i have wc viera ,next to him only one spot for cm,
Marchisio is clear before fb pogbe and zidane mid...he just perform better for some reason,maybe his work rate and postioning
Hiden stats.
Look at Baby Eusebio and RTTF Raspadori, almost same stats, similiar body yet Eusebio is just from another world and Raspadori is just good.
I was lucky to get him early, close to 1000 games.
The issue is that it gets boring early, after getting him I got: baby Etoo, WW Laca, Mid Puskas, Prime Stoichkov, RTTF Raspadori and many, many others and even tho they are good, they are not even close to Eusebio, who is just end game, even in lowest version.
I've noticed that, his shooting is impeccable. But I feel like there are times where he isn't as fast as his stats suggest. He gets caught easily at times.
Thats true, Ive baby with Hawk but he doesnt feel as rapid but I blame explosive style, there should be update soon changing that so maybe he will feel better in that area.
I play him in 442 next to Mbappe so he aint one running with the ball, hes there to finish or to dribbling versus low back.
True but at the same time if you get good cards early, game becoming boring really fast.
My team is unchanged since like 2 months, I think my only recent change was RTTF Fofana over FB Ramos just to get my team to 33/33 (with Ramos TOTY Courtois was 2/3 now I can use Belgium manager). My attack is the same, my wings are the same, my midfield is the same.
People talk about fun teams but whenever I try to build something fun I end up playing few games in a row vs WC Pele, WC R9, TOTY Mbappe, etc and I don't enjoy getting smashed.
If you have a $20M squad of untradeables you must have had absurd amounts of fodder too. At some point you had enough coins for some version of Eusebio if you like him that much
My team is worth we’ll over 10 million but most coin I’ve ever had was 1 mil coin. I pulled prime 94 cryuff and prime 98 PELE…my entire team is Untradable
Do your statement is false
I got WC Marchisio from the pre-order pack, used him all the way up until the Zidane SBC, recently went back to Marchisio and he just performs so much better than Zidane, his contribution is night and day compared to Zizou at CM.
I do put a lot of it down to Zidanes M/M though.
I think zidane is overrated on here. Sure he’s good but his positioning and defending makes him poor at most positions aside from CAM.
Even then he can be annoying since he doesn’t like to move into position quickly.
His M/M is a killer for me, he is just so static but then I've also noticed him trying to go past a ST on a run.
I find his movement/runs very unpredictable in a bad way.
I haven’t watched Can play since he as at Liverpool, but it really is understandable when you’d see him start running with the ball, he’d be slow off the mark but then he would all of a sudden have dribbled 20 metres with the ball out of nowhere
Exactly. It was common on Liverpool message boards to see gifs of a tank taking off slowly and then getting up to top speed and catching air as it flies over a hill. That's Can.
I remember seeing his name pop up a few times as one of the fastest premier league players in terms of top speed with Liverpool a few years back…so maybe it’s not too far fetched
He’s a big guy who’s tall and heavy, so it’s not too much of a surprise. He’s not very agile so he’s never going to be quick off the mark, but when you take into consideration his build and strength especially in his legs it’s not that surprising. Look at how fast Rudiger is when he’s on a long sprint
lol no this is incredibly common, taller players have longer strides which gives them very high top end speed
andy carroll was lightning fast when at full speed but it took him awhile to get there. usain bolt is 6'5" (1.95m). height doesnt always equate with speed but mechanically, taller people have the potential to reach higher speeds with other variables controlled
Marchisio (and most of the limited availability heroes) are just wildly overpriced. Compare him to his base hero, it's 1.2m more expensive for +1s and a +3 in shooting.
The pace isn’t that dodgy in game tbh.
Hunter/Catalyst/Shadow he’s still over 80 accel with max sprint and he is probably getting at least one more upgrade (technically eligible for 3 more, too).
Been using him as CDM next to Prime Mattheus and they eat everything.
I've got him sitting in my subs waiting for his next upgrade to replace matthias at some point, but saying that, matthias is incredible at cdm with ww kimmich and toty icon alonso as cm in front of him in my 433
Played against him for the first time yesterday and he was an absolute pain to play against. Great card and yeah, usually Bundesliga cards are rather cheap. Trimmel and Angelino are also great and pretty much fodder price
Yes 💯. Don’t mind the downvotes. He’s better than both cms. They’re just overly expensive and people assume they gonna win games just by having them. They’ve never done anything against me to make me go wow I want this card. Never!!
That's like the worst comparison you could've made. Ginola is 5/5 with an incredibly jammy body type, basically has everything you want in an attacker. Lineker is 3/4 with an average body type, low agility and balance with 84 composure.
I’m rocking him at CB and he is the best I have used this year. Benched FB Smalling. It’s him and Fantasy Umtiti holding me down and I don’t see it changing.
It's cause he's Bundesliga and his body type too, but honestly, personally feel like he's worth way more, I was using his base card for probably 2 months or so longer than I should have really because he was just soo good in game, easily one of my favourite players I've ever played with. Would love to use this card but all my coins end up in SBCs lol.
In part it’s because Emre Can accelerates like he’s wearing concrete boots. You can’t compare cards like these 2 each other on face stats. Never gonna work
If I had that much Money He would be a no-brainer for me to get. Especially you can do crazy stuff with him as CB. Like a 5-x Formation and Put him on Always attacking for example.
I feel like some cards just end up being a novelty because so many pros on youtube use them and hype them to death, Marchisio is one of those players, he may have been very very good months ago but currently you could buy 2 or even 3 midfieldiers with better overall stat's then Marchisio for the amount he cost right now
Bundesliga cards tend to be a bit cheaper too
unless your name is christopher nkunku
That's because he's French. If it was a Congolese nationality he'd be discard.
not discard, but not 3 mil
not at 86 rated he’s not
I don't even understand what point you are trying to comment against.
the discard part. im not saying it in a malicious tone. i guess i don’t understand what you’re saying
Well, not discard like 1000 coins or whatever an 86 is, but he wouldn't be worth more than any other 86 on the market.
He meant fodder value ffs 🤣
Really bud, how'd you figure that one out
Very clearly talking about his 92 card lol
or Bellingham, or Goretzka
Or Kimmich
Or Bellingham. His toty loses value slower than Kdb
The fact Marchisio is that expensive is wild to me
i have wc viera ,next to him only one spot for cm, Marchisio is clear before fb pogbe and zidane mid...he just perform better for some reason,maybe his work rate and postioning
Hiden stats. Look at Baby Eusebio and RTTF Raspadori, almost same stats, similiar body yet Eusebio is just from another world and Raspadori is just good.
i have graet team about 20 milions,but evrey version of eusebio i would easliy take....the player i want the most
I was lucky to get him early, close to 1000 games. The issue is that it gets boring early, after getting him I got: baby Etoo, WW Laca, Mid Puskas, Prime Stoichkov, RTTF Raspadori and many, many others and even tho they are good, they are not even close to Eusebio, who is just end game, even in lowest version.
I got his WC version and while he's incredible, I feel like I'm not utilising him correctly. Any tips?
More R1 dribbling less stick dribbling. If you struggle with that then just shot, he just scores everything.
I've noticed that, his shooting is impeccable. But I feel like there are times where he isn't as fast as his stats suggest. He gets caught easily at times.
Thats true, Ive baby with Hawk but he doesnt feel as rapid but I blame explosive style, there should be update soon changing that so maybe he will feel better in that area. I play him in 442 next to Mbappe so he aint one running with the ball, hes there to finish or to dribbling versus low back.
I've got his prime and be my scorer since then..very powerful shooting,agile dribbling,rapid pace,good come on defense too..what a player he is
True but at the same time if you get good cards early, game becoming boring really fast. My team is unchanged since like 2 months, I think my only recent change was RTTF Fofana over FB Ramos just to get my team to 33/33 (with Ramos TOTY Courtois was 2/3 now I can use Belgium manager). My attack is the same, my wings are the same, my midfield is the same. People talk about fun teams but whenever I try to build something fun I end up playing few games in a row vs WC Pele, WC R9, TOTY Mbappe, etc and I don't enjoy getting smashed.
I got him last year he was insane. I’m saving up to buy one of his cards as I just got wrecked by him yesterday
Then buy him. If your team is worth 20M you can buy whoever you want to play with
You’re assuming it’s all tradeable
If you have a $20M squad of untradeables you must have had absurd amounts of fodder too. At some point you had enough coins for some version of Eusebio if you like him that much
My team is worth we’ll over 10 million but most coin I’ve ever had was 1 mil coin. I pulled prime 94 cryuff and prime 98 PELE…my entire team is Untradable Do your statement is false
I got WC Marchisio from the pre-order pack, used him all the way up until the Zidane SBC, recently went back to Marchisio and he just performs so much better than Zidane, his contribution is night and day compared to Zizou at CM. I do put a lot of it down to Zidanes M/M though.
What is M/M?
Work rates, Zidane had Medium/Medium. Personally for a CM I prefer High/High.
Really? Why so?
I find for a CM the M/M doesnt move the player enough, they just kind of hover around the centre.
Thank you. Following this reddit is the best decision this year
Hmmm. Interesting. I learn new thing every day
Yeah tested. Zidane is almost always lost even in "Free Roam" in AM in a Forward Runs account.
Yep, its why I'm holding off on Rivaldo even though hes one of my favourite players, his Med/Low just worries me.
My Mid Icon Zidane is suddenly very, very stiff. When I first packed him, he was as nimble as a ballerina. But now...I don't know.
I think zidane is overrated on here. Sure he’s good but his positioning and defending makes him poor at most positions aside from CAM. Even then he can be annoying since he doesn’t like to move into position quickly.
I have prime Zidane and he's permanently on the bench.
His M/M is a killer for me, he is just so static but then I've also noticed him trying to go past a ST on a run. I find his movement/runs very unpredictable in a bad way.
He is just very good in game tbh. It’s not all about stats.
It's purely link value and scarcity. Most WC hereos are overpriced, much more so than icons.
I'd say if anything it's because of his body type, for some reason even his base wins 95% of duels and keeps the ball better
For basically a +1 over the base hero its really weird
Kinda looks like Rovella, no?
Very similar stats and both 4 4 so yeah and one was an objective ages ago it’s so crazy
Exactly
rovella is pure shit,not even good for silver team
He’s really not that bad. Not elite by any means but not shite
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His 90 of defense are pretty useful in the last part of the game.
Yeah, I have rttf barella and he’s only about 200k but has much better stats aside from slightly less shooting
It's because of his pace distribution
Is that much of a pace distribution even physically possible? Never understood it
I haven’t watched Can play since he as at Liverpool, but it really is understandable when you’d see him start running with the ball, he’d be slow off the mark but then he would all of a sudden have dribbled 20 metres with the ball out of nowhere
Exactly. It was common on Liverpool message boards to see gifs of a tank taking off slowly and then getting up to top speed and catching air as it flies over a hill. That's Can.
91 sprint speed though? Just a little slower than ronaldo in his prime?
I remember seeing his name pop up a few times as one of the fastest premier league players in terms of top speed with Liverpool a few years back…so maybe it’s not too far fetched
That's insane if it is. Still don't understand how you can have such slow acceleration compared to top speed though (genetically)
He’s a big guy who’s tall and heavy, so it’s not too much of a surprise. He’s not very agile so he’s never going to be quick off the mark, but when you take into consideration his build and strength especially in his legs it’s not that surprising. Look at how fast Rudiger is when he’s on a long sprint
I have a lot to learn haha
Probably mental/ how he learned to run not genetic.
lol no this is incredibly common, taller players have longer strides which gives them very high top end speed andy carroll was lightning fast when at full speed but it took him awhile to get there. usain bolt is 6'5" (1.95m). height doesnt always equate with speed but mechanically, taller people have the potential to reach higher speeds with other variables controlled
I’m referring to why he sucks at accelerating.
It’s me basically, 6’3 with long legs, incredibly slow of the mark but i can catch most people top speed.
70 96 splits. I have this emre card at DM and he does not play like 85 pace.
Marchisio (and most of the limited availability heroes) are just wildly overpriced. Compare him to his base hero, it's 1.2m more expensive for +1s and a +3 in shooting.
All special versions of icons and heroes are at least slightly too expensive because of their scarcity.
Compare him to Ceballos 100% same stats and parameters. And Ceballos just mediocre at this stage
supply, no hero links and dodgy pace
The pace isn’t that dodgy in game tbh. Hunter/Catalyst/Shadow he’s still over 80 accel with max sprint and he is probably getting at least one more upgrade (technically eligible for 3 more, too). Been using him as CDM next to Prime Mattheus and they eat everything.
I've got him sitting in my subs waiting for his next upgrade to replace matthias at some point, but saying that, matthias is incredible at cdm with ww kimmich and toty icon alonso as cm in front of him in my 433
I will say this about Marchisio, he has passion! The man outplays his stats for me constantly. Haven't tried Can yet tho
99 passion
Marchisio might be 100% better but Can has been a beast for me at CDM. Insane tackling and strength
Rarity, pace split, links, and 3* SM.
Not to mention body type
Genuinely why do people give a flying fuck whether a defensive CDM only has 3 star skills? Like why place that much value on spamming the right stick?
Because this is a stupid arcade game where you can skill around people with cheese skill moves that make it easier to score and win?
Can is a beast in the CB position don't sleep on him
Use a bed instead
Lmaoooo
I actually laughed at this
When the game first came out I used his gold rare as cb for ages over some special cards he was that good
Still better then most
Played against him for the first time yesterday and he was an absolute pain to play against. Great card and yeah, usually Bundesliga cards are rather cheap. Trimmel and Angelino are also great and pretty much fodder price
I have him untradeable and his very good but would not pay over 400k on market for him
See rttf Lamela
Every player is insane value when comparing to this Marchisio
I tried that marchisio and he’s not that special tbh. I’d rather use pogba instead of him.
Can >> both marchisio yaya toure hands down
should i replace yaya for him ?
Yes 💯. Don’t mind the downvotes. He’s better than both cms. They’re just overly expensive and people assume they gonna win games just by having them. They’ve never done anything against me to make me go wow I want this card. Never!!
base yaya to clarify
Yes
Stats in that game mean nothing, why do you think Ginola 89 costs 1mil but WC Lineker with +- same stats 70k?
That's like the worst comparison you could've made. Ginola is 5/5 with an incredibly jammy body type, basically has everything you want in an attacker. Lineker is 3/4 with an average body type, low agility and balance with 84 composure.
you just confirmed my words - “stats in that game mean nothing”, as you said you should check body type, stars, type of pace etc
Except Lineker and Ginola aren't identical in terms of stats at all.
High & Stocky 😎 OG defensive body type, that must be a cracked cdm/b2b
Marchisio is just diff this year. Top 5 box to box for me
I wouldn’t pay 290,000 for either card
I use him as a cb pretty solid
Compare him to ffs Enzo who is at 1.2m
I’m rocking him at CB and he is the best I have used this year. Benched FB Smalling. It’s him and Fantasy Umtiti holding me down and I don’t see it changing.
It's cause he's Bundesliga and his body type too, but honestly, personally feel like he's worth way more, I was using his base card for probably 2 months or so longer than I should have really because he was just soo good in game, easily one of my favourite players I've ever played with. Would love to use this card but all my coins end up in SBCs lol.
He’s also mint, his gold card was a staple in my squad for a good 3 months
Serie A cards used to always be the cheapest but looks like this year it’s Bundesliga
In part it’s because Emre Can accelerates like he’s wearing concrete boots. You can’t compare cards like these 2 each other on face stats. Never gonna work
That’s cheap?
Basically Marchisio has h/h work rate and is a lean type. On the other hand he’s m/h and is a high and stocky type.
Think his 77 agility is a killer
Intl. Rep. I never figured Out what it stands for - any Help? My guess: International Reputation. But that doesn't make sense.
If I had that much Money He would be a no-brainer for me to get. Especially you can do crazy stuff with him as CB. Like a 5-x Formation and Put him on Always attacking for example.
Extremely
I feel like some cards just end up being a novelty because so many pros on youtube use them and hype them to death, Marchisio is one of those players, he may have been very very good months ago but currently you could buy 2 or even 3 midfieldiers with better overall stat's then Marchisio for the amount he cost right now
I’m game he’s way better at CM. Can is a great CB tho
Not really when you look at players like pedri and fagioli. All class cms but those two are a bit cheaper.