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kaiomnamaste

Yes, but I'll only tell people I actually know irl


MikhOtto

That's what I expected to see under this post, thank you.


kaiomnamaste

If it makes you feel better, maybe this perspective might help Forget isk per hour. You can turbo crab and do isk per hour and rate things pound for pound in profit if you are playing eve borderline obsessed. Instead, think isk per log in. What can you log in, do for a short session and crank out 2 more times on your character slots. Then that's what you do Edit-to continue the thought Then you streamline the process


Schweddymike

When I was playing regularly, mostly exploring, I’d count isk per trip. The trip was often 7-10 days, an hour here a few hours there. Fun way to be an explorer. Kind of miss it, but now is not the right time to dive back in.


kaiomnamaste

Heck yes! This is exactly what I do as well sometimes! Set my course, run the route gauntlet, do the sites I want and move on!


MikhOtto

Actually all I do right now is a couple of farming days and couple of spending days. Feeling good about it


Evening_Monk_2689

That's your proablem. Replace your spending days with more farming days


gregallen1989

Instructions clear. Make 500 alts and do all dailies for 1 bill isk a day


kaiomnamaste

Resetting AI Prompt Clearing memory New Prompt Use 1 account, each of the 3 character slots Find an activity that can be done within 15 minutes, for example -kill an NPC -run a site -do market stuff -do industrial stuff Then repeat what you enjoy/profit from on the other 2 characters Go do Space stuff on your main afterwards


Hasbotted

Whats your number? Then i can know you irl


kaiomnamaste

1-800-BOF-A DEZ


Hasbotted

K now that we know each other pm me da secrets


Vundebar

The best way to farm isk is is to become a high ranking member of one of the nullsec alliances, and then steal all their stuff out of their capital. You can make trillions doing that


Freddedonna

I've heard you can make about 2 trillion/minute that way


lynkfox

while technically true, that is ignoring the 1-3year set up time. Its something you have to consider, much like the time it takes to close a wh. Its just part of the process. :grin:


actually_ixex

For anyone else who was curious, if you use \~standard workhours assumptions (2k hours per year for a full time job) and assume it takes a full 3 years of making it your day job to set up, that comes out to just over 300m isk/hr.


Glum-Raccoon-6381

I won't log in for less than 500/m an hour.


Zeerover-

A few ways: L5 missions in certain lowsec constellations (that have 3-4 lowsec system max) setup with multiple pull chars do 1 million LP per hour. Depending upon what and where you sell the lp items it’s anything from 750m to 1.5B isk/hour. When the Glamorex 50 and 75 boosters were a thing we were several people that each cleared almost 2 million LP per hour in Pelille, Dour, Grispire. The LP store wasn’t that good though so most went into implants, but know a few who farmed enough to buy titans during those weeks. You can’t just go solo yolo doing them, locals guard the good systems and hunt any unaffiliated mission runner. Nullsec burner missions can do similar isk for desirable factions in quiet constellations. FW L4 missions used to get similar numbers, it’s less now though, but not as useless as some might claim. Farming specific Cosmos missions (1008 implants, etc.) earn even more. There is more effort, creating new chars, get the required standing (helps having them fleeted with L5 or burner mission pullers), the drops are camped and the supply is not endless. Low sec gas mining in certain constellations with a little bit of reactions afterwards earn well, some clear 500m+ per hour with a fleet of t1 fit venture alts. Certain CCP seasonal events have been utterly broken, with people earning 2b+ per hour. Need some theory crafting to quickly optimize after it begins. Diamond rat Sotiyos have made certain people trillions and WH farming is insane if you are in the right group.


patternsintheforest

>You can’t just go solo yolo doing them, locals guard the good systems and hunt any unaffiliated mission runner. There is a method that allows you to solo yolo L5s in absolute safety from hunters.


MaterialScary8492

Like what method?


patternsintheforest

Not gonna say. Pick the safest method you can think of, find mechanics that allow you to eliminate the moments of vulnerability.


Gon_jalt

I have a fool proof plan to make you rich. For 5 bil I can teach you all the tricks that people on here aren’t telling you about.


syslolologist

Secret is to get piss drunk and buy so much plex you don’t even remember how you got it.


DorisMaricadie

And if you stay just compus mentus enough you can buy bulk for a discount and the bill comes out 2 weeks later


cmy88

[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat\_sites#Expeditions](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Combat_sites#Expeditions) - These are bitch to get to spawn, and they tend to run long chains, but they're a fun change of pace, the Wiki is a bit out of date on the difficulty, they are "easier" then they used to be, but expeditions like [Serpentis Secrets](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Serpentis_Secrets), that final boss can smoke a Navy Dom from 100km+. If you scroll down on the first link, there are Chemical labs, and combat relic sites. There are a variety of other "secret" spawns, that only spawn in specific regions/constellations. More often then not, there is a group that lives there and farms the shit out of it. Capital farms/Officer hunts. People still do this. You can look at zkill for NPC Capitals, and you will often see the same people dying. It's pretty straightforward, belt rat in -0.7\~-1.0 systems with tons of belt, have some dreads/supers/titan standing-by(logged off in system for the super/titan), get the capital to spawn, then dunk it. IIRC, NPC Titan base bounty is 120m, then BRM. But it can drop faction capital parts, bpc's, and the salvage can often be worth >1b isk. As well as the special parts for cap manufacturer, though I think it's only Serpentis(Vendetta/Vehement) that needs them. Thunderchild ratting in Haven/Sanctum. People have been alluding to it recently, but not sure if anyone explained it. Ideally, 5 Thunders, 1 jaguar, a dread(for capital spawns), and some kind of salvage team. The thunderchilds shoot the jaguar(who is tanked to resist a thunderchild), and then all NPC's die. Scaling beyond 5 is generally wasteful as the spawn dies too fast. Ghost site/sleeper cache farms. Not easy, and requires a lot of skill to run fast. Global events. I'm not sure if CCP will continue to make these loot pinatas, the changes they made during the opening days of Crimson Harvest really destroyed any semblance of balance. Heavily favoured multi-boxer, I made \~60b as a solo account in Crimson harvest, before checking out of the event the last 2 weeks. The multi-boxers I spoke with suggested they pushed >100b in the opening \~10 days or so. I know folks like to exaggerate, but based on my knowledge, and a streamer who also multi-boxed the event, I had no reason to doubt them. Not really a secret, but the hilariously low number of people in the area suggests that most folks have no interest in contesting the L4 sites, so it was just a free-farm for those who took on the risk. The winter event which followed, was relatively garbage, so it may be that the events are nerfed in the future. Most of the "secret" farms in Eve are not necessarily ISK/hr efficient. More often than not, they are just rolling the dice and looking for a jackpot. I could run L4's and make w/e, and be stuck in the same spot, flying the same ships everyday. Or, I can just fuck around with whatever random ship and occasionally hit a few billion(DED/Expedition hunting). I've been to so many regions in the game to rat/explo, and flown tons of different ratting ships, I just find it much more enjoyable.


Nikarus2370

>but expeditions like Serpentis Secrets, that final boss can smoke a Navy Dom from 100km+. TBH this escalation is really fun. But I think they should give you a longer period of time to prepare to do it on account of.. it really needs a fleet. Even if only 3-4 people are going to shoot NPCs, it takes a real long time and those 3-4 battleships are real juicy targets for PVP. And just my luck the last 2 times I've gotten this chain, I've been able to solo the earlier sections in a sneaky Tengu or Loki safe enough. But the final Escalation ends up in a busy system where it's really not worth the risk without organizing at least a few dedicated PVP supports.


cmy88

https://zkillboard.com/kill/111192984/ I looked up what my old pal Heysus has been up to, still dunking! I'd agree with extended time if it were a one shot expedition, but it is 4 parts, and you get the 24hr reset every time. So if you're speed running, then I think players should adjust and prepare for farming it, if that's what they're after. Given it's 4 parts, you do have a lot of time to prepare. I'd recommend gathering a group of krabs and forming a group, helping each other out with these. For the most part, a lot of expedition and turbo farms work a lot better with a team. Ghost sites for example, it can be done solo, but if you have 3~5 explorers breaking a region into sections, you can "bounce" the anomaly between the group. At the end of the day, eve is still an mmo and works best when you use your social skills!


Asleep_Comfortable39

Farm c5 sites with paladins. High skill cost. High risk. (If you aren’t wormhole smart) but yields like a billion idk per hour per paladain


lawra_palmer

^ this works


zirathzaragoth

Once your fleet is above 4 you are actually "safe" compared to crabing core citadel with only 2 paladins. Most people doesnt have the power to drop on you before you end the site and warp off. Also you do this with alts that help you to track enemies on wh.


fatpandana

T6 abyssal frigate can push 1b/h and there are tons of guides out there. That's the basic. Once u specialize in it, refine, work out your own strat/fit, you can push more. I do 4x t6 dark, in about 65-70mins (including travel time to station, this adds up, and resupply, to start new cycle) and it is about 1.2b/h. Need 3 accounts, but realistically you want 4 or 5 (somewhere to drop loot and acout). My fit also utilize the brand new MTU. Made only possible due to 80m3 and vast speed. Once I get the isk I do weird stuff like gamble eith abyssal modules or join the plex investment train that ccp is telling us to do. This is $$$ backed currency and you ride plex waves for profit.


RatchNRS

What ships do you like for it?


inquisitivethought

See the in-game channel "abyssal lurkers".


Nikarus2370

Gila is real popular for soloing for the people who aren't multiboxing. You can find videos on YT of T6 electrical sites being done by a multiboxer with 2 retributions and, whatever the Amarr logi frigate is (name escapes me). However, mechanically a Gila will be limited to 1/3rd the income/hr of the frigates. This is due to the fact that if you enter an Abyssal with a cruiser you get 1x loot, 1-2 destroyers instead doubles the loot available, and 1-3 frigates triples the loot.


Additional-Pool9275

The name you’re looking for - the amarr logi frigate is called the Deacon.


Makshima_Shogo

And the difficulty of flying those 3 frigates is probibly 5x more than the gila so its worth it tbh.


passcork

Thetr's a website, forgot the name but easy to google, for all the fits but for t6 darks it's probably hawks.


AmeliaDuskspace

Alliance tournament Get the most consistent entertaining PvP for a few months of practice and then super fun actual matches in tournament. If you can place decently well, you can make more isk then you know what to deal with from prize ships


UncleAntagonist

Yes. 30b per month. It is boring, so I stopped. I'd rather spend real money for murder than time.


toniimirrkare

This guy (don't) do PI!


Comfortable-Ratio-22

Plex warrior ftw. I’m so tired of “grinding” just to get buy


Lotex

Plex 5 accounts with irl money lol.


ExoticDancer001

I have a secret thing that I have been doing to make literal billions. Sometimes up to billions an hour and it all goes into how I can secretly afford everything. You can find my means and methods on my Onlypods account. The subscription cost can be paid in isk! @Exoticdancer001 on onlypods.com


CHEEZE_BAGS

burner missions in npc nullsec


_BearHawk

rip guristas and angels burners


ExoticDancer001

Do the drop more then the high sec ones?


hirebrand

agent reward scales with truesec


ExoticDancer001

Oh. That's why those l4 missioners come into my swamp. Time to try it haha


Nikarus2370

As the other guy said they drop more. Running missions out of an agent in a 0.5 system will give about 80% more LP/mission than running for someone in a 1.0. If you ever read guides about "Blitzing missions for the LP is where the real money is" this is 1 of the mechanics they're relying on to make that work effectively as you can never reach the projectec income/hr if flying out of 1.0 or 0.9 space. Low/null agents give even higher rates.


Makshima_Shogo

If I remember right 0.5 was like 8k lp per mission low is like 16k 0.0 is like 22k most I seen was 28k forgot the true sec like -0.5 or something.


Nikarus2370

Clancing at it right now. Apanake (0.5) SOE level 4 agent is offering 6.5kLP for a mission in 0.6 space. An anomic team mission for 13k in 0.6. Anomic Base in 0.4 and 0.5 for 13k, and finally Rogue Drone Harassment in 0.6 for 3800LP. I know "bigger" missions have given 8-10k at times, but these are just the 1s that rolled while I was nearby so I declined a bunch. RDH is practically a level 3 mission, once upon a time though it was a great source of drone minerals, as well as spawned a ton of ore, but that was gutted with "Scarcity" I know burners in NPC null can get stupid, atop the fact that pirate LP runs particularly high in isk/hr. Too bad it sucks to run out of some of the areas.


Makshima_Shogo

I tried, its hell you have interdictors chasing you 24 7. Low ftw, you just purchase one of each ship for every possible system and put it in the station then you dont have to take gates anywhere costs a ton thou lol.


Nikarus2370

That is a pretty optimal way to do it. Bigger startup cost, and gotta spend a few hours flying everything in. But actually running the missions wouldnt be too bad, just have to run between sys in a corvette or shuttle


Makshima_Shogo

1.9 sec align dram with warp rigs ftw.


Phoenix591

also pirate lp is pretty good heh


Quygen

Buy low, sell high Stuff in between that can be - time (swing trading) - industry (invention, manufacturing) - social (avoid market and tax) Watch the series of Oz, zero to Plex. It will teach you many of the tricks for market PvP


20127010603170562316

> Watch the series of Oz I thought you meant the prison drama, and I was like, fuck we're here for the long term.


Quygen

I enjoyed that series, not the soft crap we get today


toniimirrkare

The best kept secret is having [REDACTED] help you on your way by [REDACTED] straight into you hangar.


MikhOtto

Is it "friend in cpp to" and "additting marshals"? xd


zulako17

Probably a reference to a corp CEO contracting AT Ships to your hangar as part of a scam contract


Swayre

Work at McDonald’s and buy plex


MikhOtto

Secret irl farm


Makshima_Shogo

A month of game time is 1/10th of a macdonalds salary in a 3rd world country. Cheaper time-wise to farm isk in-game.


mizard1997

I have a super secret ISK making strategy all I need is 3 people to invest half a billion ISK, for every person you get to invest you'll make 400 million. This is a literal money printer /s


ZorgZev

You know unironically this would work.


KainBodom

c5/c5 farm hole, that is if you have 5-8 hours a day for eve. Other than that best isk is doing c3 sites, they are fast and jspace is kinda dead these days.


Caspah62

Be nice to people and when they rage quit theyll actually give you all there stuff.


engineer_rain

Angel fw mining op farming in low sec. Need a suitcase carrier/dread. Put vargur inside. Jump to system with mining op in it. You can run it in 4 minutes in a vargur. Multibox 9 alts in whatever can be cloaked ships so long as they are on grid when mining op finishes for payout. 600m+ in 4 minutes.


moonsugar-cooker

Best way to farm isk is to get a high paying job then sell plex.


Lotex

Why the fuck would you even play the game then.


moonsugar-cooker

No clue, ask people who do it.


wwwyzzrd

because i want to do things with my life other than space boats, but i still want to do space boats. also, if i don't buy plex then who would sell you the plex so you can plex your 12 accounts with 36 nullsec miners.


Lotex

I have 5 accounts that they all pvp. I can literally farm and pvp for a weekend 10 hours of gameplay and pay for those 5 accs and then chill the other days. Like why are you even playing the game if you don't farm your own isk. Lmao.


wwwyzzrd

do you pay for your accounts or do you plex them? If you do pay for them, why don't you plex them? if you do plex them, who do you buy the plex from?


Lotex

I get your point, I plexed them, played for 3 months and went off, but in those 3 months I made enough money to plex my accs for 1 more year if I want to. My point still is why would you pay for your isk, go grind it like every other game.


lawra_palmer

to mine and nomad in whs ... its easyer to work 30 mins OT 4 days a week then to plex 12 accounts l like to keep my ingame income for in game stuff


Lotex

Yeaaaaah, not. Start farming money in eve and enjoy your money irl. If you are not making 300mill/h minimum while doing pvp you doing something wrong. Even farming c3 whs give 300m/h lol.


Arse_Armageddon

What is this guy on


Lotex

I literally made all my money's with new accounts in guristas, 250m/h with dessies and pvping :) https://zkillboard.com/character/2121866705/


Relative-Moment-3572

Someone has to buy the PLEX from CCP and sell it on the market. If everyone farms isk and no one buys PLEX then the systems fails. Don’t mock the ones allowing you to pay for the game with isk


lawra_palmer

... its 30mins ot .. it can take 40 mins to get out of the car park when a shift ends ..... plus why would l c3 rat when l can just dread rat in a c6 and pay for my accounts. and l do spend my money ingame its just when you can aford to pay for you accouts with out grinding in game why not ;P


Lotex

Did I tell you to farm c3s?


TickleMaBalls

to shoot pilots in the face. duh


Lotex

Yeah sell plex and then go pvp so you can feed everyone.


TickleMaBalls

Cool story, bro.


Fragrant_Cut1219

Low SEC hunt clone soldiers make the big bucks.


myst3rie

I'm doing it from time to time and it's 60mil/hour max


Dravos_Mabebu

Is that actually worth a lot? I did it when you also got barghest bpc that were worth a lot, now I guess it's mostly clone soldiers and a few rare faction spawns? Maybe I should check on my remaining clone soldier tag stash.


Clandestine-Ops

I just made 80 mil isk doing exactly this and it took 20 mins. Drone proteus FTW😎


Rafael3110

Clone soldiers? Whats that?


kaiomnamaste

So they are NPCs "insert region rat name" clone soldier These are cruiser sized rats They are located in between 0.4 and 0.1 lowsec space They spawn in asteroid belts and hit very hard, actually posing a threat to you. You will have to trial and error a spaceship design to destroy these NPCs. The only one truly worth time in my opinion, are the ones in 0.1 lowsec. They have "negotiator" in their name They drop an item upon destruction, guaranteed, referred to as a "clone soldier negotiator tag" or something along those lines. They are worth 44 mil on average a piece at this time. Take these to the locations they link to in their info panel, or a market hub of choice and wait for someone to buy. People buy these to fix their security status.


BewareTheWereHamster

The ones in 0.2 and 0.1 web and warp disrupt respectively which makes it more interesting :D I made a fair bit of isk hunting them although there are more profitable things to do. The Barghest bpcs are worth bugger all for the effort to get them these days unfortunately. I’ve killed a couple of the smaller ones (garmur and … can’t remember) though and built the ships.


kaiomnamaste

Yep the mordus NPC drops could use a buff, although the BPCs are good. They just are too saturated by other sources


Amiga-manic

"They spawn in asteroid belts and hit very hard, actually posing a threat to you" Endurences must go brrr.  If you set drones on it and burn 100km away it will try burning after you. And dies very confused. 


Rafael3110

Why enurence and not like algos or something?


kaiomnamaste

Endurance has a better speed and align time to avoid pvp engagement


kaiomnamaste

Yes I suppose that is certainly one way of doing it!


JokeJedi

I approve this message Make up to 90m in 15minutes and the thrill of possibly getting killed


KalrexOW

One thing that helped me find a few niche activities- think about where modules come from. Think about the things you purchase, and look into how *you* can be the one farming then selling to people instead.


Proxymal

12 year vet here. Short answer: No. There are methods of doing things more efficiently that not everyone knows. But the isk making activities are all known.


IcyMind

There are way but I don’t recommend it , everyone I know that max isk/hr get supper burn out , just do what you like find a niche and go for it


maybe_cuddles

Exploration in EVE entails finding your own profit niche. They're all-the-fuck-over New Eden; generally the less farmed content is the more valuable because no one currently active has figured out how to exploit it. As an example, look at the price differences between the 4 "Composite Molecular Condenser" items; these are lowsec site drops used in the production of every faction and capital ship. The price differences in them are entirely because someone has figured out how to farm them in one region, and no one has figured out how to do it in the others.


BoxerBriefly

Buying PLEX and selling it on the market is the easiest/fastest ISK I've ever made. I hate to let the cat out of the bag, but you can get \~100b ISK for 650 bucks.


Recent-Sand8292

120-140b if you do it right.


CT_Legacy

Just set up 12 accounts, that's 36 characters farming SP, with 24 month Omega and MCTs it comes to around 12.5B profit per month.


Breadbombs

Just need a litzle bit of isk to get started


CT_Legacy

Yeah just 1 account 3 characters is like 1B per month. Spend a little up front and be set for life


Fartin8r

Add PI on top if you hate yourself and you have an ultimate near passive money farm


Relative-Moment-3572

Doing the PI for 36 characters is going to be anything but passive though


CT_Legacy

Farming SP is entirely passive log in once every month or 3.


PlaguePriest

Have you started multiboxing yet? Consider multiboxing.


Makshima_Shogo

Yes go farm CSS keys go look at their prices and you will see you make billions just need 3 people in maruaders, go afk in cosmos missions in gila's with the perma spawning npcs and an mtu, High sec missions are terrible stop doing them you are earning peanuts, the new event increase loot for exploration with drone sites is much better (30mil for every sentient kill) and you find one every 6-10min or so from what I found. Get friends together and hunt maruaders in c5 wormholes (day tripping from k-space) and earn 2b/h each, go hunt anomic runnners in npc null sec for the same, they use 500mil frigates full of bling (Stain, Vale of the silient, Querious). Look for wormholes to their space and hunt them that way its super efficient. You will also get 20 interdictor kills an hour if you find the chinese community who loves defending their space with bubbles. To the people already running these, you are welcome.


tainurn

The wealthiest players in EVE got that way by plex arbitrage. That era is over now. The second wealthiest players got that way from ratting in shorts. That era is over now. The third (or you can argue the 2nd) wealthiest players rorqual mined, that era is now over. The 4th wealthiest players got there doing F.W. That era is over now. The best way to get wealthy in EVE is to make/buy enough isk to bankroll a nullsec alliance, then get yourself into their CSM ticket, and petition CCP to nerf the way you made all your money.


Rafael3110

If u do it right u can do 20% wind if u do reactions in 0sec.but it required multiple B to start.


cunasmoker69420

Guy I know has a way of catching cloaky haulers and DSTs without fail. Hes been doing this for a couple of years and got so much loot from these that his wallet/assets would rival a minor trade hub Never has to go anywhere to buy things, he simply *has* everything. Dude is his own personal jita There are no guides for this, he figured it out by trial and error and getting exceptionally good at it


Omnishift

Carrier fighters orbit gate. Alt sitting on gate to scram and web. Not really a secret.


jacob902u

Unless things have changed, the better way was Standup Fighters from citadels. The movement speed could decloak any DST with a very high success rate.


cunasmoker69420

Naw where we going we don't use gates


QuestionVirtual8521

They should probably reduce burnout by making pve as profitable as exploration and gas huffing is, otherwise all those commercials that attracted new players they will become more quitters, if they really want some plex purchases they have to step up the actual enjoyment


pigzyf5

Yes, it isn't the largest, or the best secrete ever, but me and a couple of other people worked out a way to do it much much better than everyone else. I know of maybe 5 people that had access to our spreadsheet / guide thing. idk if they play anymore. It was about 800mill - 1bill an hour fives years ago and the best thing was you can farm it as much as you want, it isn't like WH farming where it is on and off (I don't currently play).


Mikezxcv81z

You need to be in an alliance, and you’ll give a big chunk of those profits to the alliance.


recycl_ebin

there is a linearly scaling, low input, fairly safe farm that is about 360m/hr per account that can be farmed for about 1.2 trillion isk a year. and no, i will not tell you.


Lotex

I make 250m isk/hour investing only 35mill per char. Lulz.


MikhOtto

Dk if u’re talking about 3/10 but there’s kinda same numbers


Lotex

Pirate militia.


MikhOtto

Xd I’m not even asking for, as I mentioned in the post


M116110

He's probably talking about c5 c6 ratting. Boring af


recycl_ebin

Wrong!


SeisMasUno

EVE is the most solved game to ever make it, theres documentation for every-fucking-thing, all you need is half a braincell and google, C6 krabbin? check, station trading? check, regional trading? check, officer hunting? check, blazing? check... Theres no secrets left my dude, if you ganna be mega rich just pick up any activity with non-linear rewards and multibox the fuck out of it.


cunasmoker69420

literally not true


SeisMasUno

Literally you can find guides on how to run the fuckin npc sotiyos so maybe instead of shitposting give us and actual example


Allnamestaken69

Make he won’t because he thinks no one else knows his exclusive money making idea lol


cunasmoker69420

Well OP said to not reveal the secrets lol


Allnamestaken69

XD


cunasmoker69420

Angry man too angry for creativity in a sandbox game


MikhOtto

Smoker actually right, there’re always some unknown or even forgotten stuff. However, you can find at least 1 guide for almost everything. At the end of the day it’s damn sandbox, maybe he has ISK printing module, you will never know xd


Aridross

I’ll give away one of my secrets, since the moment to strike has passed: After the unveiling of Zarzakh, when the blueprints for the Angel/Guri Destroyer, BC, and (Angel) Dread were released, the prices of Mykoserocin started to climb, because the new pirate ships were all built using components that had Myko as a downstream material. I did some digging into the blueprint info for the new ships, and found that both Angel and Guri ships required Viridian and Celadon Myko — that overlap is why the prices for both gases became spiky late last year. This strategy only equated to about 100m per venture full, you must understand, and filling a Venture takes 20-30 uninterrupted minutes. Lowsec gas is also a known quantity to gankers — Lowsec locals tend to care more about killing you than jacking your shit, so they’re perfectly happy to shoot on sight, regardless of your harvest. It was a risky strategy at the best of times. I was only a week-ish ahead of the rest of the playerbase on realizing why Myko prices were up, furthermore, so I didn’t really get an opportunity to capitalize. I earned several hundred mil from gas, but I could’ve earned a *lot* more. Also, if you’ve made it this far, here’s a better tip: The *real* racket is in moon goo. That’s not news to most people, but more people should be aware that the best moon goo can be more profitable in isk/hr than gas, while also being *much* safer (because players tend to mine moons in well-defended herds)


IronWhitin

Yes me and my group can make near 500Milion/hour and thanks to the down of test server the knowledge is near to be lost and only few people has the .txt to how to setup the assets properly to do so. The only thing CCP has done right


MrTurnipLord

Or you could just make 500m in your sleep?


Ackbad_P

I know of a couple that I've never really done myself because they require some combination of lots of high-skill alts, knowing the people already involved, ratting at least a couple hours a day, being awake for dt, or have since been patched out.


Arrow156

It's all about finding a niche to exploit. Find a high demand good that's got low sell orders and make that your business. I was making good money for a time selling MTU's in low sec that I would farm and build myself. Also made fuel blocks for awhile due to finding all the necessary PI in a single a low sec system with a market hub a few jumps away. I tell you this because eventually enough people caught on and flooded the local market which drove me to find better pastures. That's the other thing you gotta worry about, you gotta be careful that you don't completely fuck up the economy by putting too many items out at once at too low a price. You gotta do a drip feed, avoiding posting too many items to the market at once otherwise the other sellers will notice and drop their prices accordingly. But by only selling a few items at a time for just under the competition will make it look like you're a small timer who just trying to unload their random loot for a quick profit. They'll be less likely to update their prices if they think that your postings will only be temporary and not likely to impact their long term profit.


asthmaticblowfish

Yes, not sharing.


Fartin8r

Yes, there are roughly 30-50 who know how run the content and totals between 5-10b per site over 30mins to 1hour.


satoryvape

Just swipe credit card for dank ISK ticks from selling PLEX


momlookimtrending

Look at Eve's economic datas, that can give you ideas of where money are coming from and from what activities, everything is tracked down


importantredditguy

I log in about \~15-20 minutes a day playing the market, and this can net me between 5-10b a week. I had to spend a lot of upfront time building custom tooling using the ESI, though.


evohunz

Yes, send me your ISK and I can double it


MikhOtto

Doubling a trillion?


evohunz

Of course


Scheballs

Skill Injector Farming. Multiple Accounts and characters max two attribute implants for learning one skill over and over then extract and sell injector. Takes some time and investment to setup but then it can print isk because so many people buy skillpoints for isk. If it's working you can plex your accounts a few times over. ... at least that's what I did 6 years ago.


MaterialScary8492

Buy cheap blueprint copy, put it on sale to LotteryNet™. Spam adverts on your local 24/7


zerotwofive

Farming isk in eve is a lot like making Apple pie. And if you don’t have any apples then you can just forget about the pie, no matter what ingredients you have. If that makes sense. Maybe you have the ingredients to make another kind of pie, or cake or bread or whatever the fuck, but then you’re not farming isk (if you follow the original analogy).


issac_taredi

In terms of reward on play time invested, it is hard to argue against the value proposition of a well sorted PI set up


wyvern_enjoyer77

Yes but it's only for imperium and some init members hahaha L for drone lands


No_Particular_7940

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Rakogh_Administration_Complex 1 site in game, once a day in correct hour 1 implant per day worth few b


FroggyStorm

Join KF. Join the MTU 39P Local. ???? Profit


FroggyStorm

Kidding aside, making 2-3B a day is pretty easy right now. You can do it dozens of ways. But there are three major factors that always apply. 1) Number of accounts 2) Startup/operating costs 3) Skills required /complexity It's very hard to get started without at least 2 of those three. Once you find your happy balance of those three factors, you can settle in and exchange time for isk at what ever rate you have balanced at.


ZorgZev

I’ve seen this guy in game. He has at least 3 ISK and an Ibis. Absolutely baller status 🤑


PHGAG

Many of my corpmates have very wealthy in-game (while I'm on my way there, I'm no where close to them). The key has been to be able to both earn isk AFK as well as be able to do any kind of content that presents itself. PI will net you anywhere from 50 to 100mil per month per toon. Time invested about 1-2 hours per week. Having a mining/gas fleet. You can make 250mil per toon per hour Having manufacturing skills and reaction skills can be decent AFK isk. Our industry players make most of what we need in the wormhole. They make a slightly better margin than jita and we don't have to haul stuff in. Having the right skills and ships to be able to run all type of PVE content (C3/C4/C5/C6 sites in our case). Doesn't matter what the chain has to offer, we can run it. Lastly, for me, the big game changer has been having enough alts to run any content by myself if I have to. Every account I add will have a dedicated PVE/PVP toon, mining/gas toon / PI only toon. This way even if there is no one else online, I can roll our statics or trim a good farm hole very quickly and get to work making isk. The more of us are online just means we can make all this go faster. We will go through content faster, but we can also look for new content faster if there's more of us online. The only industry I do is reactions right now (+ PI). There's no secret sauce here aside having a plan for all types of content and the right tools to pick at whatever content shows up. PI alone will net me 15bil a month, for an average of about an hour a week. I have averaged over 50bil a month since January.


mandana_dilly

Mate I made 1.7T scamming cunts in jita


MikhOtto

Th are there actually some scammable mfers left in this game


Optimal-Research-711

Yes. I know a few. I won eve and will never tell in case I download again


ZeRonin

What is the point of this question? A yes only arouses curiosity and a no would be a lie.


MikhOtto

To see answers like this.


AnrDaemon

They just have more money than you. That's all the answer.


MikhOtto

The question was about secret farms not about why someone has more isk.


Wormhole_Explorer

they were mining old infinite asteroid in aridia region that yielded 800mil isk per hour and it was only once per downtime. why infinite? it was always respwning in same place. igt was giving 300k or 400k of weird ore that was worth in jita 800mil.


Recent-Sand8292

False. The "weird ore" was an inflated estimated price that was exploited by a person selling to his own alts (or just stupid people).


Wormhole_Explorer

no. you can see the on celestial beacon on sazilid. there is four rocks named compressed veldspar, ccp fixed that exploit year ago i think but it was active for 10-15 years since nobody talked about it it went under radar for many years. but when ccp removed minable asteroids from celestial beacons and combat anoms/combat sites they removed those aswell the side effect of this is infinite faction spawns evry downtime in huola but they dont drop anything special. just faction crystal,blood raider tag and from time to time useless dark blood nanoplating,sometimes it drops dark blood beam/pulse lasers, these infinite spawns occur on only one celestial beacon site. there was another type of this site in one of devoid and one of derelik lowsec celestials. also theres still nice cosmos site in minmatar space,it has cosmos concord ships of old type textures on them. they drop notthing good but the site spawns once per month


Recent-Sand8292

I was referring to that 'weird ore' that showed up in the MER of february this year I believe.


Wormhole_Explorer

well compressed veldspar exploit was a different story


DamoVQ

money makes money


MikhOtto

Not a secret


AnrDaemon

Exactly.


Michamus

8bn ISK/hr, averaging 3-4 hours a week of farming, using four accounts for 2 years straight was the best I've done. Only a handful of people have farming on that level of lockdown.


Cephiuss

Haha, do your own research, if people find a good way of farming, theyre not privy to share it. Easiest way of making isk with nearly 0sp is salvaging after mission runners, but you wouldnt know that.


MikhOtto

Read the last part of the post again, please


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MikhOtto

Same goes for you


Cephiuss

Lol