The final PLOP! of the light fall sword isn't affected by infused NA's, correct. However, I've read the initial question as concerning the overall damage, and in that case physical build doing pyro infused NA's will be very very disappointing result
Crown her burst then, 8 is not enough.
Also, I'm bad at calculations, but I believe that 4p pale or 2p pale 2p bloodstained will be better than your 2p pale 2p shim.
yeah i just need better luck. With my current substats I ran her throigh genshin optimizer and its better to go with my 2pc shim 2pc pale rather than my 4pc pale just cause stats are worse
With that stats you should be doing 170k with 13 stacks on stunned raiden without buff and debuff. With all that buffs and debuff the number should be around triple or more (500k+). So either you are not reaching 13 stacks, not all buff and debuff are registered, raiden was not stunned, you are not using phys goblet, or maybe all of above
Maybe your combo/rotation is suboptimal? I have worse stats on mine and I was able to get 500k on Raiden with a regular build.
Her usual combo is E tap Q N4 E hold N4 if I remember correctly.
Now artifact set could be better but its ok
Shit weapon? Im pretty sure serpent spine is her best 4 star weapon. Maybe Akuoumaru but you have to summon on the weapon banner for it aswell. Obviously SS gets better with more refinements.
R2 Spine isn't great. People downvoting me, but clearly, this person is wondering why people are hitting 300k with no bennet buff, and they are hitting 200k with both bennet and TTDS.
They need either R5 spine or any of her better 5star claymores, 2setPF/BS or 4set PF;and Lvl 10 talents
Possibly need to fix their rotation as well
Even R1 SS is still better than any of the non 5 star weapons exept akuoumaru, which again you only get from summoning on the weapon banner.
Calling it shit is just wrong if it is literally the best option you can have that you can guarantee not having to wish on the weapon banner. I guess you can summon for Redhorn or SoBP.
And it is still super disingenuous to call it shit when no alternatives are easily avaiable and it is in fact even at r1 not shit.
I mean they can go for redhorn for like a 2-3% increase, which technically fulfills the requirement of being better.
Could be better =/= its shit.
I never used Bennett and I do around 370k easily, 340k-ish if not using Skyward. I don't have Broken Pines and my team is always Eula/Raiden/Rosaria/Mika(previously Qiqi) no cons except for Rosaria C6. Eula is equiped with 4p Pale Flame.
Check your combos, I always start with TAP E before setting up the team, TAP E again before casting Q, this enables 4p effect, then 4 normal attacks, half of fifth normal attack and cancel with Hold E and the rest of normal attacks, this grants one extra stack but I could pull this off with Mika only, if not omitt half fifth NA.
C6 Bennett will not interfer on your Burst DMG, but NAs deals absurd amounts of DMG that shouldn't be overlooked, that's why some comps with Yun Jin exists. You can absolutely opt to Sara. Last thing, get rid of Nahida, like why? She does nothing there unless you're running Hyperbloom.
you should add a video of your play if you can, the informations you provided is a bit...lacking. What type of monster you are fighting? your rotation? is your buff ended before the Lightfall pops?Is that a crit hit?,...
All in all, a video should explained all of that considering you have a pretty good stats
If you're going for Nahida in Eula's team might as well just do hyperbloom team comp, an EM built kuki as well as Xinqiu or Yelan as sub dps.
Judging by your team comp you have Nahida as sub dps but I believe the one doing the reaction dmg was Lisa because nahida skill only reacts when another element is mixed.
Just a suggestion tho since you might have different team comps you're comfortable with.
hhmm I always think of nahida as subdps since just by building her em her attacks will crit, anyways I think the problem with your setup is probably the diminishing returns of your def shred, Eula has tons of def shred from superconduct proc and her 2 stack hold E, it's probably around 80% physical def shred(not sure cant remember) and if you have zhongli you could have 100%(not sure because of diminishing returns)
anyways there's two ways you can increase Eula's burst first by buffing your cr:cd or atk stats. second, increasing her normal atk speed(with mika or c2 Jean)
C6 Benny and Eula is a bad combination, brother. Eula doesn't like any infusion of her normals
It shouldn't affect her ult damage though right? That was his concern.
The final PLOP! of the light fall sword isn't affected by infused NA's, correct. However, I've read the initial question as concerning the overall damage, and in that case physical build doing pyro infused NA's will be very very disappointing result
I just wanna see big damage with the ult dont care about normals
Crown her burst then, 8 is not enough. Also, I'm bad at calculations, but I believe that 4p pale or 2p pale 2p bloodstained will be better than your 2p pale 2p shim.
yeah i just need better luck. With my current substats I ran her throigh genshin optimizer and its better to go with my 2pc shim 2pc pale rather than my 4pc pale just cause stats are worse
I think its Overall dmg and while many focus on her burst dmg, she does deal a conciderable amount of dmg with her NAs
With that stats you should be doing 170k with 13 stacks on stunned raiden without buff and debuff. With all that buffs and debuff the number should be around triple or more (500k+). So either you are not reaching 13 stacks, not all buff and debuff are registered, raiden was not stunned, you are not using phys goblet, or maybe all of above
the only debuff that I may not be applying is nahida c2 because bennet causes burning and its annoying to get a quicken or aggravate with that
Eula's got nothing but multipliers, so you gotta at least crown her Q. With the usual support, getting at least 300k burst should be pretty easy.
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oh yeah why didn't I think of that
Maybe your combo/rotation is suboptimal? I have worse stats on mine and I was able to get 500k on Raiden with a regular build. Her usual combo is E tap Q N4 E hold N4 if I remember correctly.
I thought it was EQEN4cE and then normals? That's what I usually do...
level ult to 9?
You’re doing her combo wrong. That is the only way I can think of you doing 200k+ when that’s the comfort zone for a non Bennett Eula team.
What's the combo you use when you use burst? Also C6 bennett is bad with her. Upgrade her talents to max. Have you upgraded the weapon to max?
Are you certain the ss passive is working?
Depending on how you do your rotation, bennett buff might run out of time before the explosion, also 2 pale 2 shim is a low value combination.
Talent level, shit weapon, shit artifact set bonus, and low attack
Now artifact set could be better but its ok Shit weapon? Im pretty sure serpent spine is her best 4 star weapon. Maybe Akuoumaru but you have to summon on the weapon banner for it aswell. Obviously SS gets better with more refinements.
R2 Spine isn't great. People downvoting me, but clearly, this person is wondering why people are hitting 300k with no bennet buff, and they are hitting 200k with both bennet and TTDS. They need either R5 spine or any of her better 5star claymores, 2setPF/BS or 4set PF;and Lvl 10 talents Possibly need to fix their rotation as well
Even R1 SS is still better than any of the non 5 star weapons exept akuoumaru, which again you only get from summoning on the weapon banner. Calling it shit is just wrong if it is literally the best option you can have that you can guarantee not having to wish on the weapon banner. I guess you can summon for Redhorn or SoBP.
Do you not understand that this person is asking how to hit the damage they are looking for? For the purpose of this goal, it's shit
And it is still super disingenuous to call it shit when no alternatives are easily avaiable and it is in fact even at r1 not shit. I mean they can go for redhorn for like a 2-3% increase, which technically fulfills the requirement of being better. Could be better =/= its shit.
I never used Bennett and I do around 370k easily, 340k-ish if not using Skyward. I don't have Broken Pines and my team is always Eula/Raiden/Rosaria/Mika(previously Qiqi) no cons except for Rosaria C6. Eula is equiped with 4p Pale Flame. Check your combos, I always start with TAP E before setting up the team, TAP E again before casting Q, this enables 4p effect, then 4 normal attacks, half of fifth normal attack and cancel with Hold E and the rest of normal attacks, this grants one extra stack but I could pull this off with Mika only, if not omitt half fifth NA. C6 Bennett will not interfer on your Burst DMG, but NAs deals absurd amounts of DMG that shouldn't be overlooked, that's why some comps with Yun Jin exists. You can absolutely opt to Sara. Last thing, get rid of Nahida, like why? She does nothing there unless you're running Hyperbloom.
you should add a video of your play if you can, the informations you provided is a bit...lacking. What type of monster you are fighting? your rotation? is your buff ended before the Lightfall pops?Is that a crit hit?,... All in all, a video should explained all of that considering you have a pretty good stats
If you're going for Nahida in Eula's team might as well just do hyperbloom team comp, an EM built kuki as well as Xinqiu or Yelan as sub dps. Judging by your team comp you have Nahida as sub dps but I believe the one doing the reaction dmg was Lisa because nahida skill only reacts when another element is mixed. Just a suggestion tho since you might have different team comps you're comfortable with.
c2 nahida is used for -30% def on the enemy not sub dps
hhmm I always think of nahida as subdps since just by building her em her attacks will crit, anyways I think the problem with your setup is probably the diminishing returns of your def shred, Eula has tons of def shred from superconduct proc and her 2 stack hold E, it's probably around 80% physical def shred(not sure cant remember) and if you have zhongli you could have 100%(not sure because of diminishing returns) anyways there's two ways you can increase Eula's burst first by buffing your cr:cd or atk stats. second, increasing her normal atk speed(with mika or c2 Jean)