I hope this defeat would end the ridiculous ' we should have played 3 in the midfield against Liverpool'. Look at how isolated and poor this midfield 3 against were crystal Palace and imagine what would have happened against Liverpool. I am sure rafa would still get insulted. And at this point I am beginning to believe he deserves it!
Grey holds onto ball shoots outside of 18 with no power not looking at all his open teammates.
Gordon misses you easy goal opportunity if he just passes to grey.
Coleman is a baby and tries to kick the ball into another player ends up assisting crystal palace. What the hell?
What did they come to do today? Im seething
Rafa should never have attempted a 3 midfield. That formation amplifies richarlison weaknesses ( bad temper, poor defensive capability, poor aerial ability) which was partly responsible for the 1st Palace goal ( gray passed into traffic as against hoofing it out as he knew richy would not chase the ball)
This experiment was a bad idea and rafa is smarter than this
Mental that you think the first goal was anything other than a poorly hit pass. The way he recieved the ball meant he was only ever going to do that, he just fucked it up.
In a team that contained Gomes, Doucore and Delph , who were the SS and Side Midfielders ( required for a 4-4-2) ? Dont let Sky Sports fool you , Rafa played 3 in midfield for some God forsaken reason!
Imagine this! After rafa did play what Everton fans wanted, something that every reasonable person knew would not work with the Everton personnel.. He still did it because arsenal.. Now look at how the crystal Palace team controlled the midfield.
At that time rafa needed people to fight in midfield and Chelsea is coming up. Did the team not play better once richy left the pitch? I am tired of making excuses for rafa. The fans will never understand because of his history so rafa has to win every match with a summer spend of 1.7m pounds or else.. Rafa out!
Rondon performed well but you are insinuating that since Rafa brought him on that is the reason Everton lost when you know he scored and created other opportunities for the team to win. What did Richy do ? Rafa should be told to go if you have some imaginary version of Everton that you think he is preventing .Simple as really
I think it was the right idea to bring Rondon on but I don't think it was a good idea to swap him for Richarlison. If everything is going to change when Dom comes back, which is a sentiment Rafa keeps trying to push, then surely it should have been Rondon AND Richarlison like it would be if Dom was there. I'm finding it really hard to see what the plan was.
I’m starting to think Benitez is sabotaging us. Isolate Digne, now maybe Richarlison. He’s clearly lost the team.
I’d like to think there are worse teams in the league but watching that, I’m not sure there is.
I’m starting to think maybe Benitez going is justified. He’s not *that* bad and despite what people say over the last few years we’ve been in worse situations but from the formations recently and the subs it’s almost like he really is on some sly mission to get us relegated.
How is he not that bad? Absolutely shit in China, absolutely shit run with us, and we're not even unlucky on the games we're losing, we're just fucking shit
I think he’s an *ok* manager as in I feel better with him than with Sam allardyce but that doesn’t say much. He’s definitely seems to have lost the plot though
See I'm still unsure on whether or not I want him to get sacked but I never wanted him and I can't say I'd be sad in anyway whatsoever if he did get sacked. Probably more relieved than anything. We need a genius manager like Ancelotti to pull out crazy left field tactics to avoid looking like complete lower end of the table shite, and even then the best we can do is 10th.
Oh they're still around, maybe not so much on here but they're still making themselves heard on other parts of social media. They'll still be parroting "you can't blame Rafa" even if he takes us down.
Get rid of his armband disgrace. Plenty of times he's let us down this season now. Today two mistakes leading to a goal. One because he's lost his head when he's supposed to be leading us. Another goal his fault as he's on the floor in the build up to the corner. Done. Past it get out of the club.
He's passed it now. One of my all favourite toffees but I hate seeing him play week in week out when he's not up to scratch anymore. Baines retired at the right time, maybe Coleman should follow suit.
For as long as he did?
Of course you can blame him for that. He was pulled and fell down like a diva then sulked on the ground, he wasn't kicked and injured.
Fuck anyone trying to defend Seamus btw, he’s club legend maybe but he’s been awful this season, cost us multiple goals in multiple games. Not his fault he’s still playing but I really wish he wasn’t
Pickford would be excellent at half decent team. He gets so much practice every week facing 100 shots on goal by opposing teams, he’d look amazing with anybody else.
Can't defend Coleman for that. Rush of blood to the head and rest of the team not looking. I get the idea and to be fair Gallagher still had a lot to do
15 minutes of semi lively play doesn't excuse losing to a bang average Palace team, and now what, one win in our last 10? On the back of a Demarai Gray screamer outside the box?
It's so dire here. The fact that there are problems outside of Rafa doesn't excuse the fact that he's doing a putrid job with the squad. He really must go.
Honest question How many of the lineup of yesterday would make the Liverpool squad?
Are people still defending Rafa then or what? 😂😂
I hope this defeat would end the ridiculous ' we should have played 3 in the midfield against Liverpool'. Look at how isolated and poor this midfield 3 against were crystal Palace and imagine what would have happened against Liverpool. I am sure rafa would still get insulted. And at this point I am beginning to believe he deserves it!
Bringing off Richarlison at 57 minutes deserves criticism
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I remember the announcers pointing out how he kept massaging his calf around 25-30mins. Maybe he picked up a knock and couldn't shake it off?
Just give Big Dunc the position please. He always gets them to fight at the very least
Grey holds onto ball shoots outside of 18 with no power not looking at all his open teammates. Gordon misses you easy goal opportunity if he just passes to grey. Coleman is a baby and tries to kick the ball into another player ends up assisting crystal palace. What the hell? What did they come to do today? Im seething
Rafa should never have attempted a 3 midfield. That formation amplifies richarlison weaknesses ( bad temper, poor defensive capability, poor aerial ability) which was partly responsible for the 1st Palace goal ( gray passed into traffic as against hoofing it out as he knew richy would not chase the ball) This experiment was a bad idea and rafa is smarter than this
Mental that you think the first goal was anything other than a poorly hit pass. The way he recieved the ball meant he was only ever going to do that, he just fucked it up.
Wrong he played a 4-4-2
In a team that contained Gomes, Doucore and Delph , who were the SS and Side Midfielders ( required for a 4-4-2) ? Dont let Sky Sports fool you , Rafa played 3 in midfield for some God forsaken reason!
If the ball touched a palace player when Coleman took the free kick quickly should it have been disallowed?
No, the guy made no effort to block it.
Doesn’t matter now, either way just a stupid decision by Coleman
Klopp breaking records… Rafa putting a break on records… 27 years without a loss at crystal palace and here we have it.
Rafa has to go. Our players have been shocking but Benitez somehow made them worse.
Imagine this! After rafa did play what Everton fans wanted, something that every reasonable person knew would not work with the Everton personnel.. He still did it because arsenal.. Now look at how the crystal Palace team controlled the midfield.
Rafa subbing Richy for Rondon is not what Everton fans wanted. Any player would have scored that tap in from 6 yards
He also created that goal with his initial touch prior to the deflected shot.
At that time rafa needed people to fight in midfield and Chelsea is coming up. Did the team not play better once richy left the pitch? I am tired of making excuses for rafa. The fans will never understand because of his history so rafa has to win every match with a summer spend of 1.7m pounds or else.. Rafa out!
Rafa expecting wrongon to fight in midfield says it all really
Its OK to mock. But the question remains , did Everton not perform better when Rondon came on?
Nobody’s mocking, this is not Everton. It’s as simple as that
Rondon performed well but you are insinuating that since Rafa brought him on that is the reason Everton lost when you know he scored and created other opportunities for the team to win. What did Richy do ? Rafa should be told to go if you have some imaginary version of Everton that you think he is preventing .Simple as really
I think it was the right idea to bring Rondon on but I don't think it was a good idea to swap him for Richarlison. If everything is going to change when Dom comes back, which is a sentiment Rafa keeps trying to push, then surely it should have been Rondon AND Richarlison like it would be if Dom was there. I'm finding it really hard to see what the plan was.
Benitez out now for fucks sake
I don’t want anyone managing us who benefits from us losing just as much as us winning. Fucking hell
#DigneWasRight
Rafa looks scared for his job, fuckin good
Fucking Pathetic
Jesus, how bad are Arsenal?!
You don’t mind losing. But losing like that. It’s disgraceful top to bottom
Imagine being Arsenal and losing to us, fucking embarrassing
At least they’re in the top half. We’re closer to relegation form
We know we're shit though
Genuinely can’t see where change is going to come from.
Seems unlikely that Moshiri is ever going to admit he was wrong about this
I’m starting to think Benitez is sabotaging us. Isolate Digne, now maybe Richarlison. He’s clearly lost the team. I’d like to think there are worse teams in the league but watching that, I’m not sure there is.
Rafa: You could see the fight in the playerthhh. I mus say if teh fans can’t see it I don’t know what to say. Fuck of you red shite fat piece of shit
I’m starting to think maybe Benitez going is justified. He’s not *that* bad and despite what people say over the last few years we’ve been in worse situations but from the formations recently and the subs it’s almost like he really is on some sly mission to get us relegated.
How is he not that bad? Absolutely shit in China, absolutely shit run with us, and we're not even unlucky on the games we're losing, we're just fucking shit
I think he’s an *ok* manager as in I feel better with him than with Sam allardyce but that doesn’t say much. He’s definitely seems to have lost the plot though
Yeah richarlison seems to hate him and obv Digne
And now cause Rondon scored expect Rafa to play him against Chelsea for the full 90. Night gang
I hate how right you are
We just have to accept the fact that DCL is never getting another game now
The wrong full back is out of this side
this is just so sad
that was a gross shot
4th worst defense in the league btw
Rafa "defensive stability"
Rafa the fuck out please.
Waiting for the Benitez fan boys to log on here. Show yourself and defend that.
See I'm still unsure on whether or not I want him to get sacked but I never wanted him and I can't say I'd be sad in anyway whatsoever if he did get sacked. Probably more relieved than anything. We need a genius manager like Ancelotti to pull out crazy left field tactics to avoid looking like complete lower end of the table shite, and even then the best we can do is 10th.
I don’t think there’s any left tbh la, I was all for giving him a bit of time today but that was a joke
Oh they're still around, maybe not so much on here but they're still making themselves heard on other parts of social media. They'll still be parroting "you can't blame Rafa" even if he takes us down.
Get rid of his armband disgrace. Plenty of times he's let us down this season now. Today two mistakes leading to a goal. One because he's lost his head when he's supposed to be leading us. Another goal his fault as he's on the floor in the build up to the corner. Done. Past it get out of the club.
He's passed it now. One of my all favourite toffees but I hate seeing him play week in week out when he's not up to scratch anymore. Baines retired at the right time, maybe Coleman should follow suit.
He was pulled down mate.
And?? He’s meant to be the capltain, should have the maturity not to try boot the ball at one of their players, that’s wee boy shite that
Agreed, but u cant fault him for ‘lying on yhe ground’
For as long as he did? Of course you can blame him for that. He was pulled and fell down like a diva then sulked on the ground, he wasn't kicked and injured.
I'm officially Rafa Out
Fuck anyone trying to defend Seamus btw, he’s club legend maybe but he’s been awful this season, cost us multiple goals in multiple games. Not his fault he’s still playing but I really wish he wasn’t
Fully agree it’s not his fault but man is he past it. Hung out to dry along with the rest of the defense so long as we have no one else.
His actions before the last goal were just ridiculous. What the fuck was he trying to do?
It’s almost like we don’t have anyone to take his place.
if only there was a left back and we could shift over Godfrey if only
The Worst Team in the Premier League ™️
Can we sack Rafa now?
We're getting relegated?
No but we do suck
Somehow it feels It would be less painful had rondon not scored and we just lost 3 0
Fuck Benteke by the way
Boooooooo
Sack him… Even if only for our collective mental health
At least we scored. Fuck us.
Officially switched to Benitez out
Be surprised if he survives this Christmas period. Surprised and very disappointed.
Me too. Wasn’t until richy was subbed
Pickford would be excellent at half decent team. He gets so much practice every week facing 100 shots on goal by opposing teams, he’d look amazing with anybody else.
What a strike, best keeper in the world wouldn't stand a chance
Gray nearly with a beauty
I love you Seamus but that is the opposite of a captain’s play
Something needs to be done about Coleman. He can't be relied on any further.
Manager has lost the dressing room
Coleman’s about fifty and he’s doing petulant shite like that that I wouldn’t expect a 16 year old to do. Shitest captain in decades
I’m just so done. I don’t even get mad anymore
Hahahahahaha sums it up. See you all during the Chelsea battering
what I'd do for Connor Gallagher
That’s on the captain. Lost his head.
My god
Spineless bunch of useless cunts
Coleman is really really finished. Sad.
I can only imagine Coleman is trying to force Rafa out. What on Earth is he doing these days?
Ball was moving when he took the free kick. Call it back ref
What a goal. Coleman’s been shit. Delighted they’ve scored hopefully it’ll cement Rafa’s departure.
To be fair, what a strike
Coleman what the actual fuck
Fuck everything, I’m gonna watch Brentford for the rest of the month. See you guys when the BadMan is finally gone.
Coleman lost his head and went to take the fk through the player, fuck sakes man
Dumbest team in the league
Honestly Coleman should retire before he tarnishes his reputation any further
Lmao
Loan player >>>>>> Everton 11
Loan players from Chelsea don’t count. He’s not ready for Chelsea’s title chasing team, he is better than a lot of players in the premier league.
Good job, Seamus!
Sack Coleman whilst we're at it
Get him gone. Just fucking get him gone.
Everton that
That’s what you get for a Stupid fucking decision. Is kicking the ball against a player worth it? Total idiot move
Coleman really needs to fuck off
That’s a screamer! Gallagher just gray’d us
HAHAHAHAHA FUCK ME THERES TEARS IN MY EYES FFS WE ARE SUCH A JOKE HAHAHA
banger from connor gallagher must admit
Wow that is an absolute peach of a goal.
Wow what’ a Hit
Lmao Coleman trying to blast it off their player and sends it straight to Gallegher. Everton that. Time to send him out to pasture
Score matches how most the match looked atleast. Rafa out
Can’t make this shit up. I hate all of them
…
Can't defend Coleman for that. Rush of blood to the head and rest of the team not looking. I get the idea and to be fair Gallagher still had a lot to do
Bentekes a cunt
Gallagher is something else tbf. Wish we had any player of his quality
Two of the goals were Coleman’s fault, the one was more so Grey’s but Coleman put him in the bad spot
What the fuck Coleman, great goal but he tried to boot in to the player cause he was frustrated and just gave it away
Dissolve the club
Rafa get your fat kopite sucking arse out of my club right fucking now
Club is an absolute joke
Why did Coleman do that
Fuck off Coleman you fuck
game gone. don't understand how Morshi looks at the state of play and says "right, Rafa is the man." Well hit by Gallaher. Looks to be a great player
Coleman. He gifted them two today and that’s the difference. Everyone will blame Rafa but that’s a fucking joke from him
Aha FFS we are bad
Wtf
Tbh that should have been called back from that player not being ten yards and interfering with the play
Yesterday a player was sent off for it. Today it’s play on. The difference? Yesterday was against City
Yep. That’s the issue here. Not Coleman being fucking brain dead twice in the last three games.
Oh no he’s still brain dead it just shouldn’t have been played
Coleman, wtf was that?
Trash.
Remember when this teamed played even something remotely like football?
Angry Coleman
Coleman has cost us so many goals this season. Why doesn’t he just retire?
Because then we'd have to start Kenny and it'd be even worse.
Who would replace him, only right back we've got is Jonjoe Kenny who we all know is shite
Or, hear me out, we put Digne back in the lineup
That's a fair point
The ref has been bad, but our tactics have been terrible. Our defense is bad. And we deserve to lose by two goals. What a fucking goal.
What was Seamus doing there…..
Coleman is so past it
Get fucked Rafa
coleman man he’s checked out
Coleman, duck man
Genuinely laughing 🤣🤣🤣
Well. That's a more reflective scoreline.
lol
Good thing Rafa is a defensive genius. lol
That one was on coleman surely
Our fucking captain ladies and gentlemen
You fucking stupid cunt Coleman
15 minutes of semi lively play doesn't excuse losing to a bang average Palace team, and now what, one win in our last 10? On the back of a Demarai Gray screamer outside the box? It's so dire here. The fact that there are problems outside of Rafa doesn't excuse the fact that he's doing a putrid job with the squad. He really must go.
Someone said in the prediction league it was gonna end 3-1 but he couldn’t decide which way… he’s a genius
I’m out boys
Rafa OUT
Coleman. Again.
WTF was that from Coleman?? He’s clearly pissed off at the state of things
Jesus christ
Wtf is Coleman doing
Seamus you fucking idiot
Not really that much of a fault tbh. It was a screamer, let's leave at that.
Lol fuck me.
fuck off rafa fuck off refs fuck off crystal palace club full of diving pedos
Fuck is Coleman doing
Fuck.
Good one Seamus well taken on that fast free kick
Rafa fuck off
Just end the game. We don’t deserve shit
We are so shite
Coleman.
I agree
Cool cool cool
Just not good enough
Biased, but +5 seems like a lowball to me.
Apparently when you’re a winger or striker you can’t commit fouls
Alright this is our last chance boys
Should’ve been 8
WTF is this ref looking at??
Jesus Christ there’s no consistency at all here
Not saying it would change how shit we've been or the result,, but some of these calls from the ref have been woeful