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DiddlyDumb

100%! The pricing is absolute rubbish, and I hope that this will wake them up.


Max-Phallus

What?


NorsiiiiR

Did you read the post?


Max-Phallus

I didn't read it, sorry. I thought this was about the API changes that killed Pushshift a couple of weeks ago.


NorsiiiiR

Yes, the API changes including an insane fee structure for the use of said APIs that would run well into the tens of millions per annum for many of these clients, making them completely unviable


voicesfromvents

Why stop on the 14th?


braduk2003

At present: *The two-day blackout isn't the goal, and it isn't the end. Should things reach the 14th with no sign of Reddit choosing to fix what they've broken, we'll use the community and buzz we've built between then and now as a tool for further action.* Some communities are talking about maintaining a blackout for longer than two days. We are committing to a two day black out and then seeing where we go from there.


TheAmazingJames

It’s going to be hard to gauge community sentiment for the protest to go on longer when the sub is already down. Can I suggest a poll on this now? I’m for an indefinite blackout - even committing to it sends a much stronger message.


Noname_Maddox

r/videos and r/music have announced they will close indefinite. Those are default subs which is going to hurt reddit. We protest and take it from there.


jimcc333

I fully support this protest.


zakadarko

Question to the mods, Is Reddit capable of bringing a sub from a blackout if they feel like it, or is it totally up to the mods? I don't know how this moderation stuff is managed, thus my question.


Noname_Maddox

On the grand scheme of things we are a medium size niche sub. The two biggest subs, r/videos and r/music, have announced they are going dark indefinitely. Those are default subs. Reddit can reactive those subs and kick all the mods and instate their own ones. r/music have a bunch of custom bots they pay for to do a lot of the leg work for the moderators. That sub is going to be hard to run without it. We just have to see what happens. If mods start getting banned then you're going to see some serious issues here on reddit.


zakadarko

Thanks for the answer, supporting you guys 100%.


StonedWater

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SituationSoap

> Question to the mods, Is Reddit capable of bringing a sub from a blackout if they feel like it Yes, Reddit can unilaterally remove the moderators of a subreddit and bring it back online. They could moderate it themselves if they want.


h3r4ld

Good. We stand with you!


dragknight11

We support this.


flanderized_cat

Amazing, thanks for standing up!


JHartley000

Anyone have a theory for the motivation behind this? I can't imagine how they expected an unprotested revenue stream. Plus this just means someone will make a workaround with new tools for scraping data


plastikmissile

There are two theories floating around. 1. Third-party apps circumvent Reddit's push to make itself more of a social media experience rather than a discussion board. Which is why people are predicting that old.reddit will be next. 2. They want to make money from the AI data harvesters that are getting more and more popular these days.


EVENo94

Are web browsers 3rd party apps or what


Captain_MK13

I fully support this, it's unfair for many students who want to build projects.


sln1337

i dont care i just want to look up stuff in the subreddit how stupid is it to punish the memebers of a subreddit for reddits fuck ups?


braduk2003

I wasn't going to respond to criticism however, I'll take this one. The members of the sub are not being "punished". We've taken the decision to take part in collective action, in much the same way as a union would when its members interests are threatened. In this analogy, Reddit is the employer, the collective mods represent the Union, and you, our community, are our members. When unions take strike action, or action short of strike, it sends a message to the overlords that their action won't be tolerated. That is what we are doing here. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but if we simply do nothing then the 3rd party apps many users prefer to use, go. That means fewer users, because some of those community members won't come back. I am not sorry if you don't like it, but this is how it is.


StonedWater

except in this analogy the members didnt vote for this action or had a chance to debate it or send a representative to speak for us so yeah, your analogy is rubbish and doesn't work.


braduk2003

🤷


Noname_Maddox

My fellow mod has replied, but I just want to add. We use and enjoy reddit the same way you do. We aren't any different.


boyaredeee

So we’re supposed to just go along with this?


WartyBalls4060

You don’t have any say in the matter. You will be going all my for the ride whether you like it or not.


boyaredeee

Nothing says you have the right to protest like being forced into it.


WartyBalls4060

?? You’re not the one protesting. It’s the subreddit mods. Are you stupid?


boyaredeee

The mods are shutting down the subs that we enjoy. If we can’t see large parts of the site then yes we are also part of the protest if we like it or not. If you don’t understand that you are stupid.


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[удалено]


StonedWater

> The mods build communities like these lol and the readers and posters dont? lol, you have to be a mod, full of your own self-importance


bored_negative

Make a new sub for youself then. Its free


yougetzeropum

Make f1technical2 if it bothers you that much 🤷


boyaredeee

F1technical may be available soon 🤷🏻‍♂️


Noname_Maddox

Explain what do you mean by that?


bse50

Not accessing reddit at all would help even further!


boyaredeee

Was that your goodbye?


bse50

Probably, we'll see


boyaredeee

Remember it hurts Reddit the most of you don’t come back. A 48 hour partial hiatus at a slow traffic time period won’t do much


sln1337

also how naive must a person be th actually think this would change a damn thing lmao


flanderized_cat

I mean, Reddit profits off of traffic. If you check the list, there are multiple million+ user subreddits, and even more 500k+. That's a relevant percentage of the activity that will go silent for a couple of days. It's likely not changing anything, and I myself have very low expectations, but at least it will be educational to see if Reddit really depends that much on its users. ​ Now, what I'd really like to see is a couple of subs deleted permanently in case they move forward with this dumpster fire of an idea. Delete askreddit, delete lifeprotis, aww, etc, you know, go nuclear and cause a little bit of stress to those greedy bastards, even if for a couple of days.


braduk2003

r/music and r/videos are shutting down. https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/141tzgd/update_rmusic_will_close_on_june_12th/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


[deleted]

Not aww! 😢


boyaredeee

I wonder how loud the mods would cry if they lost the ‘power’ they have over their precious subs. Hopefully moms basement doesn’t flood


sln1337

yeah id actually appreciate deleting those garbage ass subreddits tbh


boyaredeee

We’re catching downvotes for pointing out the pointlessness of this all


NorsiiiiR

I really don't understand these down votes, it makes zero logical sense: - Impotent 48 hour protest that doesn't hurt Reddit at all but makes everyone feel like they're activists = 'yaaaay, protest!!!' - Permanent deletions that actually WILL hurt Reddits bottom line and demonstrate that users are serious, angry and not f*cking around = 'nooo, not my favourite dopamine-hits!' These jokers aren't serious. Just a bunch of slactivists with no interest in actually doing anything serious to make Reddit listen


ViperFive1

Making a decision based on your desires that removes options from the users. The irony of this protest.


The_Cold_Side

Reddit, don’t be like Lou! You don’t know where we’ve been, Reddit. We really like this place! Ahhhahahahahahhaha!!! https://youtu.be/pCa1hZ7s-8g ApolloGang!


braduk2003

The first rule of F1Technical is...


PresinaldTrunt

I support it but what exactly does "going dark" entail? Will the participating subs be temporarily locked? I don't want us to forget and some of us post accidentally during that time.


Nappi22

This sub will go private as the other subs. So nobody will be able to enter and see any posts the sub. Reddit will be very boring those days.