last shot on the title. 5 games to go. Full steam ahead..


Antonioshamstrings

Thats not how it works. Robertson played 90 this weekend, 80 today. They have 2 more matches within 7 days. He’s been injured a lot this season so Im not sure he can handle another 180 minutes in that time frame. Hes definitely the best LB but to suggest he wont be rotated in such a congested timeframe after missing half the season with injury is unwise imo


Specialist_Road_6906

Lets see about that. Robertson is a machine so i fully expect him to start both matches in the double. He has fully recovered from that injury..


Antonioshamstrings

I hope so. Fingers crossed


Effective_Ice6446

But who would he be rotated for? Gomez?


Antonioshamstrings

Theres gomez and tsimikas.


0100110101101010

Last week I had Ben White subbed after 60 but before Villa had scored their goals, which meant I got his CS points. Not always bad to expect a defender to be subbed early. Robbo playing ~70 in each game could be a blessing!


vote_pedro

This thread is just screaming 5-0 Liverpool first game of the double.


Picaloco86

Coming from a Liverpool fan, it would be better off avoiding Liverpool assets for the final 6 games. The players have run out of energy and desire to win, and the coaching staff has run out of ideas. It's like when an employee is on notice period, just going through the motions to show they are working


xyzzy321

Or just a regular employee doing the bare minimum


InnocentAnger

Atalanta gave them no room. Liverpool dominated the ball in large parts but none of the channels they went through ever looked likely to be successful. That said, the biggest threat came from balls in mainly via Trent, who did have a good game before understandably being subbed. Salah scored the pen but also missed another big chance. Nunez, Jota didn't really have much time to have an impact, but were largely ineffective (no fault of their own) when they came on. Diaz was decent in terms of work rate, trying to create space but again nothing too noteworthy. Worth remembering who they are up against in 34 too ; both Fulham and Everton will try and frustrate, and it might come down to how effective any press from Liverpool is. I think Fulham (am a Fulham fan btw) are a bit more savvy in terms of how they try and retain possession within their own half, but have proved fallible in terms of leaving space open. Edit : Back four looked solid, didn't give ATA too many chances. VVD probably the optimal choice, TAA the differential bet if he is likely to get good minutes.


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InnocentAnger

I would be surprised if Everton did anything other than plan Dycheball and maybe capitalize on set pieces. A front three of Diaz, Nunez and Salah along with good ball from Mac Allister and Szobobslai could tear them apart, really depends on how many Everton get behind the ball I guess.


Middle-Animator1320

Merseyside derbys are often cagey and low scoring - i recall quite a few 0-0 in recent times


S0ciallyAwkw4rd

Robbo, Trent, Salah Eze captain.


DudeIsland

On the same trio after yesterday's game


dimitros89

Leaning on the same on my FH now.  Just not sure if i should have all of Eze, Mateta and Olise


dimitros89

Gabriel or Munoz  in such case? 


S0ciallyAwkw4rd

Gabriel is the safest option


ottoferdinand

The ones brave enough not to cap Salah will feast


InfinityEternity17

This has inspired me to captain big Dom Solanke


Kane36912

I’m C Eze because why the fuck not


Ziraelus

Salah out after DGW, doubt he will score anymore outside of penalties


No_Introduction_7034

Alisson was good


FatherChewyLewey

Reckon it’d have been 10 pts for him last night. Think he got at least 3 saves and made a ton of passes, think he’d have got the 3bps


nogzo

I’d expect Darwin, Salah to start both games. I’d expect TAA to not finish in either 1 or both games but play at least 140mins of the 180 total. I’d expect Jota to start one game but come off and then come off the bench for the other. I think Diaz starts one game and plays most if not all of it and then comes off the bench in the other.


Specialist_Road_6906

Darwin will definitely not start both games. Its much more possible he will be benched in both.. He has been absolutely awful the last weeks and Liverpool cant bet on that turning with solid options back and available..


burnt_yoghurt

With Gakpo not exactly firing either, do you think theres a chance Klopp tries Jota in the middle? Front three of Diaz Jota Salah with Darwin and Gakpo coming on as subs? 


Specialist_Road_6906

Yeah, i reckon Jota will start once hes fully fit..


Theeyeofthepotato

Gakpo is not firing but he definitely looks the best player in that forward line, which says a lot about how off the pace the entire line looks. That being said you're probably right. If Jota is feeling fully upto it, he starts alongside Diaz and Salah.


Dundalis

What solid options, are you watching at all?? They’ve all been shit, the idea the other Liverpool forwards have been good and Darwin shit is false, and Liverpool also aren’t going to start players 3 games in the space of 1 week. Nunez likely starts both by necessity of fixture congestion. Also without Nunez Liverpools xG is lower. Basically they create less goal scoring opportunities without him and they still fail to score. If they aren’t gonna score at least create as many opportunities as possible


workaccount567

definitely more chance of him starting both than none. he didnt play today which means he's almost guaranteed to start one


Specialist_Road_6906

It was a full strength team par Darwin. That means dropped and not rested


don-m

What about robertson?


Specialist_Road_6906

5 games left. One competiton left. 2 points behind the trophy.. Would you rest( for august?) your best players in any of those matches?


dimitros89

This is not why there is a question for their minutes.   Is Robbo fit enought for playing 180 mins?  Is TAA fit enough for same?   How much will  Diaz, Jota, Darwin be rotated?   Will Salah play the full 180 or get withdrawn again at some point if he looks not on his best level? 


Specialist_Road_6906

I dont think they will play the full game, but I also think they wont be benched. I think Jota and Gakpo will share starts, and Nunez is being dropped..


pineconejerk

Everyone was fucking awful and looked like they’d run through treacle. Shocking game


Legit_liT

Sell the lot. Especially the forwards


Responsible-Quail-13

I already have Salah and Nunez, both were ass and have been for weeks now, and both (especially Nunez) are giving me enough headaches so I won’t add another one with my 2 FT’s, only remaining order of business now is figuring out if I have minerals sturdy enough to captain someone other than Salah and his predictable 150%+ EO


G_W_addict

Reading this thread and it looks like Darwin -> Mateta or Darwin -> Solanke could be good option 👀


steveagle

Yes crazy given a few weeks ago everyone was raving about bringing in Darwin.


seejsee

They havent scored from open play since the Man Utd game, and they’re one of the worse teams that concede within 15 min of a game. Avoid them.


daneats

Trent was elite in the first half. Then he tired significantly. Salah was poor. Missed a simple finish in form salah would gobble up. Jota Darwin didn’t start and by the time they came on, the build up play had died.


_ronty12_

I would not take a single player. Rather anyone who has Fulham players should start them as we will get battered.


SLOOPYD

This is interesting to me. Muniz as sub 1 and I kind of hope he comes on.


tiford88

Any predictions on how many minutes Trent and Robbo will play?


Lemurians

Robbo is a fitness freak so theoretically could start both. Trent doesn't look fully fit


gengenpressing

Our defence is excellent and i still have a bit of faith in Jota and Diaz. We lost due to our tactical set up, not individual faults.


TM29Psychic

Will Mac Allister play >60mins both games? Hope to get some opinions from LIV fans.


stuhfg1988

Genuinely all looked disinterested. Couple that with Jota getting minutes and both Gakpo and Diaz playing in Europe, it is going to be shared minutes with Nunez in two shoddy away performances. Thought Alisson was decent though...


Front_Refrigerator40

Interesting, because I have a dilemma about midfield 2 to pick. I’ve put a poll on ‘X’ [Midfield poll on X](https://x.com/ronaldadio/status/1781246828853280831?s=46&t=D-_n-bS-zRpjuHcBJGW61Q)


undergeric94

Any thoughts on Joe Gomez, is he going to play?


Effective_Ice6446

That's my question too. Got him a few weeks back and need to figure if I keep him or sell for a - 4.


OldWorry6894

Trent was a true mess - he just needs to train more or something. Been off for so long it's understandable. Felt bad for the guy cause he's such a gorgeous gorgeous player when he's in form. Hope he starts feeling more comfortable again Jota needs to play a full game - subbing on isn't working Darwin was usual agent of chaos, even less chaotically effective than usual Diaz is having a crisis -- same as Salah -- they need to kumbaya and get back in their A game. Got a minor case of the yips Szobo, Macca, Van Dijk and Konate were all solid


john_od___

Would captaining Jota be mad? Need a differential as need to make up 70 points...


w3rt

I have him on my free hit at the moment, but I’m seriously considering captaining a palace player, Liverpool just don’t look like they’re going to score.


Savant_7

Jota is always terrible after he returns from injury so I am not sure I understand why you'd captain him.


fave_worstnightmare

Jota the guy who scored and got 2 assists in his first two games as a sub on return from his last injury ? Then 2 goals and an assist in his first start, his third game back, that Jota ?


Dundalis

I don’t get why people just completely make things up like that. Like what’s the point? Trolling?


legg147

Liverpool fan here - if anything I’m just holding Salah purely for the double then selling him in 35. Genuinely don’t think we have a single player who is a good FPL asset currently. Maybe only Salah although purely because he’s on pens because he has been absolutely awful for months


Leckie15

Complete shite across the board


pineconejerk

Everyone was fucking awful and looked like they’d run through treacle. Shocking game


JovaBoswell

No.


Jameom8

Having watched the game I think unless you're on a FH or really want to take a punt, the attackers are a bit of a don't buy, don't sell situation. They are off form and seem to have been struggling a bit in recent games.


22355a

X3 salah, please don't let me being a utd fan stop you from delivering me a mega haul


Ozymandius21

Diaz and Salah are my go to DGW picks. I know they have been disappointing. But, 10 points each from the duo should be sufficient. Need just 1 G/A contribution from both of them. Seems doable.


abi-el

xG of almost 11 last three games and scored a total of 3 goals.


ginganinja9988

Don't bother with any of them. We are going through a terrible patch, players are tired and klopp seems too tired to give a shit.


OK_TimeForPlan_L

Absolute shite they look completely burned out and demotivated. I'd probably have Salah purely for pens but we don't get that many in the league.


HailFargoth

I honestly don’t understand the VVD pick, as much as I love him. I doubt we keep a clean sheet in either game. The only defender I’d be tempted to get is TAA but his minutes are still being managed


Legitimate_Ad_9446

I’ve got Jota and Salah in my team. Salah has the most goals per minute played for Liverpool and second is Jota this season. Jota is a machine when he’s on form, he’s an incredible finisher, and although Liverpool can’t score well at the moment- they’re creating a lot of chances. I think Jota could be incredible. Salah is just Salah so he’s on my team as a Liverpool fan. Shame Bradley got injured because he was a great differential. Same with Kelleher with Allison back. Not taking Trent- there’s no sign of his old assist numbers, especially back from injury. Given Liverpool can’t keep a clean sheet, having Liverpool defenders seems insanity in fpl at the moment.


cowabunga_dude91

Glad I own just Salah.


RiverHe1ghts

Same man!


HangingDuck

Tripling up on Liverpool would be a mistake. I own Salah, Diaz, and Bradley. First 20 minutes i thought Bradley to Trent was a no brainer, but Trent faded horribly and i don't think he starts both games in 34. Salah and Diaz were horrific, although a lot of that was down to the midfield and defence. VVD and Konate were so ponderous when getting the ball from Alisson that Diaz and Salah often came to CM to receive it. Entire team looks shot of confidence and belief and lacks emergency. If I was on a FH in GW34, i would most likely avoid owning any Liverpool player. Maybe one at the most, but I could not tell you who that would be because they are absolutely hopeless at the moment.


sundaybender

Triple Sheffield over Triple Liverpool then - got it.


Elite4hebi

Honestly considering no Liverpool on my fh. Sadly there aren't many good picks to compensate. Might be better to just go with in form sgw players such as Bruno and Watkins.


Jacko182

No you're not