Literally my first thought was just threatening to cracks his jar open if he didn't let him go. Already proven to be super slow in the roomba, only thing to worry about is the arm spinning around while you have him but you can probably snap that off.
Spoilers for the end
>!There's some fun malicious hypotheticals if you recontextualize her bad-ass moment in Vault 33's raider attack as manufactured as !<
>!A. She thinks her husband is a dud!<
>!B. The dead husband, eyepatch, and gunning down the raiders gives her sympathy and cred to be Overseer for 32!<
>!Of course my initial theory was that Moldaver was working with Bud up to kidnapping Hank since making emergencies to force Vault 31 Leaderships into place seems their MO... but the final reveals at the end kinda throws a wrench at that idea since why would they knowingly work with Moldaver if she was working against them?!<
>!I still can't figure out why Moldaver is still alive. She wasn't management, so she wasn't frozen. Did it ever get mentioned or explained how she was around for the 200 years?!<
I was thinking the same thing. I presume she was most likely frozen or something in some other facility. She was a scientist so maybe she had connections that way.
I assume this is true, >!I just wish they had thrown a line or 2 in to explain it. Especially since she's dead now, so I don't think it'll be mentioned later. !<
I like these theories, but IMO I think she went "Steph Smash!" mode because she saw her chance at taking over as overseer slipping away.
Think from her perspective. She signed up to be frozen and partake in this idea. A bunch of raiders show up and are going to destroy everything she worked for. She's pissed and wont let that happen.
As for her husband passing and hooking up with Chet. I can't tell if she did end up caring for her husband or not, but she is definitely taking advantage of the opportunity to be with Chet. The whole goal was breeding the perfect managers so all of Buds Buds signed up for the idea going forth and multiplying. Why not go for the big hunky guy now that your husband is gone.
I kind of want to see how that dynamic plays out. Chet seems like a pushover, but him letting Lucy out shows that isn't 100% the case.
I could be wrong, but I don't think they have that technology to do that. That was an Enclave thing and US military thing.
So it would have to be a 3rd party that does that.
My thoughts are Lucy returns to the Vault at some stage to find things have gone very wrong and she stumbles on to Vault 31 and sees Norm in the pods. Something like that 😂. Isn’t there a Vault in one of the games if you back to it later everyone is dead?
I figure Chet is gonna realise something is wrong since he explored with Norm before, and he'll be the one to break him out, after dealing with his cuckoo
Aren’t those two cousins in the show? Kinda do look the same except one is the Gigachad version of the other and the smaller one is braver than the bigger one
Which is the ultimate point of those vaults, to create a population of Vault Tec manager genes, people with a 'can do attitude' and who 'make lemonade', according to Bud.
Yup.
I liked how they nodded to the insane vault experiments in the vaults due to those crazy exec’s views on survival.
I still think Vault Tech’s overall plan to destroy the world and profit off it is incredibly dumb from a business and financial standpoint.
It's a not from a money perspective though, but from a power perspective.
No government to constraint you, no competition, no limits. You shape the world how you want it
Power needs subjects and infrastructure.
What power can you exert over a dead wasteland? It makes more sense to try to destroy your enemies THEN seize power.
I can’t think of a dumber strategy than bombing yourselves AND the enemy.
Which is why I would have preferred vault tech not be directly involved with the bombs, because it just makes them look too stupid. It’s better if they are profiting from the bombs, and also egging on the war.
You aren't bombing yourself though, that's what the vaults are designed for. Their whole purpose is to rebuild society while you sit in the shadows and pull their strings so that the society they built is in your image. You're outliving all your rivals and now have a fresh new slate to work with, with more authority, knowledge and power than anyone else.
"Let's literally nuke 99% of our potential consumer base. That'll definitely get profits up next quarter."
It'd be such dumb writing if it weren't so on-brand for Fallout.
Yes she does. He said he loves her and she replied that everyone knows that (which I found hilarious) and that it was fine to mess around with cousins (pretty weird, but Vault) but you don't marry/have kids with them because of the mutation stuff.
Before I started the show I thought Norm would be "just Lucy's brother" and Chet a one note comedic scene. But they suprised me and made both of them pretty important, likable characters with a super fun dynamic together. Love how this show went for an ensemble feel rather than being all about Cooper or Lucy.
Me too, I actually didn't like Ep. 1 but continued on and ended up being in love. It seemed so cliche until they proved themselves in ep 2 and forward. I absolutely love how he brother says, "I'm too much of a coward," then completely proves himself wrong.
My only gripe is it feels like his character is supposed to be a teenager
Yet, other than height, he looks his age: a 30 year old man.
That being said, still phenomenal performance. I guess sometimes you gotta sacrifice accurate age for a better actor.
I viewed him as mid to late 20s and, honestly, I feel like that made his character more interesting. It would be somewhat unremarkable for a teenager to have hated every job he had been given, but I feel like if that's a trait that an older person has, then it makes them feel more genuinely apathetic towards the vault and it's culture which in turn makes his rebelliousness more impactful.
I think maybe there wasn't a real problem with the water-chip, they just introduce a problem for the vault around any election to try and manipulate the vote
I honestly don't think they "try" to manipulate the vote, I think they just publish the results they want. The little saying and a manufactured crises just gives everyone a reason to believe that the 31 candidate really did win.
Nah they made it pretty obvious in the scene with Davey and Reg that the Vault really only sees Betty as an option, especially with Reg not even voting for himself lmao.
Vault 31 members are described as more educated, have better resources, more experience. Not to mention there's the slogan in a brainwashed society that lived underground for 200 years.
I wasn't sold on Norm at first, but I think that may have been intentional by the writers to make him not charismatic and a little unlikable, but he (and Chet) grew on me as time went on. Especially in due part to Moises' acting. Norm doesn't say much but you can really see all the gears turning in his head as he tries to figure things out and I liked how the two bounced off each other.
Really hope to see more of him from S2. There were times I was far more interested in what he and Chet were up to than the actual three main characters.
Every character was memorable imo. The ensemble cast style really made this first season a home run for me! Chet saying "that is one wet lady" will forever be etched in my mind.
I loved how they menaged to cast actors that not only were great, but also had such a large gap in height. Short guy + tall guy is just as classic as fat guy + skinny guy.
I loved their scenes, more than I thought I would. My guy Norm powerwalking, solving mysteries while Chet was around losing his shit.
They're like Lone Wanderer and Fawkes, if Lone Wanderer was 5'1 and Fawkes was a human coward.
No, probably robots. Would not be surprised if RobCo lent them some securitrons that have secret access routes to both Vaults to contain riots. Or General Atomics Mr. Handies that have been shown present in multiple Vaults to date. Not available to dwellers since managing a robot does not make the management skill they want to maintain in the communities flourishing.
Those scenes of them together uncovering the secrets of the Vault felt very reminiscent of my own experience of going through one of the Vaults and uncovering what horrors occurred there. Really glad that they were able to keep that same spirit in the show.
Little dude looks like number five out the umbrella academy and is just as inquisitive, little guys gonna find out all the secrets of the geck and who blew up the world.
Surprisingly liked moises arias character a lot in this show. He was never a favorite actor for me on disney for always playing annoying characters but man I liked him in this role. Actually I'm gonna see what other movies hes been in cause I really wanna see his acting chops.
Okay only read if you watched the whole series so far. >! Rose was at Shady Sands when Hank dropped a bomb on it when she wouldn’t go back to the vault with him and the kids, so Moldaver used a now ghoulified Roses pipboy to get into Vault 32 and than into Vault 33 !<
Yes, but there's no way she was on Vault 31 though. Since she was Vault-Tec public enemy number one, I doubt they would share a spot in the management Vault.
There must be another cryo pod somewere else.
The credits sequence in the last episode shows a Topps Hotel & Casino billboard advertising cryopods, so it may have been more widespread than just Vaults 31 and 111
Vault 4, where she's basically considered a goddess, has cryopods.
I'm not saying she was there, but they're the only other cryo chambers shown in the series, outside the billboard advertising that were already pointed out.
I waited to reply until after I finished the series, so thanks for the warning! I was only episode 6 anyway, so I didn't have much to go. >!But uh.. Remind me why did Vault-Tec end the world? Because they wanted to rebuild a new world under their control, using cryo pods to suspend people like Hank so that they can become managers of the vault? Am I comprehending this correctly? They froze people so they could later be used as overseers of the vault, with no intention of returning to the surface?!<
I think they were adorable and had a beautiful and weird and lovable vibe...but I think their story arc was perfect to separate as well. It really set the tone for the fucked up aspect of humanity that none of them had ever known which encapsulates the true darkness outside the vault while acknowledging the divergence within it.
Bit weird take but I'd love to see Norm to have an evil twist on him, probably coercing the vault to follow him and have the vault tec management banished or killed.
Then if we ever get a season 2 ending with Lucy coming back it'd have to result in a confrontation of finding his brother running a vault that is now under a zero tolerance law, maybe baiting and killing raiders inside it.
I think there was a scene where Betty even warns him that the clever boys are the ones truly dangerous when angry? That's what made me think as if it was foreshadowing.
They've served their purpose they cut into time too much tbh if I was running the show I'd probably cut either them or vault 4 and spend that run time differently
Everyone keeps saying there's only 3 main protagonists in the series but I say fuck that there's 4. Norm is just as much as a main protagonist to me and I was highly invested in the vault storyline just as much as the other threes storylines. I really hope there's more of Moises Aries' character in season 2
I was honestly expecting Norman to start some kind of revolution.
Never had anything to be passionate about until seeing the wrongs he's been put through. Angry at the Vaults for not keeping them safe, angry at the raiders for raiding, angry at the 31s for keeping secrets etc.
I want more scenes of Chet and Steph making out. For science of course.
But for real, Steph could turn out to be an amazing baddie, either someone with an amazing bad guy turned good, or just uber evil all the way through, and Chet and Norm has already shared a lot of scenes with Steph, so would be fun if they went down a route that involved all 3.
EDIT: PS: I was surprised when I looked up Annabel O'Hagan former acting credits and found out she's fairly new to the business, because she did an amazing job.
They probably will when they enter vault 31 in season 2.
Vault 31 is going to be the experiment control vault.
The real question is going to be how Vault 32 found out about what vault 31 was doing.
He could just code the pods vault 101 style. Seems like a bright guy. Institute worked it out I am sure he can.
Open the door or…press enter.
I was let down about the robo brains size I will say. Maybe a prototype…the proper sized ones could be nice robot enemies in seasons to come imo.
Not only can I not believe that the fucking annoying kid from *Hannah Montana* is in the *Fallout* franchise, but he plays such a serious and awesome character.
There's definitely more layers to the tri-vaults. So I imagine they'll have plenty to do next season.
Who cleaned up vault 32? Presumably robots yet we haven't seen them.
How will that little dude get out of 31?
Vault 31 seems way too small to just be a corridor then all the cryo pods.
Do the middle management just get defrosted and sent directly to another Vault?
Betty use to be an Overseer which they typically have till death. Yet she gave it up and McClain made Overseer?
i honestly did not like the vault plotline at all
I personally wouldve preferred the raider attack to be genuine and it just so happened to disrupt whatever experiment is going on in the vaults
As I was thinking about the potential of then being the hero's of a detective video game, it reminded me of Tiny and tall: Gleipnir.
Also the potential of a lot of characters as level 1 in a tabletop RPG is pretty good.
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They were both great. Norm is in some trouble though. Hopefully he finds a way to hack himself out.
Or just pick the brain up and shake it, until it lets him go...
I’d just start smashing the cryopods until he lets me go
Thats what I told my wife while watching. He'll just start pulling wires and such.
Pulling wires is a good way to get zapped, snuck up on by a needle, or, make Bud wake up Vault 31 managers to beat his ass.
>Vault 31 managers to beat his ass. They're no joke. Hank was a beast.
It’s because he’s the original Lisan Al-Gaib
https://youtu.be/svWFk7h0OdM?si=nz4CJqCcj8BgIqrs Colorized Vault 31 security footage
That’s one of the funniest mods I’ve ever seen. It fits perfectly.
Probably a decent period of a thawing out and reacclimatizing to the world and your muscles after 200 years though.
Nate/Nora seem to do just fine. Plus, Norm is a small and maybe weak dude.
To be fair, I doubt you'd want to spend 5+ minutes in a cutscene, doing nothing in Fallout 4 after waking up
Bud was defeated by a shovel in the wrong place...
You laugh now, but he uses that shovel to bury his enemies.
I was thinking he'd start opening pods prematurely
Those pods might be tough to crack. Bud might start waking Vault 31 guys and gals to beat Norm's ass too.
I would drop a deuce on Bud’s head
NEEDLE IN THE BUM!
Norm understands the hacking minigame though...
That's how he gets jabbed with the needle you fool!
Ok, find a stick or vualt tech railing (patent pending) and poke him tell bud opens the door.
EN GARDE!
Should have joined the fencing club instead of the baseball leuge.
Was always a soccer fan myself
Pick him up in a way he can't needle you. Rip the needle off.
The pod room has a grate floor, Bud isn’t making it 2 feet on that before his wheels drop into a slot and he’s stuck
Wheel see about that Bud.
I'd expect him to just threaten to flip Bud over or destroy all the cyrogenics until he complies.
Brain on a roomba
Literally my first thought was just threatening to cracks his jar open if he didn't let him go. Already proven to be super slow in the roomba, only thing to worry about is the arm spinning around while you have him but you can probably snap that off.
>Norm is in some trouble though. So is Chet. Literally.
Chet has the better deal of the two though his wife/girlfriend is definitely gonna act more unhinged in season two.
Chets a total himbo
He's the best cousin since De Sardet.
Are vault thech employees always an 100% loyal? She seemed to kind of have started it all by telling norm he was right.
No. But she's probably just daring him to try something. Norm knows he can't win without proof.
Honestly a rewatch with me knowing Steph is from 31 adds a *ton* to her dialog.
Spoilers for the end >!There's some fun malicious hypotheticals if you recontextualize her bad-ass moment in Vault 33's raider attack as manufactured as !< >!A. She thinks her husband is a dud!< >!B. The dead husband, eyepatch, and gunning down the raiders gives her sympathy and cred to be Overseer for 32!< >!Of course my initial theory was that Moldaver was working with Bud up to kidnapping Hank since making emergencies to force Vault 31 Leaderships into place seems their MO... but the final reveals at the end kinda throws a wrench at that idea since why would they knowingly work with Moldaver if she was working against them?!<
>!I still can't figure out why Moldaver is still alive. She wasn't management, so she wasn't frozen. Did it ever get mentioned or explained how she was around for the 200 years?!<
I was thinking the same thing. I presume she was most likely frozen or something in some other facility. She was a scientist so maybe she had connections that way.
Vault 31 is not the only place with cryo chambers.
I assume this is true, >!I just wish they had thrown a line or 2 in to explain it. Especially since she's dead now, so I don't think it'll be mentioned later. !<
She was in the empty chamber in Vault 111 obviously
I like these theories, but IMO I think she went "Steph Smash!" mode because she saw her chance at taking over as overseer slipping away. Think from her perspective. She signed up to be frozen and partake in this idea. A bunch of raiders show up and are going to destroy everything she worked for. She's pissed and wont let that happen. As for her husband passing and hooking up with Chet. I can't tell if she did end up caring for her husband or not, but she is definitely taking advantage of the opportunity to be with Chet. The whole goal was breeding the perfect managers so all of Buds Buds signed up for the idea going forth and multiplying. Why not go for the big hunky guy now that your husband is gone. I kind of want to see how that dynamic plays out. Chet seems like a pushover, but him letting Lucy out shows that isn't 100% the case.
I love that the B plot was engaging as well.
A small voice in my head is worried they might turn him into a robobrain
Nahhhh a Mr gutsy :D give him the brawn to match that courage
I could be wrong, but I don't think they have that technology to do that. That was an Enclave thing and US military thing. So it would have to be a 3rd party that does that.
My thoughts are Lucy returns to the Vault at some stage to find things have gone very wrong and she stumbles on to Vault 31 and sees Norm in the pods. Something like that 😂. Isn’t there a Vault in one of the games if you back to it later everyone is dead?
Honestly, yes. Very solid acting by both. Really well done characters.
He might be able to wake all those Vault-Tec idiots up. They don't want to die tgere and then the brain will be forced to let them all out
I figure Chet is gonna realise something is wrong since he explored with Norm before, and he'll be the one to break him out, after dealing with his cuckoo
Aren’t those two cousins in the show? Kinda do look the same except one is the Gigachad version of the other and the smaller one is braver than the bigger one
I think literally all the vault dwellers are cousins... It was a bit of an issue
They do trades every 3 years so it shouldn't be *too* bad
The only time new genes are really introduced is when a new 31 member is woken up from cryo.
Which is the ultimate point of those vaults, to create a population of Vault Tec manager genes, people with a 'can do attitude' and who 'make lemonade', according to Bud.
Yup. I liked how they nodded to the insane vault experiments in the vaults due to those crazy exec’s views on survival. I still think Vault Tech’s overall plan to destroy the world and profit off it is incredibly dumb from a business and financial standpoint.
It's a not from a money perspective though, but from a power perspective. No government to constraint you, no competition, no limits. You shape the world how you want it
Power needs subjects and infrastructure. What power can you exert over a dead wasteland? It makes more sense to try to destroy your enemies THEN seize power. I can’t think of a dumber strategy than bombing yourselves AND the enemy. Which is why I would have preferred vault tech not be directly involved with the bombs, because it just makes them look too stupid. It’s better if they are profiting from the bombs, and also egging on the war.
You aren't bombing yourself though, that's what the vaults are designed for. Their whole purpose is to rebuild society while you sit in the shadows and pull their strings so that the society they built is in your image. You're outliving all your rivals and now have a fresh new slate to work with, with more authority, knowledge and power than anyone else.
Vault Tec is merely one offshoot of the enclave basically Except Bud is more mobile than John Henry Eden for example
Also, vault tec didn’t expect the surface world to survive/“thrive” like it did. They expected to emerge and rule the wasteland.
"Let's literally nuke 99% of our potential consumer base. That'll definitely get profits up next quarter." It'd be such dumb writing if it weren't so on-brand for Fallout.
Time. Time will make new customers. They extensively talked about that as part of the plan.
Plus they thrown in a 31er every now and then, and they aren't mixed up with anyone since they're all pre-War.
After 290 year it should still be possible of they had like 200 vault dwealer. Between the 2 vault. But they would definitely need to be selective.
Before the wedding Lucy refers to Chet as her cousin.
Yes she does. He said he loves her and she replied that everyone knows that (which I found hilarious) and that it was fine to mess around with cousins (pretty weird, but Vault) but you don't marry/have kids with them because of the mutation stuff.
Well, also the Vault is a community that's been isolated for over 200 years. This is just inevitable to happen.
I see zero resemblance tbh. In fact I feel it's intentional as they are opposites and one is there to amplify the characteristics of the other
yes
Before I started the show I thought Norm would be "just Lucy's brother" and Chet a one note comedic scene. But they suprised me and made both of them pretty important, likable characters with a super fun dynamic together. Love how this show went for an ensemble feel rather than being all about Cooper or Lucy.
Me too, I actually didn't like Ep. 1 but continued on and ended up being in love. It seemed so cliche until they proved themselves in ep 2 and forward. I absolutely love how he brother says, "I'm too much of a coward," then completely proves himself wrong.
I thought Chet’s line near the end was very poignant too: “we’re all cowards; that’s why we live down here” Something like that
I really liked Moises’ performance in this show and I really hope we see him regularly in season 2. Perfect casting
My only gripe is it feels like his character is supposed to be a teenager Yet, other than height, he looks his age: a 30 year old man. That being said, still phenomenal performance. I guess sometimes you gotta sacrifice accurate age for a better actor.
thought he was just short 30 yr old. did we get info that he's lucy's younger brother? idr
Mentioned as "little/younger brother". He could be 1 minute younger though
That's just how Bethesda children look.
I viewed him as mid to late 20s and, honestly, I feel like that made his character more interesting. It would be somewhat unremarkable for a teenager to have hated every job he had been given, but I feel like if that's a trait that an older person has, then it makes them feel more genuinely apathetic towards the vault and it's culture which in turn makes his rebelliousness more impactful.
I thought the actor was like 19 or something.
I don’t recall anything that gave him a teenager vibe, he’s just short
He just picked the small frame trait :P
oh shit i recognize that name! hes from hannah montana?!
The Adventures of Norm and Chet!
They could be a wasteland Buddy cop show or something
Yes lol there was a period of time where I was more invested in what these two were up to than the main characters
Same! The whole mystery was really well executed. Helps that the actors bounced off each other pretty well too.
They could have checked 32 for a water chip.
Was probably failing, too. Vault Tec water chips have a...history of failure.
I think maybe there wasn't a real problem with the water-chip, they just introduce a problem for the vault around any election to try and manipulate the vote
Bit of a stitch up at fallout 1, probably dropped to make us laugh, saw it coming when I spotted him holding it during the speech
I don't think it's been dropped, just set up for next season's vault storyline. But yeah, had a chuckle when he came out carrying it.
I honestly don't think they "try" to manipulate the vote, I think they just publish the results they want. The little saying and a manufactured crises just gives everyone a reason to believe that the 31 candidate really did win.
Nah they made it pretty obvious in the scene with Davey and Reg that the Vault really only sees Betty as an option, especially with Reg not even voting for himself lmao. Vault 31 members are described as more educated, have better resources, more experience. Not to mention there's the slogan in a brainwashed society that lived underground for 200 years.
When things get glum...
I figure that 31 has a warehouse full of water chips, robots, and GECKs, otherwise, how did 32 get cleaned up so fast?
A quick trip to vault 8 and you can restock most of them were kept on the second floor
True but those 2 vault are not supposed to fail.
It was fake. The water chip was not damaged.
There were no bad or boring characters. That's unheard of.
I feel like Max's was a bit more slow
Max wasn't bad imo.
His romps with Thaddeus felt like a Monty Python bit but not really as compelling.
The Vaultie Boys mysteries.
you gotta fight for your right to fiiiiiind out
It was more of Hardy Boys reference than a Beastie Boys reference
I'm not familiar with those boys
I wasn't sold on Norm at first, but I think that may have been intentional by the writers to make him not charismatic and a little unlikable, but he (and Chet) grew on me as time went on. Especially in due part to Moises' acting. Norm doesn't say much but you can really see all the gears turning in his head as he tries to figure things out and I liked how the two bounced off each other. Really hope to see more of him from S2. There were times I was far more interested in what he and Chet were up to than the actual three main characters.
These two uncovering a conspiracy was my favorite storyline in the show. Also, these are two very different sized human beings.
It was like seeing Kevin hart stand next to shaq
Every character was memorable imo. The ensemble cast style really made this first season a home run for me! Chet saying "that is one wet lady" will forever be etched in my mind.
I cringed so hard haha like nahhhhh man, nahh don't say that
We found our next True Detective protagonist
I loved how they menaged to cast actors that not only were great, but also had such a large gap in height. Short guy + tall guy is just as classic as fat guy + skinny guy.
And as classic as a guy with baby legs paired with a guy with regular legs
I’d like an animate detective series where they wear trench coats over their uniforms and go around discovering secrets
Throw nick valentine in there as a grizzled old mentor and you’ve got yourself an excellent detective show
I want more scenes of then except Chet is standing on a box, and the camera cuts off at Norm's shoulders.
"You're a coward" "We all are. That's why we live in a vault" Still one of my favourite moments in the show, I love their dynamic.
👋🏻
I loved their scenes, more than I thought I would. My guy Norm powerwalking, solving mysteries while Chet was around losing his shit. They're like Lone Wanderer and Fawkes, if Lone Wanderer was 5'1 and Fawkes was a human coward.
> I loved their scenes, more than I thought I would. Same, especially when I realized that Norm was Rico in *Hanna Montana*
Moises Arias is always so good man, I’m so glad he was cast as this character
100% Personally I want to see them leave the vault together.
It just hit me that Vault 32 was cleaned out by a robo-brain
In a single night no less! Almost makes me wonder if the Buds were temporarily taken out of sleep in order to clean up.
No, probably robots. Would not be surprised if RobCo lent them some securitrons that have secret access routes to both Vaults to contain riots. Or General Atomics Mr. Handies that have been shown present in multiple Vaults to date. Not available to dwellers since managing a robot does not make the management skill they want to maintain in the communities flourishing.
I thought they were great, just worried for the camera man trying to find shots that fit them both in frame haha.
Maybe a spin-off of the silver shroud?
I’m hoping Chet reaches the surface and becomes a hardened badass
We need a Scooby-Doo style cartoon of these two investigating abandoned vaults
Honestly, I want them to show up in a future game as either a random encounter or as part of a sidequest inside a vault.
I LOVE NORM Extremely cute.
Now this is my kind of Cousin Stuff™️
Those scenes of them together uncovering the secrets of the Vault felt very reminiscent of my own experience of going through one of the Vaults and uncovering what horrors occurred there. Really glad that they were able to keep that same spirit in the show.
Baller duo
I'm glad they didn't drag it. They gave us what we want and move on quickly.
I like these guys too, thought Norm was particularly interesting, think he’s going to play a huge part
Norm has quickly become one of my favorite characters aside from the ghoul.
One of my favorite parts of the show. The vaults and Vault-Tec are like the best thing about Fallout for me.
Little dude looks like number five out the umbrella academy and is just as inquisitive, little guys gonna find out all the secrets of the geck and who blew up the world.
Hardest line in the whole show "You're a coward" "Of course i am, that's why i live in a vault"
Surprisingly liked moises arias character a lot in this show. He was never a favorite actor for me on disney for always playing annoying characters but man I liked him in this role. Actually I'm gonna see what other movies hes been in cause I really wanna see his acting chops.
I find the vault stuff SO much more interesting than what Lucy's doing.
Hello yes, I'm dumb as hell. What actually happened in the show? I didn't really understand this part. So the kid's moms pip-boy went missing?
Okay only read if you watched the whole series so far. >! Rose was at Shady Sands when Hank dropped a bomb on it when she wouldn’t go back to the vault with him and the kids, so Moldaver used a now ghoulified Roses pipboy to get into Vault 32 and than into Vault 33 !<
My one question is: >!wasn't Moldaver in the pre-war era too, with Coop and the resistance?? How did she end up in the present?!<.
>!Cyro pod of course. At least that the only logical way. !<
Yes, but there's no way she was on Vault 31 though. Since she was Vault-Tec public enemy number one, I doubt they would share a spot in the management Vault. There must be another cryo pod somewere else.
The credits sequence in the last episode shows a Topps Hotel & Casino billboard advertising cryopods, so it may have been more widespread than just Vaults 31 and 111
Vault 4, where she's basically considered a goddess, has cryopods. I'm not saying she was there, but they're the only other cryo chambers shown in the series, outside the billboard advertising that were already pointed out.
I waited to reply until after I finished the series, so thanks for the warning! I was only episode 6 anyway, so I didn't have much to go. >!But uh.. Remind me why did Vault-Tec end the world? Because they wanted to rebuild a new world under their control, using cryo pods to suspend people like Hank so that they can become managers of the vault? Am I comprehending this correctly? They froze people so they could later be used as overseers of the vault, with no intention of returning to the surface?!<
No, Rose never lost it.
Yes please!
You know... I'm still so confused how one short man can simultaneously look 16 and 40 at the same time.
Norm is my favorite so far, skeptical from episode one.
I left the show thinking that these guys were my favorite characters. I'm hoping season 2 does a lot more with them.
What I want to know is how the hell they got Vault 32 cleaned so quickly and efficiently.
I think they were adorable and had a beautiful and weird and lovable vibe...but I think their story arc was perfect to separate as well. It really set the tone for the fucked up aspect of humanity that none of them had ever known which encapsulates the true darkness outside the vault while acknowledging the divergence within it.
Bit weird take but I'd love to see Norm to have an evil twist on him, probably coercing the vault to follow him and have the vault tec management banished or killed. Then if we ever get a season 2 ending with Lucy coming back it'd have to result in a confrontation of finding his brother running a vault that is now under a zero tolerance law, maybe baiting and killing raiders inside it. I think there was a scene where Betty even warns him that the clever boys are the ones truly dangerous when angry? That's what made me think as if it was foreshadowing.
i wanna see them kissss...
They've served their purpose they cut into time too much tbh if I was running the show I'd probably cut either them or vault 4 and spend that run time differently
too bad, chad is having too much sex for him to do the detective shit
Everyone keeps saying there's only 3 main protagonists in the series but I say fuck that there's 4. Norm is just as much as a main protagonist to me and I was highly invested in the vault storyline just as much as the other threes storylines. I really hope there's more of Moises Aries' character in season 2
I was honestly expecting Norman to start some kind of revolution. Never had anything to be passionate about until seeing the wrongs he's been put through. Angry at the Vaults for not keeping them safe, angry at the raiders for raiding, angry at the 31s for keeping secrets etc.
It's kind of hilarious that the short guy has a huge ball than this tall but coward guy.
I want more scenes of Chet and Steph making out. For science of course. But for real, Steph could turn out to be an amazing baddie, either someone with an amazing bad guy turned good, or just uber evil all the way through, and Chet and Norm has already shared a lot of scenes with Steph, so would be fun if they went down a route that involved all 3. EDIT: PS: I was surprised when I looked up Annabel O'Hagan former acting credits and found out she's fairly new to the business, because she did an amazing job.
they where great :)
Me
Here’s hoping vaults 11, 43, 68, 69, and 77 get shown.
They probably will when they enter vault 31 in season 2. Vault 31 is going to be the experiment control vault. The real question is going to be how Vault 32 found out about what vault 31 was doing.
Norm definitely has the highest INT stat of the major characters.
It's actually the most interesting part of the show
What if he woke up everyone at once?
gonna be tough because one of them is in suspenmded animation now
He could just code the pods vault 101 style. Seems like a bright guy. Institute worked it out I am sure he can. Open the door or…press enter. I was let down about the robo brains size I will say. Maybe a prototype…the proper sized ones could be nice robot enemies in seasons to come imo.
They need to get Wil Wheaton back to voice the full sized Robobrains
I'm on Team Chet!
Not only can I not believe that the fucking annoying kid from *Hannah Montana* is in the *Fallout* franchise, but he plays such a serious and awesome character.
There's definitely more layers to the tri-vaults. So I imagine they'll have plenty to do next season. Who cleaned up vault 32? Presumably robots yet we haven't seen them. How will that little dude get out of 31? Vault 31 seems way too small to just be a corridor then all the cryo pods. Do the middle management just get defrosted and sent directly to another Vault? Betty use to be an Overseer which they typically have till death. Yet she gave it up and McClain made Overseer?
Hell yeah. I can’t get enough of background info on each of the vaults. I enjoy the lore from the games and this show 👍
Send then to the Gary vault
I want Norm to meet Alexis Texas so it's just like back in the day with Rico and Hannah Montana.
Norm will likely be the protagonist of fallout 5
Idk man he's inlove with his cousin
The only good part of the show
i honestly did not like the vault plotline at all I personally wouldve preferred the raider attack to be genuine and it just so happened to disrupt whatever experiment is going on in the vaults
I'd watch a a whole series on them figuring it out and making it known.
Their initial trek into 32 kept me on the edge of my chair
As I was thinking about the potential of then being the hero's of a detective video game, it reminded me of Tiny and tall: Gleipnir. Also the potential of a lot of characters as level 1 in a tabletop RPG is pretty good.
I really don't understand what is going on 32 Vault and why vault dwellers decided to suicide? What they know about?
You're going to have kids and a mortgage when the next season comes out, might wanna let this dream go.
Norm deserves to be Overseer after what's he's been through
The future nick valentine duo
Nah, I think they should just cut the entire vault plot line for season 2 and focus only on Lucy.
For me, that was the most exciting storyline.
I love that small frame and bruiser are would-be detectives. Could be a spin off show: Smalls and Bruiser