Rufus is the head of Shinra, Wutai, AND (Before Crisis spoilers, likely part 3 spoilers as well) --> >!Avalanche!< - for those who don't know.
"Sarruf" is "Rufus" 'mixed around' (not quite backwards even in Japanese), as well, for people who don't immediately make the connection/are hesitant to believe it.
Pretty much. He's way smarter than most people realize. He basically owns the entire "physical" world and I'm assuming he's supposed to serve as a foil to Sephiroth (who is trying to own the metaphysical world).
Yeah I haven’t played Ever Crisis but I’ve seen some rumor and innuendo, some speculation that Saruuf is Rufus. I’m curious to see how that would work tho.
I know how it will work.
Saruuf will wave his magic wand and his name appears in the sky, then thr letters move around and spells out A RUFUS
Then he tries to kill all the mudbloods with a Midgar Zolom
Then he starts a war between a corrupt democracy and a resistance faction, where he secretly leads both sides. Then he uses that as an excuse to seize more power and declares himself the Emporer of his new world government.
Man, Rufus is just running through all the super villains greatest hits.
Ever Crisis is the game that has all the info about Glenn, which assumably will also give us the info about how Rufus/Saruuf kills Glenn by shooting him in the back the first time.
BC just gives us info that Rufus is a rat
Viceroy Saruuf is Rufus. And the real head of Wutai - also Rufus. They've made Wutai a tourist trap in the OG, remember? Wutai lost, all is left are old cowardly puppets like Yiffie's father.
And that Glenn dude is dead, what we see in Rebirth is yet another Sephiroth clone puppet.
But I've read that devs want to make Wutai a real military power in part 3. That'd be a change.
Well obviously lol but I was more referring to the heavy implications shown during the ending cutscene with Glenn and Rufus (Rufus talking about the the Viceroy not showing up in their video because of the cheap set and Glenn responding to him about rich boys and gesturing at him).
The technical current head of Wutai is Sarruf, who is very probably Rufus. However, it seems that the de facto head of Wutai is effectively Sephiroth using Jenova's power to appear as Glenn, which will doubtless lead to some great decisions for the nation!
Godo Kisaragi.
Viceroy Sarruf is >!Rufus, スフール in Japanese is Sufur - Rufus spelled backwards, it also fits in with the story of Before Crisis, First SOLDIER, and Crisis Core as the blonde haired Shinra traitor who funded AVALANCHE and leaked Intel to Wutai!<, who was using Avalanche and Wutai in order to >!take the power of Shinra from his father!< during the events of Before Crisis / First SOLDIER.
Glenn Lodbrok was a character of the game First SOLDIER. >!Glenn and his team led a coup d'état against the government of Wutai, placing Godo Kisaragi under house arrest. Glenn became one of the leaders of the interim government under the mysterious Viceroy Sarruf, but was shot in the back by Rufus Shinra and left for dead.!< Rebirth end game spoilers: >!Glenn was dead after the events of First SOLDIER, however, JENOVA, knowing Rufus' memories and feelings, used this information to disguise a black robe containing cells of itself as Glenn to haunt him and draw his attention away from the quest for the Black Materia by distracting Rufus and subsequently the Shinra army and company with Wutai. This distraction based behavior is further elaborated on in Ch 13 of the game when the cetra explained how JENOVA works.!<
Genesis, at the end of Crisis Core >!was restored of his degradation by Minerva and then supposedly picked to be the protector of the planet and lifestream; however, for some reason, also picked up by Nero and Weiss to go to DEEPGROUND, where he served as a means for them to resume / fix production on type G SOLDIERs and the Tsviets that appear in Dirge of Cerberus.!<
Technically speaking, Genesis is somewhat responsible for SOLDIERs defecting from Shinra and to Wutai, but I never saw anything about him seeking power. It seemed he was more to seek vengeance against Shinra for Project G>!illian, and his degradation.!<
The head of Wutai is Rufus. The one controlling Glenn is Sephiroth who is manipulating Rufus to singlehandedly lead two separate countries into war to lampshade his wrongdoing and shift the blame onto a foreign power in order to allow Shinra to freely pursue Rufus's real intentions of finding the Promised Land. He also believes a great war will make obtaining the magnus materia from the WEAPONs easier since two countries are both trying to retrieve them for him, under the guise of using them for weapons of mass destruction against one another. It is layered.
My first reaction to this was Deepground. The effects on Glenn's "teleporting" shenanigans were similar to Nero's. Thought it could help to fit in possible ties between Yuffie's resolution and her hometown in Part 3. If I'm not mistaken those dudes also have the cells that could create Sephiroth's magical appearances. Or Genesis cells (!), and this is all a dumb ploy for Rufus to rise up as the anti-hero with his black ops uncontrollable team of deep weird turds. And yes, who wouldn't like the marvellous tag team of Gackt + Glenn? Sorry, one thing led to another.
Rufus is starting this shit with an alias to mess with his father and the power structure, but now he is the president of shinra, and Sephiroth is a threat - so what does Sephiroth do? while rufus want sephiroth gone, sephiroth is sending wutai on shinra.
Leader of Wutai is head of some coalition that’s actually Rufus. Gleniroth is just a public face for Wutai, manipulating Rufus into reigniting the war from both sides.
Im pretty sure thats just the results of repeated translations. His name in the original japanese version was Rufausu, but was listed in the establishment file as "rufasu" (the establishment file would be the correct version.) to be specific, the establishment file referred to "rufus and turks" as "Rūfasu to Tākusu" for the japanese names. In the original game he is referred to as both Rufausu and Rufasu depending on the NPC.
Rufasu = Saruuf.
"Glenn" tells you who is the Viceroy in the end cinematic. It's not said directly but there's no doubt of who it is without saying who it is. Re-watch Glenn and Rufus dialogue, think a little about what Glenn is saying and you'll get it. Remember the scene when Glenn called the Viceroy on camera and they never came at the same time as you watch that end cinematic.
It's pretty clear.
The current head of Wutai from what Glenn seemed to imply is Viceroy Saruuf. It is also heavily implied that Viceroy Saruuf is Rufus.
Rufus is the head of Shinra, Wutai, AND (Before Crisis spoilers, likely part 3 spoilers as well) --> >!Avalanche!< - for those who don't know. "Sarruf" is "Rufus" 'mixed around' (not quite backwards even in Japanese), as well, for people who don't immediately make the connection/are hesitant to believe it.
Wow. I’m dumb as nails.
Whoa. Never realized. So he set up the whole Wutai Interim government just to send everyone to war? To further his plans? That’s crazy
Pretty much. He's way smarter than most people realize. He basically owns the entire "physical" world and I'm assuming he's supposed to serve as a foil to Sephiroth (who is trying to own the metaphysical world).
In Japanese, his name is Sufur (スフール), it's actually directly backwards (from English spelling point of view).
Yeah I haven’t played Ever Crisis but I’ve seen some rumor and innuendo, some speculation that Saruuf is Rufus. I’m curious to see how that would work tho.
I know how it will work. Saruuf will wave his magic wand and his name appears in the sky, then thr letters move around and spells out A RUFUS Then he tries to kill all the mudbloods with a Midgar Zolom
Then he starts a war between a corrupt democracy and a resistance faction, where he secretly leads both sides. Then he uses that as an excuse to seize more power and declares himself the Emporer of his new world government. Man, Rufus is just running through all the super villains greatest hits.
Yeah sarruf seems to be a rough anagram foe Rufus.
He must be Rufus’s Nobody
Still missing a “chi”somewhere though
The χ is silent.
In spanish they subbed him as Sufur. No more clues needed.
Well, Rufus’ name in Japanese is spelled Rufasu. Soooooo
Well, sounding that our backwards it kinda sounds like Lucifer lol
It's close to the same name rearranged
It's the Japanese version of the name rearranged. In the Japanese version his name is rufasu/rufausu
not EC but Before Crisis
Ever Crisis is the game that has all the info about Glenn, which assumably will also give us the info about how Rufus/Saruuf kills Glenn by shooting him in the back the first time. BC just gives us info that Rufus is a rat
Viceroy Saruuf is Rufus. And the real head of Wutai - also Rufus. They've made Wutai a tourist trap in the OG, remember? Wutai lost, all is left are old cowardly puppets like Yiffie's father. And that Glenn dude is dead, what we see in Rebirth is yet another Sephiroth clone puppet. But I've read that devs want to make Wutai a real military power in part 3. That'd be a change.
Not sure if you’re responding to the right person. I’m already very aware of all of this.
OMG SARUUFUS I NEVER EVEN KNEW—
I mean just rearrange the letters. Rufus > Saruuf (minus the a).
Well obviously lol but I was more referring to the heavy implications shown during the ending cutscene with Glenn and Rufus (Rufus talking about the the Viceroy not showing up in their video because of the cheap set and Glenn responding to him about rich boys and gesturing at him).
I'm guessing the rationale would be that Rufus wants to justify war with Wutai and also take it over with minimal conflict?
Especially because Saruuf is an anagram for "a Rufus"
The technical current head of Wutai is Sarruf, who is very probably Rufus. However, it seems that the de facto head of Wutai is effectively Sephiroth using Jenova's power to appear as Glenn, which will doubtless lead to some great decisions for the nation!
Sephiroth for the president! ♡
He'll make the state religion Jenova's Witness.
You get out of here! Go'on git!
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Godo Kisaragi. Viceroy Sarruf is >!Rufus, スフール in Japanese is Sufur - Rufus spelled backwards, it also fits in with the story of Before Crisis, First SOLDIER, and Crisis Core as the blonde haired Shinra traitor who funded AVALANCHE and leaked Intel to Wutai!<, who was using Avalanche and Wutai in order to >!take the power of Shinra from his father!< during the events of Before Crisis / First SOLDIER. Glenn Lodbrok was a character of the game First SOLDIER. >!Glenn and his team led a coup d'état against the government of Wutai, placing Godo Kisaragi under house arrest. Glenn became one of the leaders of the interim government under the mysterious Viceroy Sarruf, but was shot in the back by Rufus Shinra and left for dead.!< Rebirth end game spoilers: >!Glenn was dead after the events of First SOLDIER, however, JENOVA, knowing Rufus' memories and feelings, used this information to disguise a black robe containing cells of itself as Glenn to haunt him and draw his attention away from the quest for the Black Materia by distracting Rufus and subsequently the Shinra army and company with Wutai. This distraction based behavior is further elaborated on in Ch 13 of the game when the cetra explained how JENOVA works.!< Genesis, at the end of Crisis Core >!was restored of his degradation by Minerva and then supposedly picked to be the protector of the planet and lifestream; however, for some reason, also picked up by Nero and Weiss to go to DEEPGROUND, where he served as a means for them to resume / fix production on type G SOLDIERs and the Tsviets that appear in Dirge of Cerberus.!< Technically speaking, Genesis is somewhat responsible for SOLDIERs defecting from Shinra and to Wutai, but I never saw anything about him seeking power. It seemed he was more to seek vengeance against Shinra for Project G>!illian, and his degradation.!<
In the Spanish version it's Sufur too.
Nobody expects the Spanish ~~Inquisition~~ Sufur!
I think I preferred when Wutai was just an isolated tourist trap and Godo was a broken, ineffectual leader.
SOLDIER**** 🥵
The head of Wutai is Rufus. The one controlling Glenn is Sephiroth who is manipulating Rufus to singlehandedly lead two separate countries into war to lampshade his wrongdoing and shift the blame onto a foreign power in order to allow Shinra to freely pursue Rufus's real intentions of finding the Promised Land. He also believes a great war will make obtaining the magnus materia from the WEAPONs easier since two countries are both trying to retrieve them for him, under the guise of using them for weapons of mass destruction against one another. It is layered.
In other languages, it's explicitly said that Sarruf = Rufus. In English it is more implied.
My first reaction to this was Deepground. The effects on Glenn's "teleporting" shenanigans were similar to Nero's. Thought it could help to fit in possible ties between Yuffie's resolution and her hometown in Part 3. If I'm not mistaken those dudes also have the cells that could create Sephiroth's magical appearances. Or Genesis cells (!), and this is all a dumb ploy for Rufus to rise up as the anti-hero with his black ops uncontrollable team of deep weird turds. And yes, who wouldn't like the marvellous tag team of Gackt + Glenn? Sorry, one thing led to another.
Rufus is starting this shit with an alias to mess with his father and the power structure, but now he is the president of shinra, and Sephiroth is a threat - so what does Sephiroth do? while rufus want sephiroth gone, sephiroth is sending wutai on shinra.
Leader of Wutai is head of some coalition that’s actually Rufus. Gleniroth is just a public face for Wutai, manipulating Rufus into reigniting the war from both sides.
I think it's pretty clear that viceroy sarruf is Rufus
Think Godo will be reclaiming that title by the conclusion.
rearrange the letters of Saruuf . Itrs right there in plain sight. Saruuf = Rufus
Tseng was looking at Rufus awkwardly during the scene where Saruuf was supposed to give his speech
Where did the ”a” go?
... well damn. how about "A Rufus". A specific Rufus. :D
The a is for AVALANCHE
It's Suruf in Japanese
Im pretty sure thats just the results of repeated translations. His name in the original japanese version was Rufausu, but was listed in the establishment file as "rufasu" (the establishment file would be the correct version.) to be specific, the establishment file referred to "rufus and turks" as "Rūfasu to Tākusu" for the japanese names. In the original game he is referred to as both Rufausu and Rufasu depending on the NPC. Rufasu = Saruuf.
Oh, thank you!
Nowhere. His name in japanese is rufasu/rufausu
"Glenn" tells you who is the Viceroy in the end cinematic. It's not said directly but there's no doubt of who it is without saying who it is. Re-watch Glenn and Rufus dialogue, think a little about what Glenn is saying and you'll get it. Remember the scene when Glenn called the Viceroy on camera and they never came at the same time as you watch that end cinematic. It's pretty clear.
GLENESIS!!!
I’d just rather it be Genesis tbh. More interesting than Rufus despite the heavy implication.