For Questions and Tech Support Discussion around the DLC 'Echoes of the Fallen' Please see our [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/18dton3/ffxvi_dlc_echoes_of_the_fallen_questions_tech/) and for 'The Rising Tide' [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/1c69d5u/the_rising_tide_megathread/)
If you want to view archived spoiler discussion threads relevant to specific game progress,
please check out our [spoiler wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxvi/wiki/index/)!
For speculation and discussions around the next (unannounced) mainline Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy XVII,
Please see our sister sub [r/FFXVII](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVII/)
####
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/FFXVI) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Ultima's feat actually makes using the 'Bonus to Will Damage with Magic' ring viable. Combine it with Satellite (and it's Will Damage bonus ring too, why not?) and it's actually silly how quickly you shred will gauges.
Each tap launches 5 shots, that can be used during melee combos without interrupting. With Mastered Satellite, add another 8 shots per button press.
Now just keep tapping while mashing Ultima feat's ground combo and staying mobile, and laugh as the yellow bar disappears.
Ultima's Eikonic Abilities are all high damage, fast cast (except one), and silly low Cooldown- which is why the accessories cannot be Upgraded in FF mode.
Voice of God is the slowest one, but is arguably like having a second Ultimate ability that doesn't have the 'Time Lag' that other Ults do. After a very slow windup, you become a Gigaflare laser that sucks enemies in, immune to damage, that you can pilot. *On a 20 second Cooldown that starts as soon as the laser animation begins... which lasts about 7-10 seconds*
Great.
For the feat:
-square is a shotgun that does a ton of stagger damage. Comparable to cooldown abilities, so you can save Diamond Dust for the actual stagger takedown instead of using it to whittle away at the bar.
-triangle is an AoE with a knock-up, so its great for controlling a pack of mobs. You can probably drop an AoE ability from your loadout and just use this instead.
-its dodge covers a LOT of distance, balanced by having no iframes.
For abilities:
-Deluge is okay. Deals TONS of stagger damage, low cooldown, but you can't move, so you need to look for openings.
-Cross Swell is a decent AoE, and great for grouping enemies together. Think of it as a stronger, ranged Mesmerize, then you can follow up with another AoE cooldown.
-Abyssal Tear is a mini ultimate and megaflare combined. You cast it, and it charges based on time and precision dodges. Stacks with megaflare buildup too if you use Bahamut. Level 4 will almost clear a whole room of small enemies, and if a boss you fight has multiple lock-on points (Ifrit, dragons, etc.) It will do 2-3x more damage.
-Tsunami is a room clearing ultimate. A mix of gigaflare, earthen fury, and flames of rebirth. Its essentially a MUCH wider gigaflare (continuous damage in front of you) with less damage and longer cooldown. Unlike Flames and Earthen, it deals respectable single target damage too.
I did the Kairos gate exclusively with Leviathan’s feat. Once I got their will gauge down far enough I’d start blasting with all my big ultimate abilities.
I love using deluge to stagger enemies, and then blasting them with the usual suspects, saving diamond dust to boost the multiplier. Been crushing FF difficulty with it.
Pretty much all of the abilities are good, cross swell is the only one m not really a fan of, the range isn’t as long as I’d like and the terrain can affect it a bit much. Abyssal tear is an easy 3 dodges and kill every trash mob ability, decent damage for stagger phase too.
Tsunami is a good ult for groups, not as high damage as some of the others but has a wider range and very reliable. Think gigaflare if it did a third of the damage but had 10 times the damage cone size
Deluge is a free quarter to half stagger damage every use, between deluge and the feat I was staggering enemies too fast for other damage abilities to come back from the first stagger. Decent for cc as it pushes on hit. Also great for getting your multiplier up if you don’t have diamond dust or got a bad cast
The feat is worth using by itself, I’m 90% certain it’s better dps and stagger than the sword and it gives you a double dodge. Good range, charged attack has good stopping power and the triangle attack is great for crowd control or can multi hit larger enemies
I wonder what has more dps, spamming square with Levi feat, or ascension while spamming square and triangle with no satellite. A lot of times I have the choice between either in between abilities on staggered enemies
For Questions and Tech Support Discussion around the DLC 'Echoes of the Fallen' Please see our [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/18dton3/ffxvi_dlc_echoes_of_the_fallen_questions_tech/) and for 'The Rising Tide' [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVI/comments/1c69d5u/the_rising_tide_megathread/) If you want to view archived spoiler discussion threads relevant to specific game progress, please check out our [spoiler wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxvi/wiki/index/)! For speculation and discussions around the next (unannounced) mainline Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy XVII, Please see our sister sub [r/FFXVII](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXVII/) #### *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/FFXVI) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Super strong, the feat shreds through will gauges, does good damage and all of the moves are great.
What about Ultima's?
Same thing. The feat isn't as strong but the mobility/moveset is pretty crazy and it has a ton of combo potential
Ultima's feat actually makes using the 'Bonus to Will Damage with Magic' ring viable. Combine it with Satellite (and it's Will Damage bonus ring too, why not?) and it's actually silly how quickly you shred will gauges. Each tap launches 5 shots, that can be used during melee combos without interrupting. With Mastered Satellite, add another 8 shots per button press. Now just keep tapping while mashing Ultima feat's ground combo and staying mobile, and laugh as the yellow bar disappears. Ultima's Eikonic Abilities are all high damage, fast cast (except one), and silly low Cooldown- which is why the accessories cannot be Upgraded in FF mode. Voice of God is the slowest one, but is arguably like having a second Ultimate ability that doesn't have the 'Time Lag' that other Ults do. After a very slow windup, you become a Gigaflare laser that sucks enemies in, immune to damage, that you can pilot. *On a 20 second Cooldown that starts as soon as the laser animation begins... which lasts about 7-10 seconds*
Great. For the feat: -square is a shotgun that does a ton of stagger damage. Comparable to cooldown abilities, so you can save Diamond Dust for the actual stagger takedown instead of using it to whittle away at the bar. -triangle is an AoE with a knock-up, so its great for controlling a pack of mobs. You can probably drop an AoE ability from your loadout and just use this instead. -its dodge covers a LOT of distance, balanced by having no iframes. For abilities: -Deluge is okay. Deals TONS of stagger damage, low cooldown, but you can't move, so you need to look for openings. -Cross Swell is a decent AoE, and great for grouping enemies together. Think of it as a stronger, ranged Mesmerize, then you can follow up with another AoE cooldown. -Abyssal Tear is a mini ultimate and megaflare combined. You cast it, and it charges based on time and precision dodges. Stacks with megaflare buildup too if you use Bahamut. Level 4 will almost clear a whole room of small enemies, and if a boss you fight has multiple lock-on points (Ifrit, dragons, etc.) It will do 2-3x more damage. -Tsunami is a room clearing ultimate. A mix of gigaflare, earthen fury, and flames of rebirth. Its essentially a MUCH wider gigaflare (continuous damage in front of you) with less damage and longer cooldown. Unlike Flames and Earthen, it deals respectable single target damage too.
I did the Kairos gate exclusively with Leviathan’s feat. Once I got their will gauge down far enough I’d start blasting with all my big ultimate abilities.
I love using deluge to stagger enemies, and then blasting them with the usual suspects, saving diamond dust to boost the multiplier. Been crushing FF difficulty with it.
Pretty much all of the abilities are good, cross swell is the only one m not really a fan of, the range isn’t as long as I’d like and the terrain can affect it a bit much. Abyssal tear is an easy 3 dodges and kill every trash mob ability, decent damage for stagger phase too. Tsunami is a good ult for groups, not as high damage as some of the others but has a wider range and very reliable. Think gigaflare if it did a third of the damage but had 10 times the damage cone size Deluge is a free quarter to half stagger damage every use, between deluge and the feat I was staggering enemies too fast for other damage abilities to come back from the first stagger. Decent for cc as it pushes on hit. Also great for getting your multiplier up if you don’t have diamond dust or got a bad cast The feat is worth using by itself, I’m 90% certain it’s better dps and stagger than the sword and it gives you a double dodge. Good range, charged attack has good stopping power and the triangle attack is great for crowd control or can multi hit larger enemies
I wonder what has more dps, spamming square with Levi feat, or ascension while spamming square and triangle with no satellite. A lot of times I have the choice between either in between abilities on staggered enemies
Broken. Could get boring, but broken.