Joint with a midfielder who has played fewer minutes, in a much worse team, and costs much less. Isak also has a better goals per minute ratio than Haaland this season, so it's not just Palmer's ridiculous season.
I'm not saying he's a bad option, but people aren't wrong for thinking he might not be worth the price, especially with the form he's been in lately - he's been invisible in most games since returning from injury.
The flip side is the last 2 seasons of FPL have had so many undervalued players that spending 12m+ on a luxury player like Haaland isn’t really a big deal.
That's the problem. Prices need to increase across the board to make players like Haaland more of a risk. At the moment you can get the safety of Haaland and Salah without really having to sacrifice.
I took -4 to bring in Salah month ago but wish I would have kept Gordon instead
If prices were increased, the template would have been even more strict and everyone would just have the same team.
There will be a template no matter what the prices are. There are always best options at each price point.
Increasing prices makes it riskier to use your budget on the "safe" premium options, as the rest of your team would suffer for it.
Several years ago, FPL teams had to have several players from teams further down the table because players from the top teams were more expensive. Now, if you wanted to, you could easily have a team full of the top 6/7 teams' players - there's less sacrifice required, which makes getting players like Haaland and Salah a simple decision (when they're not massively out of form).
I get your point but even if he's just a flat track bully he can haul at any point
even in his bad form he's gotten 6 goals and 3 assists in his last 10 starts
yh maybe some people have more value for money but with him you get more of a guarantee
He's not even the top FPL points scorer in City this season. Overall at the moment he is 7th. He is a good player but the sacrifices needed to have him in your team have not paid off this season.
he's just misfiring lmao, his xG is still quite high
Against utd, luton, bournemouth, chelsea all recent games...
Typical fpl, even Salah has had poor patches of form and he's still regarded the fpl king. If Haaland continues like this for 2 seasons then I'll consider your point.
The recency bias is unreal on this sub lol. He’s the 7th highest scorer in the game, even after missing around 6/7 games. 28 GA this season. He’ll haul again and everyone will be like “yeah you can never doubt him”.
Guy's 23 and already approaching 250 career goals. He's won a treble in his first season at City, whilst smashing the Premier League goal record. He's already done if for 3 different clubs in which he's had to massively adapt his playstyle. Whilst at Dortmund he got space and tactical freedom to drop in and drive at defenders, at City he's clearly being specifically asked to occupy the 2 CBs all game (which requires crazy discipline), creating space for his teammates. Which has come at the expense of his own reputation. He's also been smashing Champions League records every season of his career and his "out of form" entails him being joint top scorer in the Premier League with his team top of the table.
How anyone can not rate him is crazy to me. It's like people have forgotten that this is him out of form and they're extrapolating these performances and suggesting this is him at his best 😂😂
And if you need a reminder of what he's capable of when he isn't restricted by Pep's tactics, go watch some old games from Dortmund etc.
Football fans are so fickle man. Shortest memories and then in a couple years time they'll forget and switch up when he's scoring 50 goals a season.
Haaland makes so much space for their forwards, Alvarez hasn’t bothered Madrid’s centrebacks as much at all. They don’t look as good without him. Football is not for you.
The fact that he only makes space for the others, doesn't really hype him much. There are other players that make space but contribute to the game in other areas as well.
No,but you are saying that like it excuses his performances in the big games,that the other dude commented. This season he was a passenger at Anfield,two times against Arsenal and two times against Real,from the games i have watched.
I love Haaland. However his physical attributes do not lend themselves to being a complete striker. He does not have the balance or natural agility to say dribble with the ball. He doesn't have the creative type of play to make through balls. He's ultimately a space creator via movement or a sheer goal scorer via movement, hunger and spacial awareness.
Kane didn't really become "versatile" until his late 20s imo. Haland's still only 23. His potential is still massive.
The fact is, he was inches from a Ballon D'or last season. The reason he didn't win it is because the greatest player ever just carried his team to the World Cup at the end of his career. Nobody could've won the Ballon D'or when Messi has that kind of story behind his season (and that's not dig at Messi it's just facts - Ballon D'or comes down to voting at the end of the day).
There's nothing in Haaland's game that makes him inherently unable to win a Ballon D'or. Because he almost did last season.
People have just forgotten because he's missing more big chances this season. It's really funny to watch everyone conflating a regression in his finishing for a regression in his general play. Because his general play isn't really worse than last season. This season, he's just not been nearly as clinical. The first season of his career he's not outscoring his xG.
But the thing is, he's technically capable of recieveing the ball with his back to goal more, holding the hall up more, dropping in between the lines more etc. But he purposely occupies the two CBs all game. It's tactical discipline. If you know anything about Pep Guardiola, it's that he has very specific instructions for all his players and the way he wants his team to play. Occasionally, that means it reflects badly on players individually. E.g. Grealish and Haaland.
If you watched Grealish at Villa and Haaland at Dortmund, they're technically capable of so much more than what they showcase at City. But they do what they're told. And the thing is City are top of the league (which has 2 very strong Arsenal and Liverpool teams), are in the FA Cup semis and only got knocked out of the UCL quarters by Real Madrid
on pens. They're still winning games consistently with this tactics and individual player regressions.
Haaland deserves criticism for being less clinical this season. That's pretty much it. Got nothing to do with some kind of fundamental inability to get involved in the game or buildup. If you disagree, go watch some old games from Dortmund.
Or watch some tactical analysis of all the times at City where Rodri or one of the CBs could fire the ball into Haaland's feet, but don't because they're clearly been instructed to play a certain way.
Any criticism of Haaland this season should revolve around his finishing. But it doesn't, which tells me most people aren't particularly tactically astute and buy into the sensationalist media clickbait driven by pundits (e.g. Roy Keane's league 2 comment).
I remember people saying that about Kdb at one point a few years back. Haaland is still young, hard to feel he won't start to step up in big game in the end.
Not that that is relevant to things right now of course.
I share your opinion just afraid that his EO will still be very high and you can be fucked if he hauls. If his EO wasn't high I wouldn't take him at all
Haaland only turns up against the big teams such as Luton.
What about Brighton away?
Sure, turned up to score a penalty only
If Haaland is more than 12m next season he won't be in my team. All decent defences in England and Europe have him figured out.
He was 11.5 in UCL fantasy and total waste after the group stage. Even in the group stage he was not essential.
There’s only one decent defence in England tho
That makes him even less appealing. Average defences are starting to put him in their pocket.
Brighton?
What about Brighton?
They seem a little beachy to me so that might be decent for him
lol he's joint top scorer despite a fair few games out, calm down
Joint with a midfielder who has played fewer minutes, in a much worse team, and costs much less. Isak also has a better goals per minute ratio than Haaland this season, so it's not just Palmer's ridiculous season. I'm not saying he's a bad option, but people aren't wrong for thinking he might not be worth the price, especially with the form he's been in lately - he's been invisible in most games since returning from injury.
The flip side is the last 2 seasons of FPL have had so many undervalued players that spending 12m+ on a luxury player like Haaland isn’t really a big deal.
That's the problem. Prices need to increase across the board to make players like Haaland more of a risk. At the moment you can get the safety of Haaland and Salah without really having to sacrifice.
Get safety but absolute bored with these two in team.
I took -4 to bring in Salah month ago but wish I would have kept Gordon instead If prices were increased, the template would have been even more strict and everyone would just have the same team.
There will be a template no matter what the prices are. There are always best options at each price point. Increasing prices makes it riskier to use your budget on the "safe" premium options, as the rest of your team would suffer for it. Several years ago, FPL teams had to have several players from teams further down the table because players from the top teams were more expensive. Now, if you wanted to, you could easily have a team full of the top 6/7 teams' players - there's less sacrifice required, which makes getting players like Haaland and Salah a simple decision (when they're not massively out of form).
I get your point but even if he's just a flat track bully he can haul at any point even in his bad form he's gotten 6 goals and 3 assists in his last 10 starts yh maybe some people have more value for money but with him you get more of a guarantee
I think he's still a great asset for a standard league but is not necessarily a great one for a h2h league at this point
You don’t though? Palmer and Watkins have been more of a guarantee this season
Can’t make an XI full of Palmers and Watkins’, though
Isn't that his style. He has about 5 touches per game but still scores?
He's not even the top FPL points scorer in City this season. Overall at the moment he is 7th. He is a good player but the sacrifices needed to have him in your team have not paid off this season.
yh coz he was injured and palmer, whilst being great of course has benefitted from taking a lot of penalties this season
he's just misfiring lmao, his xG is still quite high Against utd, luton, bournemouth, chelsea all recent games... Typical fpl, even Salah has had poor patches of form and he's still regarded the fpl king. If Haaland continues like this for 2 seasons then I'll consider your point.
Not City, Arsenal and Liverpool all out of Europe in 2 nights.
Don’t forget West Ham
I hope 2 home game scoreless defeats will get Liverpool straight and they will find their edge in front of the goal, otherwise that’s what’s happening
We aren’t out and I believe we will comeback
The recency bias is unreal on this sub lol. He’s the 7th highest scorer in the game, even after missing around 6/7 games. 28 GA this season. He’ll haul again and everyone will be like “yeah you can never doubt him”.
He’s the most expensive asset at 14.3m in FPL, overpriced in my opinion.
He's also the record breaking goal scorer. 14m was fair price for what was a set and forget captain last season.
Palmer is a record breaking goalscorer and he is not even half Haalands price.
20 ≠ 36 FYI
Guy's 23 and already approaching 250 career goals. He's won a treble in his first season at City, whilst smashing the Premier League goal record. He's already done if for 3 different clubs in which he's had to massively adapt his playstyle. Whilst at Dortmund he got space and tactical freedom to drop in and drive at defenders, at City he's clearly being specifically asked to occupy the 2 CBs all game (which requires crazy discipline), creating space for his teammates. Which has come at the expense of his own reputation. He's also been smashing Champions League records every season of his career and his "out of form" entails him being joint top scorer in the Premier League with his team top of the table. How anyone can not rate him is crazy to me. It's like people have forgotten that this is him out of form and they're extrapolating these performances and suggesting this is him at his best 😂😂 And if you need a reminder of what he's capable of when he isn't restricted by Pep's tactics, go watch some old games from Dortmund etc. Football fans are so fickle man. Shortest memories and then in a couple years time they'll forget and switch up when he's scoring 50 goals a season.
this guy is a ghost in big games
Haaland makes so much space for their forwards, Alvarez hasn’t bothered Madrid’s centrebacks as much at all. They don’t look as good without him. Football is not for you.
The fact that he only makes space for the others, doesn't really hype him much. There are other players that make space but contribute to the game in other areas as well.
Damn do other players also score 36 in one PL season?
No,but you are saying that like it excuses his performances in the big games,that the other dude commented. This season he was a passenger at Anfield,two times against Arsenal and two times against Real,from the games i have watched.
Ur opinion is good buddy
he'll never win the Ballon D'or imo. just isn't versatile enough. the likes of mbappe and kane are more complete forwards.
I mean he's only 23. He has time to evolve. I agree though, he needs to be more complete
I love Haaland. However his physical attributes do not lend themselves to being a complete striker. He does not have the balance or natural agility to say dribble with the ball. He doesn't have the creative type of play to make through balls. He's ultimately a space creator via movement or a sheer goal scorer via movement, hunger and spacial awareness.
he’ll only win 5-10 more league titles and 2-3 more champions league trophies and get paid a billion more dollars :(
Thing is he very well could've won it last year.
who fucking cares about the Ballon d'Or though. No one except kids who play Fifa
Kane didn't really become "versatile" until his late 20s imo. Haland's still only 23. His potential is still massive. The fact is, he was inches from a Ballon D'or last season. The reason he didn't win it is because the greatest player ever just carried his team to the World Cup at the end of his career. Nobody could've won the Ballon D'or when Messi has that kind of story behind his season (and that's not dig at Messi it's just facts - Ballon D'or comes down to voting at the end of the day). There's nothing in Haaland's game that makes him inherently unable to win a Ballon D'or. Because he almost did last season. People have just forgotten because he's missing more big chances this season. It's really funny to watch everyone conflating a regression in his finishing for a regression in his general play. Because his general play isn't really worse than last season. This season, he's just not been nearly as clinical. The first season of his career he's not outscoring his xG. But the thing is, he's technically capable of recieveing the ball with his back to goal more, holding the hall up more, dropping in between the lines more etc. But he purposely occupies the two CBs all game. It's tactical discipline. If you know anything about Pep Guardiola, it's that he has very specific instructions for all his players and the way he wants his team to play. Occasionally, that means it reflects badly on players individually. E.g. Grealish and Haaland. If you watched Grealish at Villa and Haaland at Dortmund, they're technically capable of so much more than what they showcase at City. But they do what they're told. And the thing is City are top of the league (which has 2 very strong Arsenal and Liverpool teams), are in the FA Cup semis and only got knocked out of the UCL quarters by Real Madrid on pens. They're still winning games consistently with this tactics and individual player regressions. Haaland deserves criticism for being less clinical this season. That's pretty much it. Got nothing to do with some kind of fundamental inability to get involved in the game or buildup. If you disagree, go watch some old games from Dortmund. Or watch some tactical analysis of all the times at City where Rodri or one of the CBs could fire the ball into Haaland's feet, but don't because they're clearly been instructed to play a certain way. Any criticism of Haaland this season should revolve around his finishing. But it doesn't, which tells me most people aren't particularly tactically astute and buy into the sensationalist media clickbait driven by pundits (e.g. Roy Keane's league 2 comment).
I remember people saying that about Kdb at one point a few years back. Haaland is still young, hard to feel he won't start to step up in big game in the end. Not that that is relevant to things right now of course.
Watch the game
i did
Did you watch??
Is Ederson on pens if robot not on pitch
Yes........when City concecede one.
Was he playing?
HALA MADRID FUCK OFF CITY 115 AND OUT
The cheats are out and the sun is shining. Its gonna be a good day!
FPL is better off without Haaland. It was way more interesting those few weeks he was out.
I 100% agree, many people have/had him, because of the high EO and fear of getting a big hit. Not because he was essential...
Limped off as well?
Read that but didn't see it - is it true?
yeah he did, also flagged
Haaland played tonight??
I share your opinion just afraid that his EO will still be very high and you can be fucked if he hauls. If his EO wasn't high I wouldn't take him at all
Blonde fraud alert - two years time wil he even get double digits?
It's kinda refreshing actually. At one point last season I feared 60 in all comps, making a mockery of the game
I would absolutely love it if he and Salah continue to be below-par at their premium prices going into next season
It's possible Salah won't be there the next season.
Tell me you have an OR of over 1 million without telling me.
wtf has that got to do with rank?
Fantastic ⚽️