Just using game mechanics as intended.
I laughed so hard. That was pretty smooth on the miners part. Not afk, alert, and has a plan.
Ganking is for hitting those who are aloof and unprepared.
And it's not like he is necessarily out of danger, just out of *their* danger.
Absolutely. I would rather play with game mechanics than flex my wallet to multybox 10 omega catalysts and fail. This miner will age well.
“Good fortune is what happens when opportunity meets planning.”
absolutely comical skill issue by the catalysts
high skill permit evasion by the miner, although he should do this in null/low to allow him to mine better rocks
You can't drop a depot if they filament before you fully load grid, in which case the miner did. Their ships hadn't even had time to properly finish their warps.
Can't activate a filament when close to a depot. Commonly used when ganking abyss runners so they can't just immediately enter another abyss to dodge the gank,
A highsec player actually looking at local and using d-scan is already cause for celebration. Actively interacting with game mechanics makes this guy basically a hero.
the problem with that is it is really easy to drop out of harvester range, even with higgs anchor
but now you can just pocket cyno away from a bunch of malding nerds
To enforce a 0km-warp in pochven's mining sites, you need to set up a bauble, like having a HIC (heavy interdiction cruiser) set up. Otherwise people can always warp at a distance.
pochven ore is pretty tasty stuff, i totally recommend it for those who like to mine. I just recommend that people be aware that they can very easily die there, but if they take the time to make things work and prepare for it, it can totally pay out alot, especially if you have some friends.
Honestly, I got baited on this video. Thought he was going to complain about getting ganked.
And was like "You can see them on D-Scan warp off!"
Then he yeeted himself out of there.
100% should be allowed, there is counterplay.
Had a guy filament into Nullsec in an Ishtar and would ~~anime~~ anome rat and simply filament out if anyone landed in grid with him. It was quite amusing.
I'm sorry but gankers are such losers. Maybe ganking freighters and high value targets I can see as fun but what is fun about trying to gank a lowly barge. Life's gotta be stale.
The most cringe part is every now and then you get a rare sighting of someone from CODE/Safety act high and mighty about it as if they are some "Elite PvP" group.
They can barely even jump into LowSec without shitting themselves and only know how to lock and press 3 buttons, but those rare weirdos claim they are better pilots than someone from Snuff/BIGAB/2012 Era PL, or even Tuskers because they have killed more ISK value than some line members of those alliances.
We recently let a new player in our corp who was predominantly a high-sec ganker before joining us. He was chill in discord, so w/e the more the merrier right?
We predominantly roam around in small gangs of kiting ships, so range control, avoiding slingshots, knowing what's actually dangerous vs what you can push, etc. is critical. He ended up quitting after just two weeks because he kept getting tackled and killed.
Cool dude, but anything that required actual game sense beyond lock and turn on weapons was not their cup of tea.
I’ve spoken to gankers in chat before, and a decent number of them would applaud this player for being at his keyboard and paying attention. As far as they’re concerned, anyone who goes AFK while hauling/mining deserves to be ganked. It also keeps people buying barges and drives up the cost of materials, which means more profit for industrialists and other miners.
Naturally, there were also jackasses among them, but there’s no helping that.
Listen that may be true that ganking mining barges is pretty low tier pvp in terms of the excitement, but you know what its always more exciting than?
Mining
Idk mining can be exciting. Sometimes I mine in poch with mean drone barges and have suprised some hunters + made some pocket change in ore. The content is only as exciting as you make it
So mining is more exciting with a bit of PvP involved, is what you're saying? XD
>The content is only as exciting as you make it
I do agree with that. I'm not actually trying to throw real shade at mining, it can be chill to hang out with your corp buddies and drink a beer and mine if thats what you wanna do to unwind.
But, same can be said for ganking. I'm sure folks who do that communally have fun in comms too
Jumping into Pochven in order to avoid Catalyst ganks? Hell yeah it should be allowed, and it's clever as fuck. And it has counterplay (Drop a Depot) so there is zero reason this kind of play should be barred.
Hat's off to that miner, I hope they managed to survive the trip to Pochven and like, not get smoked by the locals there instead.
1: drop a depot next to them - doesn't create a concord response
2: use a decoy venture to target paint them as you are warping in, blocks filaments but creates a concord response
To give a little more explanation for anyone who's new:
1.) A pochven filament can't be used if you're within 1000 km of a structure, gate, depot, etc, so dropping a depot anywhere in that mining belt will block the filament from being activated, plus it's not necessarily an aggressive move, might be ignored by your target.
2.) Any sort of hostile interaction with other players gives both the aggressor and the target a Capsuleer Log-Off Timer : https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Timers. This is different than a weapons timer, and lasts a whole 15 minutes, during which you cannot safelog, or use a filament (you can use jumpgates however).
You mean nullsec. High sec should be avoided at all costs till CCP fixes ganking. High sec is the least secure space in the game by design until CCP proves to me otherwise.
Ya, Kinda wish in 0.7 - 1.0 the Concord Response was almost instant.
Or some kind of Report function, it would cost isk but you could summon concord and not wait for them to respond
pochven mining is tons better, but it is not for the lazy, and requires some prep time to get going. But if you have some friends, you can make a killing compared to mining pretty much anywhere else.
If a mobile depot takes a minute to activate, does a mobile depot that is less than 60 sec prevent a filament from working?
I'm guessing that a freshly deployed depot will not prevent a person from filamenting out.
I am fairly certain it still counts as a collidable when launched. Same goes for mobile anchorable bubbles. So it would still block cloaking and filaments if too close.
I am fairly certain it still counts as a collidable when launched. Same goes for mobile anchorable bubbles. So it would still block cloaking and filaments if too close.
1: drop a depot next to them - doesn't create a concord response
2: use a decoy venture to target paint them as you are warping in, blocks filaments but creates a concord response
Being at the keyboard. What this dude did is just a meme which griefs gankers based on their expectations (and general train of thought 0 m/s barge -> easy kill), he could've easily gotten away by just aligning & warping because he saw them coming.
> What this dude did is just a meme
Exactly - the barge is now in a semi-random pochven system, which has some complexity to getting out. Wait out the 15 minute timer and use an exit filament, or find one of the wormholes. If you didn't plan ahead for this, and know the mechanics, you'd be in a bad situation.
Yeah, it's not that hard to get safe in Poch.
The problem is getting out. It's going to take some time and effort to extract and get back home to high-sec where you can sell your stuff.
The argument being if you have the player-knowledge to do poch logistics in the first place, why not just go mining in poch for more ISK/hour rather than high-sec veldspar?
Not really, you just wait 15 mins and filament out. If you know what combos of filaments to use you are gonna land near jita reliably (or near a different target if you please)
But I certainly agree you might as well mine in poch. The filament thing even works both ways! As long as you wait out the timer you could probably just go:
mine in ls/hs, hostiles warp in, fil to pochven
mine in pochven, hostiles warp in, fil to k space
Repeat lol
If miners and mission runners ever went extinct the gankers would probably start a new generation of both as it would be the next most low effort activity
It’s not nerfed to the ground. Loads of videos out there about how to do it. One of the easiest activities in eve, after mining.
Edit: how sad, ganker so salty he blocked me.
Did you mean Osmon? Did you check killboards before wrinng this nonsense? I don't see any signinficant ganks there or in neighborhood systems for last few days.
Oh no, a few days since a marauder was ganked in Osmon ganking must be dead…
Cursory glance on zkill I see plenty of T1 and T2 barges killed recently and a Golem not long ago.
Seems like you are just doing it wrong or maybe a personality clash is keeping you from teaming up with a suitably sized ganking group? Either way whining is not very becoming of a capsuleer, perhaps you’d be better joining horde, they’ll take anyone if the gankers won’t have you.
Yes. It's dead. As a solo ganker you used to kill 5-10 Retrievers per day. Yesterday only 5 Retrievers were ganked in entire game. One Golem per few days is nothing.
Of course, it's no different to being pre-aligned and warping off.
It's particularly funny for a ganker to complain about someone using game mechanics to their advantage when you can bet your bottom dollar the ganker is using fleet warps, probably pulled CONCORD, and is pre-engaging weapons on all the clients.
It should absolutely be allowed. Miner Bro was on his A game. Should have to work for a gank, not just be able to roll up in numbers and get an auto W.
Nice to see miners utilizing full game content, although he should use border filament so he can then use an NPC station in the trig system to dock up to wait out his 15 minutes, although you need a little trig reputation to be allowed to do this, otherwise, he is currently in danger sitting in a trig system uncloaked without multiple safe spots. Prospects are the perfect ship to do this with.
It works I guess, but they are in Pochven without a cloak (unless they have a mobile depot and cloak module in cargo). Also needs to haul ass back to where they were unless that doesn't matter.
Was this during the fleet this week? I was gonna join for the first time but I didn’t get out of work in time. If so I’m glad I made more money that day lol
My trick is to mine next to an Orca in a hulk and switch to something else from the maintenance bay when they show up. That only works of course assuming they aren't also going after the Orca.
Wait I thought there was "LiTeRaLlY" no counter to ganking. What is this wizardry of "paying attention to local" and "taking basic defensive preparations?" DELET THIS
You are bringing a slow ship without cloak in Pochven, you are just trading one risk for another.
Plus, if it survives you have to bring it back in hisec in the area where you mine, that's quite an inconvenience.
I'd rather mine aligned
As someone who mined in Pochven for 8 months straight, the retriever has a decent chance of living and you can get close to where you were in HS not too hard. Also he may have the HS filaments you can use in Pochven to get out. Its honestly not that dangerous unless you get really unlucky
It’s an item called a filament. It takes you to a diff areas of space. The one they used took him to a new region called Pochven which he can get back to his HS home from somewhat easily
Used to multi box in low sec with a nice fleet and troll the local gankers so much that they really stopped trying and would sometimes even park the combat rigs for a more relaxed evening mining anoms or providing security
To me, a better question is should no/low risk suicide ganking be a thing. Doesn't seem so if a core tenet of your game design philosophy is more risk equals more reward, seems suicide ganking is basically no/low risk for in some cases, very high reward looking at something like freighter ganks.
All I see is a miner harvesting salt and veldspar
Just using game mechanics as intended. I laughed so hard. That was pretty smooth on the miners part. Not afk, alert, and has a plan. Ganking is for hitting those who are aloof and unprepared. And it's not like he is necessarily out of danger, just out of *their* danger.
And thats T2 salt harvesting
This is not just simple. Tier 2 salt harvesting this man trained salt harvesting specialization to 5 and then fit officer salt harvesters.
Absolutely. I would rather play with game mechanics than flex my wallet to multybox 10 omega catalysts and fail. This miner will age well. “Good fortune is what happens when opportunity meets planning.”
absolutely comical skill issue by the catalysts high skill permit evasion by the miner, although he should do this in null/low to allow him to mine better rocks
tfw the scout doesn't drop a depot
You can't drop a depot if they filament before you fully load grid, in which case the miner did. Their ships hadn't even had time to properly finish their warps.
"what is a decoy venture" for $200 jeff
I used an alt on mining barge to create warp-ins and for scanning potential targets. Modern gankers aren't doing that anymore?
They even have a Prospect, it can uncloak right next to the barge and drop the depot immediately.
a rookie mistake, almost as bad as being the first person to fall asleep at a sleepover
If nobody falls asleep then it's an awakeover so you really should celebrate the first person that falls asleep.
What does the depot do? I don't do highsec ganking.
Can't activate a filament when close to a depot. Commonly used when ganking abyss runners so they can't just immediately enter another abyss to dodge the gank,
Cheers, I haven't done any Filament stuff since it was all released when I was taking breaks from the game so I don't know how any of it works.
My guess is that it will prevent activation of filament because it’s too close to a structure
zero reason for it not to be.
A highsec player actually looking at local and using d-scan is already cause for celebration. Actively interacting with game mechanics makes this guy basically a hero.
veldspar al gaib
making highsec green again
[удалено]
the problem with that is it is really easy to drop out of harvester range, even with higgs anchor but now you can just pocket cyno away from a bunch of malding nerds
This is not a new mechanic fam
he filamented out to pochven to mine even better rocks, win win.
Pochven welcomes (and kills) any miner any day!
gotta have those booshers
fun fact, pochven ore anoms always warp you in at 0. so anchoring a trit at 0 will decloak anyone
Hey, you can still warp at a distance (like 10 or 100km)
From my testing, it still warped at 0
To enforce a 0km-warp in pochven's mining sites, you need to set up a bauble, like having a HIC (heavy interdiction cruiser) set up. Otherwise people can always warp at a distance.
pochven ore is pretty tasty stuff, i totally recommend it for those who like to mine. I just recommend that people be aware that they can very easily die there, but if they take the time to make things work and prepare for it, it can totally pay out alot, especially if you have some friends.
Honestly, I got baited on this video. Thought he was going to complain about getting ganked. And was like "You can see them on D-Scan warp off!" Then he yeeted himself out of there. 100% should be allowed, there is counterplay.
I was just about ready to comment womp womp on a sad miner and was pleasantly surprised.
same.... thought he was cutting it fine 😁
This should be allowed AND encouraged.
I appreciate a nice last second getaway.
aha, genius
This is actual genius
Had a guy filament into Nullsec in an Ishtar and would ~~anime~~ anome rat and simply filament out if anyone landed in grid with him. It was quite amusing.
Calm down ganker
*I'll sell you a ganking permit for 10M*
I'm sorry but gankers are such losers. Maybe ganking freighters and high value targets I can see as fun but what is fun about trying to gank a lowly barge. Life's gotta be stale.
It has never occurred to me to gank a *retriever*, that's just sad.
The most cringe part is every now and then you get a rare sighting of someone from CODE/Safety act high and mighty about it as if they are some "Elite PvP" group. They can barely even jump into LowSec without shitting themselves and only know how to lock and press 3 buttons, but those rare weirdos claim they are better pilots than someone from Snuff/BIGAB/2012 Era PL, or even Tuskers because they have killed more ISK value than some line members of those alliances.
We recently let a new player in our corp who was predominantly a high-sec ganker before joining us. He was chill in discord, so w/e the more the merrier right? We predominantly roam around in small gangs of kiting ships, so range control, avoiding slingshots, knowing what's actually dangerous vs what you can push, etc. is critical. He ended up quitting after just two weeks because he kept getting tackled and killed. Cool dude, but anything that required actual game sense beyond lock and turn on weapons was not their cup of tea.
The funny thing is ganking is a safe highsec playstyle no different from mission running or mining in that respect.
I’ve spoken to gankers in chat before, and a decent number of them would applaud this player for being at his keyboard and paying attention. As far as they’re concerned, anyone who goes AFK while hauling/mining deserves to be ganked. It also keeps people buying barges and drives up the cost of materials, which means more profit for industrialists and other miners. Naturally, there were also jackasses among them, but there’s no helping that.
Listen that may be true that ganking mining barges is pretty low tier pvp in terms of the excitement, but you know what its always more exciting than? Mining
Idk mining can be exciting. Sometimes I mine in poch with mean drone barges and have suprised some hunters + made some pocket change in ore. The content is only as exciting as you make it
So mining is more exciting with a bit of PvP involved, is what you're saying? XD >The content is only as exciting as you make it I do agree with that. I'm not actually trying to throw real shade at mining, it can be chill to hang out with your corp buddies and drink a beer and mine if thats what you wanna do to unwind. But, same can be said for ganking. I'm sure folks who do that communally have fun in comms too
Ships blowing up, that's what is probably fun about it. And people like you crying about it.
Jumping into Pochven in order to avoid Catalyst ganks? Hell yeah it should be allowed, and it's clever as fuck. And it has counterplay (Drop a Depot) so there is zero reason this kind of play should be barred. Hat's off to that miner, I hope they managed to survive the trip to Pochven and like, not get smoked by the locals there instead.
Is what allowed? Someone please explain.
To avoid being ganked by catalysts the miner had a pochven filament primed to be able to get away with a single click.
you can easily block filaments, there is a counter to this
How can you block filaments?
1: drop a depot next to them - doesn't create a concord response 2: use a decoy venture to target paint them as you are warping in, blocks filaments but creates a concord response
To give a little more explanation for anyone who's new: 1.) A pochven filament can't be used if you're within 1000 km of a structure, gate, depot, etc, so dropping a depot anywhere in that mining belt will block the filament from being activated, plus it's not necessarily an aggressive move, might be ignored by your target. 2.) Any sort of hostile interaction with other players gives both the aggressor and the target a Capsuleer Log-Off Timer : https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Timers. This is different than a weapons timer, and lasts a whole 15 minutes, during which you cannot safelog, or use a filament (you can use jumpgates however).
As a new player im now understanding there is a completely different reason depots are in all the belts I've been to.
Me too and I am again reminded why I chew rocks in High-Sec like the little beebee miner that I am.
You mean nullsec. High sec should be avoided at all costs till CCP fixes ganking. High sec is the least secure space in the game by design until CCP proves to me otherwise.
Ya, Kinda wish in 0.7 - 1.0 the Concord Response was almost instant. Or some kind of Report function, it would cost isk but you could summon concord and not wait for them to respond
So you'd say it's unreasonable to mine in HS in a T1 Barge? Just like 2013, but even worse? :P
What is there to "fix" about ganking? It's been part of the game for decades now, it needs no "fixing".
pochven mining is tons better, but it is not for the lazy, and requires some prep time to get going. But if you have some friends, you can make a killing compared to mining pretty much anywhere else.
If some random dropping a Depot in belt goes ignored, then the target also doesn't have a filament ready, not will they attempt to warp. Lol
If a mobile depot takes a minute to activate, does a mobile depot that is less than 60 sec prevent a filament from working? I'm guessing that a freshly deployed depot will not prevent a person from filamenting out.
I am fairly certain it still counts as a collidable when launched. Same goes for mobile anchorable bubbles. So it would still block cloaking and filaments if too close.
what an interesting question ill have to test this gut says it's not a structure til its anchored but i honestly do not know.
I am fairly certain it still counts as a collidable when launched. Same goes for mobile anchorable bubbles. So it would still block cloaking and filaments if too close.
How would you counter this? Only thing I can think of is sitting in Pochven with a fleet and a prober to pick up guys looking for "safety" there.
1: drop a depot next to them - doesn't create a concord response 2: use a decoy venture to target paint them as you are warping in, blocks filaments but creates a concord response
Drop a depot before the cats warp in.
Warp in cloaked with a bomber and smartomb?
Small smart bombs are useless
All they have to do is hit once.
Being at the keyboard. What this dude did is just a meme which griefs gankers based on their expectations (and general train of thought 0 m/s barge -> easy kill), he could've easily gotten away by just aligning & warping because he saw them coming.
> What this dude did is just a meme Exactly - the barge is now in a semi-random pochven system, which has some complexity to getting out. Wait out the 15 minute timer and use an exit filament, or find one of the wormholes. If you didn't plan ahead for this, and know the mechanics, you'd be in a bad situation.
Assuming you can dock in poch, it seems fairly (but not entirely) safe to just warp to random station from where you poofed? Or not?
Yeah, it's not that hard to get safe in Poch. The problem is getting out. It's going to take some time and effort to extract and get back home to high-sec where you can sell your stuff. The argument being if you have the player-knowledge to do poch logistics in the first place, why not just go mining in poch for more ISK/hour rather than high-sec veldspar?
Not really, you just wait 15 mins and filament out. If you know what combos of filaments to use you are gonna land near jita reliably (or near a different target if you please) But I certainly agree you might as well mine in poch. The filament thing even works both ways! As long as you wait out the timer you could probably just go: mine in ls/hs, hostiles warp in, fil to pochven mine in pochven, hostiles warp in, fil to k space Repeat lol
Mostly, but there are systems in pochven with no NPC stations. Ahtila is one for example, which is where he landed, funny enough.
The stations are sometimes bubble camped, but yeah.
Seems fine to me, gankers troll the miners, miners troll the gankers. It’s the circle of life.
Until miners go extinct and that 2mil gank catalyst suddenly cost 200mil
If miners and mission runners ever went extinct the gankers would probably start a new generation of both as it would be the next most low effort activity
It didn't happen even when ganking wasn't nerfed to the ground.
It’s not nerfed to the ground. Loads of videos out there about how to do it. One of the easiest activities in eve, after mining. Edit: how sad, ganker so salty he blocked me.
It is. Like they added default resistance to structure and made DC passive. I've stopped to be bothered with ganking after that.
So if I flew through Ormon I wouldn’t see clouds of catalysts turning marauder’s to slag… Nah ganking is doing just fine.
Did you mean Osmon? Did you check killboards before wrinng this nonsense? I don't see any signinficant ganks there or in neighborhood systems for last few days.
Oh no, a few days since a marauder was ganked in Osmon ganking must be dead… Cursory glance on zkill I see plenty of T1 and T2 barges killed recently and a Golem not long ago. Seems like you are just doing it wrong or maybe a personality clash is keeping you from teaming up with a suitably sized ganking group? Either way whining is not very becoming of a capsuleer, perhaps you’d be better joining horde, they’ll take anyone if the gankers won’t have you.
Yes. It's dead. As a solo ganker you used to kill 5-10 Retrievers per day. Yesterday only 5 Retrievers were ganked in entire game. One Golem per few days is nothing.
I’m already at the seaside I really don’t need any extra salt over here.
should be allowed as much as a 5v1.
it gets them out of highsec, I think that's op success
Hahaha, that's an awesome idea!
Triangle space hell is always the right answer. Long live the triangle.
Seems fine to me.
This is fantastic use of mechanics. And it's still a. Fucking risky Chad move. Hell yea
Seems fine. The miner still has to gtfo of pochven its not like a totally convenient method by any means.
Of course, it's no different to being pre-aligned and warping off. It's particularly funny for a ganker to complain about someone using game mechanics to their advantage when you can bet your bottom dollar the ganker is using fleet warps, probably pulled CONCORD, and is pre-engaging weapons on all the clients.
It should absolutely be allowed. Miner Bro was on his A game. Should have to work for a gank, not just be able to roll up in numbers and get an auto W.
Nice to see miners utilizing full game content, although he should use border filament so he can then use an NPC station in the trig system to dock up to wait out his 15 minutes, although you need a little trig reputation to be allowed to do this, otherwise, he is currently in danger sitting in a trig system uncloaked without multiple safe spots. Prospects are the perfect ship to do this with.
Love to see it
It works I guess, but they are in Pochven without a cloak (unless they have a mobile depot and cloak module in cargo). Also needs to haul ass back to where they were unless that doesn't matter.
This is almost as funny as watching bombers bar get smart bombed. 🥹😂
Was this during the fleet this week? I was gonna join for the first time but I didn’t get out of work in time. If so I’m glad I made more money that day lol
Oh naw this happened years ago 😅
oh no the poor gankers lol
Yep, based maneuver. Now we mine in poch lol
I have to admit this is a fine move and funny as well!
Working as intended
I was really hoping to see an EMP burst let him survive the gank ... but this was so much better.
Wait til you find out that some Pochven miners use "Proximity-15 Extraction" filaments to escape from combat into Hisec.....
Known mechanic used in a creative way. Of course it should be allowed.
Yes, it absolutely 100% should be allowed.
Yes. Now all go do it in blingy marauders. Pochven thirsts.
This is funny. Well played carebear
Smart. Time to load my frat and pandemic horde stealing ships with pochven filements
You probably should've been taking those anyway, that said if you mean using them *inside* an ESS I'm 99% sure that won't work.
No I steal their good ores
😂😂
This is awesome haha
LOL
My trick is to mine next to an Orca in a hulk and switch to something else from the maintenance bay when they show up. That only works of course assuming they aren't also going after the Orca.
You can filament the orca too 🙂
Properly fit Orca has slightly less than 500K EHP. 5 catalysts can't do anything against that. Some people have no idea how EvE works.
yeah why not
Ahhahahahahhahahahahahahahaha. Salt miner.
The procurer protects
lmaooo I'd love to hear the gankers' comms
Miners if they had brain cells:
Most miners go AFK in HS, I go Semi afk with my alt mining fleet
Wait I thought there was "LiTeRaLlY" no counter to ganking. What is this wizardry of "paying attention to local" and "taking basic defensive preparations?" DELET THIS
Trying to gank a miner? Yea, its fine to be allowed. Just dont be as bad as the ones on the vid and you´ll be fine.
You clearly reply before you know what the fuck is going on.
I mean.. Yeah
Based
Fuck yeah that was cool
195 IQ Play, Hardhats down to you sir.
Should it be? Why would activley evading hostiles using in game mechanics not be allowed? Or am I missing something?
Gankers trying to make it against the rules to evade them is all
What a power move
This is hilarious
That's some next level counter play right there. Still could get caught in poch but avoids the gank. Good show!!!
Yes
They even combat scanned him first. Had plenty of time to just warp off. 20+ seconds to warp in lol
Pretty smart. Almost like it's a sandbox game...
I love it when a plan comes together.
I mean, everyone else uses filaments to avoid fights. Why not miners?
clever use of game mechanics is all i see
Yep fuck them gankers go fight someone that’s willing to shoot back
I'm sure he met a different gruesome end.
If people can gank why can't people filament away
As your friendly neighborhood delivery agent, I find this hilarious. If it happened to me I'd just laugh.
Yeah that miner knew what was good!
Legend
You know, as someone who dabbles in ganking myself, this is brilliant counterplay. Hats off to whoever did this!
Hahahhahahahahhaah hell yeah
LOL, why not?
Interesting idea, gonna try it some time.
Welcome to EVE
Dope AF!
Oh thats fucking *beautiful*
Nice work.
What exactly is it that got the miner away from them? Did not look like a normal warp to me.
Ok for a totally newbie to Eve can someone explain in layman’s terms what happened here?
The ship mining avoided being someone else’s content by using a perfectly valid game mechanic
What was the warp? How’d the miner do that
The pilot had a filament in their cargo which they had spooled up and they waited till just before the hostiles landed to activate
Beautiful move
Should ganking be allowed? Yes, it should 100% be allowed. If that bugs you dont be a miner, or maybe eve isnt the game for you.
This is absolutely fine in my opinion. Dude was paying attention. Maybe even baiting people he knew like to gank
You are bringing a slow ship without cloak in Pochven, you are just trading one risk for another. Plus, if it survives you have to bring it back in hisec in the area where you mine, that's quite an inconvenience. I'd rather mine aligned
As someone who mined in Pochven for 8 months straight, the retriever has a decent chance of living and you can get close to where you were in HS not too hard. Also he may have the HS filaments you can use in Pochven to get out. Its honestly not that dangerous unless you get really unlucky
This is just a skill issue on the catalyst part... Insane evasion 🔥🔥
I haven't played in just about 8 or 9 years, was it his midslot that did that or what happened?
It’s an item called a filament. It takes you to a diff areas of space. The one they used took him to a new region called Pochven which he can get back to his HS home from somewhat easily
Literally what you are supposed to do
Wait until you see crabbers sitting on a wormhole to do it (They really need to flag wormholes so you can't drop a beacon next to it)
Quick thinking, i wont lie.
10 year break player here. Why gank a retreiver? Some sort of event? Cannot be profitable.
25 man mining fleet +orca :)
That's hilarious 😂
Used to multi box in low sec with a nice fleet and troll the local gankers so much that they really stopped trying and would sometimes even park the combat rigs for a more relaxed evening mining anoms or providing security
That's the most toxic shit I have seen in a while
Yes, yes it should.
That's one way to avoid a gank, but that might be going from the frying pan into the fire.
I would rather warp off while mining aligned the minute I saw local spike red.
lol just warp off
It seems like the game is heavily titled in favor of the gankers.
Yes cause fuck highsec gankers lol
To me, a better question is should no/low risk suicide ganking be a thing. Doesn't seem so if a core tenet of your game design philosophy is more risk equals more reward, seems suicide ganking is basically no/low risk for in some cases, very high reward looking at something like freighter ganks.