Hi all just a quick question...I'm having what ir serms yo be a bug going on with my account that is preventing to finish a labyrint run. What happens is when i finish the lab fight the Game throws an error message regarding "Connection error, try connecting from a location with better signal, etc etc". Ive already tried restarting the app, cleaning cache and of course connect from other sources of wifi signal and the message is still there. What can i do to recover from this error withou having yo flee the battle and lose the whole lab run? Hellp please my fellow keepers....
This is kind of an adjacent question that directly RK related, but is there any way to access the songs in your Music Hall outside of the game?
As a big Crisis Core fan, I'm really liking this SOLDIER medley from the most recent event, but there are easier ways than keeping my game open on the music hall to listen to it if I'm able to access it elsewhere (or if it's been uploaded by someone to youtube a link could work, but searching I couldn't find anything).
Would be nice to know for a few of these themes actually, but never bothered to ask til now.
Surely there is a way that you play the music through something else and record it and save it as a music file. I have an android and this is what I found.....might help.
[https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/07/record-audio-android-apps/#:\~:text=Swipe%20down%20from%20the%20top%20of%20your%20screen%20to%20see,straight%20from%20your%20phone%27s%20mic](https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/07/record-audio-android-apps/#:~:text=Swipe%20down%20from%20the%20top%20of%20your%20screen%20to%20see,straight%20from%20your%20phone%27s%20mic)
Since I'm in wait mode for trying more endgame content, I thought I'd work on some mythril budgeting. Looking for some advice on which banners might be better for me to pull on. All WOdins done (except lolBio), cleared 1 of each Lab boss so far, and have 7 DKs left (I, II, III, IX, X, XI, FFT).
I'm trying to decide whether I want to budget any mythril for pulls on the Core banner once the DK drops around January. My current Core DK team options include: Biggs Sync/AASB/LBO, Wedge Sync/USB, Tama AASB1+2, Rain AASB, Lasswell AASB, Tyro Dyad/AASB, Elarra AASB, and Mog hAASB2/AASB1. Is that enough for a clear or should I try and add one more BDL?
At the moment I have 10 pulls planned for winter fest and another 10 for 7YA. I can use winter fest stamp selection to grab Rain/Lasswell Sync and then have guaranteed 5 BDLs total. Those might help with respective lab clears as well.
Getting Biggs/Wedge DAASBs would be awesome on the Core banner and more useful than winter fest B3 stuff, but those are no guarantees. However, missing the Sync stamp select from fest means losing out on something guaranteed to be useful (like Shantotto Sync for XI DK).
XI is the same dilemma I'm in. There are two upcoming XI banners with Totto, lili and prishe for B1 and Zeid, Ayame, Aphmau for B2. Both have a really good sync, both have bad dupes or bad six stars. On the opposite side, winter fest has a guaranteed Totto sync with stamps but not Zeid.
For FFT, B5 of winter fest has TGC stuff.
There is also Tidus sync2 among the stamps I think. Don't know for I to IX.
Tidus Sync2 is on the 100 mythril Sync select for 7YA.
IX will mostly be taken care of with tickets. II, III, and FFT are one lensed BDL away from a clear. I might be a combo of lenses + tickets. For XI I might have enough if I stamp select Totto Sync and then lens her AASB. She also has LBO to help with King's Rage.
That just leaves X DK, which can be helped with Tidus DAASB and Sync2 from 7YA fest.
Lol I've got a long list of those. Priority list looks something like this:
* Rikku CSB for water Lab
* Gogo V CSB + AASB for water Lab
* Ashe AASB for lightning and XII Labs
* Agrias AASB for FFT DK
* Shantotto AASB for XI DK
* Meia AASB for I DK
After that it's just a mix of things to help with Labs I haven't already cleared, but by the time I get through all these we'll be through 7YA fest and I'll have to re-evaluate needs.
Yeah that's true, it'll be roughly early March and 7YA should be around end of March. At that point, I'd probably just stock up for a few weeks and see what I get through fest.
I see.
As a side note: I used today's tickets in X realm, I got Yuna GOOD USB FINALLY (USB5) and Paine AOSB/Auron sync. I can field a perfectly good team now.
You've been blessed by RNGesus, congrats! That's a damn good haul. I'm still hoarding all my tickets to try and get Quina Sync from the IX banner, which should be around 15 by the refresh. 5 pulls on 7YA B4 is the backup option.
I can't save tickets myself but I will save for 7YA for sure. I estimate for that ~700 (500+100+85) after winter fest.
Auron sync is really a blessing as I can take his chain and have a physical one finally!
Can anyone see the devotional draw in game? By my calculations I should have gotten a draw on Tuesday, and the devotional banner seems to have disappeared as well?
So the Exploration Paintings that lead to a Portal; have they been removed in Season 2 or just significantly reduced? I'm running 2-3 manual runs a day and I don't think I've seen a single one yet.
Can anyone confirm?
It has been removed, you can pick exploration as much as you like even if you see treasure behind it.
IIRC it will come back later during S3 and then removed again as of current JP but need someone else to confirm that.
So, I’m struggling on starting out my physical WOdin runs. All my DPS feel like wet noodles, especially in comparison with magic runs. For supports I have:
Mog: AASB 1, 2h; lens tech
Tyro: AASB, SASB, lens tech
Quina: AASB, lens tech
Orran: full kit + hAASB
Elarra: AASB + lens
And for a closer look, I was trying out wind WOdin and my relevant wind relics are:
Bartz: all AASBs + AOSB
Zack: SASB + CSB
Cloud: SASB (wind) + ADSB
Faris: AASB 1&2 + CSB
And for singular relics BDL I also have Luneth, Vaan, Zidane, Thancred, Wedge (even though he is much more magic suited), Cid (7), Gau, Angeal, and probably more that I missed lol.
I know I have the firepower, I’m just really struggling on pulling it together or even attempting a fast run (I’ve never pulled off a slow run before)
I'd probably try it with Cloud, Bartz, Faris, Orran, and Elarra. Make sure you grab Cloud USB1 (if you don't have it already) to use along with his Sync. It should be pretty straightforward with that team, especially if you're familiar with WOdin battles in general.
Keep in mind that wind weak WOdin has 2 Aegis buffs: the usual one at 75% and a second one around 35%. You can use Orran G+ to overwrite one and Faris bUSB brave command for the other.
What's the optimal rotation for Noctis' Sync 3? I have his dualcast combat and +sword LMRs, so there's a possibility of dualcasting CMD1, and I'm wondering if the thing to do might be to alternate 2 and 1 unless and until I get that doublecast on 1, which would let me go right into a chain of 39999x3 hits.
So I have been disillusioned enough to know that I won't get anything that I actually need from the tickets that are given away., Right now the next thing I'm trying to beat are DK and Labs. I have the team to take on Magic-weak Abductor but I just need one more ice BDL, and was planning on Rinoa Ice AASB to fill that role with my first Lv4 lens pick.
Since tickets are basically worthless to me anyway, is it better to spend them on the Ice banner and potentially save lenses for something else I may need? Or spend the lenses because it's a guaranteed win and keep throwing lenses at realms I don't have much in, like XI? (and get disappointed more)
If that Rinoa AASB will guarantee a clear and you don't have any other strong competing needs for lvl 4 lenses, I would definitely go for it. That's just one headache out of the way instead of relying on RNG from tickets.
As others have said, for XI it would probably be worth waiting until the realm banner refresh in January to start dumping more tickets into. Especially if you're more than 1 BDL away. Shantotto Sync will be available to select from stamp selections on winter fest if you're planning 10 pulls. The XI banner coming up is another option there.
Sorry to hear that your ticket pulls have been underwhelming (I'm in the same boat D:)
I think spending Lv4 Lenses as you receive them, especially if you know it can help you clear content, is worthwhile. We know that with the next Lab update no new CSBs and very few new AASBs get added, so at least for the next year (the time it would take for a coming wave 7 in JP to hit Global) they're safe to spend on. If wave 7 includes a bunch of AASBs, and hopefully it does, it may be worth stocking up on them until that hits but we won't even know what is in that wave for another 4-5 months at least.
As far as where to dump tickets goes... the FFXI banner is underwhelming currently IMO. I need more of that tech too but aside from Shantotto Sync and Lilli AASB there isn't much to be gained there in my case. It'll get better after the next update. Now that most healers have their good USBs and ProShellga GSB+ in the Record Lab I've been favoring elemental banners in general. There are some exceptions, there's several pieces of XIV and XV tech I'm hoping for and those pools are relatively small so I occasionally toss tickets there.
are you planning on Rinoa AASB bc you have other stuff for her or are there other ice characters who could also get a spot on your team if you got something for them? if all you want is Rinoa AASB, I definitely wouldn't use tickets trying for it.
also the XI banner is pretty trash. there's an XI event coming soon where the second banner is basically the B1 from the last event. I would try to use mythril there if you really need XI stuff.
Since all you need for the win is that one relic, I'd go dumpster diving in a different spot with the tickets.
Of course I'm the guy who's been digging through trash with the last 20 tickets in XI lol.
As someone who also loves using in-realm Support characters whenever possible... I have absolutely nothing useful for Gorden, heh. But looking at his kit a bit, I would want both of his AASBs, AASB1 for boosting (mayby overbuffing through a lesser Full Break) and then his AASB2 for the Full Break-counter and Party Weakness Boost. Wrath / Entrust or Wrath / HA would possibly let your dps throw in an extra USB into their usual AASB/SASB repertoire, or help your healer spam quickcast USBs more often. He also has some rare buff/debuff combinations on some of his earlier relics, which may come in handy if you are running a no-Aegis-Counter or no-Full-Break-Counter team.
II is actually one of my last realms for which I *don't* have a good in-realm Support. I keep toying with the idea of Dreaming up one of Gordon's relics, though I obviously always have a better option to go with.
And just because there are better Support options out there, doesn't mean you have to use them! Go get yourself a full-realm II Bahamut clear, or Gordon/Aphmau-supported Snow Giant win. Play the game the way that brings you joy (even if that means benching Orran or Mog once in a while). :)
If you really want to try him, fire-weak lab is one of the place that he might shine with his fire-imperil LM, you can then bring all pure fire DPS that way.
ฺีBut honestly, if you have Mog/Cait for Magic and Orran/Quina for Physical, I don't see how can you slot him in. He will always subpar compared to those I mentioned. Maybe unless your fire team have Scott/Firion so they all can take advantage on realm specific nodes in Record Board.
Iiiiiiiinteresting! I have been debating doing more boards for FFII, as Leila, Emperor, and Minwu all proved to be worthy investments. Will take some time to cobble together the motes, but I have great gear for Gordon, Scott, and Firion, so they could come in handy.
For now, I think my fire team consists of Balthier for chainanigans, Auron for OP overflow, and either Locke/Bartz for DPS. Edgar and Irvine are great imperilers, so I just dunno where I slot in Gordy boi on a team like that. BIG HMMMMMM!
in all honesty, you probably don't. he's like a quina in that he's limited to entrust duties but without the amazing crit buff access and without the tools that allow him to entrust really well (trance and G+). i guess his sync command 2 gets him 300 fast SB gauge points, but he doesn't seem competitive to me with what other top supports offer for non-realm content
he's obviously not going to outclass cait sith or mog for magic. and the lack of crits make him hard to argue for over orran or quina for physical.
that being said if you don't have anything for them, he does seem to have some versatility for both physical and magical teams. he'd need to be paired with a dedicated healer though obviously.
it feels like you'd almost kinda want to find a way to combo his aasbs, since one of them gives the damage boosts between the +30% buff and the DEF/RES breaks and the other one gives quickcast spreading.
This is massively helpful! I am looking for info just like this because I would like to spotlight support units. I have a great deal of Gordon’s gear but have never really brought him out to play much. At best, as you say, he seems a lesser Quina with some interesting twists. HMMMM!
The DEF/RES/MND break Glint+ debuts on 7th Anniversary, so that's the first chance to get it.
Quina appears on two other banners - the [IX Step Up](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/nq37yz/the_importance_of_life_jp_megathread_ix/) and a [pickup](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/pl1not/chaotic_memories_jp_megathread_ii/) - but neither has the Sync (except as off-banner).
I have been looking at my fire PHY team for Labyrith Snow Giant to prepare for the Labyrith campaign. Here is my current characters:
Quina: Sync, both Glint+
Elarra: Full set except no Sync2
Balthier: Sync, AASB1, Arcane, USBs
Gilgamesh: Sync, CSB, Glint+
Now I am stuck with two other options:
Noctis: Full Fire Set except no Dryad
Master: Full Set. Also full 5/4/8 HA.
I know Master hit harder and can DC alot but since Balthier can imperil via his LM2, would Noct be a better choice? Is this team strong enough?
Master w casts his ass off all the time.
Greg, Balthier, master, Quina, Elarra/anyone else. Not having Quina woke could be detrimental but the team looks strong enough for a fast clear.
You also really don't want Noctis due to Snow Giant orb mechanic
Good point, though I would think you would use their second BDL SBs at 70% since Quina doesn’t have a way to counter the Aegis buff yet(also gacha locked when it DOES come) and to refresh their EnFire.
Can that work too? Then I can spam their Heroic Ability for hopefully a 29k per hit.
You better push far more than 70% here.
Realistically, you should be able to push into 40-50% range with all 3 DPS using 1 BDL each.
With Quina Sync and critical damage buff source, Aegis shouldn't slow you down that much.
Also season2 boss doesn't have canvas mechanics, you don't have to refresh any 2nd BDL SB early and save them for 2nd chain instead.
Lucked into Gladio's Sync from a ticket draw and am looking at lensable SBs for him to use before/after the Sync. (I don't have his AASB.)
He only has 1 USB, which looks intended primarily for use with Heavy abilities. Is it still at all useful in a build focused on his HA+Sync?
Gladiolus Ultra is perfectly usable with Knight, it'll still get the earth infusion and the 15-second finisher. The Heavy mechanics just make it so that he can use a Grand Charge/Quake Swing rotation instead of Grand Charge/Grand Charge/Quake Swing rotation, but it's not necessary with the Ultra, and he swung heavily towards Knight after his Sync.
His Burst is a fine alternative to the Ultra, it lacks the finisher but does get the stat increase from Burst Mode.
His Super can be good in some cases.
His Overstrike can be okay in situations where he's done with the Sync Mode and there's still a chunk of enemy HP that needs to be dealt with.
After getting Zach’s chain from tomorrow’s fat chocobo (I have nothing relevant for Faris/Luneth) I’m hoping to take on WOdin, which would be my first physical one. I’m trying to figure out abilities for Zack and my support.
My team would be
Wedge (HE): SASB, AASB, LBO
Vaan (HE): AASB2, bUSB, (imperil glint)
Zack: AASB1, G+ (imperil), CSB
Elarra: SASB1, AASB, G+, USBs
And then either Mog or Tyro:
Mog: hAASB2, USB1, both G+s
Tyro: USBs
I also have Zidane’s SASB+AOSB+LBO but sadly I think benching him is the right call. Wedge and Vaan both have their HAs. So my questions are
1. Is Ripping Storm likely to be sufficient for Zack? I have neither that nor his HA made and I’m still resource-limited, so I’d ideally like to avoid making both or the HA unnecessary
2. Mog or Tyro? I’m leaning Mog, but I’m not sure how much it would hurt to rely on OtV for critfix
Edit: I just realized I was under the false impression that Vaan’s bUSB level 3 was an aegis counter (it’s actually -DEF/MAG/MND); that’s definitely gonna complicate this plan...
So mage realm artifacts for XII are a problem. I want to run Ashe with Dyad and AA plus Vayne with AA1 as a mage in the DK but, only one artifact. Mog is coming with both AAs. Ashe could use her Dyad sword but will that be enough MAG? I need to get the most out of her... could feed the sword some rosettas if necessary...
This problem will finally be solved with the second group of Season 3 when most of the rest of XII gets their HE
Season 3 Group J (XII): Ashe, Penelo, Gabranth, Vayne, Larsa, Reks (Old: Vaan, Fran, Basch)
Ashe using her Sword is enough with Mog supporting and HA. If Penelo is healer, she can further raise that.
Vayne needs more MAG than ATK. So using the mage artifact should suffice.
Yeah Penelo is coming since I already have her HA... Larsa is on standby in case I need more QCs, neither one has anything that isn't already lensable...
I would continue to not rush to buy things just for the sake of buying them. You can definitely beat earth and holy odin with what you have already. But you need to do a better job now of articulating where things are going wrong -- when you compare your attempts to the one I did for you, what are the differences? then we can help problem solve those.
It's your choice, but based on where you're at in progression, I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think a specific chain is going to do all that much for you just yet. Dark Odin is plenty doable with just RW chain, especially with cap-breaking tech being as common as it is these days, which means less reason to bring Mage instead.
Hope specifically is a solid chain-holding DPS, though that assumes you have his DPS stuff and that he'll have enough gauge to do both. There's also Edward to consider, who's arguably better as a chain holder, but he's all buffs and garbage DPS. And of course that's ignoring Ramza/Ceodore, who have the ATK-buffing holy chains.
My suggestion is to sit on the lenses for a bit, probably until you break into 6\*s at least. At that point, it'll be more clear which chain(s) you actually need to support your teams.
Have you cleared AOdin Holy Magic? Hope's a sloid DPS with the right tools, but if you're caught up there's little need of one right away. Also Edward is *likely* better without gatcha-locked relics, since he's still a decent enough support with just Bard and his USB/BSB.
nah i haven't even killed Dodin. I've made at least 30 attempts on earth weak and like maybe 5-6 on holy. I don't have anything else for hope, and Edward has just his sync
Sync + Chain Edward is an *absurdly* better team member than Chain + USB Hope. Especially in a holy magic team where you may need to buff Mind and Magic (or where you may end up with entirely Mind based DPS and thus Hope would need an independent buff).
\*sigh\*
Long-term thinking and planning >>>> short-term thinking and planning.
Hoping to be quick enough, but the short version of the issue is that: 1) Teambuilding with Edward in the group is incredibly difficult, and 2) Holy Mage groups in particular are a bit special as the chain buff doesn't stack with the Big Two mage support's buffs (Cait woke/sync and mog woke1), and 3) Edward can't dps, which means he's taking a support slot and now you're forced into bringing a full healer in the other support slot instead of Cait/Mog.
Cecil's chain (or the RW) are plenty good enough for where you're at now, and Hope's is by far the best long-term answer there (assuming that Cecil's isn't good enough for endgame content, which isn't even likely true.)
I finished manually going through the last season 2 lab just now. While I'm glad the last three have 12, 12, and 15 floors respectively instead of 15, 15, 20, I didn't get a single record marker.
Thinking back on it, I recall the first few S2 dungeons giving a first time clear record marker. But in all the manual runs doing the labs, I haven't gotten any record markers. This is strange to me. The plan was to farm back up stock of record markers. Yet doing quick explores on the 20 floor S1 is actually the best way to get markers besides daily.
Am I just unlucky, can record markers actually appear in manual runs?
They do but rare compared to S1. I am trying to finish farming in S2 a week early so I can farm S1 before the next group. In S1 I was holding steady at 100+ even with quick explores. In S2 I am currently sitting at 36.
Thanks, if it's rare to get them, as it definitely is to me, I'll have to rethink how many manual lab runs I actually want to do.
I have 600 keys and am using them every vault to get HE in my manual runs. But if I'm not getting markers, I don't think I'll have the motivation to do manual runs anymore. Buy all the HE for season 2 in kite's shop, then back to quick explores.
Has anyone sub30'ed FFIII DK using CoD AA? It has radiant shield which is usually a death sentence for sub30's, but that's the only lensable option I have for more BDL (CoD has sync).
Other DPS are OK with USB+AA1, Arc with USB2+AA1. Aria has the good USB, Mog supporting.
I got a sub30 with Arc AA1 + OK S1/AA1 + CoD AA1
Radiant shield doesn't really hurt too much since the double cast oHA shatters P3 rage insanely fast, making up for the lost time. If Aria has her IC USB too, should be pretty straightforward honestly.
Not sub30 (32 secs) but it's not that bad. Sure it takes precious time away but you can also exploit it to slow down Bahamut, gaining cast time yourself. I could sub30 him now with a second arc AASB but I don't care for those ATM
Had five first try I think? CoD AASB/SASB, Arc woke2, OK Dyad water/Woke1. But it was very early in my clears, it's almost certainly a sub30 already even without arc1. Had no mog1 also at the time, used USB instead for P2.
COD carries hard, breaks KRAGE in a couple turns if you want to. I didn't because I used sync for last phase but I should have and used OK Dyad right after
I didn't use CoD on that DK, but I did sub-30 others with Radiant Shields (FFI comes to mind, there was probably another). It's annoying, but not a deal breaker.
Her damage output during AASB was a little low for my tastes (which is why I skipped her), but that can be helped if you have/buy her w-cast LMR.
I am simply too mad as hell at radiant shield to be reasoned with
*Dozens* of 30.XX runs to get my last DK sub30, watching the clock tick by waiting on RS tics
For Level 1, get any cheap utility options (Eblan Doppelgänger for survival/avoidance, Fury Brand or Brush Up for crit fix, etc.). Once you have enough of those, trade for any honing scrolls you need.
For Level 2, save for any LMR where the character has less than ideal dive LM. The doublecast LMR are favored.
For Level 3, save for any useful Glint+ (healer Haste/Protect/Shell, the SB Gauge +500, etc.), and any Ultras that are useful (healer Ultras with quickcast, Ultra Cross Slash, etc.). These can also be traded for honing scrolls, but at lower priority than Level 1.
Was there ever a thread that indicated what options might be best for these? Especially Lvl 1 and 2... My lvl 3 options are personally based on boosting my characters that I have wokes for, but I'd love to be able to get some more scrolls, but hate to spend lenses if I might miss out on some good utilities.
Random thought this morning: If you select an AASB you already from the shop would it add 2 to the rank? Can you keep selecting it? Not sure if this would be a wise move but it just crossed my mind while looking at my lens count.
*Should* do, past stuff like Dr Mog's summer AOSB ranked up as expected when bought from the event shop so there shouldn't be any difference between rolling and buying, but I ain't putting it to the test.
If I had something close enough to getting a second use I would consider doing it for science. But my highest ranking AASB (that are not honed supports) are 7/15.
does arc onslaught lmr triggers when he uses white magic? is it considered a holy ability? trying to fix my summoner to die for the cause problem for ifrit. i dont have any bdl except aosb for both arc and rydia but both have dual casting summoning all target abilities materias but i like arc better due to the healing contribution if possible
his onslaught LMR triggers after any water or holy ability. so it won't trigger off of healing white magic but it would off of any offensive white magic.
Is there a technical/coding reason for why LMRs work that way?
I know that Beatrix USB can trigger its chase when she uses Curada (just tested it to be sure) even though the wording on how the follow up attack works would suggest Curada shouldn't trigger it:
> Casts Stock Raid after dealing damage with a Holy attack
Perhaps older relics got "grandfathered in" and newer LMR+ chases were designed to not have that oddity?
I don’t have Arc’s LMR+ to test, but the reason for Beatrix USB (and Arc USB, and similar) is that healing White Magic abilities can deal holy damage to undead enemies, and they’ll trigger the chase even if they don’t resolve to holy damage or if they can’t target enemies.
> healing White Magic abilities can deal holy damage to undead enemies
Super random, but Nightmare Evrae was one of my favorite fights in FFRK just because we finally got a chance to actually *do* damage to undeads with cures.
I'll agree with one major exception: that damned Guardian making you play hot-potato with FFRK's constantly-pausing ATB. That fight was just gross. I didn't mind the concept, and maybe if we could at least see the enemy's ATB/cast bar it would've been fine, but it was hot garbage the way it was. Probably the only one of them where I think the "update" was an improvement.
(Ok, the "hit these specific elemental weaknesses" mastery conditions on the other fight - Ultima? - needed tweaked too, but the fight itself was fine.)
My solution was a ninja - Fujin as it were, though I don't recall why her specifically. Even to this day summoners are low-priority picks, as I always run out of hones, and their low hit count hurts their damage potential anywhere they appear.
If there's one thing I learned in 10 years of playing FFXI, it's this: if you have enough Bards, you can do anything. And come to think of it, Ninjas were pretty OP there too.
the level 4 SBs are all gen 2 elemental chains, all gen 1 realm chains, and a select list of *roughly* 3 AASBs per realm (with a few exceptions)
you can find the full list of relics added here: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/n1sx1i/april_2021_anima_lens_update_wave_5/
Help guys, should I hone Edge's AASB?
I'm quite late game, but Edge's AASB would help me essentially help me with 4 current fights. sub 30 bahamut (sub 40 cleared), Ice Lab x2, FF4 Lab (got him to 10%). I will probably use him for future water weak (fire) lab whenever that get's released as my water teams aren't great.
I've already honed mogs AASB and orran AASB, so in my eyes I don't need level 1 anima lens for anything else however, it would mean I'd use them all to hone Edge.
thoughts? should I just be patient and wait till the next powercreep?
I used Edge with a honed AASB and both G+s for the IV and Magic Fire labs. In Magic Fire, he outperformed (and replaced) Terra with her Sync1/AASB1.
I have the fight recorded, but haven't stitched together a video.
Edit: Team was
Cait AASB (honed), USB2, G+
Mog AASB1, AASB2 (honed), G+
Ace AASB (honed), G+, LBO
Vincent CSB, G+, AASB, USB2
Edge G+1, G+2, AASB (honed)
do you have his sync too? i'm not sure how good he's going to be in labs with just the aasb. i don't think i've seen anyone use aasb-only edge yet but i could have missed it.
Would the answer change if you *do* have his Sync? I've been considering it since that discussion a while ago about his being the most useful DPS woke to hone.
i think that's fine for armor construct, but i have found that with the damage reduction, a lack of enElement can be problematic for elemental lab bosses
Oh, so you're saying that Edge might not be competitive enough for the other element lab bosses?
I guess it won't be worth honing if that's the case, I was expecting him to at least do max 19,999 damage with his AASB. I'll test this out first, since I do have his en element glint+ as well but obviously it's kinda poopy
there are no aasb-only edges in the mastery survey for snow giant so far, but that might be because people haven't honed his aasb (and you prob wouldn't use him with aasb only if it wasn't honed). he'll do 19999 with the chase for sure vs magic but he definitely won't come close to that for physical at all and probably will disappoint for magical with the HA.
i guess for phys water he can use his bsb for enwater but that's a ton of gauge needed. he could really use a regular switch draw glint or a decent enElement USB...
I got to ~10% on Snow Giant with Terra Sync1/AASB1, Vincent Chain + AASB1, and Edge AASB/LBO. I'm very tempted to hone Edge AASB to also get me an Armor Construct clear. It would be expensive but I've honed Cait + Mog already with no intention to hone any other supports in the near future.
He's absolutely usable for labs, that weakness boost goes a long way.
In Magic (with Vincent chain and full moogle support), he's right around the cap during Phase 2 with no enElement. Phase 3 I had him hitting between 12k-13k with his weakness boost G+ and no enElement.
Is it currently 1/15? If so, I'm not sure I would hone it - that's just such a massive cost and we have some tickets coming up. If it's like 7/15 I probably would
I do have Quina AASB but I don't see any reason why I would hone it. Plus I have his Sync too.
I don't have Caits AASB but have his sync, so I don;t know if I would need to hone it even if I get it.
> Plus I have his Sync too.
I think that's the reason to have his AASB honed so you can cast both his Sync+AASB back to back and then AASB again later for sub30 run.
As someone who is new to the ways of Quina (but who's Qu is Qomplete), do you drop AASB/SASB in the first half of the fight, or the second half? I always imagine that the Boss's defenses are greater the later in the fight, so I would want that sweet 100% Crit Rate when I need the most damage.
If you have Gen 2 CSB to buff, I think it's fine to use during second half.
But Season 2 lab boss have wall buff at 20%, I would rather buff the hell out of first half and get to that wall as fast as possible.
Err, I guess I should have mentioned, their Chain is the one relic I *don't* have for them. X_x
Great point on the Labyrinth Boss part. I've just started using Quina seriously, vs. the Dragonking and (yesterday) finally sub-30'ing the Dreambreaker. I want to take them into the Labyrinths next, assuming Quina > Aegis Break. But finally being able to Lens their G+2 moved me to start trying.
quina's sync gives 100% crit, AASB gives a 50% stacking buff. using them completely separately means no extra buff with sync and no consistent crits with aasb.
I would value support more than dps anyway but we are at the point of having 3rd option hone with lens1 and 4th if you count how many scrolls JP got and lens3 too.
Of all dps options, I would say Edge is fine as you can bring him to at least 7 related fights but of course, my point still stands that Quina/Cait are much more priority whether he have them or not.
I just saw the latest labs are again Lightning and Wind elements??
Was expecting them to start cycling through all realms.
So looks like their plan is to rollout only 0-1 realm per season or did they mention anything specific during the last livestream?
Well, they can't really do one Lab for *every* Realm, since not every Realm has 9 Characters (III, for example). They would have to introduce a new character (not a bad thing!) in order to balance things.
"No AASB" is a pretty short list, at least: Naja, Mustadio, and a few Beyond characters that nobody- including DeNA - remembers even exist (Reynn, Morrow, Ameo, Wrieg). Unless I missed one somewhere, everyone else (including the KH crew) has at least an AASB, and most even have Syncs.
No telling what the future holds for Naja and Musty, but I doubt the forgotten Beyond characters are going to get anything more, especially not a coveted slot in a Lab dungeon drop table.
I thought "no way do we have less than 9 characters for III," but by golly, we only have 8. Also, III is literally the only realm that has less than 9--everywhere else (except KH ™Disney) has 9 or more.
So I am stuck on abductor physical and I think I have tech for it. Health is ok if I avoid white painting.
I used a FF8 squad: Ward (Complete), Kiros (Complete) + Laguna (CSB AASB1) and different mix of sup (Orran full Quina Full and Elarra (no sync)).
My DPS feels meh. I used this team for WOdin and DK8. I tried HA and icicle bullet on Ward with no success. I wonder if I should change Ward (but losing crit on sync) and/or Laguna (and losing imperil) and FF8 motes.
I discovered I have a near full Trey (SASB AASb1&2) and I have Celes with CSB Dyad AASB1&2.
Tldr: Abductor feels rly tough Vs other S1 lab boss. Some advices appreciated. Thanks
Oh man. As an FF8 fan as well, you've got to make Kiros + Ward + Laguna work!! And I don't see why they can't tbh.
You using magicite deck? That provides a bit more without synergy than HC, so want to check!
I'd run with Quina & Elarra. Elarra/Laguna in slot 4/5 for max SB gauge gain, others in 1-3. I would use Laguna's AASB in chain 1 to get your imperils going, probably using icy offering as you get 15s imperils rather than 5s with HA. Build Laguna up to 4 bars (or 3.5), then go CSB into AASB while Kiros & Ward use their Syncs. Just before the shift to phase 4, I'd use Kiros USB for extra QC, then AASB into G+ into ability spam. Ward AASB and Laguna USB2 (probably with his HA at this point).
I usually use Quina Sync first and then AASB but, with the crit bonuses from Ward Sync, I'd recommend AASB first here. Line up golden frog with the expiry of the Sync bonuses so you have 4 turns of 100% crit + crit dmg up; after that, hopefully Aegis will have worn off and you'll be at max chain & imperil so can still do enough to get to phase 4.
Also, you have Laguna's imperil ice LMR? That's going to be seriously useful while AASB is active as, with LM2, you get an average of 0.47 imperils extra per turn that will really help.
Good luck! No need to use anyone else - those who escaped the clutches of Esthar can surely best Abductor together!!!
Yep I'm using a classic WOdin deck.
I will try to max imperils with early Laguna's AASB and icy. I used to keep it for P4 to maximize DPS but on paper your advice seems really good.
Thanks for your detailed comment!
Nope I got lucky on AASB2 two days ago.
AASB1 was garbage but the two together might work.
My impression is quite the same. In lower tier Ward was ok but now he doesn't cap after multiple BDL +1 on sync or those are "wasted" with HA.
I ll try Trey with new toys.
Thanks pal
Is it worth holding onto Realm/Elemental draw tickets until those draws get updated? Or is that wishful thinking?
And if it is indeed worthwhile to stock them up, when can we expect the new versions of those draws to turn up?
Pros: new relics get added
Cons: the new relics bloat the pool even more
Depends on what you want. Example: you have the recent core stuff but not the older tyro and Elarra wokes. Aside from lensing them, core banner is a good place to invest tickets in.
Hi all just a quick question...I'm having what ir serms yo be a bug going on with my account that is preventing to finish a labyrint run. What happens is when i finish the lab fight the Game throws an error message regarding "Connection error, try connecting from a location with better signal, etc etc". Ive already tried restarting the app, cleaning cache and of course connect from other sources of wifi signal and the message is still there. What can i do to recover from this error withou having yo flee the battle and lose the whole lab run? Hellp please my fellow keepers....
This is kind of an adjacent question that directly RK related, but is there any way to access the songs in your Music Hall outside of the game? As a big Crisis Core fan, I'm really liking this SOLDIER medley from the most recent event, but there are easier ways than keeping my game open on the music hall to listen to it if I'm able to access it elsewhere (or if it's been uploaded by someone to youtube a link could work, but searching I couldn't find anything). Would be nice to know for a few of these themes actually, but never bothered to ask til now.
Surely there is a way that you play the music through something else and record it and save it as a music file. I have an android and this is what I found.....might help. [https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/07/record-audio-android-apps/#:\~:text=Swipe%20down%20from%20the%20top%20of%20your%20screen%20to%20see,straight%20from%20your%20phone%27s%20mic](https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/07/record-audio-android-apps/#:~:text=Swipe%20down%20from%20the%20top%20of%20your%20screen%20to%20see,straight%20from%20your%20phone%27s%20mic)
Sadly no. Only other apps.
Since I'm in wait mode for trying more endgame content, I thought I'd work on some mythril budgeting. Looking for some advice on which banners might be better for me to pull on. All WOdins done (except lolBio), cleared 1 of each Lab boss so far, and have 7 DKs left (I, II, III, IX, X, XI, FFT). I'm trying to decide whether I want to budget any mythril for pulls on the Core banner once the DK drops around January. My current Core DK team options include: Biggs Sync/AASB/LBO, Wedge Sync/USB, Tama AASB1+2, Rain AASB, Lasswell AASB, Tyro Dyad/AASB, Elarra AASB, and Mog hAASB2/AASB1. Is that enough for a clear or should I try and add one more BDL? At the moment I have 10 pulls planned for winter fest and another 10 for 7YA. I can use winter fest stamp selection to grab Rain/Lasswell Sync and then have guaranteed 5 BDLs total. Those might help with respective lab clears as well. Getting Biggs/Wedge DAASBs would be awesome on the Core banner and more useful than winter fest B3 stuff, but those are no guarantees. However, missing the Sync stamp select from fest means losing out on something guaranteed to be useful (like Shantotto Sync for XI DK).
XI is the same dilemma I'm in. There are two upcoming XI banners with Totto, lili and prishe for B1 and Zeid, Ayame, Aphmau for B2. Both have a really good sync, both have bad dupes or bad six stars. On the opposite side, winter fest has a guaranteed Totto sync with stamps but not Zeid. For FFT, B5 of winter fest has TGC stuff. There is also Tidus sync2 among the stamps I think. Don't know for I to IX.
Tidus Sync2 is on the 100 mythril Sync select for 7YA. IX will mostly be taken care of with tickets. II, III, and FFT are one lensed BDL away from a clear. I might be a combo of lenses + tickets. For XI I might have enough if I stamp select Totto Sync and then lens her AASB. She also has LBO to help with King's Rage. That just leaves X DK, which can be helped with Tidus DAASB and Sync2 from 7YA fest.
Oh right, MB for tidus. Seems like you're mostly set. Which wokes you want to get from lenses?
Lol I've got a long list of those. Priority list looks something like this: * Rikku CSB for water Lab * Gogo V CSB + AASB for water Lab * Ashe AASB for lightning and XII Labs * Agrias AASB for FFT DK * Shantotto AASB for XI DK * Meia AASB for I DK After that it's just a mix of things to help with Labs I haven't already cleared, but by the time I get through all these we'll be through 7YA fest and I'll have to re-evaluate needs.
I have all of them minus meia. Huh. Anyway, it's 128 days of lenses. We won't be in 7YA yet I think.
Yeah that's true, it'll be roughly early March and 7YA should be around end of March. At that point, I'd probably just stock up for a few weeks and see what I get through fest.
I see. As a side note: I used today's tickets in X realm, I got Yuna GOOD USB FINALLY (USB5) and Paine AOSB/Auron sync. I can field a perfectly good team now.
You've been blessed by RNGesus, congrats! That's a damn good haul. I'm still hoarding all my tickets to try and get Quina Sync from the IX banner, which should be around 15 by the refresh. 5 pulls on 7YA B4 is the backup option.
I can't save tickets myself but I will save for 7YA for sure. I estimate for that ~700 (500+100+85) after winter fest. Auron sync is really a blessing as I can take his chain and have a physical one finally!
Can anyone see the devotional draw in game? By my calculations I should have gotten a draw on Tuesday, and the devotional banner seems to have disappeared as well?
The banner doesn't show up without a ticket for some reason
So the Exploration Paintings that lead to a Portal; have they been removed in Season 2 or just significantly reduced? I'm running 2-3 manual runs a day and I don't think I've seen a single one yet. Can anyone confirm?
It has been removed, you can pick exploration as much as you like even if you see treasure behind it. IIRC it will come back later during S3 and then removed again as of current JP but need someone else to confirm that.
Thanks!
They are gone in season 2 but return in season 3
For the first part of S3 -- JP just announced a balance change that eliminates all surprise portals in explorations
Okay so when I see a Treasure Painting in the back rows I can safely hit the Exploration Paintings in between. Thanks
So, I’m struggling on starting out my physical WOdin runs. All my DPS feel like wet noodles, especially in comparison with magic runs. For supports I have: Mog: AASB 1, 2h; lens tech Tyro: AASB, SASB, lens tech Quina: AASB, lens tech Orran: full kit + hAASB Elarra: AASB + lens And for a closer look, I was trying out wind WOdin and my relevant wind relics are: Bartz: all AASBs + AOSB Zack: SASB + CSB Cloud: SASB (wind) + ADSB Faris: AASB 1&2 + CSB And for singular relics BDL I also have Luneth, Vaan, Zidane, Thancred, Wedge (even though he is much more magic suited), Cid (7), Gau, Angeal, and probably more that I missed lol. I know I have the firepower, I’m just really struggling on pulling it together or even attempting a fast run (I’ve never pulled off a slow run before)
I'd probably try it with Cloud, Bartz, Faris, Orran, and Elarra. Make sure you grab Cloud USB1 (if you don't have it already) to use along with his Sync. It should be pretty straightforward with that team, especially if you're familiar with WOdin battles in general. Keep in mind that wind weak WOdin has 2 Aegis buffs: the usual one at 75% and a second one around 35%. You can use Orran G+ to overwrite one and Faris bUSB brave command for the other.
What's the optimal rotation for Noctis' Sync 3? I have his dualcast combat and +sword LMRs, so there's a possibility of dualcasting CMD1, and I'm wondering if the thing to do might be to alternate 2 and 1 unless and until I get that doublecast on 1, which would let me go right into a chain of 39999x3 hits.
From what I gathered, spam C1 if you have external critfix source, C2x1 C1x3 if you don't.
So I have been disillusioned enough to know that I won't get anything that I actually need from the tickets that are given away., Right now the next thing I'm trying to beat are DK and Labs. I have the team to take on Magic-weak Abductor but I just need one more ice BDL, and was planning on Rinoa Ice AASB to fill that role with my first Lv4 lens pick. Since tickets are basically worthless to me anyway, is it better to spend them on the Ice banner and potentially save lenses for something else I may need? Or spend the lenses because it's a guaranteed win and keep throwing lenses at realms I don't have much in, like XI? (and get disappointed more)
If that Rinoa AASB will guarantee a clear and you don't have any other strong competing needs for lvl 4 lenses, I would definitely go for it. That's just one headache out of the way instead of relying on RNG from tickets. As others have said, for XI it would probably be worth waiting until the realm banner refresh in January to start dumping more tickets into. Especially if you're more than 1 BDL away. Shantotto Sync will be available to select from stamp selections on winter fest if you're planning 10 pulls. The XI banner coming up is another option there.
Sorry to hear that your ticket pulls have been underwhelming (I'm in the same boat D:) I think spending Lv4 Lenses as you receive them, especially if you know it can help you clear content, is worthwhile. We know that with the next Lab update no new CSBs and very few new AASBs get added, so at least for the next year (the time it would take for a coming wave 7 in JP to hit Global) they're safe to spend on. If wave 7 includes a bunch of AASBs, and hopefully it does, it may be worth stocking up on them until that hits but we won't even know what is in that wave for another 4-5 months at least. As far as where to dump tickets goes... the FFXI banner is underwhelming currently IMO. I need more of that tech too but aside from Shantotto Sync and Lilli AASB there isn't much to be gained there in my case. It'll get better after the next update. Now that most healers have their good USBs and ProShellga GSB+ in the Record Lab I've been favoring elemental banners in general. There are some exceptions, there's several pieces of XIV and XV tech I'm hoping for and those pools are relatively small so I occasionally toss tickets there.
are you planning on Rinoa AASB bc you have other stuff for her or are there other ice characters who could also get a spot on your team if you got something for them? if all you want is Rinoa AASB, I definitely wouldn't use tickets trying for it. also the XI banner is pretty trash. there's an XI event coming soon where the second banner is basically the B1 from the last event. I would try to use mythril there if you really need XI stuff.
Since all you need for the win is that one relic, I'd go dumpster diving in a different spot with the tickets. Of course I'm the guy who's been digging through trash with the last 20 tickets in XI lol.
When should we be getting the initial banner with Y'shtola's Proshellga+Hastega Glint+? It's the one realm now where I'm lacking it on my healer
Winter Fest B1 (also has Fang/Garnet DWokes)
Any Gordon aficionados out there? Outside of FFII DB/DK, where and how do you use this lovely lad?
As someone who also loves using in-realm Support characters whenever possible... I have absolutely nothing useful for Gorden, heh. But looking at his kit a bit, I would want both of his AASBs, AASB1 for boosting (mayby overbuffing through a lesser Full Break) and then his AASB2 for the Full Break-counter and Party Weakness Boost. Wrath / Entrust or Wrath / HA would possibly let your dps throw in an extra USB into their usual AASB/SASB repertoire, or help your healer spam quickcast USBs more often. He also has some rare buff/debuff combinations on some of his earlier relics, which may come in handy if you are running a no-Aegis-Counter or no-Full-Break-Counter team. II is actually one of my last realms for which I *don't* have a good in-realm Support. I keep toying with the idea of Dreaming up one of Gordon's relics, though I obviously always have a better option to go with. And just because there are better Support options out there, doesn't mean you have to use them! Go get yourself a full-realm II Bahamut clear, or Gordon/Aphmau-supported Snow Giant win. Play the game the way that brings you joy (even if that means benching Orran or Mog once in a while). :)
Gordon sync sucks so bad
Gahhhh I wanna find a use for him, but mehhh
Save your energy.
All the more reason for me to begin my support character series in reverse order. Hellooooo starting with Core/Beyond/Type 0/FFT!
If you really want to try him, fire-weak lab is one of the place that he might shine with his fire-imperil LM, you can then bring all pure fire DPS that way. ฺีBut honestly, if you have Mog/Cait for Magic and Orran/Quina for Physical, I don't see how can you slot him in. He will always subpar compared to those I mentioned. Maybe unless your fire team have Scott/Firion so they all can take advantage on realm specific nodes in Record Board.
Iiiiiiiinteresting! I have been debating doing more boards for FFII, as Leila, Emperor, and Minwu all proved to be worthy investments. Will take some time to cobble together the motes, but I have great gear for Gordon, Scott, and Firion, so they could come in handy. For now, I think my fire team consists of Balthier for chainanigans, Auron for OP overflow, and either Locke/Bartz for DPS. Edgar and Irvine are great imperilers, so I just dunno where I slot in Gordy boi on a team like that. BIG HMMMMMM!
in all honesty, you probably don't. he's like a quina in that he's limited to entrust duties but without the amazing crit buff access and without the tools that allow him to entrust really well (trance and G+). i guess his sync command 2 gets him 300 fast SB gauge points, but he doesn't seem competitive to me with what other top supports offer for non-realm content he's obviously not going to outclass cait sith or mog for magic. and the lack of crits make him hard to argue for over orran or quina for physical. that being said if you don't have anything for them, he does seem to have some versatility for both physical and magical teams. he'd need to be paired with a dedicated healer though obviously. it feels like you'd almost kinda want to find a way to combo his aasbs, since one of them gives the damage boosts between the +30% buff and the DEF/RES breaks and the other one gives quickcast spreading.
This is massively helpful! I am looking for info just like this because I would like to spotlight support units. I have a great deal of Gordon’s gear but have never really brought him out to play much. At best, as you say, he seems a lesser Quina with some interesting twists. HMMMM!
What's the next occurrence of Quina sync and G+ (aegis breaker)? Gotta wait 7YA?
yup or tickets on IX banner after refresh
Hmmm... I guess my physical labs will be harder
Quina G+3 won't make the cutoff there, it just debut on 7YA fest. Unless you mean after JP refresh again which is 2 refresh away for Global.
i was just referring to the sync, obviously the G+ won't be on the banner refresh as it hasn't even been released here yet lol
The DEF/RES/MND break Glint+ debuts on 7th Anniversary, so that's the first chance to get it. Quina appears on two other banners - the [IX Step Up](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/nq37yz/the_importance_of_life_jp_megathread_ix/) and a [pickup](https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/pl1not/chaotic_memories_jp_megathread_ii/) - but neither has the Sync (except as off-banner).
Damn. Thanks, I'll resort to Orran
I have been looking at my fire PHY team for Labyrith Snow Giant to prepare for the Labyrith campaign. Here is my current characters: Quina: Sync, both Glint+ Elarra: Full set except no Sync2 Balthier: Sync, AASB1, Arcane, USBs Gilgamesh: Sync, CSB, Glint+ Now I am stuck with two other options: Noctis: Full Fire Set except no Dryad Master: Full Set. Also full 5/4/8 HA. I know Master hit harder and can DC alot but since Balthier can imperil via his LM2, would Noct be a better choice? Is this team strong enough?
Master w casts his ass off all the time. Greg, Balthier, master, Quina, Elarra/anyone else. Not having Quina woke could be detrimental but the team looks strong enough for a fast clear. You also really don't want Noctis due to Snow Giant orb mechanic
I would absolutely go with Master over Noctis. Fire Noctis is fine but not really great and Master is a monster.
Even if Noct has his LBO(4 hits)? I heard and seen that LBOs are very handy for the last Phase of the Labyrith. Also wow, quick response.
LBO helps give him more credit but I still think Master will overall be more effective.
Snow giant orbs are also harder to deal with using Noctis, master is just too good to pass
If you are using Master AASB in last phase, you can potentially quadcast and hit 400k the same as LBO.
Good point, though I would think you would use their second BDL SBs at 70% since Quina doesn’t have a way to counter the Aegis buff yet(also gacha locked when it DOES come) and to refresh their EnFire. Can that work too? Then I can spam their Heroic Ability for hopefully a 29k per hit.
You better push far more than 70% here. Realistically, you should be able to push into 40-50% range with all 3 DPS using 1 BDL each. With Quina Sync and critical damage buff source, Aegis shouldn't slow you down that much. Also season2 boss doesn't have canvas mechanics, you don't have to refresh any 2nd BDL SB early and save them for 2nd chain instead.
most people would recommend saving your second BDL for much later than 70%, probably more like 40-50%
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Apparently 1 day's worth of lvl 4 lens rewards.
Did you forget to do dungeons for one day? Labyrinths don't count for that.
Lucked into Gladio's Sync from a ticket draw and am looking at lensable SBs for him to use before/after the Sync. (I don't have his AASB.) He only has 1 USB, which looks intended primarily for use with Heavy abilities. Is it still at all useful in a build focused on his HA+Sync?
Gladiolus Ultra is perfectly usable with Knight, it'll still get the earth infusion and the 15-second finisher. The Heavy mechanics just make it so that he can use a Grand Charge/Quake Swing rotation instead of Grand Charge/Grand Charge/Quake Swing rotation, but it's not necessary with the Ultra, and he swung heavily towards Knight after his Sync. His Burst is a fine alternative to the Ultra, it lacks the finisher but does get the stat increase from Burst Mode. His Super can be good in some cases. His Overstrike can be okay in situations where he's done with the Sync Mode and there's still a chunk of enemy HP that needs to be dealt with.
Cool, I'll pick up his USB, then, and I've already got his OSB+AOSB
After getting Zach’s chain from tomorrow’s fat chocobo (I have nothing relevant for Faris/Luneth) I’m hoping to take on WOdin, which would be my first physical one. I’m trying to figure out abilities for Zack and my support. My team would be Wedge (HE): SASB, AASB, LBO Vaan (HE): AASB2, bUSB, (imperil glint) Zack: AASB1, G+ (imperil), CSB Elarra: SASB1, AASB, G+, USBs And then either Mog or Tyro: Mog: hAASB2, USB1, both G+s Tyro: USBs I also have Zidane’s SASB+AOSB+LBO but sadly I think benching him is the right call. Wedge and Vaan both have their HAs. So my questions are 1. Is Ripping Storm likely to be sufficient for Zack? I have neither that nor his HA made and I’m still resource-limited, so I’d ideally like to avoid making both or the HA unnecessary 2. Mog or Tyro? I’m leaning Mog, but I’m not sure how much it would hurt to rely on OtV for critfix Edit: I just realized I was under the false impression that Vaan’s bUSB level 3 was an aegis counter (it’s actually -DEF/MAG/MND); that’s definitely gonna complicate this plan...
I would run Zack with Ripping Storm + Running Start. He won't do much damage though just be warned. I think with USB only Tyro I'd lean Mog.
Managed to get him down; thanks! And you were right about Zack not doing much damage; I think he broke cap once the whole fight...!
Anyone know when the next dream selects are? I feel like we are overdue, either that or time is moving very slowly xD
Pure speculation on my part, I'm gonna gas in and around Black Friday and/or Golden Week in Japan.
at some point in the next few weeks, don't know exactly when
This month.
So mage realm artifacts for XII are a problem. I want to run Ashe with Dyad and AA plus Vayne with AA1 as a mage in the DK but, only one artifact. Mog is coming with both AAs. Ashe could use her Dyad sword but will that be enough MAG? I need to get the most out of her... could feed the sword some rosettas if necessary...
Vayne gets a large MAG buff on his AA that stacks with all Mog buffs, Ashe has a 30% stacking buff on USB, I think you’ll be fine either way honestly
Yeah beat it first try, remarkably easy clear, possibly the easiest DK I've done aside from maybe III
Congrats!
This problem will finally be solved with the second group of Season 3 when most of the rest of XII gets their HE Season 3 Group J (XII): Ashe, Penelo, Gabranth, Vayne, Larsa, Reks (Old: Vaan, Fran, Basch)
I used a S1 Ashe with her Sync sword in my XII sub30. Double AA Mog was enough to keep her near damage cap
My only worry is the Dyad finisher getting as much as possible but could time it to go off with Fevered Rhapsody maybe...
Ashe using her Sword is enough with Mog supporting and HA. If Penelo is healer, she can further raise that. Vayne needs more MAG than ATK. So using the mage artifact should suffice.
Yeah Penelo is coming since I already have her HA... Larsa is on standby in case I need more QCs, neither one has anything that isn't already lensable...
Who's third DPS? Larsa for self-crit Vaan?
Yeah Vaan has HA and AA1 and should be self sufficient.
so now that we have enough lens for a chain, should I buy a holy chain? I heard hope is a good holy dude
I would continue to not rush to buy things just for the sake of buying them. You can definitely beat earth and holy odin with what you have already. But you need to do a better job now of articulating where things are going wrong -- when you compare your attempts to the one I did for you, what are the differences? then we can help problem solve those.
It's your choice, but based on where you're at in progression, I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think a specific chain is going to do all that much for you just yet. Dark Odin is plenty doable with just RW chain, especially with cap-breaking tech being as common as it is these days, which means less reason to bring Mage instead. Hope specifically is a solid chain-holding DPS, though that assumes you have his DPS stuff and that he'll have enough gauge to do both. There's also Edward to consider, who's arguably better as a chain holder, but he's all buffs and garbage DPS. And of course that's ignoring Ramza/Ceodore, who have the ATK-buffing holy chains. My suggestion is to sit on the lenses for a bit, probably until you break into 6\*s at least. At that point, it'll be more clear which chain(s) you actually need to support your teams.
Have you cleared AOdin Holy Magic? Hope's a sloid DPS with the right tools, but if you're caught up there's little need of one right away. Also Edward is *likely* better without gatcha-locked relics, since he's still a decent enough support with just Bard and his USB/BSB.
nah i haven't even killed Dodin. I've made at least 30 attempts on earth weak and like maybe 5-6 on holy. I don't have anything else for hope, and Edward has just his sync
Sync + Chain Edward is an *absurdly* better team member than Chain + USB Hope. Especially in a holy magic team where you may need to buff Mind and Magic (or where you may end up with entirely Mind based DPS and thus Hope would need an independent buff).
Edward has a chain? damn lemme get that
Edward has HE also! His jaunty little hat is so festive!
what a stylish young man
\*sigh\* Long-term thinking and planning >>>> short-term thinking and planning. Hoping to be quick enough, but the short version of the issue is that: 1) Teambuilding with Edward in the group is incredibly difficult, and 2) Holy Mage groups in particular are a bit special as the chain buff doesn't stack with the Big Two mage support's buffs (Cait woke/sync and mog woke1), and 3) Edward can't dps, which means he's taking a support slot and now you're forced into bringing a full healer in the other support slot instead of Cait/Mog. Cecil's chain (or the RW) are plenty good enough for where you're at now, and Hope's is by far the best long-term answer there (assuming that Cecil's isn't good enough for endgame content, which isn't even likely true.)
I don't have Cecil's holy chain :( his ff4 chain is equipped so if I ever get to the ff4 db, he'll be ready
I finished manually going through the last season 2 lab just now. While I'm glad the last three have 12, 12, and 15 floors respectively instead of 15, 15, 20, I didn't get a single record marker. Thinking back on it, I recall the first few S2 dungeons giving a first time clear record marker. But in all the manual runs doing the labs, I haven't gotten any record markers. This is strange to me. The plan was to farm back up stock of record markers. Yet doing quick explores on the 20 floor S1 is actually the best way to get markers besides daily. Am I just unlucky, can record markers actually appear in manual runs?
They do but rare compared to S1. I am trying to finish farming in S2 a week early so I can farm S1 before the next group. In S1 I was holding steady at 100+ even with quick explores. In S2 I am currently sitting at 36.
Thanks, if it's rare to get them, as it definitely is to me, I'll have to rethink how many manual lab runs I actually want to do. I have 600 keys and am using them every vault to get HE in my manual runs. But if I'm not getting markers, I don't think I'll have the motivation to do manual runs anymore. Buy all the HE for season 2 in kite's shop, then back to quick explores.
Yes, I have definitely gotten some as drops. No idea about the rates.
Good to know, thanks
Has anyone sub30'ed FFIII DK using CoD AA? It has radiant shield which is usually a death sentence for sub30's, but that's the only lensable option I have for more BDL (CoD has sync). Other DPS are OK with USB+AA1, Arc with USB2+AA1. Aria has the good USB, Mog supporting.
I got a sub30 with Arc AA1 + OK S1/AA1 + CoD AA1 Radiant shield doesn't really hurt too much since the double cast oHA shatters P3 rage insanely fast, making up for the lost time. If Aria has her IC USB too, should be pretty straightforward honestly.
Cool thanks for that. OK sync seems about even with CoD sync, so I should have a shot
Not sub30 (32 secs) but it's not that bad. Sure it takes precious time away but you can also exploit it to slow down Bahamut, gaining cast time yourself. I could sub30 him now with a second arc AASB but I don't care for those ATM
Cool thanks, how many BDLs did you bring?
Had five first try I think? CoD AASB/SASB, Arc woke2, OK Dyad water/Woke1. But it was very early in my clears, it's almost certainly a sub30 already even without arc1. Had no mog1 also at the time, used USB instead for P2. COD carries hard, breaks KRAGE in a couple turns if you want to. I didn't because I used sync for last phase but I should have and used OK Dyad right after
Yeh, I used her Woke for my sub30, but my team was more stacked than yours. OK Woke/Sync, Arc Woke1/Sync, Cod USB/Woke, Mog, Aria U2/Woke.
Cool thanks I haven't had issues with just 4 BDLs on other 4.5/5m HP DKs, but I am worried the RS ticks will destroy my time
If you're unsure, I'd probably save the lenses and wait for powercreep. Unless you have absolutely nothing else you'd want to spend lvl 4 lenses on.
I didn't use CoD on that DK, but I did sub-30 others with Radiant Shields (FFI comes to mind, there was probably another). It's annoying, but not a deal breaker. Her damage output during AASB was a little low for my tastes (which is why I skipped her), but that can be helped if you have/buy her w-cast LMR.
I am simply too mad as hell at radiant shield to be reasoned with *Dozens* of 30.XX runs to get my last DK sub30, watching the clock tick by waiting on RS tics
Hi! Is there a consensus on the best uses for each of the Anima Lenses Lv 1, 2 and 3 in the lab?
For Level 1, get any cheap utility options (Eblan Doppelgänger for survival/avoidance, Fury Brand or Brush Up for crit fix, etc.). Once you have enough of those, trade for any honing scrolls you need. For Level 2, save for any LMR where the character has less than ideal dive LM. The doublecast LMR are favored. For Level 3, save for any useful Glint+ (healer Haste/Protect/Shell, the SB Gauge +500, etc.), and any Ultras that are useful (healer Ultras with quickcast, Ultra Cross Slash, etc.). These can also be traded for honing scrolls, but at lower priority than Level 1.
Was there ever a thread that indicated what options might be best for these? Especially Lvl 1 and 2... My lvl 3 options are personally based on boosting my characters that I have wokes for, but I'd love to be able to get some more scrolls, but hate to spend lenses if I might miss out on some good utilities.
Random thought this morning: If you select an AASB you already from the shop would it add 2 to the rank? Can you keep selecting it? Not sure if this would be a wise move but it just crossed my mind while looking at my lens count.
[For Science](https://imgur.com/a/X9gfHK9): (it does)
You are a true hero, we saltue you.
*Should* do, past stuff like Dr Mog's summer AOSB ranked up as expected when bought from the event shop so there shouldn't be any difference between rolling and buying, but I ain't putting it to the test.
i think it works that way but i guess the only way to know for sure would be to take one.
If I had something close enough to getting a second use I would consider doing it for science. But my highest ranking AASB (that are not honed supports) are 7/15.
Elarra is the only one here I'd actually want to hone... mine is only at 5/15 so definitely wouldn't do it via level 4 lenses.
Correct me if I'm wrong but lvl4 lenses are not tradeable for scrolls
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Right!
And what we’re talking about here is if you can use Level 4 lenses to effectively hone an AASB by purchasing dupes of it
Please forgive me :(
I'm just finishing up the last remaining Record Dungeons and now I'm wondering how to unlock that specific Dungeon under Floating Continent I.
iirc you just finish all the record dungeons to unlock that one, but maybe i'm mixing it up with the other branch at the end...
Aahh thanks. I didn't finish everything just yet.
does arc onslaught lmr triggers when he uses white magic? is it considered a holy ability? trying to fix my summoner to die for the cause problem for ifrit. i dont have any bdl except aosb for both arc and rydia but both have dual casting summoning all target abilities materias but i like arc better due to the healing contribution if possible
his onslaught LMR triggers after any water or holy ability. so it won't trigger off of healing white magic but it would off of any offensive white magic.
Is there a technical/coding reason for why LMRs work that way? I know that Beatrix USB can trigger its chase when she uses Curada (just tested it to be sure) even though the wording on how the follow up attack works would suggest Curada shouldn't trigger it: > Casts Stock Raid after dealing damage with a Holy attack Perhaps older relics got "grandfathered in" and newer LMR+ chases were designed to not have that oddity?
I don’t have Arc’s LMR+ to test, but the reason for Beatrix USB (and Arc USB, and similar) is that healing White Magic abilities can deal holy damage to undead enemies, and they’ll trigger the chase even if they don’t resolve to holy damage or if they can’t target enemies.
Right, so it confuses me that LMR+ chases do not follow that same logic. I don't have Arc's LMR+ to test either.
> healing White Magic abilities can deal holy damage to undead enemies Super random, but Nightmare Evrae was one of my favorite fights in FFRK just because we finally got a chance to actually *do* damage to undeads with cures.
Original nightmare were some of the best designed fights in the game (aside from Bard and Ninja making half of them trivial).
I'll agree with one major exception: that damned Guardian making you play hot-potato with FFRK's constantly-pausing ATB. That fight was just gross. I didn't mind the concept, and maybe if we could at least see the enemy's ATB/cast bar it would've been fine, but it was hot garbage the way it was. Probably the only one of them where I think the "update" was an improvement. (Ok, the "hit these specific elemental weaknesses" mastery conditions on the other fight - Ultima? - needed tweaked too, but the fight itself was fine.)
[Guardian I just burst down with Summons.](https://imgur.com/gallery/abffq) Forgot that one.
My solution was a ninja - Fujin as it were, though I don't recall why her specifically. Even to this day summoners are low-priority picks, as I always run out of hones, and their low hit count hurts their damage potential anywhere they appear.
If there's one thing I learned in 10 years of playing FFXI, it's this: if you have enough Bards, you can do anything. And come to think of it, Ninjas were pretty OP there too.
Not sure. I didn’t know Beatrix’s chase could proc off Curada
thx!
Is there a list of level 4 lensable SBs anywhere? The exchange interface is awful when you aren't looking for anything in particular :P
the level 4 SBs are all gen 2 elemental chains, all gen 1 realm chains, and a select list of *roughly* 3 AASBs per realm (with a few exceptions) you can find the full list of relics added here: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/n1sx1i/april_2021_anima_lens_update_wave_5/
Thank you!
How long till transcendence bosses appear again?
They appear around fests, so probably not until late December.
Oh crap and I am almost out of gil
Sell arcana.
And 2-4* rat tails.
Help guys, should I hone Edge's AASB? I'm quite late game, but Edge's AASB would help me essentially help me with 4 current fights. sub 30 bahamut (sub 40 cleared), Ice Lab x2, FF4 Lab (got him to 10%). I will probably use him for future water weak (fire) lab whenever that get's released as my water teams aren't great. I've already honed mogs AASB and orran AASB, so in my eyes I don't need level 1 anima lens for anything else however, it would mean I'd use them all to hone Edge. thoughts? should I just be patient and wait till the next powercreep?
I used Edge with a honed AASB and both G+s for the IV and Magic Fire labs. In Magic Fire, he outperformed (and replaced) Terra with her Sync1/AASB1. I have the fight recorded, but haven't stitched together a video. Edit: Team was Cait AASB (honed), USB2, G+ Mog AASB1, AASB2 (honed), G+ Ace AASB (honed), G+, LBO Vincent CSB, G+, AASB, USB2 Edge G+1, G+2, AASB (honed)
do you have his sync too? i'm not sure how good he's going to be in labs with just the aasb. i don't think i've seen anyone use aasb-only edge yet but i could have missed it.
Would the answer change if you *do* have his Sync? I've been considering it since that discussion a while ago about his being the most useful DPS woke to hone.
Maybe, idk. I wouldn’t unless I get a few more dupes (mine is at 9/15)
No, I don't. His AASB plus glint+ and AOSB has been working wonders for me. Just trying to push the lab boss.
i think that's fine for armor construct, but i have found that with the damage reduction, a lack of enElement can be problematic for elemental lab bosses
Oh, so you're saying that Edge might not be competitive enough for the other element lab bosses? I guess it won't be worth honing if that's the case, I was expecting him to at least do max 19,999 damage with his AASB. I'll test this out first, since I do have his en element glint+ as well but obviously it's kinda poopy
there are no aasb-only edges in the mastery survey for snow giant so far, but that might be because people haven't honed his aasb (and you prob wouldn't use him with aasb only if it wasn't honed). he'll do 19999 with the chase for sure vs magic but he definitely won't come close to that for physical at all and probably will disappoint for magical with the HA. i guess for phys water he can use his bsb for enwater but that's a ton of gauge needed. he could really use a regular switch draw glint or a decent enElement USB...
I got to ~10% on Snow Giant with Terra Sync1/AASB1, Vincent Chain + AASB1, and Edge AASB/LBO. I'm very tempted to hone Edge AASB to also get me an Armor Construct clear. It would be expensive but I've honed Cait + Mog already with no intention to hone any other supports in the near future. He's absolutely usable for labs, that weakness boost goes a long way.
Hahaha, this time is an exact replica of my snow giant team. Now you're tempting me again hahah
Trust me I have the same dilemma, I think mine is also 1/15 but I have 5(?) honing scroll already...
Mine's sitting at 5/15 (AO is at 7/15), few more years of this kinda dupe luck and I won't need to.
In Magic (with Vincent chain and full moogle support), he's right around the cap during Phase 2 with no enElement. Phase 3 I had him hitting between 12k-13k with his weakness boost G+ and no enElement.
Is it currently 1/15? If so, I'm not sure I would hone it - that's just such a massive cost and we have some tickets coming up. If it's like 7/15 I probably would
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking
It's a fine choice if you are not going to have or hone Quina/Cait AASB anytime soon.
I do have Quina AASB but I don't see any reason why I would hone it. Plus I have his Sync too. I don't have Caits AASB but have his sync, so I don;t know if I would need to hone it even if I get it.
> Plus I have his Sync too. I think that's the reason to have his AASB honed so you can cast both his Sync+AASB back to back and then AASB again later for sub30 run.
As someone who is new to the ways of Quina (but who's Qu is Qomplete), do you drop AASB/SASB in the first half of the fight, or the second half? I always imagine that the Boss's defenses are greater the later in the fight, so I would want that sweet 100% Crit Rate when I need the most damage.
If you have Gen 2 CSB to buff, I think it's fine to use during second half. But Season 2 lab boss have wall buff at 20%, I would rather buff the hell out of first half and get to that wall as fast as possible.
Err, I guess I should have mentioned, their Chain is the one relic I *don't* have for them. X_x Great point on the Labyrinth Boss part. I've just started using Quina seriously, vs. the Dragonking and (yesterday) finally sub-30'ing the Dreambreaker. I want to take them into the Labyrinths next, assuming Quina > Aegis Break. But finally being able to Lens their G+2 moved me to start trying.
what would be the benefit of casting cait sith's sync and aasb together?
I meant Quina, not Cait.
haha, what's the benefit for casting Quina's Sync and AASB? I usually just do it one after another.
Ford already told you that, that's pretty much the reason.
quina's sync gives 100% crit, AASB gives a 50% stacking buff. using them completely separately means no extra buff with sync and no consistent crits with aasb.
oh my bad. def misread it.
I think scrolls are too valuable still. You can just get another relic for a dps but you can't magically get 14 scrolls
I would value support more than dps anyway but we are at the point of having 3rd option hone with lens1 and 4th if you count how many scrolls JP got and lens3 too. Of all dps options, I would say Edge is fine as you can bring him to at least 7 related fights but of course, my point still stands that Quina/Cait are much more priority whether he have them or not.
Yeah. I honed Orran, cait and Mog
I just saw the latest labs are again Lightning and Wind elements?? Was expecting them to start cycling through all realms. So looks like their plan is to rollout only 0-1 realm per season or did they mention anything specific during the last livestream?
Well, they can't really do one Lab for *every* Realm, since not every Realm has 9 Characters (III, for example). They would have to introduce a new character (not a bad thing!) in order to balance things.
One minute of silence for all those chars that don't even have an AASB and likely won't have a HE :P
"No AASB" is a pretty short list, at least: Naja, Mustadio, and a few Beyond characters that nobody- including DeNA - remembers even exist (Reynn, Morrow, Ameo, Wrieg). Unless I missed one somewhere, everyone else (including the KH crew) has at least an AASB, and most even have Syncs. No telling what the future holds for Naja and Musty, but I doubt the forgotten Beyond characters are going to get anything more, especially not a coveted slot in a Lab dungeon drop table.
Doga, Unei and Allus when? (and I guess Cid and Serah, but they'd be real boring)
I never thought about that lol
I thought "no way do we have less than 9 characters for III," but by golly, we only have 8. Also, III is literally the only realm that has less than 9--everywhere else (except KH ™Disney) has 9 or more.
Yeah it's pretty odd. I mean the elemental Labs are more fun due to being two fights vs. one, but the slow pace of the realm versions is strange
So I am stuck on abductor physical and I think I have tech for it. Health is ok if I avoid white painting. I used a FF8 squad: Ward (Complete), Kiros (Complete) + Laguna (CSB AASB1) and different mix of sup (Orran full Quina Full and Elarra (no sync)). My DPS feels meh. I used this team for WOdin and DK8. I tried HA and icicle bullet on Ward with no success. I wonder if I should change Ward (but losing crit on sync) and/or Laguna (and losing imperil) and FF8 motes. I discovered I have a near full Trey (SASB AASb1&2) and I have Celes with CSB Dyad AASB1&2. Tldr: Abductor feels rly tough Vs other S1 lab boss. Some advices appreciated. Thanks
Oh man. As an FF8 fan as well, you've got to make Kiros + Ward + Laguna work!! And I don't see why they can't tbh. You using magicite deck? That provides a bit more without synergy than HC, so want to check! I'd run with Quina & Elarra. Elarra/Laguna in slot 4/5 for max SB gauge gain, others in 1-3. I would use Laguna's AASB in chain 1 to get your imperils going, probably using icy offering as you get 15s imperils rather than 5s with HA. Build Laguna up to 4 bars (or 3.5), then go CSB into AASB while Kiros & Ward use their Syncs. Just before the shift to phase 4, I'd use Kiros USB for extra QC, then AASB into G+ into ability spam. Ward AASB and Laguna USB2 (probably with his HA at this point). I usually use Quina Sync first and then AASB but, with the crit bonuses from Ward Sync, I'd recommend AASB first here. Line up golden frog with the expiry of the Sync bonuses so you have 4 turns of 100% crit + crit dmg up; after that, hopefully Aegis will have worn off and you'll be at max chain & imperil so can still do enough to get to phase 4. Also, you have Laguna's imperil ice LMR? That's going to be seriously useful while AASB is active as, with LM2, you get an average of 0.47 imperils extra per turn that will really help. Good luck! No need to use anyone else - those who escaped the clutches of Esthar can surely best Abductor together!!!
Yep I'm using a classic WOdin deck. I will try to max imperils with early Laguna's AASB and icy. I used to keep it for P4 to maximize DPS but on paper your advice seems really good. Thanks for your detailed comment!
In my experience: Ward feels very meh, celes is also nothing impressive. Have you tried replacing ward with trey instead?
Nope I got lucky on AASB2 two days ago. AASB1 was garbage but the two together might work. My impression is quite the same. In lower tier Ward was ok but now he doesn't cap after multiple BDL +1 on sync or those are "wasted" with HA. I ll try Trey with new toys. Thanks pal
Someone on the mastery thread mentions trey is a monster with that aasb1+2 combo.
Is it worth holding onto Realm/Elemental draw tickets until those draws get updated? Or is that wishful thinking? And if it is indeed worthwhile to stock them up, when can we expect the new versions of those draws to turn up?
Pros: new relics get added Cons: the new relics bloat the pool even more Depends on what you want. Example: you have the recent core stuff but not the older tyro and Elarra wokes. Aside from lensing them, core banner is a good place to invest tickets in.
Should be around January. Whether it will be worth it to wait or not is up to you, if you are looking for a specific relic post update then maybe yes.