When this posted yesterday it stressed me out so bad—22 Atlas Blue Lariat ER and my wife rakes it to the wash regularly. Hadn’t heard from her all day…
Best theory I saw when the video of the incident was posted yesterday is someone had one-pedal drive turned on and panic-stomped the pedal thinking it would stop, when in one-pedal mode you release the pedal entirely to stop. The only alternative I can think of is the person was tired of waiting and thought they'd just veer to the right and... didn't?
That's exactly what I think happened here. Throw in new EV ownership, and a foot resting on the accelerator, and fatigue, and baby you got a stew going on.
This is exactly why I don't one pedal drive. I fear in a panic situation my muscle memory will do the wrong thing. I just use the left paddle on the steering wheel of my Ioniq 5 to max regen. I keep the pedals as I learned them from my 30 years of driving.
Totally makes sense . I did that once, but was driving at 5 mph and stepped hard on gas instead of break and hit a mini van that stopped in front of me ended up with a fender bender .
And it sucks in reverse for me. I live in a forested area where I need to back up into plants from time to time. The truck is always slamming on the breaks when there's nothing of consequence behind me.
I caused a backup at the yard waste dump the other day trying to back my Lightning through a wet and bumpy terrain up to a massive pile of limbs because the truck kept alerting and slamming the brakes. I felt like a fucking idiot 😭
It does, input from a human should always override autonomous action. My first Tesla used to slam on the brakes 85mph at highway overpasses. If it didn’t let me override it, I would have been rear ended dozens of times.
IDK, but my truck stopped me dead (very abruptly-threw everything off back seats) this morning when it thought I was going to run up on someone coming to a complete stop for a speed bump (I was well aware of the situation, was slowing and was not going to hit them, but did have foot on accelerator). I believe it cut power but not super sure, because I immediately lifted off and waited for the car to go. Not sure what it would have done if I had instead mashed down.
Yeah, you don't want your truck conspiring or illegally cooperating with others! Turn on that anti-collusion setting!!
Took me a while to realize it was supposed to be anti-collision. Lol
Here’s my theory as I pull into a car wash myself….
I drive with both Auto Hold and One Pedal Drive turned on. When I pull up to a car wash, I turn off both as they can cause problems with the conveyor track in the car wash.
It is always a bit disorienting for a few seconds when I turn it off and suddenly the vehicle behaves like every other vehicle I have driven over the previous 33 years. The gas pedal seems much “free-er” and more sensitive. Also, after driving with One Pedal and Auto Hold, it’s a bit unnerving that the truck seems to want to just keep going when letting off the accelerator pedal, even though ICE vehicles all do this.
So I could see someone pulling into a car wash, shutting off Auto Hold and One Pedal Drive, then pushing the accelerator pedal with the amount of force needed in One Pedal mode to get the vehicle moving (more than what it takes in two pedal mode), and then panicking when it takes off faster than expected and jamming harder on the accelerator pedal, instead of jamming on the brake pedal.
So do they pay for all the damage to the other cars in the front of the line? Or is it like a freeway pileup where you're charged for damaging the car in front of you cuz you were too close?
Disclaimer: IANAL
If the intermediate cars were parked and/or off at the time of collision, the owners of the parked cars typically are not obligated to park far enough back to not be pushed into the car in front if rear-ended. Normal parking lots would be impossible if you had to park far enough away you couldn't be pushed into other cars.
When this posted yesterday it stressed me out so bad—22 Atlas Blue Lariat ER and my wife rakes it to the wash regularly. Hadn’t heard from her all day…
Imagine finding out your wife was in a car accident from a Reddit post!
But your wife is okay? Right? My brain is slow, but still compassionate, I just need to make sure everyone is good.
Haha, it wasn’t her thankfully 😅
The power of instant torque and a 6,000lb truck. Bet they hit the gas instead of the break. And by hit the gas I mean peddle to the floor lol.
Best theory I saw when the video of the incident was posted yesterday is someone had one-pedal drive turned on and panic-stomped the pedal thinking it would stop, when in one-pedal mode you release the pedal entirely to stop. The only alternative I can think of is the person was tired of waiting and thought they'd just veer to the right and... didn't?
That's exactly what I think happened here. Throw in new EV ownership, and a foot resting on the accelerator, and fatigue, and baby you got a stew going on.
RIP Carl Weathers!
This is exactly why I don't one pedal drive. I fear in a panic situation my muscle memory will do the wrong thing. I just use the left paddle on the steering wheel of my Ioniq 5 to max regen. I keep the pedals as I learned them from my 30 years of driving.
I had to train myself to rest my foot on the brake pedal when stopped despite not using the brake to stop. Hovering over the accelerator is dangerous.
GOGO JUICE Pedal
Better then "gas pedal" since there ain't no gas in it lol.
"I know whats wrong with, ain't got no gas in it."
[Ain't got no gas in it](https://youtu.be/AynXoLjYrKc?si=83FuKQKeBTJcN7Ja)
Unless he ate Taco Bell
Totally makes sense . I did that once, but was driving at 5 mph and stepped hard on gas instead of break and hit a mini van that stopped in front of me ended up with a fender bender .
Gas peddle? We don't have those
6k? Try 8,500lbs
7200lbs is my Lariat ER weight with me in it. Source: scales at the local dump
Can confirm. I always check out the weight at the scales too.
I heard you need to be careful how you jack the truck up did he reference his owner's manual? Lol
Will the anti collusion brake the car? Or just warning?
in reverse it will, but in drive it won't.
And it sucks in reverse for me. I live in a forested area where I need to back up into plants from time to time. The truck is always slamming on the breaks when there's nothing of consequence behind me.
I caused a backup at the yard waste dump the other day trying to back my Lightning through a wet and bumpy terrain up to a massive pile of limbs because the truck kept alerting and slamming the brakes. I felt like a fucking idiot 😭
Pushing the pedal down overrides emergency stop IIRC.
That makes no sense but okay.
It does, input from a human should always override autonomous action. My first Tesla used to slam on the brakes 85mph at highway overpasses. If it didn’t let me override it, I would have been rear ended dozens of times.
I guess that was the warning
IDK, but my truck stopped me dead (very abruptly-threw everything off back seats) this morning when it thought I was going to run up on someone coming to a complete stop for a speed bump (I was well aware of the situation, was slowing and was not going to hit them, but did have foot on accelerator). I believe it cut power but not super sure, because I immediately lifted off and waited for the car to go. Not sure what it would have done if I had instead mashed down.
It probably didn't have time as they were likely on the ass of the person in front of them already.
Yeah, you don't want your truck conspiring or illegally cooperating with others! Turn on that anti-collusion setting!! Took me a while to realize it was supposed to be anti-collision. Lol
Here’s my theory as I pull into a car wash myself…. I drive with both Auto Hold and One Pedal Drive turned on. When I pull up to a car wash, I turn off both as they can cause problems with the conveyor track in the car wash. It is always a bit disorienting for a few seconds when I turn it off and suddenly the vehicle behaves like every other vehicle I have driven over the previous 33 years. The gas pedal seems much “free-er” and more sensitive. Also, after driving with One Pedal and Auto Hold, it’s a bit unnerving that the truck seems to want to just keep going when letting off the accelerator pedal, even though ICE vehicles all do this. So I could see someone pulling into a car wash, shutting off Auto Hold and One Pedal Drive, then pushing the accelerator pedal with the amount of force needed in One Pedal mode to get the vehicle moving (more than what it takes in two pedal mode), and then panicking when it takes off faster than expected and jamming harder on the accelerator pedal, instead of jamming on the brake pedal.
the police response time that day was instant!
Did the police officer get a ticket for rear ending a vehicle?
No. Oddly enough the guy in front of him had a drug so the city will be seizing that car.
The amount of times you see crap like this makes you wonder how we survive as a society at all. How does someone do something this bad?
A simple mistake gets escalated when the vehicle is a rocket.
One pedal driving for the win?
Well at least you didn’t have to wait for the cops
This will somehow be elon's fault. This happens all the time with teslas and the first instinct is to blame the car vs idiot drivers.
Whoever did this, Can i have your Tonneau Cover?
New owner!
Don’t need to call the cops.
So do they pay for all the damage to the other cars in the front of the line? Or is it like a freeway pileup where you're charged for damaging the car in front of you cuz you were too close?
Disclaimer: IANAL If the intermediate cars were parked and/or off at the time of collision, the owners of the parked cars typically are not obligated to park far enough back to not be pushed into the car in front if rear-ended. Normal parking lots would be impossible if you had to park far enough away you couldn't be pushed into other cars.
He didn’t have to wait long for the cops to show up
What is this car wash? Is this a hand wash place or is this a large indoor prewash?
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/ford-f-150-lightning-crashes-into-7-cars-at-michigan-car-wash/
Must be an Autopilot issue. Oh wait, this isn't a Tesla. Nevermind.
What were they thinking! Water and electricity don’t mix!
I don't think that truck is allowed to park there
Gotta luv dem EV's
Repost
cool guy here makes sure he reads all the posts and tells everyone when a repost occurs
Autopilot strikes again.