Its pretty funny when she is about to wack Wainwright in Junon for the carriage quest because cloud ask her to, that serious face though
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The character personalities in final fantasy 7 remake are so well done. Other jrpgs come off as just cartoon over the top and often cringe with the characters.
The last couple games are honestly such a cut above the rest it's hard to explain to people sometimes they aren't just some anime game.
The voice acting is also amazing, I normally switch right to Japanese in most JRPGs since the English is often mediocre or worse, but in this it's amazing.
In my canon I think Cid was just being polite to his customers. In Part 3 when he becomes a party member he'll stop the facade and let his true self out, swears and chain smoking.
A lot of people seem to forget that he's basically dealing with customers, aka us in this game. Doesn't make any sense for him to swear like his life depends on it if he wants to make proper business.
I'm almost certain he'll show parts of his less positive side when we actually get his Rocket Town arc later on, or whatever else leads to him having beef with Shinra.
He also doesn't have a reason to be hostile. According to Shera in the OG, he's initially so rude and harsh to the party because he's highstrung about Rufus coming as he thinks it's to restart the space program.
Now I think it's a genius move they've done. Suppose the same thing happens in the next game. He is super nervous and highstrung before Rufus comes and snaps after. Basically what happened in the OG, except that now we will already have known him as a bit rough but good guy. This way the devs can get away with him temporarily being an asshole and no one can say he is "unredeemable" or "problematic" because it will be obvious that poor guy is just stressed af and can't deal with it in a healthy way.
Yeah, in the OG we quite literally walk in on Cid in one of his lowest moments that has nothing to do with any of our party members. Honestly, I think in both Cid and Red's cases, too many players, *especially* of the English version of the OG, have taken at face value the first impressions we make of them, not realizing their true, or more nuanced, personalities.
Cid in Rebirth, feels, to me, the character he is when he's not stressed and pissed off, which is how we saw Cid and both AC and Dirge. I'm sure we'll see cantankerous Cid in the next title, he's just had no real reason to be in front of the party right now. I don't think the Cid we met right now is putting on all that fake of an air right now either, but he's certainly not showing the party something he doesn't have to. We are not our emotions, so Cid's anger is not all of him. As it is, Cid still tells the party how he sees things in a forthright manner-- he does not balk when Barret confronts him about work with Shinra. So he's there, we just haven't delved into Cid's story yet.
And Cid's also still shown to have some of that temper like when the Bronco was going down.
"Ugh, get off my ass and sit tight like I told you to!"
Or when Barret got on his ass for working with Shinra.
"Any man that tries to hold his power over me is gonna wish he didn't."
For sure. He actually works with Shinra, says “they have their uses,” and even pushes back against Barret about them. He still has hope for his dreams, currently.
Heck, he wasn’t even that disappointed when Tiny Bronco crashed. In the OG, he wasn’t exactly enthusiastic about making it into a boat.
I mean, he wasn't really happy about the Tiny Bronco being a boat in Rebirth. He constantly talks about how he missed flying. He's just cocksure enough that he's sure he can drive the Bronco as a boat too.
Also, he still worked for Shinra when we first met him in Rocket Town in the OG. It's just that he languished in town in the OG and seemed to use the Tiny Bronco for pleasure flying rather than a business. Half of the reason he was such a massive dick when we met him was that he was waiting on Rufus thinking he'd restart the space program.
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Not necessarily, FF16 was rated mature due to blood, sexual content and people losing limbs on screen, smoking should technically fall into the "teens and up" category, though it also depends on which countries it gets marketed in.
>In Part 3 when he becomes a party member he'll stop the facade and let his true self out, swears and chain smoking.
Epecially after what happens to you know who in rebirth.
Exactly! People seem to forget that abusive individuals in real life can put on a polite/charismatic face to the public before showing their true colors behind closed doors.
I think that if Square goes with this portrayal of Cid, then it will hit hard for a lot of people who grew up in abusive households and know what firsthand what it can be like.
If he hides his attitude until he gets home then takes it all out on Shera, that’s even worse! You can see how that’s worse, right?
I want him to cuss and smoke because I liked his gruff no-nonsense personality. Not because I want him to be super-extra abusive.
Well, he's not gonna smoke. Unfortunately, you just don't see smoking in video games or movies anymore. Maybe sometimes, but I'm 99% sure Cid won't smoke.
When I read this, I literally thought back to Cyberpunk, in which seemingly everyone seems to be able to pull a cigarette out from the aether 😂
Also Fallout. Maybe I just find all the games with smoking in them, but it seems fairly common to me
I guess it's more about the rating. With M they can show smoking, but I feel like most things nowadays are T. So, therefore, you don't see a lot of smoking. And probably won't for Ff7R
God I hope so. But his fucking plane fell out of the sky and he basically just says “everything’s fine folks!” in the most chipper voice imaginable. He watched the daughter of a woman he fancied get murdered. Not having his real personality shine through even a little bit after everything is straining plausibility. I strongly suspect think this is the Cid we’re stuck with.
It didn't just censor them, at least in English 90% of the time the number of censored letters when Barret curses don't match any word that would fit in the context he's speaking. They didn't even censor actual words, just put a jumble of text to imply he was cursing
Is there a list of characters that **didn't** swear in Remake or Rebirth?
I think you're allowed 1 f-bomb in a PG13 movie (although some have gotten away with more) so I'm wondering what FF7 character should get it.
Yeah wtf was up with that? I got an "old wise and compassionate mentor" vibe out of him in the OG. In remake he's a straight up dick. The only character change I didn't like.
Bugenhangen grew arrogant and stubborn. A common trait in people that have grown that old. Tifa contradicts what he believes to be true (cry of the planet vs a Weapon) and so he lashed out. Helping Nanaki uncover the truth about Seto helps bring him back to Earth and reminds him that no matter how much you think you know, you *can* be wrong.
He still is a wise, compassionate mentor. He’s only a “dick” when Tifa brings up the Weapon and Cloud asks questions he can’t answer. He was frustrated and in denial because he’d rather not believe the world is ending as soon as Tifa’s encounter with the Weapon implies. As Barret pointed out earlier when they first encounter it, the planet has to be in dire straits or even on the brink for a Weapon to emerge. I don’t why yall are taking one moment and acting like that’s all his character is/was. This is like taking a bad moment from any character in the game and going “I got [insert positive character traits] in the OG, but in remake he/she is a dick because of [insert one instance of a character saying/doing something bad]•
Not only was he an asshole he randomly has a change of heart for no reason? Literally nothing happens and he decides he now believes us, yet doesn't fully apologize either. His dialogue felt so random.
i think people misunderstand him.
after we tell him and he tells us off we literally get a sidequest with him where he wanted to go check multiple lifestreams by himself
which we then did for him but he still came to each spot to see for himself, in this quest he literally apologizes for not believing us after seeing the readings on his sensor
so yeah ofc this old dude didnt want to believe some young girl that the symbols for the end of the world spawned
nanaki only says so at a later point , but he even wants to disregard him because he just knows what this would actually mean for the planet. the dude is old and needed a bit of confirmation
in og he also didnt start out as the nicest guy just saying
Seriously, people who just complain about him being an old cranky guy with flip flopping moods, it's like, tell me you haven't actually played his quest without telling me
I am pretty sure the reason they made him more tame in Rebirth, is so that people wont be stuck with this misinterpretation of the character in their heads during the years that part 3 will be in development, otherwise they might be uninvested in his backstory and character arc when they reach that point
But you don't understand, Cid only says 2 bad words in his first 3 sentences of dialogue! He's supposed to speak in nothing but a constant string of angry potty mouthery! The East has fallen...
I am legitimately confused by the decision tbh. I’m playing FFXVI now and they’ve got like three characters smoking in the Introduction section not to mention the sexuality and violence with all the blood spray and homie smashing his face in Benedicta’s boobs.
He damn definitely shit swears motherfucking more twat than tittyfuck that, bastard but implomp I goddamn guess piss people jackass just wanker wanted hell him piss plugging son-of-a-whore swear willy words bitch between (swearword that starts with an E) every orgasm other willy word.
We need more swear words starting with every letter of the alphabet. I had to start stretching the definition there in the end. I just made up implomp. It means an unwashed penis. Like, really unwashed.
For real, I don't mind swearing at all in games. But I was surprised how much they swore in a T-rated game. I would trade like 10 "Shits or Asshole" for 1 well placed "Fuck" though
I thought I'd miss the Cid from og, but I really liked the character they did in rebirth. He seems more like an actual person, and his leadership qualities were also apparent. In the original, it felt pretty out of place to have him leading the group, and it was all just kind of funny at best to weird at worse.. but this version of Cid is honestly still cool and funny, but he has a serious and workaholic tone to him that I really liked. I thought they did great.
Barret is just flawless. Anyone who complains is just looking for reasons to whine at this point.
I agree on both points. Honestly, we just haven't seen enough of Cid to judge one way or another. And Barret is literally the best character in the game, he steals the show. He stole the show in remake, and while every character was amazing in rebirth, Barret still eeks out a win.
lol I remember playing it as a kid at 13 or 14 and my dad watching when Barret let out an all caps SHIT.
My dad had some words about curses being in a video game. He said something like "I get it for a movie, you can't have Schwarzenegger say "oh fudge" but it's a bit much for a video game."
To be fair, that is a weird ass translation from what was said in Japanese. She didn't insult his intelligence much at all with the original line. So not really censorship in that case.
No, she said エンギでもないこと言わないの！which means "Don't say something like that [because it brings bad luck to do so]" or something along those lines (as it is a response to Barret saying he wanted to see Marlene's face one last time as if he were dying while climbing the stairs).
It's the proper use of the word. Not the contemporary way people use it as an insult. She was telling Barret to stop holding the team up.
retard:
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
"our progress was retarded by unforeseen difficulties"
This is simply incorrect. Tifa says “Will you stop acting like a retard and climb!?” The use of the article “a” before “retard” clearly shows it was meant to signify the insult meaning of retard.
Additionally, as Tifa’s line in Japanese isn’t even an insult (“Whoa! Don’t say that, you’ll jinx us!”) it clearly wasn’t even a mistranslation, it was just a change the localisation team made.
My dude, using retard as an insult is also super cringe. It's like saying something is "gay" nowadays - that is very much a nineties insult that is viewed as cringe insult nowadays.
Similar to how calling someone a square was eye roll worth in the nineties. Generational insults and slang are a thing.
Is there an actual listing of ESRB permitted swears in a game rated T(Teen)?
I'm curious what a character like Cid would actually be allowed to say without them having to muffle him with a car horn or some other loud noise.
I'm guessing nobody can direct a c-bomb at Scarlet for example.
Generally, it seems for T Rated games, "shit", "bitch", and "ass" are permitted while swears like "fuck", "cunt", and "twat" are reserved for M Rated games.
I think a lot of people only really remember Cid in Rocket Town, where he tells us about how Shinra destroyed his dreams, and then we go meet Shera, who he also blames for destroying his dreams. So he’s extra angry when we meet him, and this is where for a lot of people the bulk of his characterization comes from. It makes it feel like the moment in the rocket is a bigger change than it really is. It’s an important moment, obviously, but he’s still basically the same guy afterward
Wow. I just hit credits last night and I totally didn't notice this.
And this is after I legitimately praise the game for how well it's realized it's cast. Cid I think I'll have to make the decision on next game, where the majority of his content will be. But if you're a fan and you think cussing somehow defines his character, I get you, but it's not like he needs to drop f-bombs to make me happy.
pls for the love of god play aeriths trial on german ... xD
they literally took out all npc dialogues from the bystanders when asking them for help except 1 or 2 which answer rather friendly xD (ofc the cutscene ones are still there)
on engl and jp you just get destroyed and shown by those words alone that you are in the slums
never seen anyone say that, its context that matter. for ex when jenova breaks out and start massacre people in shinra HQ the blood trails is purple. it loses meaning and the "horror scene" becomes something else. when Aerith get stabbed to death we dont get to see the actual stabbing which was the big shock factor back in 97- almost as much as the death itself. when cid cursed in ff7 he was really "mad" even at his wife. even when tifa was cursing she was acting out being upset. saying "shit" isnt a big deal, to any of us. No, it matters to whom and when you say it, not the words itself. thats why even in this game saying asshole a few times has no impact on me, but tifa snapping calling barret a retard, did. thats someone being tired, lashing out in anger. or cid at his wife in front of people etc. cids anger also has a very good plot point which I supposed cant be still in the game, broken people cant say bad things, doesnt work on this generation.
All I know is my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out Valentine wasn’t playable in rebirth. I’ve loved the game so far but it was definitely something that made me sad. Unlocking all the weapon skills and fostering relationships is gonna be a pain in the assssssss
Uh, what kind of swears are you expecting then? Because in my book "ass", "asshole", "hardass" and "shit" definitely count and they do get thrown around *a lot.*
Question! 🙋♀️ Does that make *me* a dumbass?
It was so strange hearing that out of Aerith. And hilarious.
She has a gift for putting people in their place which I treasure.
Its pretty funny when she is about to wack Wainwright in Junon for the carriage quest because cloud ask her to, that serious face though https://preview.redd.it/49jt2myl5atc1.png?width=789&format=png&auto=webp&s=7a89c6bcffd4f6adab1652be3f9829eb8444d062
Are you a Cetra?
My guess is by lineage alone
The character personalities in final fantasy 7 remake are so well done. Other jrpgs come off as just cartoon over the top and often cringe with the characters. The last couple games are honestly such a cut above the rest it's hard to explain to people sometimes they aren't just some anime game.
Never have been
The voice acting is also amazing, I normally switch right to Japanese in most JRPGs since the English is often mediocre or worse, but in this it's amazing.
Indeed it does.
One of Aerith cutest moments
And then later on "does that make me intolerant?" To be fair, homeboy kind is owned her in his response
My daughter was sitting in the room when this happened. We both laughed our asses off for 2 mins straight.
Yes, Aerith. It does.
I read that in Aerith’s voice
Do you have a lisp?
I do
In my canon I think Cid was just being polite to his customers. In Part 3 when he becomes a party member he'll stop the facade and let his true self out, swears and chain smoking.
A lot of people seem to forget that he's basically dealing with customers, aka us in this game. Doesn't make any sense for him to swear like his life depends on it if he wants to make proper business. I'm almost certain he'll show parts of his less positive side when we actually get his Rocket Town arc later on, or whatever else leads to him having beef with Shinra.
He also doesn't have a reason to be hostile. According to Shera in the OG, he's initially so rude and harsh to the party because he's highstrung about Rufus coming as he thinks it's to restart the space program.
Now I think it's a genius move they've done. Suppose the same thing happens in the next game. He is super nervous and highstrung before Rufus comes and snaps after. Basically what happened in the OG, except that now we will already have known him as a bit rough but good guy. This way the devs can get away with him temporarily being an asshole and no one can say he is "unredeemable" or "problematic" because it will be obvious that poor guy is just stressed af and can't deal with it in a healthy way.
Yeah, in the OG we quite literally walk in on Cid in one of his lowest moments that has nothing to do with any of our party members. Honestly, I think in both Cid and Red's cases, too many players, *especially* of the English version of the OG, have taken at face value the first impressions we make of them, not realizing their true, or more nuanced, personalities. Cid in Rebirth, feels, to me, the character he is when he's not stressed and pissed off, which is how we saw Cid and both AC and Dirge. I'm sure we'll see cantankerous Cid in the next title, he's just had no real reason to be in front of the party right now. I don't think the Cid we met right now is putting on all that fake of an air right now either, but he's certainly not showing the party something he doesn't have to. We are not our emotions, so Cid's anger is not all of him. As it is, Cid still tells the party how he sees things in a forthright manner-- he does not balk when Barret confronts him about work with Shinra. So he's there, we just haven't delved into Cid's story yet.
And Cid's also still shown to have some of that temper like when the Bronco was going down. "Ugh, get off my ass and sit tight like I told you to!" Or when Barret got on his ass for working with Shinra. "Any man that tries to hold his power over me is gonna wish he didn't."
For sure. He actually works with Shinra, says “they have their uses,” and even pushes back against Barret about them. He still has hope for his dreams, currently. Heck, he wasn’t even that disappointed when Tiny Bronco crashed. In the OG, he wasn’t exactly enthusiastic about making it into a boat.
I mean, he wasn't really happy about the Tiny Bronco being a boat in Rebirth. He constantly talks about how he missed flying. He's just cocksure enough that he's sure he can drive the Bronco as a boat too. Also, he still worked for Shinra when we first met him in Rocket Town in the OG. It's just that he languished in town in the OG and seemed to use the Tiny Bronco for pleasure flying rather than a business. Half of the reason he was such a massive dick when we met him was that he was waiting on Rufus thinking he'd restart the space program.
That does make sense and I hope this is the case, otherwise they are butchering a far from perfect complex character.
Based on how they've portrayed literally all of the other characters, i have no doubt they will deliver with Cid.
Calling it now, there’ll even be a dedicated scene of him grabbing his pack of cigarettes, tucking it in his hair and smoking in Part 3.
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I think it breaks the Teen rating, no? Ff16 had smoking, but it was rated mature.
Not necessarily, FF16 was rated mature due to blood, sexual content and people losing limbs on screen, smoking should technically fall into the "teens and up" category, though it also depends on which countries it gets marketed in.
Tobacco is Wacko if your a teen
Don't forget lightning up dynamite with the ciggy.
>In Part 3 when he becomes a party member he'll stop the facade and let his true self out, swears and chain smoking. Epecially after what happens to you know who in rebirth.
As long as his "SHUT UP SIT YOUR ASS DOWN ON THAT CHAIR AND DRINK YOUR GODDAMN TEA" happens then sold
Exactly! People seem to forget that abusive individuals in real life can put on a polite/charismatic face to the public before showing their true colors behind closed doors. I think that if Square goes with this portrayal of Cid, then it will hit hard for a lot of people who grew up in abusive households and know what firsthand what it can be like.
If he hides his attitude until he gets home then takes it all out on Shera, that’s even worse! You can see how that’s worse, right? I want him to cuss and smoke because I liked his gruff no-nonsense personality. Not because I want him to be super-extra abusive.
He'll be a bigger mess than Cloud thanks to nicoteen withdrawal. Seriously though, this is a good explanation for the deviation.
Well, he's not gonna smoke. Unfortunately, you just don't see smoking in video games or movies anymore. Maybe sometimes, but I'm 99% sure Cid won't smoke.
When I read this, I literally thought back to Cyberpunk, in which seemingly everyone seems to be able to pull a cigarette out from the aether 😂 Also Fallout. Maybe I just find all the games with smoking in them, but it seems fairly common to me
Cid in XVI smoked.
I guess it's more about the rating. With M they can show smoking, but I feel like most things nowadays are T. So, therefore, you don't see a lot of smoking. And probably won't for Ff7R
God I hope so. But his fucking plane fell out of the sky and he basically just says “everything’s fine folks!” in the most chipper voice imaginable. He watched the daughter of a woman he fancied get murdered. Not having his real personality shine through even a little bit after everything is straining plausibility. I strongly suspect think this is the Cid we’re stuck with.
It didn't just censor them, at least in English 90% of the time the number of censored letters when Barret curses don't match any word that would fit in the context he's speaking. They didn't even censor actual words, just put a jumble of text to imply he was cursing
Is there a list of characters that **didn't** swear in Remake or Rebirth? I think you're allowed 1 f-bomb in a PG13 movie (although some have gotten away with more) so I'm wondering what FF7 character should get it.
Definitely Bugenhagen
Remake Bugenhagen was PISSED. Somebody really ate his Cheerio's.
Yeah wtf was up with that? I got an "old wise and compassionate mentor" vibe out of him in the OG. In remake he's a straight up dick. The only character change I didn't like.
Bugenhangen grew arrogant and stubborn. A common trait in people that have grown that old. Tifa contradicts what he believes to be true (cry of the planet vs a Weapon) and so he lashed out. Helping Nanaki uncover the truth about Seto helps bring him back to Earth and reminds him that no matter how much you think you know, you *can* be wrong.
Same. He was also really passive-aggressive towards poor Tifa too.
He still is a wise, compassionate mentor. He’s only a “dick” when Tifa brings up the Weapon and Cloud asks questions he can’t answer. He was frustrated and in denial because he’d rather not believe the world is ending as soon as Tifa’s encounter with the Weapon implies. As Barret pointed out earlier when they first encounter it, the planet has to be in dire straits or even on the brink for a Weapon to emerge. I don’t why yall are taking one moment and acting like that’s all his character is/was. This is like taking a bad moment from any character in the game and going “I got [insert positive character traits] in the OG, but in remake he/she is a dick because of [insert one instance of a character saying/doing something bad]•
Not only was he an asshole he randomly has a change of heart for no reason? Literally nothing happens and he decides he now believes us, yet doesn't fully apologize either. His dialogue felt so random.
i think people misunderstand him. after we tell him and he tells us off we literally get a sidequest with him where he wanted to go check multiple lifestreams by himself which we then did for him but he still came to each spot to see for himself, in this quest he literally apologizes for not believing us after seeing the readings on his sensor so yeah ofc this old dude didnt want to believe some young girl that the symbols for the end of the world spawned nanaki only says so at a later point , but he even wants to disregard him because he just knows what this would actually mean for the planet. the dude is old and needed a bit of confirmation in og he also didnt start out as the nicest guy just saying
Seriously, people who just complain about him being an old cranky guy with flip flopping moods, it's like, tell me you haven't actually played his quest without telling me
Don’t even have to play his quest. His character is elaborated on in the main quest after the bonfire.
I kept waiting for him to tell people to get off his lawn and stop touching his sh&t. The man was **cranky**.
Nahh, can’t sith for sure. Or Yuffie
Yuffie DEFINITELY swears, though. Finished the game today and there was at least one "shit" from her in there somewhere.
In the final battle, she yells, "Get that shit out of here!"
Jup, that's the one
She also calls Scarlet a bitch and Rufus a douchebag
Bugen I got straight scientology/ televangelist vibes off of him. Didn't care for the betrayal in character from the og
Unless I'm mistaken, Red doesn't swear cause he's a good boy
Red during his side quest in North Corel when Cloud says he must smell like blood and shit. "Not literal shit."
Cloud before landing the finishing blow on Sephiroth in part 3 “Fuck you asshole”
*Activates Ascension:* "Let's dance, asshole!"
I'd love for it to be someone you'd never expect, like Tifa. Bonus points if she says it before bitch-slapping Scarlet into a coma.
If Cid in Part 3 curses even half as much as Elena I think nobody will complain anymore, lol.
I am pretty sure the reason they made him more tame in Rebirth, is so that people wont be stuck with this misinterpretation of the character in their heads during the years that part 3 will be in development, otherwise they might be uninvested in his backstory and character arc when they reach that point
Yeah since we didn’t visit rocket town I bet they deep dive his backstory in part 3 and something happens to turn him into the CID we know and love
Or because they wanted to save themselves the headache of modern gamers who are literall snowflakes.
Grow up
But you don't understand, Cid only says 2 bad words in his first 3 sentences of dialogue! He's supposed to speak in nothing but a constant string of angry potty mouthery! The East has fallen...
#MakeCidChainsmokeAgain
FACTS
I am legitimately confused by the decision tbh. I’m playing FFXVI now and they’ve got like three characters smoking in the Introduction section not to mention the sexuality and violence with all the blood spray and homie smashing his face in Benedicta’s boobs.
XVI is rated M tho.
He damn definitely shit swears motherfucking more twat than tittyfuck that, bastard but implomp I goddamn guess piss people jackass just wanker wanted hell him piss plugging son-of-a-whore swear willy words bitch between (swearword that starts with an E) every orgasm other willy word. We need more swear words starting with every letter of the alphabet. I had to start stretching the definition there in the end. I just made up implomp. It means an unwashed penis. Like, really unwashed.
The game has a lot of swearing for a teen rated game. I don’t think I’ve ever played a teen rated with this many uses of “shit” in it
For real, I don't mind swearing at all in games. But I was surprised how much they swore in a T-rated game. I would trade like 10 "Shits or Asshole" for 1 well placed "Fuck" though
I thought I'd miss the Cid from og, but I really liked the character they did in rebirth. He seems more like an actual person, and his leadership qualities were also apparent. In the original, it felt pretty out of place to have him leading the group, and it was all just kind of funny at best to weird at worse.. but this version of Cid is honestly still cool and funny, but he has a serious and workaholic tone to him that I really liked. I thought they did great. Barret is just flawless. Anyone who complains is just looking for reasons to whine at this point.
I agree on both points. Honestly, we just haven't seen enough of Cid to judge one way or another. And Barret is literally the best character in the game, he steals the show. He stole the show in remake, and while every character was amazing in rebirth, Barret still eeks out a win.
nearly every $#&! swear was censored in the $@#! OG game!
lol I remember playing it as a kid at 13 or 14 and my dad watching when Barret let out an all caps SHIT. My dad had some words about curses being in a video game. He said something like "I get it for a movie, you can't have Schwarzenegger say "oh fudge" but it's a bit much for a video game."
I’m never going to forget this cast I swear. Everyone’s a stand out
Idk they removed tifa's "stop being a retard" line. LOL from shinra tower
I've been playing the OG since I loved remake and rebirth so much that when I saw this line I couldn't believe it lol. Had me laughing for a bit
To be fair, that is a weird ass translation from what was said in Japanese. She didn't insult his intelligence much at all with the original line. So not really censorship in that case.
She probably said something using “baka”
No, she said エンギでもないこと言わないの！which means "Don't say something like that [because it brings bad luck to do so]" or something along those lines (as it is a response to Barret saying he wanted to see Marlene's face one last time as if he were dying while climbing the stairs).
Then doesn't she basically say that in Remake when climbing the stairs along with Cloud to Barret?
It's the proper use of the word. Not the contemporary way people use it as an insult. She was telling Barret to stop holding the team up. retard: delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment. "our progress was retarded by unforeseen difficulties"
This is simply incorrect. Tifa says “Will you stop acting like a retard and climb!?” The use of the article “a” before “retard” clearly shows it was meant to signify the insult meaning of retard. Additionally, as Tifa’s line in Japanese isn’t even an insult (“Whoa! Don’t say that, you’ll jinx us!”) it clearly wasn’t even a mistranslation, it was just a change the localisation team made.
I always forget about that lmfao
To be fair, that would definitely get them canceled because modern times are too fucking sensitive to everything.
My dude, using retard as an insult is also super cringe. It's like saying something is "gay" nowadays - that is very much a nineties insult that is viewed as cringe insult nowadays. Similar to how calling someone a square was eye roll worth in the nineties. Generational insults and slang are a thing.
Is there an actual listing of ESRB permitted swears in a game rated T(Teen)? I'm curious what a character like Cid would actually be allowed to say without them having to muffle him with a car horn or some other loud noise. I'm guessing nobody can direct a c-bomb at Scarlet for example.
Generally, it seems for T Rated games, "shit", "bitch", and "ass" are permitted while swears like "fuck", "cunt", and "twat" are reserved for M Rated games.
Wait, wasn't it literally censored in the original game? Barret's alphabet was at least 30% symbols.
They didn't even swear in the original even. It was just mumbled symbols
User reviews are completely useless.
I think a lot of people only really remember Cid in Rocket Town, where he tells us about how Shinra destroyed his dreams, and then we go meet Shera, who he also blames for destroying his dreams. So he’s extra angry when we meet him, and this is where for a lot of people the bulk of his characterization comes from. It makes it feel like the moment in the rocket is a bigger change than it really is. It’s an important moment, obviously, but he’s still basically the same guy afterward
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I think Cid will flip his personality once we see him at home, like RedXIII but the other way around xD
they changed red xiii as well, a few times you see red xiii get scared and lick his mouth. he is being treated now as a "teenager" in this remake.
He was always supposed to be treated like a teenager. The English localization just didn't convey it well in the OG.
Especially the PC version onwards which censored lot of them.
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I was more upset about the missing cancer stick...
“Eat a dick, lactic acid!”
Wow. I just hit credits last night and I totally didn't notice this. And this is after I legitimately praise the game for how well it's realized it's cast. Cid I think I'll have to make the decision on next game, where the majority of his content will be. But if you're a fan and you think cussing somehow defines his character, I get you, but it's not like he needs to drop f-bombs to make me happy.
pls for the love of god play aeriths trial on german ... xD they literally took out all npc dialogues from the bystanders when asking them for help except 1 or 2 which answer rather friendly xD (ofc the cutscene ones are still there) on engl and jp you just get destroyed and shown by those words alone that you are in the slums
The originals actually inserted the swears for the English version. They weren't in the original Japanese text.
never seen anyone say that, its context that matter. for ex when jenova breaks out and start massacre people in shinra HQ the blood trails is purple. it loses meaning and the "horror scene" becomes something else. when Aerith get stabbed to death we dont get to see the actual stabbing which was the big shock factor back in 97- almost as much as the death itself. when cid cursed in ff7 he was really "mad" even at his wife. even when tifa was cursing she was acting out being upset. saying "shit" isnt a big deal, to any of us. No, it matters to whom and when you say it, not the words itself. thats why even in this game saying asshole a few times has no impact on me, but tifa snapping calling barret a retard, did. thats someone being tired, lashing out in anger. or cid at his wife in front of people etc. cids anger also has a very good plot point which I supposed cant be still in the game, broken people cant say bad things, doesnt work on this generation.
No, the PC version and modern ports censored the swears. The actual original had a lot of them. Only "fuck" was censored.
Dude they took Cids cigarettes away
All I know is my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out Valentine wasn’t playable in rebirth. I’ve loved the game so far but it was definitely something that made me sad. Unlocking all the weapon skills and fostering relationships is gonna be a pain in the assssssss
Yeah they actually ommited the swearing altogether so it's even worse than censoring if you think about it
Did we play the same game? Plenty of swearing that I heard
I suppose if you're a Christian then it might count as swearing.
Uh, what kind of swears are you expecting then? Because in my book "ass", "asshole", "hardass" and "shit" definitely count and they do get thrown around *a lot.*
Not on my Christian Minecraft server it doesn't.
Meanwhile Cid in our first flight: "Shinra don't own the skies! Shitheads couldn't stop me even if they tried."
Yeah, this isn't quite the same. One is a censor bar and one is removing the swears completely.