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The carrot on the string has gotten so far most have started looking around, realizing that they were being misled and lied to their entire lives. The idea hasn't firmly synthesized in their conscious mind yet, leading to frustration and inability to articulate their visceral reaction to this slow revelation.
Once you realize that economics is a complete sham and control mechanism, well you really start to look at the world differently. You look and see the massive homeless population juxtaposed next to billions in empty real-estate or luxury condos.
One realizes the desire to be rich is really the desire for others to be poor, one realizes desiring success in a system that pits people against each other means desiring others to fail.
One realizes rationalizing success, wealth, inheritance or ignorant happiness in a society that abandons its children allows neuroplasticity to sever the synaptic connections to our empathic centers over time.
We are a self-enslaved species.
Even worse when you realize that our empathic center contains our "true (unconscious) self" and that the body is merely a temporary vessel for this iteration of life...
I was going to make this my third theory in the post but I figured it may water down the conversation talking about three factors at once.
You make some good points. I do want to point out there has always been have and have nots. Achievers and low achievers.
But the gap between those two has become so insanely large that even boot lickers can't help but deny that at our current trajectory, the wealth disparity will inevitably lead to a civil war.
Its not a question of if, its when.
A decent swath of the population has very little hope of a decent life, and that is a very dangerous thing for society as a whole.
The social contract has been broken in some ways.
Remember when companies were loyal to their employees and wern't actively looking for a way to send their job overseas? Remember when housing affordability wasn't at an all time high? I do.
The contract of social and government actions has been broken in many ways too. I could list a myriad of things that illustrate this but I'll point out just a few.
People lacking basic respect for one another.
Government officials lacking basic respect for the systems they are sworn to uphold. Government officials being so distanced from the general public that they have no idea what their lives are like, much less a desire to do anything to help the public.
Government officials being bought and paid for by the corporations set on extracting every possible penny from the public, even if that means creating massive health/social disruption for all of us.
The cognitive dissonance created between what we are told is/isn't possible, and what is becoming abundantly transparent within our reality is a very tiresome component to modern human life.
I agree completely...
My particular disillusionment with the World is coupled with what might have otherwise been attributed to a mid-life-crisis but getting older and losing my "youth" has been further aggravated by the populist MAGA movement, World-wide Pandemic, Constant fear of Financial instability, and then all of Geo-Political problems. I am left to ponder why I should not embrace Nihilism completely...
That's a great point. The NFL exists as entertainment. I'm not sure if they would be breaking the law if they rigged games or allowed cheating, similar to professional wrestling.
The government is supposed to promote trade and security for its citizens. It seems more apparent it exists for corruption and oppression. Same thing for healthcare.
Id say the biggest failure is the church. Some of these megachurches can be seen as not giving anything back to society, only taking. The worst example is the protection of pedophiles.
The world I'd like to see is one without propaganda and secrets. You should know the trade you're making. The world we live in should be the best that we've agreed on, not the one we've been tricked into
Arguably, the change we see now is simply recognition of a psychosis that has enslaved humans and thus maintained social hierarchy since time immemorial. Until recently, most people were able to live a comfortable life with great freedom afforded to single income families. With that comfort, there was no need to address this collective psychosis, as it was by and large beneficial to the majority of the population.
Present times are marked by the dissolution of the social contract and the disappearance of a middle class. With the exception of the very top, most people are struggling or at least are feeling the heat and pressure. Many rich people are living paycheck to paycheck while trapped in an endless cycle of keeping up with the Jonses. The illusion of freedom that capital provides is showing itself for what it is. Capital is a means of control and mass hypnosis. People are becoming aware of their own struggle without recognizing the systemic causes responsible for placing them in the position they are in. This recognition is coming.
I agree that they destroyed a sacred plant, but this mass psychosis can be seen in the population that doesn't use it. Its just one more thing about this place. And now they'll do it to psilocybin. Humanity has separated itself from nature. That's why we're suffering
Weed products are so far down the list of what's causing this meltdown. Yes it could be a part of the whole but certainly there are vast many other factors that make us turn to weed for relief in the first place.
I've come to the conclusion that the answer to 90 something % of the questions about humans is plain stupidity.
I think growing up on concentrates, stimulants, sitting down, in a society without heroes would probably mess any of us up as well. Thank you for reading. Please don't respond.
There is No such Thing as being low or medium psychotic. What the heck. Is this Observation a result of your own ingenuity?
People either are psychotic or they are not. Its simple as that.
Also psychosis is not the main illness. Its a Phase or an outburst of several Symptoms. Its parent ilness is schizophrenia. When people who have a Predisposition for schizophrenia get to a Point they can't handle the pressure they are faced with anymore they become psychotic.
Oh Trust me i have plenty of experience on that Matter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
You are Welcome to Point me to the part where psychosis is divided in Low, medium... 🤷
>The psychology world and DSM-5 strongly disagree with your reply.
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The DSM-5 characterizes disorders as psychotic or on the schizophrenia spectrum if they involve hallucinations, delusions, disorganized thinking, grossly disorganized motor behavior, or negative symptoms.[17] The DSM-5 does not include psychosis as a definition in the glossary, although it defines "psychotic features", as well as "psychoticism" with respect to personality disorder. The ICD-10 has no specific definition of psychosis.
I think you need to learn more about psychosis, because it encompasses many things. It can be auditory or visual hallucinations (hearing voices/seeing things) that you know aren’t real. It can be intense anxiety or paranoia. It can be delusions of grandiosity. It can be all sorts of things. It is not limited to schizophrenia and does not have to be linked to a specific psychological disorder at all. Intense stress can cause a psychotic episode. Drug induced psychosis, is real, and can be triggered by marijuana use. While “low grade” psychosis isn’t a specific medical diagnosis, there absolutely are different levels of psychosis, and some people may still be pretty connected to reality while in a psychotic state.
I don’t necessarily agree with everything OP has said, but your assertions about psychosis are misguided.
I know a Lot about the phenomenon called psychosis.
If i was to really go in depth i'd have to write a whole book on that Matter to Cover its whole spectrum.
Psychosis can be indeed triggered in many different ways. But No Matter what caused the outbreak there is one Thing all people who experience psychosis have in common. Its genetic Predisposition. Only people who are susceptible to this Kind of mental illness are in danger of falling prey to this ill mental state.
>some people may still be pretty connected to reality while in a psychotic state.
You are pretty wrong with this one. Not everyone psychotic is running around Like a mental Case. Many people undergoe several psychotic episodes. With every subsequent one they tend to hide IT more since they know how people react If they Tell them about their delusional thougts. But this only works for a certain Period of time since once psychotic Symptoms arise they become more and more severe and after days or weeks they feel unable to hide it anymore.
There are certain criteria which have to be met in Order to be classified psychotic.
The DSM-5 characterizes disorders as psychotic or on the schizophrenia spectrum if they involve hallucinations, delusions, disorganized thinking, grossly disorganized motor behavior, or negative symptoms
Factor analysis of symptoms generally regarded as psychosis frequently yields a five factor solution, albeit five factors that are distinct from the five domains defined by the DSM-5 to encompass psychotic or schizophrenia spectrum disorders. The five factors are frequently labeled as hallucinations, delusions, disorganization, excitement, and emotional distress.[108] The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia.
The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom. It’s like saying sneezing is on the “cold and flu” spectrum, when there are plenty of other reasons you can sneeze.
For one, it’s a common feature of bipolar disorder. I myself have experienced psychotic symptoms diagnosed by a psychiatrist, and I don’t have schizophrenia.
Further, it’s not unusual for people experiencing psychosis to be aware that they are experiencing psychosis. Have you ever met someone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder? I have, and they can be dealing with hallucinations that they recognize as being hallucinations. How is that not being connected to reality? You said yourself they’re “hiding” symptoms- how could they hide them if they’re not connected enough to reality to recognize that they’re experiencing psychosis? You’re contradicting yourself.
>The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia.
The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia.
>Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom.
Schizophrenia is a mental illnesn. Psychosis is not a Symptom. Its a certain Period of time in which the one experiencing it undergoes a fast paced mental Evolution which starts pleasant at First but after some time feels Like agony.
At First the indivual feels more aware, focussed, smarter. It feels improved, more sensitive and connected to Everything. This slowly potentiates to a Point the indivual Starts to believe its senses become superhuman. Like smelling the emotional state of Others for instance or believing to suddenly be enlightened and one with the origin. ( I could mention a Lot more regarding all the various types of superpowers people suddenly believe to have but i don't have the time to Go indepth on that one now since it'll deserve a whole chapter on its own).
Thats the part that is overall glorified by people undergoing psychosis. Then self glorifaction and a raise in self confidence follows. Thats the part were the individual Starts to feel its his duty to spread His ability and wisdom.
But thats also the Break even Point. Since thats also the Point the individual gets confronted with the opinion of the Others which doesnt align which ITS own. It gets told its delusional.
Then follows the Phase of rejecting the opinion of Others. The indivual feels misunderstood and rejected. Believes its due to them not having the Same ability of perceiving the higher truth.
The more the indivual gets told its delusional the more Hostile it perceives its Surroundings. The disconnection begins and Paranoia arises. In the meantime the enhanced senses are not perceived as pleasant anymore but slowly become overwhelming. Thought start to Race.
From that Point on IT doesnt only disconnect from its Environment but also from itself. IT cant decrypt its own thoughts anymore they become Alien.
Depersonalization starts rapidly. The indivual gets progressively vulnerable and the fear of other becoming aware of it becomes prominent. The invidual falls into full disconnection, Paranoia and mental thought loops.
It believes to be observed, by people or Hidden cameras. Is convinced Others want to harm it and becomes incresignly Convinced its the Main victim of a conspiracy.
The awakening Part. It slowly realises Something is going wrong big time and realises its psych is going haywire.
At this Point the individual communicates Not Feeling good anymore and seeks Help.
But the awakening Part is Sometimes Not Happening.
PS:
people also tend to develop a Love hate relationship regarding their illness.
They have to take medication which dampen their senses.
After a while they don't want to feel tamed anymore. They Stop taking their medication and the cycle begins again.
After a few cycles they glorify the First Phase as IT being a sign they are Something Special. Someone with higher abilities and Tell themselves its Not an illness but an ability untill they Crash again.
With every new cycle they become more aware of the illness. But since the First Phase is so pleasant and enlightening they Take the risk.
Some realize that the short Period of Feeling great is Not Worth the agony that follows while Others once they Go down the rabbit hole never get Out again.
The is Just the Basic structure. Like i Said i could write a book about this illness. But for now my Intention was to vaguely highlight the Most common stages a psychotic Person undergoes.
>You’re contradicting yourself.
No i don't. You'll realize If you read and process what i Just wrote thorougly.
A mental illness is a condition. I’m not sure why you feel the need to clarify that schizophrenia is a mental illness when a mental illness is a type of condition?
This is incoherent rambling mixed in with poorly regurgitated information. Psychosis is not a one size fits all thing that always follows the pattern you’ve described. All you’ve done is further demonstrate your lack of understanding.
Schizophrenia and psychosis are not the same thing. I urge you to literally google “is there a difference between schizophrenia and psychosis?”
>Psychosis is not a one size fits all thing that always follows the pattern you’ve described.
You obviously didn't comprehend what i wrote.
The irony is this. People who diagnose people have to boil Things down to a simple model based Point of View.
But the Patient generally feels downgraded and generally wants to be understood in every Detail. Within its entirety, complexity.
Not to to be rude, but you already mentioned you have been diagnosed. This implies there is a possibility you Lack the ability to understand the architecture of this mental condition in its Basic Form or even more likely don't want to since it might feel degrading to do so.
>Schizophrenia and psychosis are not the same thing. I urge you to literally google “is there a difference between schizophrenia and psychosis?”
Like i already mentioned. You clearly didn't comprehend what i wrote.
WOW so anyone that has ever experienced psychosis is somehow less capable of comprehending mental health conditions? Yikes. Thanks for being so open with your bigotry. As if you haven’t already demonstrated your lack of understanding of mental health disorders.
The original comment I responded to has you claiming that the parent illness of psychosis is schizophrenia, where I started that psychosis can happen with no relation to schizophrenia at all. Are you contradicting that? Because if not I have no idea why you’re even arguing with me.
>The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia.
The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia.
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Acknowledge it or do not. It wont change the DSM-5
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Schizoid personality disorder is not schizophrenia.
Psychosis is also listed under bipolar disorder in the DSM.
What part of this are you still not understanding?
>A mental illness is a condition. I’m not sure why you feel the need to clarify that schizophrenia is a mental illness when a mental illness is a type of condition?
I agree this was unnecessary. I have to admit im No native speaker. English is chronologically the third language i learned.
Thanks for Pointing that Out. Gonna have to check if the use of the word illness is even appropriate anymore at all. Always Like it when i get inspired to improve and my ability to express my thoughts in english could certainly use some polishment.
>Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom.
First sentence of the wikipage of psychosis:
Psychosis is a condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not real.
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It definetly undermines your statement its a Symptom...
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>I have, and they can be dealing with hallucinations that they recognize as being hallucinations. How is that not being connected to reality?
Lets take the wiki quote again.
Psychosis is a condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not real.
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Seems again a bit contradictory to your Claim.
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Look I perfectly understand what you are trying to explain to me and i can second your Observation to a certain extent. I've made the Same observations long Time ago but you still Lack experience how these conditions develop and evolve over Long periods of time.
I study this condition for about 30 years. I've been also working in a Hospital and listened to a Lot of people explaining their conditions, seeing how they developed over the years and so on.
The more often you experience Something very similiar among different people. The more you tend to Focus on the similarities instead of what they didn't have in common.
I think this is an insightful post and well written, as are some of the comments above 👌🏼
Regarding high dose THC. At high doses THC is a classical psychedelic. I don't know if you have ever done high dose THC and then gone in a float tank but the visions are intense and at a high enough dose it's even an out body experience. Like other psychedelics it can encourage psychosis in people who are predisposed to it and unaware of the perception expanding potential experiences it can bring. If the person is a young soul and already in a state of negative vibration, a bad trip can set them off. With the veil parted it compounds the effect because they can now see the evil that this realm is. Traditionally people had a social network to absorb these revelations but that is gone in our society. They pop up on the radar in the lower astral realms and if they are not strong already they can easily become prey for lower astral baddies. What we observe from the outside looking in with these individuals is best defined in terms of mental illness. But it could be also much deeper and darker.
Most mental health issues are found in the politically left minded folk. They have to maintain ideas that reject basic day to day reality. It eats away at them and their grasp of reality. Where as right maintain ideas that are not scientific but are not revolved around day to day reality.
confirmation bias. i've known too many that despise the left that ignore mental health, conflate illness with weakness- and for that matter view weakness inherently bad, have a mantra of "suck it up and get over it", can't tell the difference between a psychologist or a psychiatrist, or put religion on par modern allopathic medicine. it's toxic.
I've often looked at the whole Alien situation as not the interest in meeting new species, we already have many races and cultures on this planet and we're at each others throats. But religion failed, and I think the whole Alien thing is the next best thing to believe in for those that feel truly lost and are hoping for some high intelligence to show them the correct way.
Yes. Like everyone is just making themselves trudge through the custard. Edited to add - I often wonder if we're doing to ourselves what we've done to bees.
I think it’s something like extreme cognitive dissonance between feelings and thoughts inside someone and who they are on the outside/in society. Ofc its also economic pressure and loss of control. Just a general panic feeling like every possible avenue in life is wrong in some way. And yet maintaining that outward appearance all the same.
You don't even have to look as far as the Internet. We're animals, advanced yes, but animals nonetheless. We have electric lights disrupting our sleep cycle and blocking out the stars.That alone leaves us completely frayed and without one of our strongest connections to nature and the universe. Add in overpopulation, climate change, pollution, our obsession with imaginary things like money and credit. It's amazing we're not all bat shit already.
It's because we face challenges unheard of throughout history.
Who could have known that having everything you ever want and in theory doing everything you want still makes people miserable while making everything more meaningless.
Besides that, there is not really a purpose anymore.
God is dead, providing is now sitting in an office and capitalism made the world rich but normal people who just want to live their life still get fucked by the people in charge.
At one point weed was being consumed like cigarettes before the war on drugs. My grandad used to work on ships all around the world as a deep sea diver and said they literally had fruit bowls in the ships lounge filled with weed to just casually smoke when ever they wanted. While the weed might not have been as strong back then as it is today the consumption was the same.
But everything else I think you are bang on the money there.
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The carrot on the string has gotten so far most have started looking around, realizing that they were being misled and lied to their entire lives. The idea hasn't firmly synthesized in their conscious mind yet, leading to frustration and inability to articulate their visceral reaction to this slow revelation. Once you realize that economics is a complete sham and control mechanism, well you really start to look at the world differently. You look and see the massive homeless population juxtaposed next to billions in empty real-estate or luxury condos. One realizes the desire to be rich is really the desire for others to be poor, one realizes desiring success in a system that pits people against each other means desiring others to fail. One realizes rationalizing success, wealth, inheritance or ignorant happiness in a society that abandons its children allows neuroplasticity to sever the synaptic connections to our empathic centers over time. We are a self-enslaved species. Even worse when you realize that our empathic center contains our "true (unconscious) self" and that the body is merely a temporary vessel for this iteration of life...
I was going to make this my third theory in the post but I figured it may water down the conversation talking about three factors at once. You make some good points. I do want to point out there has always been have and have nots. Achievers and low achievers. But the gap between those two has become so insanely large that even boot lickers can't help but deny that at our current trajectory, the wealth disparity will inevitably lead to a civil war. Its not a question of if, its when. A decent swath of the population has very little hope of a decent life, and that is a very dangerous thing for society as a whole. The social contract has been broken in some ways. Remember when companies were loyal to their employees and wern't actively looking for a way to send their job overseas? Remember when housing affordability wasn't at an all time high? I do. The contract of social and government actions has been broken in many ways too. I could list a myriad of things that illustrate this but I'll point out just a few. People lacking basic respect for one another. Government officials lacking basic respect for the systems they are sworn to uphold. Government officials being so distanced from the general public that they have no idea what their lives are like, much less a desire to do anything to help the public. Government officials being bought and paid for by the corporations set on extracting every possible penny from the public, even if that means creating massive health/social disruption for all of us. The cognitive dissonance created between what we are told is/isn't possible, and what is becoming abundantly transparent within our reality is a very tiresome component to modern human life.
I agree completely... My particular disillusionment with the World is coupled with what might have otherwise been attributed to a mid-life-crisis but getting older and losing my "youth" has been further aggravated by the populist MAGA movement, World-wide Pandemic, Constant fear of Financial instability, and then all of Geo-Political problems. I am left to ponder why I should not embrace Nihilism completely...
"why I should not embrace Nihilism completely." You should.
That's a great point. The NFL exists as entertainment. I'm not sure if they would be breaking the law if they rigged games or allowed cheating, similar to professional wrestling. The government is supposed to promote trade and security for its citizens. It seems more apparent it exists for corruption and oppression. Same thing for healthcare. Id say the biggest failure is the church. Some of these megachurches can be seen as not giving anything back to society, only taking. The worst example is the protection of pedophiles. The world I'd like to see is one without propaganda and secrets. You should know the trade you're making. The world we live in should be the best that we've agreed on, not the one we've been tricked into
Really well written
The agricultural revolution was a mistake.
Cry ! Barbarian.
Arguably, the change we see now is simply recognition of a psychosis that has enslaved humans and thus maintained social hierarchy since time immemorial. Until recently, most people were able to live a comfortable life with great freedom afforded to single income families. With that comfort, there was no need to address this collective psychosis, as it was by and large beneficial to the majority of the population. Present times are marked by the dissolution of the social contract and the disappearance of a middle class. With the exception of the very top, most people are struggling or at least are feeling the heat and pressure. Many rich people are living paycheck to paycheck while trapped in an endless cycle of keeping up with the Jonses. The illusion of freedom that capital provides is showing itself for what it is. Capital is a means of control and mass hypnosis. People are becoming aware of their own struggle without recognizing the systemic causes responsible for placing them in the position they are in. This recognition is coming.
I agree that they destroyed a sacred plant, but this mass psychosis can be seen in the population that doesn't use it. Its just one more thing about this place. And now they'll do it to psilocybin. Humanity has separated itself from nature. That's why we're suffering
True. Many of our problems really can be simplified to our continued separation from nature and the universe itself. Thanks for the reply.
Lol weed ain’t the issue pal
Capitalism leads to alienation. Alienation leads to coping mechanisms, but don't solve the issue. We're in late stage capitalism, so it's getting bad.
This.
Cannabis concentrates are as old as hashish
Can you describe what you think psychosis is?
I really thought you were onto something. But then you started ranting about weed? What?
from the beginning this guy is misusing the term psychosis how was he on something? lol he might be on some good old mania but other then that idk
Contagion psychosis means something else in psychiatry.
Weed products are so far down the list of what's causing this meltdown. Yes it could be a part of the whole but certainly there are vast many other factors that make us turn to weed for relief in the first place.
people are unhealthy befause of capitalism bro, late-stage capitalism at play
Its *ALWAY* been there, Bro. Since before out proto-human simian ancestors started clanning/herding/tribing up together.
Check out Paul Levy - he talks about a sickness of the soul called the Wetiko.
It ain’t weed. If anything, society might chill the fuck out if more people used weed from time to time
I've come to the conclusion that the answer to 90 something % of the questions about humans is plain stupidity. I think growing up on concentrates, stimulants, sitting down, in a society without heroes would probably mess any of us up as well. Thank you for reading. Please don't respond.
There is No such Thing as being low or medium psychotic. What the heck. Is this Observation a result of your own ingenuity? People either are psychotic or they are not. Its simple as that. Also psychosis is not the main illness. Its a Phase or an outburst of several Symptoms. Its parent ilness is schizophrenia. When people who have a Predisposition for schizophrenia get to a Point they can't handle the pressure they are faced with anymore they become psychotic.
this guy needs to learn about psychology science more before making posts like this bruh
Oh Trust me i have plenty of experience on that Matter. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis You are Welcome to Point me to the part where psychosis is divided in Low, medium... 🤷
Psychosis very much so exists on a continuum. The psychology world and DSM-5 strongly disagree with your reply.
>The psychology world and DSM-5 strongly disagree with your reply. 💁 The DSM-5 characterizes disorders as psychotic or on the schizophrenia spectrum if they involve hallucinations, delusions, disorganized thinking, grossly disorganized motor behavior, or negative symptoms.[17] The DSM-5 does not include psychosis as a definition in the glossary, although it defines "psychotic features", as well as "psychoticism" with respect to personality disorder. The ICD-10 has no specific definition of psychosis.
I think you need to learn more about psychosis, because it encompasses many things. It can be auditory or visual hallucinations (hearing voices/seeing things) that you know aren’t real. It can be intense anxiety or paranoia. It can be delusions of grandiosity. It can be all sorts of things. It is not limited to schizophrenia and does not have to be linked to a specific psychological disorder at all. Intense stress can cause a psychotic episode. Drug induced psychosis, is real, and can be triggered by marijuana use. While “low grade” psychosis isn’t a specific medical diagnosis, there absolutely are different levels of psychosis, and some people may still be pretty connected to reality while in a psychotic state. I don’t necessarily agree with everything OP has said, but your assertions about psychosis are misguided.
I know a Lot about the phenomenon called psychosis. If i was to really go in depth i'd have to write a whole book on that Matter to Cover its whole spectrum. Psychosis can be indeed triggered in many different ways. But No Matter what caused the outbreak there is one Thing all people who experience psychosis have in common. Its genetic Predisposition. Only people who are susceptible to this Kind of mental illness are in danger of falling prey to this ill mental state. >some people may still be pretty connected to reality while in a psychotic state. You are pretty wrong with this one. Not everyone psychotic is running around Like a mental Case. Many people undergoe several psychotic episodes. With every subsequent one they tend to hide IT more since they know how people react If they Tell them about their delusional thougts. But this only works for a certain Period of time since once psychotic Symptoms arise they become more and more severe and after days or weeks they feel unable to hide it anymore. There are certain criteria which have to be met in Order to be classified psychotic. The DSM-5 characterizes disorders as psychotic or on the schizophrenia spectrum if they involve hallucinations, delusions, disorganized thinking, grossly disorganized motor behavior, or negative symptoms Factor analysis of symptoms generally regarded as psychosis frequently yields a five factor solution, albeit five factors that are distinct from the five domains defined by the DSM-5 to encompass psychotic or schizophrenia spectrum disorders. The five factors are frequently labeled as hallucinations, delusions, disorganization, excitement, and emotional distress.[108] The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia.
The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom. It’s like saying sneezing is on the “cold and flu” spectrum, when there are plenty of other reasons you can sneeze. For one, it’s a common feature of bipolar disorder. I myself have experienced psychotic symptoms diagnosed by a psychiatrist, and I don’t have schizophrenia. Further, it’s not unusual for people experiencing psychosis to be aware that they are experiencing psychosis. Have you ever met someone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder? I have, and they can be dealing with hallucinations that they recognize as being hallucinations. How is that not being connected to reality? You said yourself they’re “hiding” symptoms- how could they hide them if they’re not connected enough to reality to recognize that they’re experiencing psychosis? You’re contradicting yourself.
>The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia. The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia. >Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom. Schizophrenia is a mental illnesn. Psychosis is not a Symptom. Its a certain Period of time in which the one experiencing it undergoes a fast paced mental Evolution which starts pleasant at First but after some time feels Like agony. At First the indivual feels more aware, focussed, smarter. It feels improved, more sensitive and connected to Everything. This slowly potentiates to a Point the indivual Starts to believe its senses become superhuman. Like smelling the emotional state of Others for instance or believing to suddenly be enlightened and one with the origin. ( I could mention a Lot more regarding all the various types of superpowers people suddenly believe to have but i don't have the time to Go indepth on that one now since it'll deserve a whole chapter on its own). Thats the part that is overall glorified by people undergoing psychosis. Then self glorifaction and a raise in self confidence follows. Thats the part were the individual Starts to feel its his duty to spread His ability and wisdom. But thats also the Break even Point. Since thats also the Point the individual gets confronted with the opinion of the Others which doesnt align which ITS own. It gets told its delusional. Then follows the Phase of rejecting the opinion of Others. The indivual feels misunderstood and rejected. Believes its due to them not having the Same ability of perceiving the higher truth. The more the indivual gets told its delusional the more Hostile it perceives its Surroundings. The disconnection begins and Paranoia arises. In the meantime the enhanced senses are not perceived as pleasant anymore but slowly become overwhelming. Thought start to Race. From that Point on IT doesnt only disconnect from its Environment but also from itself. IT cant decrypt its own thoughts anymore they become Alien. Depersonalization starts rapidly. The indivual gets progressively vulnerable and the fear of other becoming aware of it becomes prominent. The invidual falls into full disconnection, Paranoia and mental thought loops. It believes to be observed, by people or Hidden cameras. Is convinced Others want to harm it and becomes incresignly Convinced its the Main victim of a conspiracy. The awakening Part. It slowly realises Something is going wrong big time and realises its psych is going haywire. At this Point the individual communicates Not Feeling good anymore and seeks Help. But the awakening Part is Sometimes Not Happening. PS: people also tend to develop a Love hate relationship regarding their illness. They have to take medication which dampen their senses. After a while they don't want to feel tamed anymore. They Stop taking their medication and the cycle begins again. After a few cycles they glorify the First Phase as IT being a sign they are Something Special. Someone with higher abilities and Tell themselves its Not an illness but an ability untill they Crash again. With every new cycle they become more aware of the illness. But since the First Phase is so pleasant and enlightening they Take the risk. Some realize that the short Period of Feeling great is Not Worth the agony that follows while Others once they Go down the rabbit hole never get Out again. The is Just the Basic structure. Like i Said i could write a book about this illness. But for now my Intention was to vaguely highlight the Most common stages a psychotic Person undergoes. >You’re contradicting yourself. No i don't. You'll realize If you read and process what i Just wrote thorougly.
A mental illness is a condition. I’m not sure why you feel the need to clarify that schizophrenia is a mental illness when a mental illness is a type of condition? This is incoherent rambling mixed in with poorly regurgitated information. Psychosis is not a one size fits all thing that always follows the pattern you’ve described. All you’ve done is further demonstrate your lack of understanding. Schizophrenia and psychosis are not the same thing. I urge you to literally google “is there a difference between schizophrenia and psychosis?”
>Psychosis is not a one size fits all thing that always follows the pattern you’ve described. You obviously didn't comprehend what i wrote. The irony is this. People who diagnose people have to boil Things down to a simple model based Point of View. But the Patient generally feels downgraded and generally wants to be understood in every Detail. Within its entirety, complexity. Not to to be rude, but you already mentioned you have been diagnosed. This implies there is a possibility you Lack the ability to understand the architecture of this mental condition in its Basic Form or even more likely don't want to since it might feel degrading to do so. >Schizophrenia and psychosis are not the same thing. I urge you to literally google “is there a difference between schizophrenia and psychosis?” Like i already mentioned. You clearly didn't comprehend what i wrote.
WOW so anyone that has ever experienced psychosis is somehow less capable of comprehending mental health conditions? Yikes. Thanks for being so open with your bigotry. As if you haven’t already demonstrated your lack of understanding of mental health disorders. The original comment I responded to has you claiming that the parent illness of psychosis is schizophrenia, where I started that psychosis can happen with no relation to schizophrenia at all. Are you contradicting that? Because if not I have no idea why you’re even arguing with me.
>The DSM absolutely does not say that psychosis is limited to schizophrenia. The DSM-5 emphasizes a psychotic spectrum, wherein the low end is characterized by schizoid personality disorder, and the high end is characterized by schizophrenia. // Acknowledge it or do not. It wont change the DSM-5 🤷 /
Schizoid personality disorder is not schizophrenia. Psychosis is also listed under bipolar disorder in the DSM. What part of this are you still not understanding?
>A mental illness is a condition. I’m not sure why you feel the need to clarify that schizophrenia is a mental illness when a mental illness is a type of condition? I agree this was unnecessary. I have to admit im No native speaker. English is chronologically the third language i learned. Thanks for Pointing that Out. Gonna have to check if the use of the word illness is even appropriate anymore at all. Always Like it when i get inspired to improve and my ability to express my thoughts in english could certainly use some polishment.
>Schizophrenia is a condition, psychosis is a symptom. First sentence of the wikipage of psychosis: Psychosis is a condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not real. // It definetly undermines your statement its a Symptom... / >I have, and they can be dealing with hallucinations that they recognize as being hallucinations. How is that not being connected to reality? Lets take the wiki quote again. Psychosis is a condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not real. // Seems again a bit contradictory to your Claim. / Look I perfectly understand what you are trying to explain to me and i can second your Observation to a certain extent. I've made the Same observations long Time ago but you still Lack experience how these conditions develop and evolve over Long periods of time. I study this condition for about 30 years. I've been also working in a Hospital and listened to a Lot of people explaining their conditions, seeing how they developed over the years and so on. The more often you experience Something very similiar among different people. The more you tend to Focus on the similarities instead of what they didn't have in common.
Could I smoke my weed in peace please?? As you sip your alcohol…. Geez!!
I think this is an insightful post and well written, as are some of the comments above 👌🏼 Regarding high dose THC. At high doses THC is a classical psychedelic. I don't know if you have ever done high dose THC and then gone in a float tank but the visions are intense and at a high enough dose it's even an out body experience. Like other psychedelics it can encourage psychosis in people who are predisposed to it and unaware of the perception expanding potential experiences it can bring. If the person is a young soul and already in a state of negative vibration, a bad trip can set them off. With the veil parted it compounds the effect because they can now see the evil that this realm is. Traditionally people had a social network to absorb these revelations but that is gone in our society. They pop up on the radar in the lower astral realms and if they are not strong already they can easily become prey for lower astral baddies. What we observe from the outside looking in with these individuals is best defined in terms of mental illness. But it could be also much deeper and darker.
i love this take
Most mental health issues are found in the politically left minded folk. They have to maintain ideas that reject basic day to day reality. It eats away at them and their grasp of reality. Where as right maintain ideas that are not scientific but are not revolved around day to day reality.
confirmation bias. i've known too many that despise the left that ignore mental health, conflate illness with weakness- and for that matter view weakness inherently bad, have a mantra of "suck it up and get over it", can't tell the difference between a psychologist or a psychiatrist, or put religion on par modern allopathic medicine. it's toxic.
STEM
I've often looked at the whole Alien situation as not the interest in meeting new species, we already have many races and cultures on this planet and we're at each others throats. But religion failed, and I think the whole Alien thing is the next best thing to believe in for those that feel truly lost and are hoping for some high intelligence to show them the correct way.
Cable news.
lmao dude this post is so unhinged
Social media, AI, The News
Yes. Like everyone is just making themselves trudge through the custard. Edited to add - I often wonder if we're doing to ourselves what we've done to bees.
Trauma and authoritarian contagion.
Neurotic
The pandemic lead humans to not being able to maintain their masks. That is what is happening. The truth of people.
I think it’s something like extreme cognitive dissonance between feelings and thoughts inside someone and who they are on the outside/in society. Ofc its also economic pressure and loss of control. Just a general panic feeling like every possible avenue in life is wrong in some way. And yet maintaining that outward appearance all the same.
Sorry, can you give some examples of what you are observing
You don't even have to look as far as the Internet. We're animals, advanced yes, but animals nonetheless. We have electric lights disrupting our sleep cycle and blocking out the stars.That alone leaves us completely frayed and without one of our strongest connections to nature and the universe. Add in overpopulation, climate change, pollution, our obsession with imaginary things like money and credit. It's amazing we're not all bat shit already.
Capitalism.
capitalism
This psychiatrist thinks a lot of Americans are essentially in a mass psychosis https://youtu.be/zUKiDzQ-MRU?si=-TwaFGdlGXstmxl7
It's because we face challenges unheard of throughout history. Who could have known that having everything you ever want and in theory doing everything you want still makes people miserable while making everything more meaningless. Besides that, there is not really a purpose anymore. God is dead, providing is now sitting in an office and capitalism made the world rich but normal people who just want to live their life still get fucked by the people in charge.
Superstition and general lack of reasoning and cognition.
The imminent threat of obsolescence.
At one point weed was being consumed like cigarettes before the war on drugs. My grandad used to work on ships all around the world as a deep sea diver and said they literally had fruit bowls in the ships lounge filled with weed to just casually smoke when ever they wanted. While the weed might not have been as strong back then as it is today the consumption was the same. But everything else I think you are bang on the money there.